Coming back on line following a 9 day down period, I'm happy to be in the
LitvakSIG world once more. I've missed being able to read the Digest,
participate in the discussions, and just getting to the projects which keep
mounting up.

It was particularly nice to read:

<< From: "Anita Fischer" <anitwal@ibm.net>

My local Jewish Paper published an article about a Dr. Arnold Noyek of
Toronto. I have seen this name on the Litvak list.

If someone wants a copy please email me privately and I can scan it and
send it to you.>>

Anita - Arnold is my second cousin, and I'd love to have a copy of the
article. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention.

A very happy and healthy New Year to all, and much success in our searches.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-coordinator, LitvakSIG

<dnhiowa@aol.com>

Coming back on line following a 9 day down period, I'm happy to be in the
LitvakSIG world once more. I've missed being able to read the Digest,
participate in the discussions, and just getting to the projects which keep
mounting up.

It was particularly nice to read:

<< From: "Anita Fischer" <anitwal@ibm.net>

My local Jewish Paper published an article about a Dr. Arnold Noyek of
Toronto. I have seen this name on the Litvak list.

If someone wants a copy please email me privately and I can scan it and
send it to you.>>

Anita - Arnold is my second cousin, and I'd love to have a copy of the
article. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention.

A very happy and healthy New Year to all, and much success in our searches.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-coordinator, LitvakSIG

<dnhiowa@aol.com>

Dear Yizkor Book Friends:

Yizkor Book Project Update, mid-September 1998

We are on the move again. Despite a mind-boggling backlog, we have
miraculously managed to put six (6) new files on our web site at<
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html>; since the beginning of
this month. There are now 38 files on our site. Considering that the
first document appeared about a year ago, we have made tremendous strides
in one year.

Please check out these wonderful additions:

1) Babruysk, Belarus, presented by Don Mopsick and the Bobruisk SIG:
translation of the Historical Monograph and other chapters

2) Gorodenka, Ukraine: 2 entries are included: the table of contents and
necrology, donated by Mark Heckman and Norman Berman, and a List of
Victims >from documents of the Russian Commission, transliterated by
Alexander Dunai.

3) Kybartai, Lithuania: The Book of Remembrance of the Jewish Community of
Kybart, a special translation into English by the author of the book,
Joseph Rosin, for the Internet edition.

4) Obertin, Ukraine: List of Victims >from documents of the Russian
Commission, transliterated by Alexander Dunai.

5) Siemiatycze, Poland: The Scroll of My Life, written in Yiddish and
translated, edited, and contributed by Leonard Prager, editor of Mendele.

Thanks to Martin Kessel and the wonderful technical staff who have worked
so tirelessly to assist us with our tasks.

In a day or two we will also we making an announcement of our new process
for donating funds to the Translation Project.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager

Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com

Dear Yizkor Book Friends:

Yizkor Book Project Update, mid-September 1998

We are on the move again. Despite a mind-boggling backlog, we have
miraculously managed to put six (6) new files on our web site at<
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html>; since the beginning of
this month. There are now 38 files on our site. Considering that the
first document appeared about a year ago, we have made tremendous strides
in one year.

Please check out these wonderful additions:

1) Babruysk, Belarus, presented by Don Mopsick and the Bobruisk SIG:
translation of the Historical Monograph and other chapters

2) Gorodenka, Ukraine: 2 entries are included: the table of contents and
necrology, donated by Mark Heckman and Norman Berman, and a List of
Victims >from documents of the Russian Commission, transliterated by
Alexander Dunai.

3) Kybartai, Lithuania: The Book of Remembrance of the Jewish Community of
Kybart, a special translation into English by the author of the book,
Joseph Rosin, for the Internet edition.

4) Obertin, Ukraine: List of Victims >from documents of the Russian
Commission, transliterated by Alexander Dunai.

5) Siemiatycze, Poland: The Scroll of My Life, written in Yiddish and
translated, edited, and contributed by Leonard Prager, editor of Mendele.

Thanks to Martin Kessel and the wonderful technical staff who have worked
so tirelessly to assist us with our tasks.

In a day or two we will also we making an announcement of our new process
for donating funds to the Translation Project.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager

Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com

Thanks everybody for the overwhelming response to my question about
Dombrowa. Now I understand. So maybe someone can help me with locating
Limanowa where my gf was born. It would be a village near Nowe Sancz in
Galicia. I can't find it on any map.

Thanks,
Rachel Ben-Eliezer

Thanks everybody for the overwhelming response to my question about
Dombrowa. Now I understand. So maybe someone can help me with locating
Limanowa where my gf was born. It would be a village near Nowe Sancz in
Galicia. I can't find it on any map.

Thanks,
Rachel Ben-Eliezer

Dear JewishGeners,

First I want to thank all of you who made me aware of Zwi GRILICHES when
I started searching. In the meantime he had contacted me too, and now I
hope we might find something....?
But I am still in the dark about my father, Rudolf SCHNEIDER. I tried to
follow the advice, Alan Weiner had given me, to write to Dr. Gerhard
Ungar at the D.O.W.
I have not received an answer >from there.
Maybe someone might know anything about the family of my father's
mother. Her maiden name was ROSENZWEIG, first name Leah, Dina? I do not
know when or where she was born, but probably somewhere in Austria
around 1850th or 60th
Thanks in advance!

Olivia Newman
Nashville, TN

Dear JewishGeners,

First I want to thank all of you who made me aware of Zwi GRILICHES when
I started searching. In the meantime he had contacted me too, and now I
hope we might find something....?
But I am still in the dark about my father, Rudolf SCHNEIDER. I tried to
follow the advice, Alan Weiner had given me, to write to Dr. Gerhard
Ungar at the D.O.W.
I have not received an answer >from there.
Maybe someone might know anything about the family of my father's
mother. Her maiden name was ROSENZWEIG, first name Leah, Dina? I do not
know when or where she was born, but probably somewhere in Austria
around 1850th or 60th
Thanks in advance!

Olivia Newman
Nashville, TN

I have a reference to someone buried in Montreal (Baron de Hirsch Old
Public) Cemetery.
I have checked the AJGS Cemetery Project on the website but cannot find
this one listed. I assume it is a Jewish cemetery but could someone please
confirm it. A Canadian soldier of the First World War is buried there and I
wish to know for certain that he was Jewish.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England

I have a reference to someone buried in Montreal (Baron de Hirsch Old
Public) Cemetery.
I have checked the AJGS Cemetery Project on the website but cannot find
this one listed. I assume it is a Jewish cemetery but could someone please
confirm it. A Canadian soldier of the First World War is buried there and I
wish to know for certain that he was Jewish.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England

Questing for information on the GOLOMB or GOLOB family of
Hrubieszow, Poland. All I know is >from oral tradition, that my
great-grandmother was Sara Golo(m)b. She died at a young
age between 1910 and 1920. Please let me know if you anti-
cipate any connections.

Aaron Biterman

Questing for information on the GOLOMB or GOLOB family of
Hrubieszow, Poland. All I know is >from oral tradition, that my
great-grandmother was Sara Golo(m)b. She died at a young
age between 1910 and 1920. Please let me know if you anti-
cipate any connections.

Aaron Biterman

Dear JewishGenners:
I am seeking information on the BITERMAN (BIDERMAN)
family anywhere in Poland or around the world. It would surely
be thrilling to meet someone else with my last name :)

Aaron Biterman

Biterman, Cimet/Tzimet/Zimet, Finger, Golob/Golomb, Volk/Folk/Wolk
-Hrubieszow, Poland
Brumer, Czesner, Fuks, Truk | Krochmalnik/Krachmalnik | Czesner
-Zamosc, Poland -Dubnow, Poland -Anywhere

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you entered BIDERMAN with JGFF at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ ?

Dear JewishGenners:
I am seeking information on the BITERMAN (BIDERMAN)
family anywhere in Poland or around the world. It would surely
be thrilling to meet someone else with my last name :)

Aaron Biterman

Biterman, Cimet/Tzimet/Zimet, Finger, Golob/Golomb, Volk/Folk/Wolk
-Hrubieszow, Poland
Brumer, Czesner, Fuks, Truk | Krochmalnik/Krachmalnik | Czesner
-Zamosc, Poland -Dubnow, Poland -Anywhere

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you entered BIDERMAN with JGFF at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ ?

I have a brochure >from the exhibition of Bamberg's Jewish history, currently
located in the old Bet Taharot.

The seal is a slightly elongated (in vertical direction) circle. Around the
edges, starting with a small star in the center and reading right and down,
and then back up, the text reads
* IUDEN DEPUDJRTEZU BAMBERG
(spelling and spacing as in the original). I translate this as "Deputies of
the Jews at Bamnberg."

Inside the outer ring, the text is Hebrew and reads

Peh Resh Nun Samekh Yod = Parnasey == the (community) wardens of
Bet aleph mem bet `ayin resh gimmel ==Bamberg
Vav heh mem dalet yod nun heh = vehamedinah ==and the (surrounding) province

Underneath that, are three letters: Yod (possibly zayin), `ayin, aleph. I
assume it is an abbreviation; it cannot be a year.

Underneath those three letters is a fairly large magen david >from which leaved
twigs grow up and around, culminating in a stylized flower on each side, that
embrace the three-letter abbreviation on each side.

Can anyone explain the yod-`ayin-aleph abbreviation?

Michael Bernet

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester

I have a brochure >from the exhibition of Bamberg's Jewish history, currently
located in the old Bet Taharot.

The seal is a slightly elongated (in vertical direction) circle. Around the
edges, starting with a small star in the center and reading right and down,
and then back up, the text reads
* IUDEN DEPUDJRTEZU BAMBERG
(spelling and spacing as in the original). I translate this as "Deputies of
the Jews at Bamnberg."

Inside the outer ring, the text is Hebrew and reads

Peh Resh Nun Samekh Yod = Parnasey == the (community) wardens of
Bet aleph mem bet `ayin resh gimmel ==Bamberg
Vav heh mem dalet yod nun heh = vehamedinah ==and the (surrounding) province

Underneath that, are three letters: Yod (possibly zayin), `ayin, aleph. I
assume it is an abbreviation; it cannot be a year.

Underneath those three letters is a fairly large magen david >from which leaved
twigs grow up and around, culminating in a stylized flower on each side, that
embrace the three-letter abbreviation on each side.

Can anyone explain the yod-`ayin-aleph abbreviation?

Michael Bernet

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester

My great-aunt died recently, and on her deathbed revealed a secret that she
had been harboring for almost 80 years - that her mother was Jewish. This
was rather astonishing to us, and we're attempting to get further information.

I had coincidentally been doing family research, and the name of her
mother's mother was almost an impossibility to research. I know that my
grandmother's family was English (and researched well back to the 1600s on
her father's father's and mother's line and her mother's father's line),
but ran into quite a block with her mother's mother who was listed on her
marriage cert in London as:

Esther DAVIES, daughter of Gryffith (labourer), birthplace Wales.

I hadn't been able to find any record of death for Esther Davies (even
looking under Davis/Davies/Norman surnames (she married Robert William
NORMAN at St Barnabas Church Kensington 16 October 1864), nor under
Esther/Easter/Hester.

My father's cousin (to whom my great-aunt revealed this knowledge) wrote

from England that he remembers his mother referring to non-Jewish girls as

'schiksters', but that his mother, Rose ADCOCK, had also married 'a Jewish
guy in the jewellery business called Percy BANNISTER and had a son called
Freddie when she was seventeen...1924 or 1925', and she may have picked up
the term (it was evidently one among many) during this marriage (she ran
away, abandoning her son)

At this point, I don't know where to start. I have one cousin attempting
to find an Esther DAVIES listed on the civil birth registrations of 1842
and 1843 (where every second DAVIES girl child was apparently called
Esther/Hester or Estare), and the LDS IGI has no registration for an Esther
DAVIES born within that time frame who had a father named Gryffith DAVIES,
Gryffith DAVID, Gryffith DAVIS or any combination of those names. The
Welsh use of the patronymic is extremely frustrating, and I think the UK
registrations are my best bet.

I'm giving details on the off-chance that there is potentially some
awareness someone may have of Davies and Welsh/English Jews that may help
clear up the situation. If the background is Jewish, we'd like to know
(especially one cousin, who through matrilineal lines would be considered
Jewish if this was verified, and would not have to convert). As my
grandmother (whose mother's mother was Esther DAVIES) had 10 daughters and
2 sons, and the daughters have several daughters and grand-daughters, this
aspect of our heritage shouldn't be hidden. But - we can't tell given the
limited information we've had so far, and don't want to claim a heritage to
which we are not entitled.

Is there a central repository of records in London within the Jewish
community that would allow me to find marriage details between Rose ADCOCK
and Percy BANNISTER, where the lineage would be detailed? I only have a
cursory knowledge of Jewish traditions (enough to be polite, coming >from a
multi-ethnic community), and am not sure whether this information would
have been maintained within the Jewish community.

Any response would be helpful, negative or positive, and I would thank you
for any time you could spare to advise me.

Karin Duncan
Ottawa, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.

Under the heading LEARN you will find : FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and InfoFiles.

My great-aunt died recently, and on her deathbed revealed a secret that she
had been harboring for almost 80 years - that her mother was Jewish. This
was rather astonishing to us, and we're attempting to get further information.

I had coincidentally been doing family research, and the name of her
mother's mother was almost an impossibility to research. I know that my
grandmother's family was English (and researched well back to the 1600s on
her father's father's and mother's line and her mother's father's line),
but ran into quite a block with her mother's mother who was listed on her
marriage cert in London as:

Esther DAVIES, daughter of Gryffith (labourer), birthplace Wales.

I hadn't been able to find any record of death for Esther Davies (even
looking under Davis/Davies/Norman surnames (she married Robert William
NORMAN at St Barnabas Church Kensington 16 October 1864), nor under
Esther/Easter/Hester.

My father's cousin (to whom my great-aunt revealed this knowledge) wrote

from England that he remembers his mother referring to non-Jewish girls as

'schiksters', but that his mother, Rose ADCOCK, had also married 'a Jewish
guy in the jewellery business called Percy BANNISTER and had a son called
Freddie when she was seventeen...1924 or 1925', and she may have picked up
the term (it was evidently one among many) during this marriage (she ran
away, abandoning her son)

At this point, I don't know where to start. I have one cousin attempting
to find an Esther DAVIES listed on the civil birth registrations of 1842
and 1843 (where every second DAVIES girl child was apparently called
Esther/Hester or Estare), and the LDS IGI has no registration for an Esther
DAVIES born within that time frame who had a father named Gryffith DAVIES,
Gryffith DAVID, Gryffith DAVIS or any combination of those names. The
Welsh use of the patronymic is extremely frustrating, and I think the UK
registrations are my best bet.

I'm giving details on the off-chance that there is potentially some
awareness someone may have of Davies and Welsh/English Jews that may help
clear up the situation. If the background is Jewish, we'd like to know
(especially one cousin, who through matrilineal lines would be considered
Jewish if this was verified, and would not have to convert). As my
grandmother (whose mother's mother was Esther DAVIES) had 10 daughters and
2 sons, and the daughters have several daughters and grand-daughters, this
aspect of our heritage shouldn't be hidden. But - we can't tell given the
limited information we've had so far, and don't want to claim a heritage to
which we are not entitled.

Is there a central repository of records in London within the Jewish
community that would allow me to find marriage details between Rose ADCOCK
and Percy BANNISTER, where the lineage would be detailed? I only have a
cursory knowledge of Jewish traditions (enough to be polite, coming >from a
multi-ethnic community), and am not sure whether this information would
have been maintained within the Jewish community.

Any response would be helpful, negative or positive, and I would thank you
for any time you could spare to advise me.

Karin Duncan
Ottawa, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.

Under the heading LEARN you will find : FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and InfoFiles.

Where is the town of OSIN located. Was it ever part of Germany? If so, when?

I was told that a Schimsche >from Osin was ordered to take the surname OSINSKI
by Frederich Der Grossen in 1770.

Mel Oshins
http://members.aol.com/meloshins
OSHINSKY, OSCHINSKY, OZINSKY, OSCHIN, OSHINS, OSHIN, OCEAN, JABLONSKY,
NAMCHEVSKY {Raczki, etc. in Suwalki Gubernia}
SCHMERER, BUND, RANZER {Czernovitz}

Where is the town of OSIN located. Was it ever part of Germany? If so, when?

I was told that a Schimsche >from Osin was ordered to take the surname OSINSKI
by Frederich Der Grossen in 1770.

Mel Oshins
http://members.aol.com/meloshins
OSHINSKY, OSCHINSKY, OZINSKY, OSCHIN, OSHINS, OSHIN, OCEAN, JABLONSKY,
NAMCHEVSKY {Raczki, etc. in Suwalki Gubernia}
SCHMERER, BUND, RANZER {Czernovitz}