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Whitman, Brockton, Massachusetts #general

Arlene Weiss <Balbec@...>
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my query on the Jewish history of
Brockton.

My father, Benjamin Schwartzberg (born Rakishak) lived in WHITMAN, MA around
1910-1917. Unfortunately, he is not listed on the 1910 census. Does anyone
know of any street directories for Whitman for these years?

Also, has anyone looked through the BROCKTON LABOR LYCEUM/LEAGUE papers at
American Jewish Historical Society in Waltham? I believe my grandfather,
Hyman Hurwitz, born in Shvinzian, was involved in these organizations
(1900-1918).

Sincerely,
Arlene Weiss, Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Whitman, Brockton, Massachusetts #general

Arlene Weiss <Balbec@...>
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my query on the Jewish history of
Brockton.

My father, Benjamin Schwartzberg (born Rakishak) lived in WHITMAN, MA around
1910-1917. Unfortunately, he is not listed on the 1910 census. Does anyone
know of any street directories for Whitman for these years?

Also, has anyone looked through the BROCKTON LABOR LYCEUM/LEAGUE papers at
American Jewish Historical Society in Waltham? I believe my grandfather,
Hyman Hurwitz, born in Shvinzian, was involved in these organizations
(1900-1918).

Sincerely,
Arlene Weiss, Chicago


Re: RINGWALD, MARMORSTEIN, and more #hungary

Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn <hirshorn@...>
 

Congratulations to Robert & Sarah Klein
for posting a List of Family Names for a genealogy that they uncovered. This should serve as a shining example for all of us.
When we read a genalogy or a Yizkor-Memorial book,
make an abstract of the Family names and post it on the appropriate SIG.
regards >from Harry Hirschhorn POB 114 Alfe menashe 44851 Israel. Searching
for GANS family.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@netvision.net.il>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>

I just found a site with a huge Jewish family tree, mostly for Ringwald
from >Hungary/Slovakia. However, there are many more names in this tree.
Here are all the surnames with a portion of the Ringwalds.....


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RINGWALD, MARMORSTEIN, and more #hungary

Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn <hirshorn@...>
 

Congratulations to Robert & Sarah Klein
for posting a List of Family Names for a genealogy that they uncovered. This should serve as a shining example for all of us.
When we read a genalogy or a Yizkor-Memorial book,
make an abstract of the Family names and post it on the appropriate SIG.
regards >from Harry Hirschhorn POB 114 Alfe menashe 44851 Israel. Searching
for GANS family.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@netvision.net.il>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>

I just found a site with a huge Jewish family tree, mostly for Ringwald
from >Hungary/Slovakia. However, there are many more names in this tree.
Here are all the surnames with a portion of the Ringwalds.....


Re: h-sig digest: October 14, 1998 #hungary

CHERIE L. KORER <cheried@...>
 

From: cherie korer (cheried@aztec.asu.edu)
Date: October 17, 1998
Subject: Zemplen Tavern owners unite!

Hello to all Spunky Hunkies out there all over the world.

Funny you should mention it. I was just talking to my Bubbe who turned 100
in march, 1998 and she was again reminicsing about Humenne and her father's
Inn/Tavern in Kudlovcs, just 11/2 miles >from Humenne near the mansion of
Count Androshe Shondor which still stands there although the "Korschma"
(this kind of business in Hungarian) is not standing and there is a public
park on site of his property which was extensive although I don't know
many holds it was. (I'll ask her.) Anyway, her father made all kinds of
beer and liquors in big barrels >from the fruit in his orchards. They also
worked the land in the hills above the Humenne valley. They had many
10 children. They would pack a lunch and all go into the hills to plant,
cultivate and harvest the crops of corn, etc. The "professor" of the high
school in Humenne would bring her father plants to transplant and also give
her flowering plants with which she planted a big garden. She always had
a big garden in Chicago, too. I grew up in her building and under her ever
watchful eye. She still calls me "vildehya" and now it doesn't make me mad
to be called that, but it used to.
Anyway, her father also went to the different villages with a wagon and
had a thresher with which he would thresh wheat for a fee. "Father" was
a very busy man. His brother had a Korschma in Kayna. His father-in-law
had the Korschma before him in Kudlovics. His father-in-law was Rabbi
Hersh Leib Eichler and he was also a mohel. These were very industrious
people.

Watch Bubbe on TV, November 12 on "48 Hours." She is Regina Fox.

Cherie Korer


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 14, 1998 #hungary

CHERIE L. KORER <cheried@...>
 

From: cherie korer (cheried@aztec.asu.edu)
Date: October 17, 1998
Subject: Zemplen Tavern owners unite!

Hello to all Spunky Hunkies out there all over the world.

Funny you should mention it. I was just talking to my Bubbe who turned 100
in march, 1998 and she was again reminicsing about Humenne and her father's
Inn/Tavern in Kudlovcs, just 11/2 miles >from Humenne near the mansion of
Count Androshe Shondor which still stands there although the "Korschma"
(this kind of business in Hungarian) is not standing and there is a public
park on site of his property which was extensive although I don't know
many holds it was. (I'll ask her.) Anyway, her father made all kinds of
beer and liquors in big barrels >from the fruit in his orchards. They also
worked the land in the hills above the Humenne valley. They had many
10 children. They would pack a lunch and all go into the hills to plant,
cultivate and harvest the crops of corn, etc. The "professor" of the high
school in Humenne would bring her father plants to transplant and also give
her flowering plants with which she planted a big garden. She always had
a big garden in Chicago, too. I grew up in her building and under her ever
watchful eye. She still calls me "vildehya" and now it doesn't make me mad
to be called that, but it used to.
Anyway, her father also went to the different villages with a wagon and
had a thresher with which he would thresh wheat for a fee. "Father" was
a very busy man. His brother had a Korschma in Kayna. His father-in-law
had the Korschma before him in Kudlovics. His father-in-law was Rabbi
Hersh Leib Eichler and he was also a mohel. These were very industrious
people.

Watch Bubbe on TV, November 12 on "48 Hours." She is Regina Fox.

Cherie Korer


Re: Goldstein/Shonfeld #hungary

korman3@...
 

This reply presumes that Dudley Shonfeld lived and died in NY.

Since he was a person of some celebrity due to the Hauptman trial, I
would look at the index for obituaries which appeared in the NY Times.
Large libraries have this book in the reference section. If he had an
obituary, and it is a good bet that he did, descendants' names would be
listed.

This suggestion is in addition to the usual searches of vital records
and census materials.

Good luck, Debbi


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Goldstein/Shonfeld #hungary

korman3@...
 

This reply presumes that Dudley Shonfeld lived and died in NY.

Since he was a person of some celebrity due to the Hauptman trial, I
would look at the index for obituaries which appeared in the NY Times.
Large libraries have this book in the reference section. If he had an
obituary, and it is a good bet that he did, descendants' names would be
listed.

This suggestion is in addition to the usual searches of vital records
and census materials.

Good luck, Debbi


Re: ukaraine and birth records #general

Herb Weisberg <Weisberg.1@...>
 

Birth records exist in some areas through rabbi's listings. RAGAS found a
birth record, a circumcision record, death records, and a wedding record
in the "Rabbinates of Podolia province" in the Kamenets-Podolsky archive
in the Ukraine for the 1880s-1890s period. Amazing that they still exist
after all these years.

Herb Weisberg

Sanford Skansky wrote:

First of all has any body heard of Shetl by the name of Dokczyce or
something similar. The peson that told me about this shetl said it was
near Minsk. She said it might be Polish. Not being up on my geography
I assume Minks is close to the polish border.

My other question is about birth records. My grandfather was born in
1889 in Nikolaeve in the Ukraine. Did they even keep birth records back
then and if so would they still be there and how would one obtain a
birth certificate if there is one.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ukaraine and birth records #general

Herb Weisberg <Weisberg.1@...>
 

Birth records exist in some areas through rabbi's listings. RAGAS found a
birth record, a circumcision record, death records, and a wedding record
in the "Rabbinates of Podolia province" in the Kamenets-Podolsky archive
in the Ukraine for the 1880s-1890s period. Amazing that they still exist
after all these years.

Herb Weisberg

Sanford Skansky wrote:

First of all has any body heard of Shetl by the name of Dokczyce or
something similar. The peson that told me about this shetl said it was
near Minsk. She said it might be Polish. Not being up on my geography
I assume Minks is close to the polish border.

My other question is about birth records. My grandfather was born in
1889 in Nikolaeve in the Ukraine. Did they even keep birth records back
then and if so would they still be there and how would one obtain a
birth certificate if there is one.


Request information or links #general

Linda Olson <lgo1@...>
 

I am a "newbie" to this so please have patience. I am requesting
information or links for the following family geneology. My
grandfather was Fredrick William OERTEL and I believe born in NYC, and
who's father had a cigar shop in the Bedford-Stiver area around 1890's.
Fred ran away for home, heading west to settle in Brighton, Il. in early
1900's. There he married and fathered 13 children. He was known as
"Chicken Oertel" as he reised and sold chickens and eggs, and worked as
a painter and farmer. He was alienated >from his family but my mother
remembered several family members living on Long Island, NY. I am
specifically researching that linage and any information regarding
temple or shul affiliation in NY. Thanks to all who respond.

Linda Olson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Request information or links #general

Linda Olson <lgo1@...>
 

I am a "newbie" to this so please have patience. I am requesting
information or links for the following family geneology. My
grandfather was Fredrick William OERTEL and I believe born in NYC, and
who's father had a cigar shop in the Bedford-Stiver area around 1890's.
Fred ran away for home, heading west to settle in Brighton, Il. in early
1900's. There he married and fathered 13 children. He was known as
"Chicken Oertel" as he reised and sold chickens and eggs, and worked as
a painter and farmer. He was alienated >from his family but my mother
remembered several family members living on Long Island, NY. I am
specifically researching that linage and any information regarding
temple or shul affiliation in NY. Thanks to all who respond.

Linda Olson


Latvia: A Personal Journey #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

To all the genners who have asked for additional copies of the 4 part report:

I will be away >from my computer with the original piece for several weeks. I
would like to suggest that you can access any additional copies thru the
Jewishgen Archives.
Go to the Jewishgen home page and you can print yourselves out as many as
you need.

If you continue to need more information, please write me again in several
weeks.
Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Latvia: A Personal Journey #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

To all the genners who have asked for additional copies of the 4 part report:

I will be away >from my computer with the original piece for several weeks. I
would like to suggest that you can access any additional copies thru the
Jewishgen Archives.
Go to the Jewishgen home page and you can print yourselves out as many as
you need.

If you continue to need more information, please write me again in several
weeks.
Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem


Re: Hotel Somerset in Boston #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

Alan Perry wrote:
Does anybody have any information on the Hotel Somerset which existed in
Boston in 1914
The Somerset existed on Commonwealth Avenue at Charlesgate into the 1950s.
I attended a Boston University ROTC military ball there in 1951.
The hotel was bought by the Sonnabends, who used it as the nucleus of
something that became Sheraton Hotels. Sheraton headquarters, before the
merger with ITT, were on Atlanntic Ave. in Boston.

Stephen G. Esrati
stevsta@gwis.com
Shaker Heights, OH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hotel Somerset in Boston #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

Alan Perry wrote:
Does anybody have any information on the Hotel Somerset which existed in
Boston in 1914
The Somerset existed on Commonwealth Avenue at Charlesgate into the 1950s.
I attended a Boston University ROTC military ball there in 1951.
The hotel was bought by the Sonnabends, who used it as the nucleus of
something that became Sheraton Hotels. Sheraton headquarters, before the
merger with ITT, were on Atlanntic Ave. in Boston.

Stephen G. Esrati
stevsta@gwis.com
Shaker Heights, OH


Re: location of Kalvaria #general

Dick Plotz
 

Yigal Rechtman wrote:

<<>My grandfather came to NY >from
Kalvaria, Lithuania
Could this be Kalvaria, Poland? At some point in early 1900 the Kalwaria town
was part of Lithuania... Have you confirmed the country?>>

Kalvaria, now Kalvarija, Lithuania, was Kalwarja, Suwalki Guberniya, Russian
Poland administratively in Tsarist times, but was always "Litvak". It should
not be confused with Kalwarja Gora, Poland, which is nowhere near Kalvarija.
Both towns take their name >from Mt. Calvary in Jerusalem (the literal
translation of "Kalwarja Gora"), and Lithuanian Catholics have told me that
there is a shrine in Kalvarija with the stations of the cross.

Unfortunately, the Jewish records >from Kalvarija are missing, although a few
short lists have been published in Landsmen. I have heard recently, though,
that some (unspecified) information may soon be made available. Dozens if not
hundreds of us with obscure Kalvarija roots await this development eagerly....

Dick Plotz
Providence RI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: location of Kalvaria #general

Dick Plotz
 

Yigal Rechtman wrote:

<<>My grandfather came to NY >from
Kalvaria, Lithuania
Could this be Kalvaria, Poland? At some point in early 1900 the Kalwaria town
was part of Lithuania... Have you confirmed the country?>>

Kalvaria, now Kalvarija, Lithuania, was Kalwarja, Suwalki Guberniya, Russian
Poland administratively in Tsarist times, but was always "Litvak". It should
not be confused with Kalwarja Gora, Poland, which is nowhere near Kalvarija.
Both towns take their name >from Mt. Calvary in Jerusalem (the literal
translation of "Kalwarja Gora"), and Lithuanian Catholics have told me that
there is a shrine in Kalvarija with the stations of the cross.

Unfortunately, the Jewish records >from Kalvarija are missing, although a few
short lists have been published in Landsmen. I have heard recently, though,
that some (unspecified) information may soon be made available. Dozens if not
hundreds of us with obscure Kalvarija roots await this development eagerly....

Dick Plotz
Providence RI


Hebrew Translations #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

In tracking the family of Abraham RHEUBENS, a convict sent to Hobart,
Australia in 1828, son of Reuben Rheubens, I've found a few other Rheubens
names in the Great Synagogue of London marriage records. The handwritten
Hebrew forms of their names are on the web page below. I would be very
thankful of any attempts at deciphering and transcribing the names of their
fathers.

They are all >from the LDS film #94666, marriages 1791-1865, with indexes.

http://www.zeta.org.au/~feraltek/rheuben.htm

Thank you for any help in this.

Gary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew Translations #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

In tracking the family of Abraham RHEUBENS, a convict sent to Hobart,
Australia in 1828, son of Reuben Rheubens, I've found a few other Rheubens
names in the Great Synagogue of London marriage records. The handwritten
Hebrew forms of their names are on the web page below. I would be very
thankful of any attempts at deciphering and transcribing the names of their
fathers.

They are all >from the LDS film #94666, marriages 1791-1865, with indexes.

http://www.zeta.org.au/~feraltek/rheuben.htm

Thank you for any help in this.

Gary