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Karozgw, Warsaw exciting discovery #general

R. Naidia Mosher <RNMOSHER@...>
 

I just made the exciting discovery that my maternal grandfather,
Israel DROZDASH (known as Israel ROSE) came >from Karosgw in Warsaw
after obtaining a copy of his certificate of naturalization at
the Public Records Office in Kew, London. No one in the family
knew where he (& our maternal grandmother Sarah) came from, except
that it was "somewhere in Warsaw," so this was a real coup!!
BTW, in case other Jewishgeners don't know already,the
naturalization papers also give the names and nationalities of
parents; in this case, Solomon and Rachel DROZDASH, Polish.
(Another coup!)

Is anyone familiar with the family DROZDASH >from Karosgw or
with the town or district of Karosgw. Did Karosgw have a large
Jewish community? I'll appreciate even shreds of info!

I also tried to locate my paternal g.f. (Simon Wolf KUJAWSKI
aka KYJAWSKI)'s naturalization papers at the Pub. Records Off.,
and plowed thru 40 odd years of entries--but no luck. His papers
were either lost or maybe he couldn't be bothered--who knows!
BTW, I was advised by Rabbi Schachtner of Yad Vashem in Israel,
that I had misspelt my g.f.'s last name, i.e., KYJAWSKI instead
of KUjAWSKI (with a U). According to Rabbi Schachtner, the
Russian "U" is written with a "Y."

Naidia Mosher
e:mail: rnmosher@compuserve.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Karozgw, Warsaw exciting discovery #general

R. Naidia Mosher <RNMOSHER@...>
 

I just made the exciting discovery that my maternal grandfather,
Israel DROZDASH (known as Israel ROSE) came >from Karosgw in Warsaw
after obtaining a copy of his certificate of naturalization at
the Public Records Office in Kew, London. No one in the family
knew where he (& our maternal grandmother Sarah) came from, except
that it was "somewhere in Warsaw," so this was a real coup!!
BTW, in case other Jewishgeners don't know already,the
naturalization papers also give the names and nationalities of
parents; in this case, Solomon and Rachel DROZDASH, Polish.
(Another coup!)

Is anyone familiar with the family DROZDASH >from Karosgw or
with the town or district of Karosgw. Did Karosgw have a large
Jewish community? I'll appreciate even shreds of info!

I also tried to locate my paternal g.f. (Simon Wolf KUJAWSKI
aka KYJAWSKI)'s naturalization papers at the Pub. Records Off.,
and plowed thru 40 odd years of entries--but no luck. His papers
were either lost or maybe he couldn't be bothered--who knows!
BTW, I was advised by Rabbi Schachtner of Yad Vashem in Israel,
that I had misspelt my g.f.'s last name, i.e., KYJAWSKI instead
of KUjAWSKI (with a U). According to Rabbi Schachtner, the
Russian "U" is written with a "Y."

Naidia Mosher
e:mail: rnmosher@compuserve.com


Vselyub/Wsielub Belarus #general

Susan
 

Can anyone tell me if the above village still in exists?

Susan Silberstein

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vselyub/Wsielub Belarus #general

Susan
 

Can anyone tell me if the above village still in exists?

Susan Silberstein

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click on the hyperlink "towns". It's there. If you
click on the coordinates it will be located on a map.


Archives for Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi #belarus

Arkady Brazin <arkady@...>
 

There are small villages to the south of Gomel:
Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi
In which archives can be found any information about people in
those places for period 1800-1900

Arkady Brazin

Researching: SHENDEROV, SENDEREV, MAGIDIN

from Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi


Belarus SIG #Belarus Archives for Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi #belarus

Arkady Brazin <arkady@...>
 

There are small villages to the south of Gomel:
Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi
In which archives can be found any information about people in
those places for period 1800-1900

Arkady Brazin

Researching: SHENDEROV, SENDEREV, MAGIDIN

from Poddobryanka, Nivki, Nosovichi


Re: DVOSKIN-DVOSHKIN-DVOSH #belarus

Shirley Wilets
 

Dear Schelly,

Saw your posting to Myra Davis and your mention of a Wisconsin Peckarsky.
A Milwaukee Peckarksy is an old and dear friend of mine with whom I'm still in
contact. If this can be of any help, let me know.

Shirley Wilets


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: DVOSKIN-DVOSHKIN-DVOSH #belarus

Shirley Wilets
 

Dear Schelly,

Saw your posting to Myra Davis and your mention of a Wisconsin Peckarsky.
A Milwaukee Peckarksy is an old and dear friend of mine with whom I'm still in
contact. If this can be of any help, let me know.

Shirley Wilets


Sende/Sande #general

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

On my ggm's death certificate is listed her mother's name
as either Sande or Sende Grosberg, >from Russia - never came
to the US

Anyone know of a name like this? My ggm was killed in an
accident in 1907 at the age of 55..

Many thanks.
Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia, Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng.;EPSTEIN, Russia
GALEWITZ, Vilnius; GROBERG, Vienna
JUVITZER/PARNES, Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sende/Sande #general

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

On my ggm's death certificate is listed her mother's name
as either Sande or Sende Grosberg, >from Russia - never came
to the US

Anyone know of a name like this? My ggm was killed in an
accident in 1907 at the age of 55..

Many thanks.
Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia, Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng.;EPSTEIN, Russia
GALEWITZ, Vilnius; GROBERG, Vienna
JUVITZER/PARNES, Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol


Kozlov society #general

Hshalp@...
 

I am told that there is a Kozlov Society in Israel and in
US. My grandmother was born (Frima Bean) and married there
(Avrom Kaminker) in the 1890's. I am trying to locate members
of the society in Israel and/or US. Please advise any
information that is available.

Harold M. Halpern


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kozlov society #general

Hshalp@...
 

I am told that there is a Kozlov Society in Israel and in
US. My grandmother was born (Frima Bean) and married there
(Avrom Kaminker) in the 1890's. I am trying to locate members
of the society in Israel and/or US. Please advise any
information that is available.

Harold M. Halpern


A boxer named RANZER #general

WayneK251 <waynek251@...>
 

A distant cousin told me that a great uncle, Julius RANZER,
boxed all over North America as Willie Glavin. Is there
anyplace that might have boxing records? I am not very
familiar with major sports and sports records yet alone
boxing. This would have been during 1904-1925. Any
help would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Ruth Kurtz
Waynek251@aol.com
researching Simon, Kalman, Auerbach, Berkowitz, Seigal,
Rantzer/Ranzer,Laver >from Romania and Philadelphia , PA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A boxer named RANZER #general

WayneK251 <waynek251@...>
 

A distant cousin told me that a great uncle, Julius RANZER,
boxed all over North America as Willie Glavin. Is there
anyplace that might have boxing records? I am not very
familiar with major sports and sports records yet alone
boxing. This would have been during 1904-1925. Any
help would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Ruth Kurtz
Waynek251@aol.com
researching Simon, Kalman, Auerbach, Berkowitz, Seigal,
Rantzer/Ranzer,Laver >from Romania and Philadelphia , PA

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Re: Midwife and Butcher #general

Dan Goodman <dsgood@...>
 

It's interesting to learn that Yiddish has only _one_ word for each of
these. Rather unusual for a language which has many dialects and used to
have many more.

In article <3.0.1.32.19981017222730.006b82d0@pop.erols.com>,

David Goldman <davic@pop.erols.com> wrote:
The YIDDISH word for midwife is AKUSHERKE (>from French accoucher, to give
birth). The YIDDISH and HEBREW word for butcher, the slaughterer, is the
same: SHOCHET. The HEBREW word for midwife is MEYALEDET. The guy who sells
the meat is the KATSAV in Hebrew.
Where does Avarteki, for midwife, come from? And Fleishhacker?!
"Fleischhacker" comes >from my mother's family. My grandmother, who prided
herself on speaking the best form of Yiddish, might have been rather
annoyed with you.

Something to keep in mind: 1) There were a lot of Yiddish dialects; even
in Eastern Europe, they were extremely diverse.

2) At least some of the people who have compiled Yiddish dictionaries were
more interested in the vocabulary of "correct" Yiddish than in the
vocabulary of people who spoke "incorrect" forms of Yiddish.

--
Dan Goodman
dsgood@visi.com
http://www.visi.com/~dsgood/index.html

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Midwife and Butcher #general

Dan Goodman <dsgood@...>
 

It's interesting to learn that Yiddish has only _one_ word for each of
these. Rather unusual for a language which has many dialects and used to
have many more.

In article <3.0.1.32.19981017222730.006b82d0@pop.erols.com>,

David Goldman <davic@pop.erols.com> wrote:
The YIDDISH word for midwife is AKUSHERKE (>from French accoucher, to give
birth). The YIDDISH and HEBREW word for butcher, the slaughterer, is the
same: SHOCHET. The HEBREW word for midwife is MEYALEDET. The guy who sells
the meat is the KATSAV in Hebrew.
Where does Avarteki, for midwife, come from? And Fleishhacker?!
"Fleischhacker" comes >from my mother's family. My grandmother, who prided
herself on speaking the best form of Yiddish, might have been rather
annoyed with you.

Something to keep in mind: 1) There were a lot of Yiddish dialects; even
in Eastern Europe, they were extremely diverse.

2) At least some of the people who have compiled Yiddish dictionaries were
more interested in the vocabulary of "correct" Yiddish than in the
vocabulary of people who spoke "incorrect" forms of Yiddish.

--
Dan Goodman
dsgood@visi.com
http://www.visi.com/~dsgood/index.html

MODERATOR NOTE: Apparently we've heard it all, this thread
is ended. Any further comments should be done privately.


STAWISKI, Poland #poland

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

Is anyone aware of any LDS films for Stawiski, Poland (in
Lomza, gubernia)?

I didn't find that town listed at all among the many towns
in the LDS list at the JRI-Poland site.

Thanks,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


JRI Poland #Poland STAWISKI, Poland #poland

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

Is anyone aware of any LDS films for Stawiski, Poland (in
Lomza, gubernia)?

I didn't find that town listed at all among the many towns
in the LDS list at the JRI-Poland site.

Thanks,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


Searching LIWERANT #general

rita <rivke@...>
 

Dear All

I agree with Ben Elton et al. about finding important connections
through this group so much so that only 7 or so days after posting a
search for SZCZECINIARZ and STOLIK which have both yielded important
avenues to follow up I am now posting another.

There is one large gap in my family research - that of my maternal
grandmother. Unfortunately the book of indexes for her birth year are
missing so I don't know who her parents were etc.

This is the information I have:

CHAJA RUCHLA LIWERANT was born 1891 probably in Lublin or surrounding
area. She married CHAIM DAVID STOLIK September 21 1917. They had 2
daughters, my mother Szajndla in 1917 and Rebeka (Rivke) born 1920.
Chaim David died in 1922. Chaja and Rivke probably died in Belzec in
1942.

That is the only information I have.

I am also curious about the name LIWERANT, not having heard of it
before. Does it have a meaning, does it signify as coming >from a
particular area?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Rita Nash (Rivke Szczeciniarz)
Sydney Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching LIWERANT #general

rita <rivke@...>
 

Dear All

I agree with Ben Elton et al. about finding important connections
through this group so much so that only 7 or so days after posting a
search for SZCZECINIARZ and STOLIK which have both yielded important
avenues to follow up I am now posting another.

There is one large gap in my family research - that of my maternal
grandmother. Unfortunately the book of indexes for her birth year are
missing so I don't know who her parents were etc.

This is the information I have:

CHAJA RUCHLA LIWERANT was born 1891 probably in Lublin or surrounding
area. She married CHAIM DAVID STOLIK September 21 1917. They had 2
daughters, my mother Szajndla in 1917 and Rebeka (Rivke) born 1920.
Chaim David died in 1922. Chaja and Rivke probably died in Belzec in
1942.

That is the only information I have.

I am also curious about the name LIWERANT, not having heard of it
before. Does it have a meaning, does it signify as coming >from a
particular area?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Rita Nash (Rivke Szczeciniarz)
Sydney Australia