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WERTHEIMER #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Is there a connection between the family names: WERTHEIMER and
WURTHEIMER ?
Gerard Marx
This was a fun one! Here's a helpful hint: With names this LONG, and
only one slight variant in one vowel -- especially when both spellings
(Wert and Wurt) have the same sound in English -- one should always suspect
that they are the same name, one being a misspelling of the other. Names
can so easily become misspelled in a generation or two, or even in the
original transition to English >from the source language -- which in this
case was obviously German. (Note: this reasoning cannot be relied on for
shorter one- or two- syllable names, which in European languages (unlike
Hebrew) often come >from different roots.)

So, which is correct -- Wertheimer or Wurtheimer? In this particular case,
I happened to recall that Wertheim is a German town; but any time a
German name looks like it MIGHT be a town if you drop the "-er" ending,
it's worth checking out. Since Wertheim is indeed a town, Wertheimer means
an inhabitant of Wertheim (among Jews, such names often connotes a FORMER
inhabitant who moved somewhere else). As the Nat. Geographic Atlas lists
no Wurtheim with "u", any Wurtheimers are probably misspelled
Wertheimers! to cover my back, I did also check for Wurzheim -- figuring
Wurzheimer could easily be misspelled Wurtheimer. But, no Wurzheim --
only Wurzbach and Wurzburg (the latter with Umlaut).

I thought it worthwhile (werthweil? wurthweil??) to spell out the
process, because names based on German towns are very common among our
Jewish forebears [yes! it does have an "e" in the middle and does not come
from the verb to "forbear"] Any name that looks like a possible German
town can easily be checked in an atlas or on the Web -- and it's such FUN
to track things down by sleuthing!

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WERTHEIMER #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Is there a connection between the family names: WERTHEIMER and
WURTHEIMER ?
Gerard Marx
This was a fun one! Here's a helpful hint: With names this LONG, and
only one slight variant in one vowel -- especially when both spellings
(Wert and Wurt) have the same sound in English -- one should always suspect
that they are the same name, one being a misspelling of the other. Names
can so easily become misspelled in a generation or two, or even in the
original transition to English >from the source language -- which in this
case was obviously German. (Note: this reasoning cannot be relied on for
shorter one- or two- syllable names, which in European languages (unlike
Hebrew) often come >from different roots.)

So, which is correct -- Wertheimer or Wurtheimer? In this particular case,
I happened to recall that Wertheim is a German town; but any time a
German name looks like it MIGHT be a town if you drop the "-er" ending,
it's worth checking out. Since Wertheim is indeed a town, Wertheimer means
an inhabitant of Wertheim (among Jews, such names often connotes a FORMER
inhabitant who moved somewhere else). As the Nat. Geographic Atlas lists
no Wurtheim with "u", any Wurtheimers are probably misspelled
Wertheimers! to cover my back, I did also check for Wurzheim -- figuring
Wurzheimer could easily be misspelled Wurtheimer. But, no Wurzheim --
only Wurzbach and Wurzburg (the latter with Umlaut).

I thought it worthwhile (werthweil? wurthweil??) to spell out the
process, because names based on German towns are very common among our
Jewish forebears [yes! it does have an "e" in the middle and does not come
from the verb to "forbear"] Any name that looks like a possible German
town can easily be checked in an atlas or on the Web -- and it's such FUN
to track things down by sleuthing!

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


FROM the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI FAMILY TREE. #poland

FRIDA Grapa de CIELAK <arele@...>
 

October 19, 1998

To: JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/
To: "JRI-Poland digest recipients & readers" <jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To the dedicated genealogists:
JRI-Poland Board Member, Project Coordinator & founder: Stanley
Diamond<SMSDIAMOND@aol.com>;
JRI-Poland WebMaster:Steven A. Zedeck <szedeck@jewishgen.org>;
JRI-Poland Board Member & Database Manager:
MichaelTobias<Michael@mtobias.demon.co.uk>;
JRI-Poland Board Member & investigator: Michael Richman <mbresq@aol.com>,
JRI-Poland Board Member & now, our cousin, Judy Baston<jrbaston@aol.com>.
To all the JRI-Poland Board Members & supporters.

To you all:
This special short note is to send you all at the JRI-Poland Website our
special thanks & blessings.

THANKS TO YOU ALL, THANKS TO the ALL TEAM AT THE JRI-Poland Website & at
the Data Source, THANKS to you, WE HAVE FOUND "NEW" MEMBERS & NEW
family-data >from OUR GRAPA FAMILY TREE, which as become "the
GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE"!
AND we are sure that many of us: readers, subscribers and JRI-Poland
website users, have to be gratful as well!

BLESS YOU ALL!!!!!!
THANKS & G' BLESS, >from the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE.
With gratfulness,
>from all the GRAPAs,
the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE.
Particularly: Angie, Frida, Jose & Enrique Grapa.

ANGIE(Chaia) Grapa de DAVID <ANGIED801@aol.com>,
FRIDA(Freydl)Grapa de CIELAK <arele@enter.net.mx>,
JOSE(Yosef Meyer) GRAPA <jose_grapa@hp.com>,
ENRIQUE(Melej) GRAPA <egrapa@banamex.com>


JRI Poland #Poland FROM the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI FAMILY TREE. #poland

FRIDA Grapa de CIELAK <arele@...>
 

October 19, 1998

To: JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/
To: "JRI-Poland digest recipients & readers" <jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To the dedicated genealogists:
JRI-Poland Board Member, Project Coordinator & founder: Stanley
Diamond<SMSDIAMOND@aol.com>;
JRI-Poland WebMaster:Steven A. Zedeck <szedeck@jewishgen.org>;
JRI-Poland Board Member & Database Manager:
MichaelTobias<Michael@mtobias.demon.co.uk>;
JRI-Poland Board Member & investigator: Michael Richman <mbresq@aol.com>,
JRI-Poland Board Member & now, our cousin, Judy Baston<jrbaston@aol.com>.
To all the JRI-Poland Board Members & supporters.

To you all:
This special short note is to send you all at the JRI-Poland Website our
special thanks & blessings.

THANKS TO YOU ALL, THANKS TO the ALL TEAM AT THE JRI-Poland Website & at
the Data Source, THANKS to you, WE HAVE FOUND "NEW" MEMBERS & NEW
family-data >from OUR GRAPA FAMILY TREE, which as become "the
GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE"!
AND we are sure that many of us: readers, subscribers and JRI-Poland
website users, have to be gratful as well!

BLESS YOU ALL!!!!!!
THANKS & G' BLESS, >from the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE.
With gratfulness,
>from all the GRAPAs,
the GRAPA/GRAPPA/GRAY/ESHKOLI... FAMILY TREE.
Particularly: Angie, Frida, Jose & Enrique Grapa.

ANGIE(Chaia) Grapa de DAVID <ANGIED801@aol.com>,
FRIDA(Freydl)Grapa de CIELAK <arele@enter.net.mx>,
JOSE(Yosef Meyer) GRAPA <jose_grapa@hp.com>,
ENRIQUE(Melej) GRAPA <egrapa@banamex.com>


Searching: STERBOUL, CHOSTMAN, WULFMAN #general

claude wachtel <cwach@...>
 

I am searching any information on families STERBOUL (>from Bessarabia),
CHOSTMAN, WULFMAN (Moldavia and Romania)


Claude WACHTEL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: STERBOUL, CHOSTMAN, WULFMAN #general

claude wachtel <cwach@...>
 

I am searching any information on families STERBOUL (>from Bessarabia),
CHOSTMAN, WULFMAN (Moldavia and Romania)


Claude WACHTEL


Henry Cantor - In Memorium #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

The Kupishok SIG wishes to extend condolences to Linda Cantor, her
brother and family on the passing of their father, Henry Cantor.
Over the years, Mr. Cantor has played a vital role in the discussion
of family and shtetl, the gathering of information, and finally in
the development of our Kupishok cemetery database.

His staunch encouragement and support, companionship and love will be
missed by his friends and family alike. In this light, we would like
to name our cemetery database, the Henry Cantor Cemetery Database, in
his memory.

It is hoped that this memorial will encourage others to participate
with their parents or with their children to make our Kupishok
ShtetLink Site and other activities on JewishGen and the Litvak SIG a
real family effort as Henry always did.

May his name be a blessing to all who remember him.

Ann Rabinowitz
Kupishok SIG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Henry Cantor - In Memorium #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

The Kupishok SIG wishes to extend condolences to Linda Cantor, her
brother and family on the passing of their father, Henry Cantor.
Over the years, Mr. Cantor has played a vital role in the discussion
of family and shtetl, the gathering of information, and finally in
the development of our Kupishok cemetery database.

His staunch encouragement and support, companionship and love will be
missed by his friends and family alike. In this light, we would like
to name our cemetery database, the Henry Cantor Cemetery Database, in
his memory.

It is hoped that this memorial will encourage others to participate
with their parents or with their children to make our Kupishok
ShtetLink Site and other activities on JewishGen and the Litvak SIG a
real family effort as Henry always did.

May his name be a blessing to all who remember him.

Ann Rabinowitz
Kupishok SIG


location of records for Vetka and environs #belarus

carol lipson
 

Does anyone know where the records for Jews who lived in Vetka after WWI
might be? And for small villages near Vetka (Zheleznik particularly)?

Carol Lipson, Associate Professor,
Writing Program, Syracuse University


Belarus SIG #Belarus location of records for Vetka and environs #belarus

carol lipson
 

Does anyone know where the records for Jews who lived in Vetka after WWI
might be? And for small villages near Vetka (Zheleznik particularly)?

Carol Lipson, Associate Professor,
Writing Program, Syracuse University


Russian Characters - Teraspol listing #general

Arline and Sidney Sachs <sachs@...>
 

Miriam Weiner just sent me 55 printed pages of names of burials in Teraspol,
Transnistra region between Ukraine and Moldova. Unfortunately the names are
written in Russian Characters, so I need some volunteers to retype the
information. There are basically 6 columns of data:
cemetery plot location
3 columns of words which I assume are first name, last name and ?
date of birth
date of death
If someone can scan this data and then can make it change that would be a
great help,
but I don't know any way to do that.

I hope someone can type this to help the cemetery project.

Thanks, Arline


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Characters - Teraspol listing #general

Arline and Sidney Sachs <sachs@...>
 

Miriam Weiner just sent me 55 printed pages of names of burials in Teraspol,
Transnistra region between Ukraine and Moldova. Unfortunately the names are
written in Russian Characters, so I need some volunteers to retype the
information. There are basically 6 columns of data:
cemetery plot location
3 columns of words which I assume are first name, last name and ?
date of birth
date of death
If someone can scan this data and then can make it change that would be a
great help,
but I don't know any way to do that.

I hope someone can type this to help the cemetery project.

Thanks, Arline


Need translation of Russian language birth certificates #general

HNRosen@...
 

I recently received >from the USC in Olkusz, Poland, copies of birth
certificates, possibly for my two maternal grandparents.

I e-mailed the JewishGen translation service, with this request, but received
no response.

Can I send photocopies to someone for a quick summary of their contents?

Please reply privately to:

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles
HNRosen@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need translation of Russian language birth certificates #general

HNRosen@...
 

I recently received >from the USC in Olkusz, Poland, copies of birth
certificates, possibly for my two maternal grandparents.

I e-mailed the JewishGen translation service, with this request, but received
no response.

Can I send photocopies to someone for a quick summary of their contents?

Please reply privately to:

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles
HNRosen@aol.com


Max and Buddy (?) ORLOFF, referees #general

Howard and Annette Lackman <hlack@...>
 

Seeking family of Max and Buddy (?) ORLOFF, brothers who refereed the
Saturday night Gillette fights on TV probably in the 1950's or 60's.
Annette Robinson Lackman, Arlington, Texas
searching ORLOFSKY, ORLOFF, SHWIFF, PINTEL, BOROFSKY, BERNSTEIN,
MARGOLIS >from area near Svisloch; YANKELOVITCH AND DEFEINSTEIN, Buenos
Aires.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Max and Buddy (?) ORLOFF, referees #general

Howard and Annette Lackman <hlack@...>
 

Seeking family of Max and Buddy (?) ORLOFF, brothers who refereed the
Saturday night Gillette fights on TV probably in the 1950's or 60's.
Annette Robinson Lackman, Arlington, Texas
searching ORLOFSKY, ORLOFF, SHWIFF, PINTEL, BOROFSKY, BERNSTEIN,
MARGOLIS >from area near Svisloch; YANKELOVITCH AND DEFEINSTEIN, Buenos
Aires.


problem with mapquest maps #general

Howard and Annette Lackman <hlack@...>
 

Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the shtetlseeker/mapquest.
When I click on the coordinates after finding a shtetl, I get a map with
a red star designating the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts
of browser graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics, but also
sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know how I can get the red
star to print?
Annette Lackman, Arlington, Texas
searching ORLOFSKY, ORLOFF, SHWIFF, PINTEL, BOROFSKY, BERNSTEIN,
MARGOLIS originally >from Svisloch area, migrated chiefly to Texas,
Detroit area, St. Louis area, Boston north shore, Seattle area, New York
and N.J.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen problem with mapquest maps #general

Howard and Annette Lackman <hlack@...>
 

Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the shtetlseeker/mapquest.
When I click on the coordinates after finding a shtetl, I get a map with
a red star designating the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts
of browser graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics, but also
sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know how I can get the red
star to print?
Annette Lackman, Arlington, Texas
searching ORLOFSKY, ORLOFF, SHWIFF, PINTEL, BOROFSKY, BERNSTEIN,
MARGOLIS originally >from Svisloch area, migrated chiefly to Texas,
Detroit area, St. Louis area, Boston north shore, Seattle area, New York
and N.J.


GOLD Family Circle #general

Paul Goldin <goldin@...>
 

I am seeking ex members of the "Gold Family Circle" that was in its hey-day
in Brooklyn New York
in the early '50's Some names I recall were Maurice & Bess Lewis....Ernie
Lewis. Annie Gold
Anyone with any information please contact Ronnie Gold at goldin@indigo.ie.
Shalom
Paul Goldin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GOLD Family Circle #general

Paul Goldin <goldin@...>
 

I am seeking ex members of the "Gold Family Circle" that was in its hey-day
in Brooklyn New York
in the early '50's Some names I recall were Maurice & Bess Lewis....Ernie
Lewis. Annie Gold
Anyone with any information please contact Ronnie Gold at goldin@indigo.ie.
Shalom
Paul Goldin