Date   

Holocaust martyrs from Szeged #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIG-ers,

Dunaine Bognar Julia-Kanyo Ferenc, A masodik vilaghaboru szegedi hosei es
aldozatai. (Szeged heroes and victims of the second world war.) Szeged 1996.
ISSN 0133-414X. It was published by the Csongrad County Archives.

The book contains 2214 names of Jews killed in Holocaust. If you need data,
please fill the following form (if you have them) and return to me, I will send you
the data:

Name:
POB:
DOB:
Name of parents:
Residence:

--
Ujlaki Gyorgy
Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Holocaust martyrs from Szeged #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIG-ers,

Dunaine Bognar Julia-Kanyo Ferenc, A masodik vilaghaboru szegedi hosei es
aldozatai. (Szeged heroes and victims of the second world war.) Szeged 1996.
ISSN 0133-414X. It was published by the Csongrad County Archives.

The book contains 2214 names of Jews killed in Holocaust. If you need data,
please fill the following form (if you have them) and return to me, I will send you
the data:

Name:
POB:
DOB:
Name of parents:
Residence:

--
Ujlaki Gyorgy
Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu


Change of names 1938 #general

malkajef@...
 

An email correspondant asked me for the following information. I am not
certain of the correct answer. Could someone help me help her? The
question is:

On august 17, 1938 a law concerning the change in family names was passed
in Nazi Germany in which any Jewish person who didn't bear a first name
other than those classified as "jewish" under the ministry of the
interior's guidlines was forced to adopt an additional "jewish" name.
There was one for females and a differant one for males. What were those
imposed names?

Jeff Malka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Change of names 1938 #general

malkajef@...
 

An email correspondant asked me for the following information. I am not
certain of the correct answer. Could someone help me help her? The
question is:

On august 17, 1938 a law concerning the change in family names was passed
in Nazi Germany in which any Jewish person who didn't bear a first name
other than those classified as "jewish" under the ministry of the
interior's guidlines was forced to adopt an additional "jewish" name.
There was one for females and a differant one for males. What were those
imposed names?

Jeff Malka


SILBERSTEIN of New York #general

Goldschmidt
 

Dear Friends,
For a friend who has no access to the net:
Looking for the brothers Joseph and Abraham SILB(V)ERSTEIN born in
Cucumare - Romania, who lived in N.Y. in the twenties or thirties.
Abraham died around 1950, Joseph was alive in 1957.
Thanks and Shalom >from ISRAEL

Joseph Goldschmidt

Researching: ISSERLIN, NEUGASS, HOHENSTEIN, GUMPEL, GOLDSCHMIDT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SILBERSTEIN of New York #general

Goldschmidt
 

Dear Friends,
For a friend who has no access to the net:
Looking for the brothers Joseph and Abraham SILB(V)ERSTEIN born in
Cucumare - Romania, who lived in N.Y. in the twenties or thirties.
Abraham died around 1950, Joseph was alive in 1957.
Thanks and Shalom >from ISRAEL

Joseph Goldschmidt

Researching: ISSERLIN, NEUGASS, HOHENSTEIN, GUMPEL, GOLDSCHMIDT


faminly name DAVID/DAVIDOS/DAVIDAS #general

Martine David <mdavid@...>
 

I'm looking for family with the above surname.
Grandparents came >from Lithuania.

Anyone out there????

Thanks :)
Martine David


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen faminly name DAVID/DAVIDOS/DAVIDAS #general

Martine David <mdavid@...>
 

I'm looking for family with the above surname.
Grandparents came >from Lithuania.

Anyone out there????

Thanks :)
Martine David


Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

1. Thank you for your information.

2. May I express to you, as well as the rest of the list, my apologies
for, in your words, bore you. Thank you for your offer to keep on
answering me my direct consultations to you and avoid boring the rest
of the list.

3. I would apreciate to receive >from you amd/or h-sig head the
criteria for posting issues in order to avoid boring in the future. I
can assure you it is not nor was my intention.

4. I am new in the list and involved in my family tree research for
the last 20 years.I am not a professional genealogist.

5.I do not know why the list administrator erased >from my original
post, among other things. the URL with my family tree which a link to
it is listed in the Home Page of H-SIG as members home pages. I invite
you, as well as the rest list members, to visit my Home Page in
Construction that shows the product of 20 years work and, please, do
not forget sign my guest book.

<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756/>

Truly,

Touvia Goldstein




_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

1. Thank you for your information.

2. May I express to you, as well as the rest of the list, my apologies
for, in your words, bore you. Thank you for your offer to keep on
answering me my direct consultations to you and avoid boring the rest
of the list.

3. I would apreciate to receive >from you amd/or h-sig head the
criteria for posting issues in order to avoid boring in the future. I
can assure you it is not nor was my intention.

4. I am new in the list and involved in my family tree research for
the last 20 years.I am not a professional genealogist.

5.I do not know why the list administrator erased >from my original
post, among other things. the URL with my family tree which a link to
it is listed in the Home Page of H-SIG as members home pages. I invite
you, as well as the rest list members, to visit my Home Page in
Construction that shows the product of 20 years work and, please, do
not forget sign my guest book.

<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756/>

Truly,

Touvia Goldstein




_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My intention with my post was to request >from experienced list
memebers that actually have and are working with embarkation and
arrival lists, to clarify the issue that seems, due to the different
posts that have been submitted lately, not clear and even cotradictory.

I have tried to contact many times the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
not yet been succesful to get their help nor assitance. I would
apreciate any information that would guide me with whom to talk to
get, for example, these embarkation and arrival lists.

On the other hand, it seems proper to request >from those of you who
already have them all or some, a way how to get copies of them beeing
certainly a shorter way to get them.

Touvia Goldstein


---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My intention with my post was to request >from experienced list
memebers that actually have and are working with embarkation and
arrival lists, to clarify the issue that seems, due to the different
posts that have been submitted lately, not clear and even cotradictory.

I have tried to contact many times the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
not yet been succesful to get their help nor assitance. I would
apreciate any information that would guide me with whom to talk to
get, for example, these embarkation and arrival lists.

On the other hand, it seems proper to request >from those of you who
already have them all or some, a way how to get copies of them beeing
certainly a shorter way to get them.

Touvia Goldstein


---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My post and questions came with the intention to request >from those
list members with experience in the use of embarkation and and arrival
lists, to clarify and order the issue that, due to different posts
that have been and are yet beeing posted, not only are confusing but
some how, contradictory.

So, it maybe a good idea and even very useful a complete clarification
of this issue to the list.

As well, not having personally worked with the lists and not having
them in my hands, and learning >from the posts that have been submitted
to the list that it is difficult to get them, it is proper to request
from those of you who have them, to find a way, maybe, a shorter one,
to get them.I am interested.

I tried different ways to contact the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
yet not been succesful to get help >from them. I would apreciate if
someone who is in contact with them, to let me know the exact people
to contact.

Touvia Goldstein




---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My post and questions came with the intention to request >from those
list members with experience in the use of embarkation and and arrival
lists, to clarify and order the issue that, due to different posts
that have been and are yet beeing posted, not only are confusing but
some how, contradictory.

So, it maybe a good idea and even very useful a complete clarification
of this issue to the list.

As well, not having personally worked with the lists and not having
them in my hands, and learning >from the posts that have been submitted
to the list that it is difficult to get them, it is proper to request
from those of you who have them, to find a way, maybe, a shorter one,
to get them.I am interested.

I tried different ways to contact the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
yet not been succesful to get help >from them. I would apreciate if
someone who is in contact with them, to let me know the exact people
to contact.

Touvia Goldstein




---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998 #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

The Mormon Church Family History library microfilmed the Hamburg
embarkation manifests and the index to those manifests. Actually, they
are quite difficult to use. If your ancestor came to the US after 1897,
and especially after 1906, the US arrival manifests have equal, if not
more, information. The embarkation manifests >from Hamburg are in
German.

US arrival manifests are on microfilm through the early 1930s at the
Mormon library, as well as the NY port indexes and indexes for some
other ports. The indexes and manifests are also available through the
National Archives.

I don't know much about the Rotterdam information. A giant index exists
in Rotterdam, and a few libraries around the world have it. It is very
expensive, so it is not widely held.

I'm not sure where you are in your research background - new to the
list or new to research. So, rather than bore the whole group, if you
need further guidance, feel free to contact me directly.

Debbi


You wrote:


Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that jewish
emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so kind
and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and for
entry
into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of
embarkation
and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the
U.S. Can
someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg
and the
other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different
lists made
out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.
Perhaps later
things changed. Wayne

This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
---
You are currently subscribed to h-sig as: touviagoldstein@yahoo.com
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
---
You are currently subscribed to h-sig as: korman3@ix.netcom.com
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998 #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

The Mormon Church Family History library microfilmed the Hamburg
embarkation manifests and the index to those manifests. Actually, they
are quite difficult to use. If your ancestor came to the US after 1897,
and especially after 1906, the US arrival manifests have equal, if not
more, information. The embarkation manifests >from Hamburg are in
German.

US arrival manifests are on microfilm through the early 1930s at the
Mormon library, as well as the NY port indexes and indexes for some
other ports. The indexes and manifests are also available through the
National Archives.

I don't know much about the Rotterdam information. A giant index exists
in Rotterdam, and a few libraries around the world have it. It is very
expensive, so it is not widely held.

I'm not sure where you are in your research background - new to the
list or new to research. So, rather than bore the whole group, if you
need further guidance, feel free to contact me directly.

Debbi


You wrote:


Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that jewish
emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so kind
and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and for
entry
into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of
embarkation
and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the
U.S. Can
someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg
and the
other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different
lists made
out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.
Perhaps later
things changed. Wayne

This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
---
You are currently subscribed to h-sig as: touviagoldstein@yahoo.com
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
---
You are currently subscribed to h-sig as: korman3@ix.netcom.com
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


Question about 19th century Russian census #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering whether anyone had an insight to the following problem. In
census data >from the last third of the 19th century (1875), there was an
entry for my great-great-grandfather and one of his sons. There is no
mention of his wife, whose name I have yet to confirm. On the other hand,
there is no evidence to suggest she was not alive at the time. Is there a
possibility of a census not including a woman's name? Her husband was 45
years old. >from my attempts at comparing Hebrew names among a variety of
relatives born after 1875,it would appear she was indeed still alive until
the beginning of the 20th century.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question about 19th century Russian census #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering whether anyone had an insight to the following problem. In
census data >from the last third of the 19th century (1875), there was an
entry for my great-great-grandfather and one of his sons. There is no
mention of his wife, whose name I have yet to confirm. On the other hand,
there is no evidence to suggest she was not alive at the time. Is there a
possibility of a census not including a woman's name? Her husband was 45
years old. >from my attempts at comparing Hebrew names among a variety of
relatives born after 1875,it would appear she was indeed still alive until
the beginning of the 20th century.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


Re: Bristol Synagogue #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Judith Samuel has just published a book on the history of the Bristol
Jewish community.

Harold Pollins

Adrian Paul wrote

I am seeking information on the Bristol Synagogue (England)-
particularly on its history in the early to mid 1800's.
Can anyone help me?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bristol Synagogue #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Judith Samuel has just published a book on the history of the Bristol
Jewish community.

Harold Pollins

Adrian Paul wrote

I am seeking information on the Bristol Synagogue (England)-
particularly on its history in the early to mid 1800's.
Can anyone help me?