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Baross Trade School #hungary

cyberpass <cyberpass@...>
 

One of the best leads I've gotten in my genealogy search was >from the web=
page Robert Klein mentioned....seeing our surname there was the first confirmation that at some point my family was living in Hungary. I wrote
to the school (which is in Gyor) and the Headmistress was kind enough
to send me all kinds of information on my cousin who went there in 1935..
...to make a very long story very short, after many months of searching
I found my cousin Karoly (Kastriner) Kertesz (he changed his surname after returning >from Mathausen) now living in Sweden (finding someone who has
changed his surname to a name you don't even know is a story all by itself!!). He turned 85 in October. His son, Tibi, and I have been working together ever since to put our tree in order. Tibi is coming here to Tampa in February...we believe it is the first time in 133 years that his and my branch of our family will be sitting in the same room!!

If anyone would like more info on the Baross Trade School in Gyor please
email me directly.
Sheryl Kastriner


Hungary SIG #Hungary Baross Trade School #hungary

cyberpass <cyberpass@...>
 

One of the best leads I've gotten in my genealogy search was >from the web=
page Robert Klein mentioned....seeing our surname there was the first confirmation that at some point my family was living in Hungary. I wrote
to the school (which is in Gyor) and the Headmistress was kind enough
to send me all kinds of information on my cousin who went there in 1935..
...to make a very long story very short, after many months of searching
I found my cousin Karoly (Kastriner) Kertesz (he changed his surname after returning >from Mathausen) now living in Sweden (finding someone who has
changed his surname to a name you don't even know is a story all by itself!!). He turned 85 in October. His son, Tibi, and I have been working together ever since to put our tree in order. Tibi is coming here to Tampa in February...we believe it is the first time in 133 years that his and my branch of our family will be sitting in the same room!!

If anyone would like more info on the Baross Trade School in Gyor please
email me directly.
Sheryl Kastriner


*Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Robert and all,

The site belong to a high school in Gyor, It's called "felsokereskedelmi
foiskola" which means (more or less) "main school for teaching commerce".
Such schools were very popular in Hungary around the turn of the century.
They replaced the university to which only a minority had access - usually
the rich and the noble. It's the equivalent of todays technical schools.

The site has a very confusing navigation, but the starting point to all
names of graduates is:
http://www.different.hu/baross/diakok/indexd.html

If you have the patience and time to examine thousands of names listed in
rows of strings, well have fun :)

A last note - the graduates names are classified into several categories,
according to their level of achievement: "Jelesen" - exceptional or very
good, "Jol felelt meg" - good and "Megfelelt" - acceptable.

have a nice day
Tom

Mod.-Even though there are many responses with the correct answer of Gyor. Each respondant added a unique touch or additional information. If you come across someone >from the town of Gyor you will always impress them by asking about the Baross school there.


Hungary SIG #Hungary *Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Robert and all,

The site belong to a high school in Gyor, It's called "felsokereskedelmi
foiskola" which means (more or less) "main school for teaching commerce".
Such schools were very popular in Hungary around the turn of the century.
They replaced the university to which only a minority had access - usually
the rich and the noble. It's the equivalent of todays technical schools.

The site has a very confusing navigation, but the starting point to all
names of graduates is:
http://www.different.hu/baross/diakok/indexd.html

If you have the patience and time to examine thousands of names listed in
rows of strings, well have fun :)

A last note - the graduates names are classified into several categories,
according to their level of achievement: "Jelesen" - exceptional or very
good, "Jol felelt meg" - good and "Megfelelt" - acceptable.

have a nice day
Tom

Mod.-Even though there are many responses with the correct answer of Gyor. Each respondant added a unique touch or additional information. If you come across someone >from the town of Gyor you will always impress them by asking about the Baross school there.


Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Michael Sarosi <mikes@...>
 

Ervin Varga <varga@njcc.com> writes

........The name of the school is "Baross"(gimnazium?) and can be
located anywhere in Hungary (at least I could not find the name of the
town anywhere in the text).
Well, uh, not quite. Baross is the surname of the (Founder/ 1st
principal?) of the senior school. The school is located in the city of
Gyor.
My uncle is listed as a graduate for the 1914 year.

For what it's worth, central and eastern european school traditions give
considerable attention to the traditions of graduation classes, records,
reunions etc. If your preceding generations were able to go through the
school system, you could well find their names listed in the school
records.

--
Mike Sarosi


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Michael Sarosi <mikes@...>
 

Ervin Varga <varga@njcc.com> writes

........The name of the school is "Baross"(gimnazium?) and can be
located anywhere in Hungary (at least I could not find the name of the
town anywhere in the text).
Well, uh, not quite. Baross is the surname of the (Founder/ 1st
principal?) of the senior school. The school is located in the city of
Gyor.
My uncle is listed as a graduate for the 1914 year.

For what it's worth, central and eastern european school traditions give
considerable attention to the traditions of graduation classes, records,
reunions etc. If your preceding generations were able to go through the
school system, you could well find their names listed in the school
records.

--
Mike Sarosi


Re: hungarian website-significant? #hungary

Modai <modai@...>
 

It's in Gyor,as I saw mentioned.
Margalit Modai.


searching:
Mocsari >from Gyor
Neumann >from Gyor
Fradis >from Ternopol
Fohn >from Csockmo.


Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Barbara Kaufman <BABSK@...>
 

I can't read Hungarian either, but if you go further into the website,
it appears to be celebrating the 100th anniversary of the school, Baross
Gabor Kozgazdasagi Szakkozepiskola in Gyor. Not only are their lots of
names, back to 1897, but there are pictures of people, buildings and
places. If not significant, certainly interesting.

Barbara Kaufman


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: hungarian website-significant? #hungary

Modai <modai@...>
 

It's in Gyor,as I saw mentioned.
Margalit Modai.


searching:
Mocsari >from Gyor
Neumann >from Gyor
Fradis >from Ternopol
Fohn >from Csockmo.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Barbara Kaufman <BABSK@...>
 

I can't read Hungarian either, but if you go further into the website,
it appears to be celebrating the 100th anniversary of the school, Baross
Gabor Kozgazdasagi Szakkozepiskola in Gyor. Not only are their lots of
names, back to 1897, but there are pictures of people, buildings and
places. If not significant, certainly interesting.

Barbara Kaufman


Re: h-sig digest: November 03, 1998 #hungary

PBeckMdtn@...
 

In a message dated 98-11-04 01:26:10 EST, you write:

<< hamoreh@netvision.net.il >>

The Baross School is in Gyo"r.

Rgds,

Peter Beck
Middletown, NJ, USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: November 03, 1998 #hungary

PBeckMdtn@...
 

In a message dated 98-11-04 01:26:10 EST, you write:

<< hamoreh@netvision.net.il >>

The Baross School is in Gyo"r.

Rgds,

Peter Beck
Middletown, NJ, USA


Re: yizkor digest: November 02, 1998 #yizkorbooks

BetteJoy@...
 

In a message dated 11/3/98 1:11:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
yizkor@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<<
>>
As a professional genealogist I have been searching for records for Kalusz in
the former Galicia, today Ukraine. I have hired three different European
researchers at great expense and little results. Recently I read that a rabbi
in Lviv, Ukraine had some of the records for Kalusz. Alex Dunai of the
Ukraine has been trying to obtain data for me (at a fee of course--a
reasonable fee)

You must be careful in this research to find the correct KALUSZ. There is
also a Kalush in Poland.

Best Wishes,
Betty Provizer Starkman, Michigan
BetteJoy@aol.com


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: yizkor digest: November 02, 1998 #yizkorbooks

BetteJoy@...
 

In a message dated 11/3/98 1:11:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
yizkor@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<<
>>
As a professional genealogist I have been searching for records for Kalusz in
the former Galicia, today Ukraine. I have hired three different European
researchers at great expense and little results. Recently I read that a rabbi
in Lviv, Ukraine had some of the records for Kalusz. Alex Dunai of the
Ukraine has been trying to obtain data for me (at a fee of course--a
reasonable fee)

You must be careful in this research to find the correct KALUSZ. There is
also a Kalush in Poland.

Best Wishes,
Betty Provizer Starkman, Michigan
BetteJoy@aol.com


Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Ervin Varga <varga@...>
 

Robert, the website lists the names of graduates >from a high school >from the
year 1910, for every year up to the present.The name of the school is
"Baross"(gimnazium?) and can be located anywhere in Hungary(at least I could
not find the name of the town anywhere in the text).There are indeed quite a
number of Jewish sounding names, especially in the earlier years.
Vera
varga@njcc.com
Robert & Sarah Klein wrote:

I came across an Hungarian website which, on the page I located, has a list
of definitively Jewish names broken down into groups which are divided by
years ranging >from 1911 to 1920.

The address is: http://www.different.hu/baross/diakok/100d11.html


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian website--significant?? #hungary

Ervin Varga <varga@...>
 

Robert, the website lists the names of graduates >from a high school >from the
year 1910, for every year up to the present.The name of the school is
"Baross"(gimnazium?) and can be located anywhere in Hungary(at least I could
not find the name of the town anywhere in the text).There are indeed quite a
number of Jewish sounding names, especially in the earlier years.
Vera
varga@njcc.com
Robert & Sarah Klein wrote:

I came across an Hungarian website which, on the page I located, has a list
of definitively Jewish names broken down into groups which are divided by
years ranging >from 1911 to 1920.

The address is: http://www.different.hu/baross/diakok/100d11.html


Re: Traveling alone #general

JMGorlick@...
 

My husband's father Meyer GORELIK travelled alone at age 17 >from Beylarus to
New York. He was taken in by a family with 13 children. His younger brothers
travelled alone at later dates.
Jeanne


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Traveling alone #general

JMGorlick@...
 

My husband's father Meyer GORELIK travelled alone at age 17 >from Beylarus to
New York. He was taken in by a family with 13 children. His younger brothers
travelled alone at later dates.
Jeanne


Mt. Richmond Cemetery, Staten Island #general

Patricia Adams
 

I am looking for information or someone to contact for Mt. Richmond
Cemetery, Clark Ave., Staten Island, NY. I have found a card indicating the
gravesite of a relative (hopefully) by the name of Rosenthal who died in
July, 1928.

A letter to that cemetery address was returned and the phone company advises
that there is no listing.

Is there someone out there that can help or knows about this cemetary. It
is listed on the Map of New York Area Jewish Cemeteries.

Thanks,
Patricia Adams
Alstead, NH

Searching Smith, Schmid, Goldstein, Rosenthal.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt. Richmond Cemetery, Staten Island #general

Patricia Adams
 

I am looking for information or someone to contact for Mt. Richmond
Cemetery, Clark Ave., Staten Island, NY. I have found a card indicating the
gravesite of a relative (hopefully) by the name of Rosenthal who died in
July, 1928.

A letter to that cemetery address was returned and the phone company advises
that there is no listing.

Is there someone out there that can help or knows about this cemetary. It
is listed on the Map of New York Area Jewish Cemeteries.

Thanks,
Patricia Adams
Alstead, NH

Searching Smith, Schmid, Goldstein, Rosenthal.