Hello
I am trying to help a person >from Tulchin find his lost family named
PIVNIK.
Is there someone out there that can help this person?
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com

Hello
I am trying to help a person >from Tulchin find his lost family named
PIVNIK.
Is there someone out there that can help this person?
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com

Does anyone have any knowledge as to where one would find records for
Vileyka?
It is currently Belarus. It might have been Lithuania, Vilna, or Minsk
Gubernia at times.
I am trying to find the Yiskor Book. Does anyone have one outside of Yivo
who can translate the surnames?

Researching PRESSMAN and RABINOVITCH and variant spellings.

Diane Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL

dfrankel@icanect.net

Does anyone have any knowledge as to where one would find records for
Vileyka?
It is currently Belarus. It might have been Lithuania, Vilna, or Minsk
Gubernia at times.
I am trying to find the Yiskor Book. Does anyone have one outside of Yivo
who can translate the surnames?

Researching PRESSMAN and RABINOVITCH and variant spellings.

Diane Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL

dfrankel@icanect.net

The Spanish equivalent of Miriam is Maria, the mother of Jesus. Latin
rooted languages translate Miriam into Maria (Spanish, Portuguese and
Italian) or Marie (French).

I don't know if Sephardi Jews use(d) Maria as given name, I doubt it,
however many conversos employed Maria to hide their Jewish origin, adding
words such as 'da Grazia', 'Imaculada', 'das Dolores', to make sure it
refered to Christ's mother (the Holy Virgin).

Madalena, Magdalena, Madeleine, Magda are all rooted in Magdala (Mary of
Magdala, thus Miriam >from Magdala). Magdala was a village a few miles north
of the Lake of Galilee (Tiberias). Mary of Magdala is mentioned in the New
Testament as the woman who repented, converted to Christianism and washed
Christ's feet with her tears (Luke 7).

The Spanish equivalent of Miriam is Maria, the mother of Jesus. Latin
rooted languages translate Miriam into Maria (Spanish, Portuguese and
Italian) or Marie (French).

I don't know if Sephardi Jews use(d) Maria as given name, I doubt it,
however many conversos employed Maria to hide their Jewish origin, adding
words such as 'da Grazia', 'Imaculada', 'das Dolores', to make sure it
refered to Christ's mother (the Holy Virgin).

Madalena, Magdalena, Madeleine, Magda are all rooted in Magdala (Mary of
Magdala, thus Miriam >from Magdala). Magdala was a village a few miles north
of the Lake of Galilee (Tiberias). Mary of Magdala is mentioned in the New
Testament as the woman who repented, converted to Christianism and washed
Christ's feet with her tears (Luke 7).

Dear Judith and all,

Excuse me, but some corrections are in order. You wrote:

From: Judith Romney Wegner <jrw@Brown.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:03:37 -0400

Each language developed its own
version of each biblical name, usually because linguistic idiosyncrasies
demanded some modification in the spelling, the ending, etc. Therefore
Iakob (Gk), Jacobus (Lat.), Ya`qub (Arab.), Jakob (Ger), Jacques (Fr.),
Jacob (Eng.) and even a few variations containing the letter "m" -- such
as Giacomo (It.), Jaime (Sp.) and James (Eng.), are all genuine
equivalents of each other

None of these three last given names are equivalents of Jacob:

Giacomo is James in Italian, not Jacob. Jacob in Italian is Giaccobe.

Jacob is Jacobo in Spanish and Jaco' or Jacob in Portuguese... Jaime is
James in Spanish and Portuguese.

thanks
Tom

Dear Judith and all,

Excuse me, but some corrections are in order. You wrote:

From: Judith Romney Wegner <jrw@Brown.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:03:37 -0400

Each language developed its own
version of each biblical name, usually because linguistic idiosyncrasies
demanded some modification in the spelling, the ending, etc. Therefore
Iakob (Gk), Jacobus (Lat.), Ya`qub (Arab.), Jakob (Ger), Jacques (Fr.),
Jacob (Eng.) and even a few variations containing the letter "m" -- such
as Giacomo (It.), Jaime (Sp.) and James (Eng.), are all genuine
equivalents of each other

None of these three last given names are equivalents of Jacob:

Giacomo is James in Italian, not Jacob. Jacob in Italian is Giaccobe.

Jacob is Jacobo in Spanish and Jaco' or Jacob in Portuguese... Jaime is
James in Spanish and Portuguese.

thanks
Tom

Dear all,

I hope you had a healthy fast :)

About this subject, some comments to add:

Remember that it is UP TO YOU to keep your email address registered with
the major email address directories. If somebody's address doesn't shows up
or is outdated it's because the person is negligent :(

Here are some major email address directories for the US:

http://www.411locate.com/
http://www.bigfoot.com/index.htm
http://www.iname.com/
http://www.lycos.com/pplfndr.html
http://www2.switchboard.com/
http://www.whowhere.com/WhosThere
http://yahoo.four11.com/
http://home.netscape.com/escapes/whitepages/people.html

Some of these place maintain address searches too. However, the best way to
find addresses is to use the online telephone directories. Here are some:

http://www.555-1212.com/whte_us.htm
http://www.bigfoot.com/RUN?FN=BFD
http://www.switchboard.com/

I hope this helps
chatima tova
Tom

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We would not normally publish a list such as the above
but in the interest of bringing this thread to a satisfactory conclusion,
the above is offered as an incomplete listing of email address sources.

Dear all,

I hope you had a healthy fast :)

About this subject, some comments to add:

Remember that it is UP TO YOU to keep your email address registered with
the major email address directories. If somebody's address doesn't shows up
or is outdated it's because the person is negligent :(

Here are some major email address directories for the US:

http://www.411locate.com/
http://www.bigfoot.com/index.htm
http://www.iname.com/
http://www.lycos.com/pplfndr.html
http://www2.switchboard.com/
http://www.whowhere.com/WhosThere
http://yahoo.four11.com/
http://home.netscape.com/escapes/whitepages/people.html

Some of these place maintain address searches too. However, the best way to
find addresses is to use the online telephone directories. Here are some:

http://www.555-1212.com/whte_us.htm
http://www.bigfoot.com/RUN?FN=BFD
http://www.switchboard.com/

I hope this helps
chatima tova
Tom

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We would not normally publish a list such as the above
but in the interest of bringing this thread to a satisfactory conclusion,
the above is offered as an incomplete listing of email address sources.

Most, if not all, of these directories require that the participant
register.


MODERATOR'S NOTE: We'll close this thread with this message.

Does anyone read (old style) Dutch well enough to translate a birth
certificate >from 1886 and a marriage certificate >from 1877?

Please respond directly to corin@concentric.net

Thanks!

//Corin Barsily Goodwin
Cupertino, CA USA

Searching:

BARSILA/BARZILY/BARZILOV -- Russia; Scotland; NYC
BASOK/BARSACH -- Orsha, Belarus; Scotland; NYC; Providence, RI
BRAUN -- Hungary; NYC ... DU BOFF/MEISTROFF -- Russia; NYC; Nassau
County, NY
KANEFSKY/KANEVSKY and RIVKIN -- Elizabetgrod (Kirovgrod), Ukraine; NYC
SIGAAR -- Holland ... VAN SANTEN -- Amsterdam; NYC
WEISS -- Hungary or Czechoslavakia; NYC; Middlesex, NJ

Most, if not all, of these directories require that the participant
register.


MODERATOR'S NOTE: We'll close this thread with this message.

Does anyone read (old style) Dutch well enough to translate a birth
certificate >from 1886 and a marriage certificate >from 1877?

Please respond directly to corin@concentric.net

Thanks!

//Corin Barsily Goodwin
Cupertino, CA USA

Searching:

BARSILA/BARZILY/BARZILOV -- Russia; Scotland; NYC
BASOK/BARSACH -- Orsha, Belarus; Scotland; NYC; Providence, RI
BRAUN -- Hungary; NYC ... DU BOFF/MEISTROFF -- Russia; NYC; Nassau
County, NY
KANEFSKY/KANEVSKY and RIVKIN -- Elizabetgrod (Kirovgrod), Ukraine; NYC
SIGAAR -- Holland ... VAN SANTEN -- Amsterdam; NYC
WEISS -- Hungary or Czechoslavakia; NYC; Middlesex, NJ

Todah rabbah to all who provided insights for me. Let's close this
before it becomes a linguistic thread which has a tendency to unravel
interminably.

613 Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

PS Stan Goodman of Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel offered one additional small
nuance I had not seen before; -ov meaning "from" as opposed to -ovich
meaning "son of".


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Consider the thread closed.

Todah rabbah to all who provided insights for me. Let's close this
before it becomes a linguistic thread which has a tendency to unravel
interminably.

613 Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

PS Stan Goodman of Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel offered one additional small
nuance I had not seen before; -ov meaning "from" as opposed to -ovich
meaning "son of".


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Consider the thread closed.

I'm trying to locate cousins in the UK. My late grandfather, Louis LINKOFF,
was somewhat estranged >from his family after he came to Canada. Back in
England he had three sisters, all of whom were born in London: Becky,
Golda, and Anne (or Annie). Each of these women lived to an old age (ripe
or otherwise!). (Another sister, Ray (or Rae) died in 1920.)

I know that Becky was married and had at least one son. In the mid-1970s,
they were living in Brighton. I believe that by this time, Golda had passed
away (perhaps only a few years earlier). Anne probably died in the 1940s

from what I can tell.

I'm hampered in tracking down these great-aunts children and grandchildren
as I don't have a married name for any of them!

Three questions: (1) To those of you resident in the UK, might any of you
be the children/grandchildren I seek? (2) Any chance you might know of
someone whose family history sounds something like what I've described? (3)
Is there an e-mail discussion group similar to JewishGen for the UK
specifically, as this U.S. seems to be very U.S.-centric (sorry guys) (I
*do* think I'll take out a membership in the JGSGB)?

My first thought about how to try to track down married names for these
women would be to review voters' lists [see note below] to see when they no
longer show up at their father's address (which I have, fortunately), then
to research marriage records in London for the year in which each of them
seems to have moved, assuming they got married at that time. (I do know my
great-grandparents' full names, so that should help, since I believe this
info would have been required for the marriage certificate.

Any info/suggestions, etc., welcome. Please respond privately. TIA.

Gail Copeland
Thornhill (Toronto), ON Canada

I'm trying to locate cousins in the UK. My late grandfather, Louis LINKOFF,
was somewhat estranged >from his family after he came to Canada. Back in
England he had three sisters, all of whom were born in London: Becky,
Golda, and Anne (or Annie). Each of these women lived to an old age (ripe
or otherwise!). (Another sister, Ray (or Rae) died in 1920.)

I know that Becky was married and had at least one son. In the mid-1970s,
they were living in Brighton. I believe that by this time, Golda had passed
away (perhaps only a few years earlier). Anne probably died in the 1940s

from what I can tell.

I'm hampered in tracking down these great-aunts children and grandchildren
as I don't have a married name for any of them!

Three questions: (1) To those of you resident in the UK, might any of you
be the children/grandchildren I seek? (2) Any chance you might know of
someone whose family history sounds something like what I've described? (3)
Is there an e-mail discussion group similar to JewishGen for the UK
specifically, as this U.S. seems to be very U.S.-centric (sorry guys) (I
*do* think I'll take out a membership in the JGSGB)?

My first thought about how to try to track down married names for these
women would be to review voters' lists [see note below] to see when they no
longer show up at their father's address (which I have, fortunately), then
to research marriage records in London for the year in which each of them
seems to have moved, assuming they got married at that time. (I do know my
great-grandparents' full names, so that should help, since I believe this
info would have been required for the marriage certificate.

Any info/suggestions, etc., welcome. Please respond privately. TIA.

Gail Copeland
Thornhill (Toronto), ON Canada

The new list of documents of GenAmi is available on our Website.
As usual, this list as well as the other contents are updated by Robbert
de GROOT, our competent and faithful friend.
It is also possible for us to send a hard paper version.
To read the documents you may come to our library. But for all the
documents without a copyright, it is also possible for our members to get
some copies , and there are a lot in that case.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France

http://www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami

The new list of documents of GenAmi is available on our Website.
As usual, this list as well as the other contents are updated by Robbert
de GROOT, our competent and faithful friend.
It is also possible for us to send a hard paper version.
To read the documents you may come to our library. But for all the
documents without a copyright, it is also possible for our members to get
some copies , and there are a lot in that case.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France

http://www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami