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Limanowa, Galicia #general

rachelb <rachelb@...>
 

Thanks everybody for the overwhelming response to my question about
Dombrowa. Now I understand. So maybe someone can help me with locating
Limanowa where my gf was born. It would be a village near Nowe Sancz in
Galicia. I can't find it on any map.

Thanks,
Rachel Ben-Eliezer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Limanowa, Galicia #general

rachelb <rachelb@...>
 

Thanks everybody for the overwhelming response to my question about
Dombrowa. Now I understand. So maybe someone can help me with locating
Limanowa where my gf was born. It would be a village near Nowe Sancz in
Galicia. I can't find it on any map.

Thanks,
Rachel Ben-Eliezer


ROSENZWEIG #general

olivia newman
 

Dear JewishGeners,

First I want to thank all of you who made me aware of Zwi GRILICHES when
I started searching. In the meantime he had contacted me too, and now I
hope we might find something....?
But I am still in the dark about my father, Rudolf SCHNEIDER. I tried to
follow the advice, Alan Weiner had given me, to write to Dr. Gerhard
Ungar at the D.O.W.
I have not received an answer >from there.
Maybe someone might know anything about the family of my father's
mother. Her maiden name was ROSENZWEIG, first name Leah, Dina? I do not
know when or where she was born, but probably somewhere in Austria
around 1850th or 60th
Thanks in advance!

Olivia Newman
Nashville, TN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSENZWEIG #general

olivia newman
 

Dear JewishGeners,

First I want to thank all of you who made me aware of Zwi GRILICHES when
I started searching. In the meantime he had contacted me too, and now I
hope we might find something....?
But I am still in the dark about my father, Rudolf SCHNEIDER. I tried to
follow the advice, Alan Weiner had given me, to write to Dr. Gerhard
Ungar at the D.O.W.
I have not received an answer >from there.
Maybe someone might know anything about the family of my father's
mother. Her maiden name was ROSENZWEIG, first name Leah, Dina? I do not
know when or where she was born, but probably somewhere in Austria
around 1850th or 60th
Thanks in advance!

Olivia Newman
Nashville, TN


Canadian Cemetery #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

I have a reference to someone buried in Montreal (Baron de Hirsch Old
Public) Cemetery.
I have checked the AJGS Cemetery Project on the website but cannot find
this one listed. I assume it is a Jewish cemetery but could someone please
confirm it. A Canadian soldier of the First World War is buried there and I
wish to know for certain that he was Jewish.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Canadian Cemetery #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

I have a reference to someone buried in Montreal (Baron de Hirsch Old
Public) Cemetery.
I have checked the AJGS Cemetery Project on the website but cannot find
this one listed. I assume it is a Jewish cemetery but could someone please
confirm it. A Canadian soldier of the First World War is buried there and I
wish to know for certain that he was Jewish.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


Searching: GOLOMB/GOLOB (Poland) #general

JewishCo1@...
 

Questing for information on the GOLOMB or GOLOB family of
Hrubieszow, Poland. All I know is >from oral tradition, that my
great-grandmother was Sara Golo(m)b. She died at a young
age between 1910 and 1920. Please let me know if you anti-
cipate any connections.

Aaron Biterman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: GOLOMB/GOLOB (Poland) #general

JewishCo1@...
 

Questing for information on the GOLOMB or GOLOB family of
Hrubieszow, Poland. All I know is >from oral tradition, that my
great-grandmother was Sara Golo(m)b. She died at a young
age between 1910 and 1920. Please let me know if you anti-
cipate any connections.

Aaron Biterman


Searching: BITERMAN/BIDERMAN (Poland) #general

JewishCo1@...
 

Dear JewishGenners:
I am seeking information on the BITERMAN (BIDERMAN)
family anywhere in Poland or around the world. It would surely
be thrilling to meet someone else with my last name :)

Aaron Biterman

Biterman, Cimet/Tzimet/Zimet, Finger, Golob/Golomb, Volk/Folk/Wolk
-Hrubieszow, Poland
Brumer, Czesner, Fuks, Truk | Krochmalnik/Krachmalnik | Czesner
-Zamosc, Poland -Dubnow, Poland -Anywhere

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you entered BIDERMAN with JGFF at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ ?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: BITERMAN/BIDERMAN (Poland) #general

JewishCo1@...
 

Dear JewishGenners:
I am seeking information on the BITERMAN (BIDERMAN)
family anywhere in Poland or around the world. It would surely
be thrilling to meet someone else with my last name :)

Aaron Biterman

Biterman, Cimet/Tzimet/Zimet, Finger, Golob/Golomb, Volk/Folk/Wolk
-Hrubieszow, Poland
Brumer, Czesner, Fuks, Truk | Krochmalnik/Krachmalnik | Czesner
-Zamosc, Poland -Dubnow, Poland -Anywhere

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you entered BIDERMAN with JGFF at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ ?


Hebrew abbreviation on Bamberg Seal #general

MBernet@...
 

I have a brochure >from the exhibition of Bamberg's Jewish history, currently
located in the old Bet Taharot.

The seal is a slightly elongated (in vertical direction) circle. Around the
edges, starting with a small star in the center and reading right and down,
and then back up, the text reads
* IUDEN DEPUDJRTEZU BAMBERG
(spelling and spacing as in the original). I translate this as "Deputies of
the Jews at Bamnberg."

Inside the outer ring, the text is Hebrew and reads

Peh Resh Nun Samekh Yod = Parnasey == the (community) wardens of
Bet aleph mem bet `ayin resh gimmel ==Bamberg
Vav heh mem dalet yod nun heh = vehamedinah ==and the (surrounding) province

Underneath that, are three letters: Yod (possibly zayin), `ayin, aleph. I
assume it is an abbreviation; it cannot be a year.

Underneath those three letters is a fairly large magen david >from which leaved
twigs grow up and around, culminating in a stylized flower on each side, that
embrace the three-letter abbreviation on each side.

Can anyone explain the yod-`ayin-aleph abbreviation?

Michael Bernet

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew abbreviation on Bamberg Seal #general

MBernet@...
 

I have a brochure >from the exhibition of Bamberg's Jewish history, currently
located in the old Bet Taharot.

The seal is a slightly elongated (in vertical direction) circle. Around the
edges, starting with a small star in the center and reading right and down,
and then back up, the text reads
* IUDEN DEPUDJRTEZU BAMBERG
(spelling and spacing as in the original). I translate this as "Deputies of
the Jews at Bamnberg."

Inside the outer ring, the text is Hebrew and reads

Peh Resh Nun Samekh Yod = Parnasey == the (community) wardens of
Bet aleph mem bet `ayin resh gimmel ==Bamberg
Vav heh mem dalet yod nun heh = vehamedinah ==and the (surrounding) province

Underneath that, are three letters: Yod (possibly zayin), `ayin, aleph. I
assume it is an abbreviation; it cannot be a year.

Underneath those three letters is a fairly large magen david >from which leaved
twigs grow up and around, culminating in a stylized flower on each side, that
embrace the three-letter abbreviation on each side.

Can anyone explain the yod-`ayin-aleph abbreviation?

Michael Bernet

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


Verifying a Jewish heritage #general

Karin Duncan <karind@...>
 

My great-aunt died recently, and on her deathbed revealed a secret that she
had been harboring for almost 80 years - that her mother was Jewish. This
was rather astonishing to us, and we're attempting to get further information.

I had coincidentally been doing family research, and the name of her
mother's mother was almost an impossibility to research. I know that my
grandmother's family was English (and researched well back to the 1600s on
her father's father's and mother's line and her mother's father's line),
but ran into quite a block with her mother's mother who was listed on her
marriage cert in London as:

Esther DAVIES, daughter of Gryffith (labourer), birthplace Wales.

I hadn't been able to find any record of death for Esther Davies (even
looking under Davis/Davies/Norman surnames (she married Robert William
NORMAN at St Barnabas Church Kensington 16 October 1864), nor under
Esther/Easter/Hester.

My father's cousin (to whom my great-aunt revealed this knowledge) wrote
from England that he remembers his mother referring to non-Jewish girls as
'schiksters', but that his mother, Rose ADCOCK, had also married 'a Jewish
guy in the jewellery business called Percy BANNISTER and had a son called
Freddie when she was seventeen...1924 or 1925', and she may have picked up
the term (it was evidently one among many) during this marriage (she ran
away, abandoning her son)

At this point, I don't know where to start. I have one cousin attempting
to find an Esther DAVIES listed on the civil birth registrations of 1842
and 1843 (where every second DAVIES girl child was apparently called
Esther/Hester or Estare), and the LDS IGI has no registration for an Esther
DAVIES born within that time frame who had a father named Gryffith DAVIES,
Gryffith DAVID, Gryffith DAVIS or any combination of those names. The
Welsh use of the patronymic is extremely frustrating, and I think the UK
registrations are my best bet.

I'm giving details on the off-chance that there is potentially some
awareness someone may have of Davies and Welsh/English Jews that may help
clear up the situation. If the background is Jewish, we'd like to know
(especially one cousin, who through matrilineal lines would be considered
Jewish if this was verified, and would not have to convert). As my
grandmother (whose mother's mother was Esther DAVIES) had 10 daughters and
2 sons, and the daughters have several daughters and grand-daughters, this
aspect of our heritage shouldn't be hidden. But - we can't tell given the
limited information we've had so far, and don't want to claim a heritage to
which we are not entitled.

Is there a central repository of records in London within the Jewish
community that would allow me to find marriage details between Rose ADCOCK
and Percy BANNISTER, where the lineage would be detailed? I only have a
cursory knowledge of Jewish traditions (enough to be polite, coming >from a
multi-ethnic community), and am not sure whether this information would
have been maintained within the Jewish community.

Any response would be helpful, negative or positive, and I would thank you
for any time you could spare to advise me.

Karin Duncan
Ottawa, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.

Under the heading LEARN you will find : FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and InfoFiles.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Verifying a Jewish heritage #general

Karin Duncan <karind@...>
 

My great-aunt died recently, and on her deathbed revealed a secret that she
had been harboring for almost 80 years - that her mother was Jewish. This
was rather astonishing to us, and we're attempting to get further information.

I had coincidentally been doing family research, and the name of her
mother's mother was almost an impossibility to research. I know that my
grandmother's family was English (and researched well back to the 1600s on
her father's father's and mother's line and her mother's father's line),
but ran into quite a block with her mother's mother who was listed on her
marriage cert in London as:

Esther DAVIES, daughter of Gryffith (labourer), birthplace Wales.

I hadn't been able to find any record of death for Esther Davies (even
looking under Davis/Davies/Norman surnames (she married Robert William
NORMAN at St Barnabas Church Kensington 16 October 1864), nor under
Esther/Easter/Hester.

My father's cousin (to whom my great-aunt revealed this knowledge) wrote
from England that he remembers his mother referring to non-Jewish girls as
'schiksters', but that his mother, Rose ADCOCK, had also married 'a Jewish
guy in the jewellery business called Percy BANNISTER and had a son called
Freddie when she was seventeen...1924 or 1925', and she may have picked up
the term (it was evidently one among many) during this marriage (she ran
away, abandoning her son)

At this point, I don't know where to start. I have one cousin attempting
to find an Esther DAVIES listed on the civil birth registrations of 1842
and 1843 (where every second DAVIES girl child was apparently called
Esther/Hester or Estare), and the LDS IGI has no registration for an Esther
DAVIES born within that time frame who had a father named Gryffith DAVIES,
Gryffith DAVID, Gryffith DAVIS or any combination of those names. The
Welsh use of the patronymic is extremely frustrating, and I think the UK
registrations are my best bet.

I'm giving details on the off-chance that there is potentially some
awareness someone may have of Davies and Welsh/English Jews that may help
clear up the situation. If the background is Jewish, we'd like to know
(especially one cousin, who through matrilineal lines would be considered
Jewish if this was verified, and would not have to convert). As my
grandmother (whose mother's mother was Esther DAVIES) had 10 daughters and
2 sons, and the daughters have several daughters and grand-daughters, this
aspect of our heritage shouldn't be hidden. But - we can't tell given the
limited information we've had so far, and don't want to claim a heritage to
which we are not entitled.

Is there a central repository of records in London within the Jewish
community that would allow me to find marriage details between Rose ADCOCK
and Percy BANNISTER, where the lineage would be detailed? I only have a
cursory knowledge of Jewish traditions (enough to be polite, coming >from a
multi-ethnic community), and am not sure whether this information would
have been maintained within the Jewish community.

Any response would be helpful, negative or positive, and I would thank you
for any time you could spare to advise me.

Karin Duncan
Ottawa, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.

Under the heading LEARN you will find : FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and InfoFiles.


Re: Surnames based on place names #general

MEL OSHINS
 

Where is the town of OSIN located. Was it ever part of Germany? If so, when?

I was told that a Schimsche >from Osin was ordered to take the surname OSINSKI
by Frederich Der Grossen in 1770.

Mel Oshins
http://members.aol.com/meloshins
OSHINSKY, OSCHINSKY, OZINSKY, OSCHIN, OSHINS, OSHIN, OCEAN, JABLONSKY,
NAMCHEVSKY {Raczki, etc. in Suwalki Gubernia}
SCHMERER, BUND, RANZER {Czernovitz}


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surnames based on place names #general

MEL OSHINS
 

Where is the town of OSIN located. Was it ever part of Germany? If so, when?

I was told that a Schimsche >from Osin was ordered to take the surname OSINSKI
by Frederich Der Grossen in 1770.

Mel Oshins
http://members.aol.com/meloshins
OSHINSKY, OSCHINSKY, OZINSKY, OSCHIN, OSHINS, OSHIN, OCEAN, JABLONSKY,
NAMCHEVSKY {Raczki, etc. in Suwalki Gubernia}
SCHMERER, BUND, RANZER {Czernovitz}


Molive, Russia #general

Michael Kranish <mkranish@...>
 

I am trying to determine today's name for a town that around the 1880s
was known as Molive, Russia, according to naturalization papers. My
guess is it is in today's Latvia, but I'm not sure; it could be today's
Russia. I find no mention of this spelling in the usual sources,
including shtetl seeker, Where Once We Walked and federal mapping
agencies.
Thanks,
Michael Kranish


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Molive, Russia #general

Michael Kranish <mkranish@...>
 

I am trying to determine today's name for a town that around the 1880s
was known as Molive, Russia, according to naturalization papers. My
guess is it is in today's Latvia, but I'm not sure; it could be today's
Russia. I find no mention of this spelling in the usual sources,
including shtetl seeker, Where Once We Walked and federal mapping
agencies.
Thanks,
Michael Kranish


Country of origin? #general

RUP29@...
 

On the UK census, my gt grandfather came >from Warsaw Poland.Louis LEVY
On the UK census, my gt grandmother came >from Schirwinds Germany. Elizabeth
EDDLESTONE
My gt grandfather wasn't naturalized so where do I go >from here?
I cant find Schirwinds anywhere.
Please help me someone
from a very frustrated
Valerie Gold


Port of Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan #general

Gabor Zsolnay <gmz262@...>
 

Are there immigrant/ship arrival records >from Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan in
the 1900-1910 timeframe?

Sincerely,

Carol Adler Zsolnay at gmz262@nwu.edu