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SOSNIN, Aleksander and TALALAY #general

dardasht@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I have just made contact with yet another of our hidden branches of the
TALALAY family (with roots in Novgorod Severskiy, Moscow and Mogilev).
During our e-mail conversations with one member, Dr. Pavel Talalay of St.
Petersburg, who is studying/associate professor-geophysics at the University
Copenhagen for six months, he has asked me to find someone. I have just received
the message and have not yet done e-mail searches, etc., but thought I would post
in the hope that someone already knows the family, this person.
Pavel is looking for his good friend >from the Leningrad Mining Institute,
who graduated in 1984, and left for America in 1993-4. Aleksander SOSNIN was born
in Yakutsk and his father was famous geologist Lev SOSNIN. Aleksander has a wife
Elena and daughter Tatyana (possibly more children now). Pavel says that he knows
there are relatives in America, uncles/aunts.
Again, I am posting in the hope that someone perhaps already knows
Aleksander or his family, and I will pursue more traditional searches, such as
on-line search engines, etc.
Just for encouragement, I wanted to tell everyone that doing periodic
e-mail searches for your names is valuable, particularly if you are looking for a
rarer name, such as TALALAY.
So far there are only Polish Catholics >from Krakow (in America), our
branch with roots in Mogilev, Belarus (with knowledge of a Separdic background),
the group >from Novgorod-Severskiy -- south of Gomel, which is itself south of
Mogilev and well within "hailing distance" -- which knows they had relatives in
Mogilev and Moscow. and the group >from Novosibirsk which also originates in
Novgorod-Severskiy.
Except for the Polish Catholics, the names and their generations of use
are very similar in all three Jewish branches. Luckily the father of the new
branch, who lives in St. Petersburg, has always been very interested in history
of Russian Jews and in his name. He is now preparing a family history of what he
knows. The bottomline of this story? Check out every possible person with this
name, even if you aren't too sure of what you will find.
We hit a goldmine with a simple e-mail to someone in Italy, and found St.
Petersburg, Italy, Denmark, Novgorod-Severskiy, Moscow, Mogilev and more.
Again, thanks to Jewishgen, its amazing leaders and the people who are
involved in Jewish genealogy around the world. We all learn something new every
day.
Best regards,
Schelly TALALAY DARDASHTI
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SOSNIN, Aleksander and TALALAY #general

dardasht@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I have just made contact with yet another of our hidden branches of the
TALALAY family (with roots in Novgorod Severskiy, Moscow and Mogilev).
During our e-mail conversations with one member, Dr. Pavel Talalay of St.
Petersburg, who is studying/associate professor-geophysics at the University
Copenhagen for six months, he has asked me to find someone. I have just received
the message and have not yet done e-mail searches, etc., but thought I would post
in the hope that someone already knows the family, this person.
Pavel is looking for his good friend >from the Leningrad Mining Institute,
who graduated in 1984, and left for America in 1993-4. Aleksander SOSNIN was born
in Yakutsk and his father was famous geologist Lev SOSNIN. Aleksander has a wife
Elena and daughter Tatyana (possibly more children now). Pavel says that he knows
there are relatives in America, uncles/aunts.
Again, I am posting in the hope that someone perhaps already knows
Aleksander or his family, and I will pursue more traditional searches, such as
on-line search engines, etc.
Just for encouragement, I wanted to tell everyone that doing periodic
e-mail searches for your names is valuable, particularly if you are looking for a
rarer name, such as TALALAY.
So far there are only Polish Catholics >from Krakow (in America), our
branch with roots in Mogilev, Belarus (with knowledge of a Separdic background),
the group >from Novgorod-Severskiy -- south of Gomel, which is itself south of
Mogilev and well within "hailing distance" -- which knows they had relatives in
Mogilev and Moscow. and the group >from Novosibirsk which also originates in
Novgorod-Severskiy.
Except for the Polish Catholics, the names and their generations of use
are very similar in all three Jewish branches. Luckily the father of the new
branch, who lives in St. Petersburg, has always been very interested in history
of Russian Jews and in his name. He is now preparing a family history of what he
knows. The bottomline of this story? Check out every possible person with this
name, even if you aren't too sure of what you will find.
We hit a goldmine with a simple e-mail to someone in Italy, and found St.
Petersburg, Italy, Denmark, Novgorod-Severskiy, Moscow, Mogilev and more.
Again, thanks to Jewishgen, its amazing leaders and the people who are
involved in Jewish genealogy around the world. We all learn something new every
day.
Best regards,
Schelly TALALAY DARDASHTI
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com


Re: h-sig digest: October 18, 1998 #hungary

The2thdkdr@...
 

I recently made a geneological discovery. I thought I would pass along my
experience as it may help some other members. My biggest
geneological obstacle was finding out the names of the ancestral villages of
my great, grandmother and great, grandfather. They came to the U.S.,
separately, in 1881 and 1882, about a generation before most eastern european
jews emigrated to the US.
None of their descendants knew where they came >from except for the fact they
spoke Hungarian.
My paternal grandmother, their daughter, was born in NYC in 1900. Her birth
certificate said her parents were >from Hungary. No village or town, just
Hungary.
I found the naturalization papers of my great, grandfather. Before 1900,
these papers were pretty sketchy. All it said was that he came >from the
Austrian Empire.
I found out my great, grandparents met and married in NYC in 1885. The
marriage certificate only said they were >from Hungary.
I found the birth certificates of my grandmother's older brothers and sisters.
All it said was that their parents were >from Hungary..
I found a former judge, who lived in the same tenement building as they did in
1910. He remembered they were >from Hungary, as were his parents, but he did
not believe they came >from the same village.
I checked the burial site. It was originally owned by a Landsmanschaften
called "The Fraternal Society of 1879." I could not find any records
regarding details of the membership or where they might have emigrated from.
I found them in the 1900 census. It only said they were >from Hungary.
I found them on the Hamburg ship index. When I found the ship manifest
entering New York Harbor, I got excited. But again, it only said they were
from Hungary.
Then I had the thought. Perhaps the ship manifest on boarding in Hamburg was
a little more detailed than the one entering New York Harbor. It was true.
The ship manifests leaving Hamburg, at least those in the 1880's, had a column
for last residence besides the country of origin.
Perhaps others have had the same difficulty.
Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 18, 1998 #hungary

The2thdkdr@...
 

I recently made a geneological discovery. I thought I would pass along my
experience as it may help some other members. My biggest
geneological obstacle was finding out the names of the ancestral villages of
my great, grandmother and great, grandfather. They came to the U.S.,
separately, in 1881 and 1882, about a generation before most eastern european
jews emigrated to the US.
None of their descendants knew where they came >from except for the fact they
spoke Hungarian.
My paternal grandmother, their daughter, was born in NYC in 1900. Her birth
certificate said her parents were >from Hungary. No village or town, just
Hungary.
I found the naturalization papers of my great, grandfather. Before 1900,
these papers were pretty sketchy. All it said was that he came >from the
Austrian Empire.
I found out my great, grandparents met and married in NYC in 1885. The
marriage certificate only said they were >from Hungary.
I found the birth certificates of my grandmother's older brothers and sisters.
All it said was that their parents were >from Hungary..
I found a former judge, who lived in the same tenement building as they did in
1910. He remembered they were >from Hungary, as were his parents, but he did
not believe they came >from the same village.
I checked the burial site. It was originally owned by a Landsmanschaften
called "The Fraternal Society of 1879." I could not find any records
regarding details of the membership or where they might have emigrated from.
I found them in the 1900 census. It only said they were >from Hungary.
I found them on the Hamburg ship index. When I found the ship manifest
entering New York Harbor, I got excited. But again, it only said they were
from Hungary.
Then I had the thought. Perhaps the ship manifest on boarding in Hamburg was
a little more detailed than the one entering New York Harbor. It was true.
The ship manifests leaving Hamburg, at least those in the 1880's, had a column
for last residence besides the country of origin.
Perhaps others have had the same difficulty.
Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York


Re: Gregorian Calendar #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear JewishGenners,

Recently someone posted an inquiry about when Galicia/Poland took on the
Gregorian calendar.

On July12,1997 I posted a discussion of the Gregorian vs Julian calendar.(I
looked it up on the JewishGen Archives). When curiosity got the best of me I
searched the web and found the following web site. The URL is:

http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/date/jul_greg.html

When I searched the JewishGen Archives I entered "Gregorian" and got 110
hits through Sept.7,1998. I realize that many only have e-mail, but for those
who are on the internet/WWW, it is really worthwhile to check the archives.
You might find more information than you can imagine.

Hope the URL listed above will help.

Adelle Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gregorian Calendar #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear JewishGenners,

Recently someone posted an inquiry about when Galicia/Poland took on the
Gregorian calendar.

On July12,1997 I posted a discussion of the Gregorian vs Julian calendar.(I
looked it up on the JewishGen Archives). When curiosity got the best of me I
searched the web and found the following web site. The URL is:

http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/date/jul_greg.html

When I searched the JewishGen Archives I entered "Gregorian" and got 110
hits through Sept.7,1998. I realize that many only have e-mail, but for those
who are on the internet/WWW, it is really worthwhile to check the archives.
You might find more information than you can imagine.

Hope the URL listed above will help.

Adelle Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Re: problem with mapquest maps #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

Annette Lackman wrote:
Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the
shtetlseeker/mapquest. When I click on the coordinates after
finding a shtetl, I get a map with a red star designating
the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts of browser
graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics,
but also sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know
how I can get the red star to print?

Tom Venetianer added:
Unfortunately this is a problem with Mapquest, which
doesn't happens with Microsoft's Expedia (instead of a star
it places the location's name). What you can do is to print
the page, then the star shows. Of course you get all the
trash around the map.


If you go through the Mapquest home page:
http://www.mapquest.com
click Maps, and then type the name of your town and country,
the resulting map shows the star, and it stays there even
when you click "printable map." For some reason, when you go
through Shtetl Seeker and click "printable map" that same
star disappears.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: problem with mapquest maps #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

Annette Lackman wrote:
Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the
shtetlseeker/mapquest. When I click on the coordinates after
finding a shtetl, I get a map with a red star designating
the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts of browser
graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics,
but also sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know
how I can get the red star to print?

Tom Venetianer added:
Unfortunately this is a problem with Mapquest, which
doesn't happens with Microsoft's Expedia (instead of a star
it places the location's name). What you can do is to print
the page, then the star shows. Of course you get all the
trash around the map.


If you go through the Mapquest home page:
http://www.mapquest.com
click Maps, and then type the name of your town and country,
the resulting map shows the star, and it stays there even
when you click "printable map." For some reason, when you go
through Shtetl Seeker and click "printable map" that same
star disappears.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


Re: Search Leibners #general

William Leibner <leibner@...>
 

Apreciate any assistance in tracing the LEIBNER family that lived in
Nowy Zmigrod,Korczyna and Nowy Sacz, Galicia.Poland. My GG father left
Galicia in 1883 and arrived in New York in 1883. He lived in the lower
East side,Willet st. He was in the fish business.
Also looking for LANGS and FINDLINGS >from Nowy Zmigrod, TRITT from
Rawa-Ruska and ALTMAN >from Jarczow near Lemberg.
Mail to Leibner@green.co.il
William Leibner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Leibners #general

William Leibner <leibner@...>
 

Apreciate any assistance in tracing the LEIBNER family that lived in
Nowy Zmigrod,Korczyna and Nowy Sacz, Galicia.Poland. My GG father left
Galicia in 1883 and arrived in New York in 1883. He lived in the lower
East side,Willet st. He was in the fish business.
Also looking for LANGS and FINDLINGS >from Nowy Zmigrod, TRITT from
Rawa-Ruska and ALTMAN >from Jarczow near Lemberg.
Mail to Leibner@green.co.il
William Leibner


Re: Dryszczow, Dryshchuv, Poland #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

Henley, Julie B. wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find vital records for citizens of
Dryszczow (or Dryshchuv), Poland? There is a reference in "Where We
Once Walked" directing the reader to Podlesnoye, Ukraine. I've located
Podlesnoye on a map of Ukraine, but have not had luck in locating any
other information. Thanks for any info you can send my way.
Dryszczow [spell Dree shch uff] is correct, located SE >from Chelm, close to
Zamosc province. Nearest town, where information could be located is Chelm
or second choice - Zamosc.

Podlesnoye.
I haven't got map in front of me, but the shtetl Podlesnoye you have found
in Ukraine is located NW >from Stanislawow (now Ivano-Frankovsk). There is
another Podlesnoye (double named shtetl, probably Podlesnoye Mogilevsky or
Mogilevsky Podlesnoye) west >from Dryszczow in today's territory of White
Russia (Belarus).

In case that Dryszczow prior to WWI was a part of Mogilev Gubernia, then you
should search through Mogilev archives in Belarus or if you prefer, through
the Polish State Archives - USC Warszawa Srodmiescie (Archiwum Zabuzanskie),
where civil records copies of territories east >from Bug River are kept.

Behazlaha

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dryszczow, Dryshchuv, Poland #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

Henley, Julie B. wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find vital records for citizens of
Dryszczow (or Dryshchuv), Poland? There is a reference in "Where We
Once Walked" directing the reader to Podlesnoye, Ukraine. I've located
Podlesnoye on a map of Ukraine, but have not had luck in locating any
other information. Thanks for any info you can send my way.
Dryszczow [spell Dree shch uff] is correct, located SE >from Chelm, close to
Zamosc province. Nearest town, where information could be located is Chelm
or second choice - Zamosc.

Podlesnoye.
I haven't got map in front of me, but the shtetl Podlesnoye you have found
in Ukraine is located NW >from Stanislawow (now Ivano-Frankovsk). There is
another Podlesnoye (double named shtetl, probably Podlesnoye Mogilevsky or
Mogilevsky Podlesnoye) west >from Dryszczow in today's territory of White
Russia (Belarus).

In case that Dryszczow prior to WWI was a part of Mogilev Gubernia, then you
should search through Mogilev archives in Belarus or if you prefer, through
the Polish State Archives - USC Warszawa Srodmiescie (Archiwum Zabuzanskie),
where civil records copies of territories east >from Bug River are kept.

Behazlaha

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


MANDLEMAN of Newark , NJ #general

Dorie Lurie/Harvey Lisker <dorrie@...>
 

Beatrice Mandelman Ribak, 85, of Taos,NM passed away at home late on the
evening of June 24, 1998, most likely the longest residing artist living in
the Taos community. Bea was born on December 31, 1912 to Louis and Anna
Lisker Mandelman in Newark, New Jersey. Her late husband was Louis Ribak.

Perhaps some one is aware of the Lisker/Mandelman connection of Neward,NJ
and would be willing to share the information with me........

Harvey Lisker
dorrie@icanect.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MANDLEMAN of Newark , NJ #general

Dorie Lurie/Harvey Lisker <dorrie@...>
 

Beatrice Mandelman Ribak, 85, of Taos,NM passed away at home late on the
evening of June 24, 1998, most likely the longest residing artist living in
the Taos community. Bea was born on December 31, 1912 to Louis and Anna
Lisker Mandelman in Newark, New Jersey. Her late husband was Louis Ribak.

Perhaps some one is aware of the Lisker/Mandelman connection of Neward,NJ
and would be willing to share the information with me........

Harvey Lisker
dorrie@icanect.net


Naturalization/ Common Pleas Court #general

Julianne and Thomas Lockwood <juto@...>
 

The question was raised regarding how to obtain copies of naturalization
documents originally filed in the now non-existent Common Pleas Court in New
York City.

Inquiries can be sent to the following address: County Clerk and Clerk of
the Supreme Court, New York County Court House, Division of Old Records, 60
Centre St., Room 161, New York, N. Y.

Julie Lockwood


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization/ Common Pleas Court #general

Julianne and Thomas Lockwood <juto@...>
 

The question was raised regarding how to obtain copies of naturalization
documents originally filed in the now non-existent Common Pleas Court in New
York City.

Inquiries can be sent to the following address: County Clerk and Clerk of
the Supreme Court, New York County Court House, Division of Old Records, 60
Centre St., Room 161, New York, N. Y.

Julie Lockwood


family KAPLAN #general

mouchenik <moucheni@...>
 

hello
I research information on the family ++SCHMERKINE and ++DUBROV of ++Riga
that have emigrated in Europe and to ++E.U in the beginning of the century
I seek equally information on families of Jews of ++Riga,to know what they
are @@devevus during the last war in ++Europe
thank you for your assistance
Dan Mouchenik

a.. moucheni@club-internet.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen family KAPLAN #general

mouchenik <moucheni@...>
 

hello
I research information on the family ++SCHMERKINE and ++DUBROV of ++Riga
that have emigrated in Europe and to ++E.U in the beginning of the century
I seek equally information on families of Jews of ++Riga,to know what they
are @@devevus during the last war in ++Europe
thank you for your assistance
Dan Mouchenik

a.. moucheni@club-internet.fr


Re: problem with mapquest maps #general

Mark R. Heckman <Xheckman@...>
 

Howard and Annette Lackman wrote:

Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the shtetlseeker/mapquest.
When I click on the coordinates after finding a shtetl, I get a map with
a red star designating the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts
of browser graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics, but also
sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know how I can get the red
star to print?
Click on the map that has the star (use the right mouse button
if you are on a PC), and select "View Image". This will get rid
of all the other stuff that you don't want. Then just print the
map.

Mark Heckman Remove the "X"s >from this email address
Xheckman@Xcs.ucdavis.eduX to send me mail (protection >from spam).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: problem with mapquest maps #general

Mark R. Heckman <Xheckman@...>
 

Howard and Annette Lackman wrote:

Need help with a problem printingmaps >from the shtetlseeker/mapquest.
When I click on the coordinates after finding a shtetl, I get a map with
a red star designating the shtetl--this map is surrounded by all sorts
of browser graphics which I do not wish to print. When I click on
"printable map," I get a map sans all the browser graphics, but also
sans the identifying red star. Does anyone know how I can get the red
star to print?
Click on the map that has the star (use the right mouse button
if you are on a PC), and select "View Image". This will get rid
of all the other stuff that you don't want. Then just print the
map.

Mark Heckman Remove the "X"s >from this email address
Xheckman@Xcs.ucdavis.eduX to send me mail (protection >from spam).