In 1995, a Gedaliah Friedenberg offered through this discussion group to
visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and for a nominal sum, copy down
inscriptions on specified tombstones. The e-mail address is no longer
active and I can't find it on any of the various "people finders".
Does anyone know what happened to that person?
On a secondary note: Is there anyone else in Brooklyn willing to visit Washington Cemetery on behalf of some of us "way-out-of-towners"?
Finally: Am I correct in thinking that the staff at Washington Cemetery will give out the location of the grave of a person buried there but no more information than that?

Hope somebody can help, and thanks,

Alan Perry

In 1995, a Gedaliah Friedenberg offered through this discussion group to
visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and for a nominal sum, copy down
inscriptions on specified tombstones. The e-mail address is no longer
active and I can't find it on any of the various "people finders".
Does anyone know what happened to that person?
On a secondary note: Is there anyone else in Brooklyn willing to visit Washington Cemetery on behalf of some of us "way-out-of-towners"?
Finally: Am I correct in thinking that the staff at Washington Cemetery will give out the location of the grave of a person buried there but no more information than that?

Hope somebody can help, and thanks,

Alan Perry

Is there anyone out there who has this Czerwinsk film on loan at their
local Mormon Family History Center?

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Is there anyone out there who has this Czerwinsk film on loan at their
local Mormon Family History Center?

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

The Board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce
several developments that will make it even easier for you to continue to
provide the financial support that =96 along with the work of many of you
in Shtetl CO-OPs =96 has marked an exciting year for the growth of our
organization.

First, Jewish Records Indexing=96Poland, Inc. has been granted
tax-exempt status as a 501 (c)(3) organization. Effective immediately,
contributions by U.S. citizens are now tax deductible in the U.S.

Second, to help facilitate contributions, JRI-Poland is also pleased
to advise that Visa credit card facilities are now available. We are
particulary pleased to offer this convenience to JRI-Poland supporters

from around the world who do not have ready access to U.S. Dollar

accounts or facilities.

As we draw close to Rosh Hashana and are reminded to look back
on the past year, many of us can look back on our last year of research
with great satisfaction. If searches on JRI-Poland=92s database have
played a role in the research successes you have had, this is a good
time to make a financial contribution to help us get more records into
our databases and bring about more successes for you and hundreds
of other researchers.

As we continue to add Shtetl CO-Ops and to index more records under
the PSA Project, your contribution will help JRI-Poland=92s database grow.

Make your contribution today! Of course, you may still mail a check.
But if you choose to use your Visa card, here=92s how:

1. Print the Visa form on the JRI-Poland web site at
<A HREF=3D"www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl">http://www.jewishgen.org/jr=
i-pl
</A>
2. Telephone your contribution to Treasurer, Sheila Salo at the number
below. (Only between the hours of 8:00 am to 8:00 pm Eastern
Daylight/Standard Time, please.)
3. Print out and mail/fax the form below. Please scroll down.

Posted by the Board of Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
Judy Baston
Stanley Diamond
Barbara Khait
Hadassah Lipsius
Stuart Richler
Michael Richman
Vladimir Rozenbaum
Sheila Salo
Michael Tobias
Steven Zedeck

Contribution form
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For security reasons, JRI-Poland does not accept Visa credit card
contributions over the Internet. Please fax, mail or telephone your
contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
Telephone / Fax: (301) 341-1261

For Mail or Fax contributions, please complete all sections of this form.

Name as it appears on Visa Credit Card _________________________
Visa Card Number___________________________________
Expiration Date_________
(Note: this form is for Visa credit cards ONLY)

Contribution in US$________________

Address:

Street and House Number______________________________
Apartment or Flat Number____________________________
City______________________________________________
State/Province______________________________
Zip/Postal Code_________________________
Country_______________________________
Home Phone____________________________

Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland, Inc. is a non-profit 501(c)(3)
organization. Contributions to Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
are tax-deductible in the U.S. to the extent permitted by law.

Hi all:
Several people have brought to my attention that it
would help if the FAQ file contained a glossary of
important terms that many of us use and that many
people don't understand.

Terms such as:
AKT, Banns, etc.

I'm sure there are others.

Can I ask you to email me whatever terms (related
to indexes, documents, etc. ) you don't understand
and I will add them to the JRI-Poland FAQ file in a
new section.

Thanks,
Steven Zedeck
JRI-Poland Web master

The Board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce
several developments that will make it even easier for you to continue to
provide the financial support that =96 along with the work of many of you
in Shtetl CO-OPs =96 has marked an exciting year for the growth of our
organization.

First, Jewish Records Indexing=96Poland, Inc. has been granted
tax-exempt status as a 501 (c)(3) organization. Effective immediately,
contributions by U.S. citizens are now tax deductible in the U.S.

Second, to help facilitate contributions, JRI-Poland is also pleased
to advise that Visa credit card facilities are now available. We are
particulary pleased to offer this convenience to JRI-Poland supporters

from around the world who do not have ready access to U.S. Dollar

accounts or facilities.

As we draw close to Rosh Hashana and are reminded to look back
on the past year, many of us can look back on our last year of research
with great satisfaction. If searches on JRI-Poland=92s database have
played a role in the research successes you have had, this is a good
time to make a financial contribution to help us get more records into
our databases and bring about more successes for you and hundreds
of other researchers.

As we continue to add Shtetl CO-Ops and to index more records under
the PSA Project, your contribution will help JRI-Poland=92s database grow.

Make your contribution today! Of course, you may still mail a check.
But if you choose to use your Visa card, here=92s how:

1. Print the Visa form on the JRI-Poland web site at
<A HREF=3D"www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl">http://www.jewishgen.org/jr=
i-pl
</A>
2. Telephone your contribution to Treasurer, Sheila Salo at the number
below. (Only between the hours of 8:00 am to 8:00 pm Eastern
Daylight/Standard Time, please.)
3. Print out and mail/fax the form below. Please scroll down.

Posted by the Board of Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
Judy Baston
Stanley Diamond
Barbara Khait
Hadassah Lipsius
Stuart Richler
Michael Richman
Vladimir Rozenbaum
Sheila Salo
Michael Tobias
Steven Zedeck

Contribution form
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For security reasons, JRI-Poland does not accept Visa credit card
contributions over the Internet. Please fax, mail or telephone your
contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
Telephone / Fax: (301) 341-1261

For Mail or Fax contributions, please complete all sections of this form.

Name as it appears on Visa Credit Card _________________________
Visa Card Number___________________________________
Expiration Date_________
(Note: this form is for Visa credit cards ONLY)

Contribution in US$________________

Address:

Street and House Number______________________________
Apartment or Flat Number____________________________
City______________________________________________
State/Province______________________________
Zip/Postal Code_________________________
Country_______________________________
Home Phone____________________________

Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland, Inc. is a non-profit 501(c)(3)
organization. Contributions to Jewish Records Indexing =96 Poland
are tax-deductible in the U.S. to the extent permitted by law.

Hi all:
Several people have brought to my attention that it
would help if the FAQ file contained a glossary of
important terms that many of us use and that many
people don't understand.

Terms such as:
AKT, Banns, etc.

I'm sure there are others.

Can I ask you to email me whatever terms (related
to indexes, documents, etc. ) you don't understand
and I will add them to the JRI-Poland FAQ file in a
new section.

Thanks,
Steven Zedeck
JRI-Poland Web master

As long as I am checking the Mogilev index, here goes, David:
Note: those looking in the area, should also check Mogilev,
Bobruisk, Gomel, Vitebsk, Shklov. There were close commercial and family
relationships among these nearby places.
Flexible spelling is advised:
1872: ALIONOROV Borka
1892: ALEINER, Berka
1893: ALEINIKOV Berka
It is entirely possible
Some families used different forms of the names, either by
themselves, or the keeper of the records wrote it differently or the
index compiler read it differently. It is possible these three entries
are the same person, altho 20 years between #1 and #2 is a stretch.
Flexible spelling and form of names is ALWAYS advised.
Good luck.
Schelly Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com

As long as I am checking the Mogilev index, here goes, David:
Note: those looking in the area, should also check Mogilev,
Bobruisk, Gomel, Vitebsk, Shklov. There were close commercial and family
relationships among these nearby places.
Flexible spelling is advised:
1872: ALIONOROV Borka
1892: ALEINER, Berka
1893: ALEINIKOV Berka
It is entirely possible
Some families used different forms of the names, either by
themselves, or the keeper of the records wrote it differently or the
index compiler read it differently. It is possible these three entries
are the same person, altho 20 years between #1 and #2 is a stretch.
Flexible spelling and form of names is ALWAYS advised.
Good luck.
Schelly Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com

Dear Judith:
Checked the Mogilev Birth Index for this name and found the
following. Due to difficulties in quality of of the copies when it was
transliterated by Bella Nayer, and also to variations in spelling, one must
be flexible in spelling.
Also, further on index. the Mogilev Birth Index is on the 5th roll of
the 7-roll Mogilev Crown Rabbinate Records. It is a birth index, offered by
the father's name of baby boys only, >from years 1864-1894. Some years are
missing, some early years only family name is given, some later years the
first name is given, some years patrynomic is offered. If the father died
before the baby was born, the mother's name is given. Twins are noted. Also,
if there are a considerable number of names of interest on the index, one
should make every attempt possible to check each reel as the records begin in
1837, and include birth, death, marriage and divorce. A number of entries in
the index beginning in 1864 would mean there should be even more in the
non-indexed reels, and of course, for births of females.
Judith, I found the following that could be of interest to you:
1875: KRASSIK Movsha.
1877: KRASSIK Yankel-Nosson, KRASSIK Simon, KARASSIK Movsha
1879: KRASSIN Movsha, KRASSIKOV Abram
1880: KRASSIK Simon, KRAS Movsha
1883: KRASSIK Yankel-Mosson
1886: KARASSIK Evna, KRASSELCHSHIK Mikhel
1887: KRASSIK Simon
1888: KARASSIN Itska
1892: KRASSIKOVA Fruma (mother - see note above)
1893: KRASNIKOV Mordukh-Mendel, KARASSIN Yankel

For BAEVSKI:
Check JEWGEN for BAEVSKI. Australian researchers have done a lot of
work on this one with a connection to a prominent AUS family. But >from the
index we have:
1867: Baevski (2)
1872: BAEVSKI Itska
1874: BAEVSKI Essel
1875: BAEVSKI Shmerka, BAEVSKI Movsha
1877: BAEVSKI Izik, BAEVSKI Girsha
1877-78: BAEVSKI Shloma-Itska, BAEVSKI Shmerka
1879: BAEVSKI Movsha
1880: BAEVSKI Girsha, BAEVSKI Movsha
1882: BAEVSKI GEdalia
1883: BAEVSKI Aizik, BAEVSKI Movsha
1887: BAEVSKI Shloma, BAEVSKI Movsha
1888: BAEVSKI Nokhim
1891: BAEVSKI Movsha, BAEVSKI Nokhim
1893: BAEVSKI Shmuel

I am also researching KARASIK >from around Gomel, Mogilev, and Korma. I am interested in the siblings, descendents, ancestors of Shalom Piivish

KARASIK..

Judith Koenig Fox

Dear Judith:
Checked the Mogilev Birth Index for this name and found the
following. Due to difficulties in quality of of the copies when it was
transliterated by Bella Nayer, and also to variations in spelling, one must
be flexible in spelling.
Also, further on index. the Mogilev Birth Index is on the 5th roll of
the 7-roll Mogilev Crown Rabbinate Records. It is a birth index, offered by
the father's name of baby boys only, >from years 1864-1894. Some years are
missing, some early years only family name is given, some later years the
first name is given, some years patrynomic is offered. If the father died
before the baby was born, the mother's name is given. Twins are noted. Also,
if there are a considerable number of names of interest on the index, one
should make every attempt possible to check each reel as the records begin in
1837, and include birth, death, marriage and divorce. A number of entries in
the index beginning in 1864 would mean there should be even more in the
non-indexed reels, and of course, for births of females.
Judith, I found the following that could be of interest to you:
1875: KRASSIK Movsha.
1877: KRASSIK Yankel-Nosson, KRASSIK Simon, KARASSIK Movsha
1879: KRASSIN Movsha, KRASSIKOV Abram
1880: KRASSIK Simon, KRAS Movsha
1883: KRASSIK Yankel-Mosson
1886: KARASSIK Evna, KRASSELCHSHIK Mikhel
1887: KRASSIK Simon
1888: KARASSIN Itska
1892: KRASSIKOVA Fruma (mother - see note above)
1893: KRASNIKOV Mordukh-Mendel, KARASSIN Yankel

For BAEVSKI:
Check JEWGEN for BAEVSKI. Australian researchers have done a lot of
work on this one with a connection to a prominent AUS family. But >from the
index we have:
1867: Baevski (2)
1872: BAEVSKI Itska
1874: BAEVSKI Essel
1875: BAEVSKI Shmerka, BAEVSKI Movsha
1877: BAEVSKI Izik, BAEVSKI Girsha
1877-78: BAEVSKI Shloma-Itska, BAEVSKI Shmerka
1879: BAEVSKI Movsha
1880: BAEVSKI Girsha, BAEVSKI Movsha
1882: BAEVSKI GEdalia
1883: BAEVSKI Aizik, BAEVSKI Movsha
1887: BAEVSKI Shloma, BAEVSKI Movsha
1888: BAEVSKI Nokhim
1891: BAEVSKI Movsha, BAEVSKI Nokhim
1893: BAEVSKI Shmuel

I am also researching KARASIK >from around Gomel, Mogilev, and Korma. I am interested in the siblings, descendents, ancestors of Shalom Piivish

KARASIK..

Judith Koenig Fox

I've received 3 messages to this list in the last day in which my mail
program, Outlook Express, has displayed no text in the body of the
message.

After a little investigation of the raw message source, it seems that
the messages are being posted to the list with a Content-Type header
that specifies a MIME format message. But, the actual body of the
message does not contain the MIME boundary demarcators specified. I
assume that this stripping of stuff in the body of the message is being
done by the moderator(s). Am I right or wrong? If wrong, then what?

Geoff Shapiro

MODERATOR'S NOTE: I have asked repeatedly requested that that people
posting messages to this group turn off MIME before composing and sending
a message. The listserver software does not handle MIME formated messages.
When a MIME messages comes in for moderation, it contains = character at
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very possible that I didn't strip something >from the header that should
been. Geoff, if you send me a private e-mail with the date of the digeest
message numbers, I will repost the messages in question.

If the MIME messages continue, I may have to reject them and ask the
originators to resubmit them in the proper format. I have avoided doing
this for now to give people enough time to read their e-mail software
documentation or contact their Internet provider to get instructions
on how to turn off MIME. I checked the Sept 5 Digest which I read on
Netscape Navigator V3.01, and all messages where readable.

I've received 3 messages to this list in the last day in which my mail
program, Outlook Express, has displayed no text in the body of the
message.

After a little investigation of the raw message source, it seems that
the messages are being posted to the list with a Content-Type header
that specifies a MIME format message. But, the actual body of the
message does not contain the MIME boundary demarcators specified. I
assume that this stripping of stuff in the body of the message is being
done by the moderator(s). Am I right or wrong? If wrong, then what?

Geoff Shapiro

MODERATOR'S NOTE: I have asked repeatedly requested that that people
posting messages to this group turn off MIME before composing and sending
a message. The listserver software does not handle MIME formated messages.
When a MIME messages comes in for moderation, it contains = character at
the end of each line of text. It introduce a repeat of the message,
extra headers in the body of the message and a host of other extra
characters. It is very time consumming to manually edit each of these
messages so that the members of the group can easily read them. It is
very possible that I didn't strip something >from the header that should
been. Geoff, if you send me a private e-mail with the date of the digeest
message numbers, I will repost the messages in question.

If the MIME messages continue, I may have to reject them and ask the
originators to resubmit them in the proper format. I have avoided doing
this for now to give people enough time to read their e-mail software
documentation or contact their Internet provider to get instructions
on how to turn off MIME. I checked the Sept 5 Digest which I read on
Netscape Navigator V3.01, and all messages where readable.

To all JewishGenners...

from the incoming mail, we know you missed us...we missed you too! What

was a simple move on Sept 2 with the anticipation of a "plug and
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plug the servers into their new home...turned into a a major mystery
which was
finally resolved at about 8:30 p.m. Houston time on Sept 5.

It was the ISDN line with an incorrect setting. Please, nobody ask me
what an
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We're back and glad to be here!

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To all JewishGenners...

from the incoming mail, we know you missed us...we missed you too! What

was a simple move on Sept 2 with the anticipation of a "plug and
play"...i.e. just
plug the servers into their new home...turned into a a major mystery
which was
finally resolved at about 8:30 p.m. Houston time on Sept 5.

It was the ISDN line with an incorrect setting. Please, nobody ask me
what an
ISDN line is, I don't have the foggiest....

We're back and glad to be here!

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JewishGen Operations

Fellow Keidaners:

Any readers of the weekly English version of The Forward might have
noticed an article in this week's edition by their "society" columnist,
Masha Leon, in which she interviews actor Hal Linden, who's currently
appearing in an off-Broadway production called "Visiting Mr. Green."
Here are a couple of excerpted paragraphs:

--------------------------------------


This play connects me with my past and future." said Hal last week
during our post-performance interview in his dressing room. "We all know
people like my character. For my father, like for Mr. Green, the enemy
was the assimilated Jew. It's an easy role to play, and it's full of
Bronx tam [flavor]," continued Bronx-born (172nd Street and Bryant
Avenue) Hal (nee Lipschitz. "But at the same time it's emotionally
draining. I actually do read the Forverts to myself in the play and try
to connect with my Yiddish." When I complimented Hal on his Yiddish
articulation he was delighted. "I want you to know that although the
script reads 'fleyshedik' (referring to meat), I say it [correctlyl as
'fleshedike'." "Bravo, like a real Litvak," I applauded" ...

..."My mother was born in Bialystok and, at 96, now lives in a kosher
retirement community at Heritage Point in Mission Viejo, Orange County,
California. My father was >from Keidan in Lithuania, a twice-a-year Jew
who moved into Zionism and was one of the founders of B'nai Zion. He was
adamant about maintaining Jewish culture and tradition and it was he who
formed my Jewish identity. Though I did not go to cheder, I studied at
home for my bar mitzvah, as did my son." Hal, who is the new national
spokesman for the Jewish National Fund, described how, in the new ads,
"I say to my 'grandson', who happens to be my real grandson, Justin
Charles (Charlie after my father): 'What am I going to say to my
grandson about the little blue pushke?"

------------------------------------------

I think it was Victor Kane who told me that Linden's father was the
former president of the Keidaner Assn. of N.Y., Charles Lipshitz. There
are a couple of articles >from the late 30s in which Lipshitz is
mentioned trying to arrange to send and equitably distribute aid
packages >from the American Keidaners to their relatives and others back
home in Keidan. I tried once before to contact Linden, to see if he
still posesses any memorabilia (or memories) of that era, but could not
get past his publicist & agent. If anyone has the opportunity to catch
his show, and/or can get backstage somehow, it would be great to invite
him personally to join the Keidan group.

Cheers,

Andy

Can someone explain to me why the nomination list for the Board of Directors
contains not one name of a non-resident of the United States.

Fellow Keidaners:

Any readers of the weekly English version of The Forward might have
noticed an article in this week's edition by their "society" columnist,
Masha Leon, in which she interviews actor Hal Linden, who's currently
appearing in an off-Broadway production called "Visiting Mr. Green."
Here are a couple of excerpted paragraphs:

--------------------------------------


This play connects me with my past and future." said Hal last week
during our post-performance interview in his dressing room. "We all know
people like my character. For my father, like for Mr. Green, the enemy
was the assimilated Jew. It's an easy role to play, and it's full of
Bronx tam [flavor]," continued Bronx-born (172nd Street and Bryant
Avenue) Hal (nee Lipschitz. "But at the same time it's emotionally
draining. I actually do read the Forverts to myself in the play and try
to connect with my Yiddish." When I complimented Hal on his Yiddish
articulation he was delighted. "I want you to know that although the
script reads 'fleyshedik' (referring to meat), I say it [correctlyl as
'fleshedike'." "Bravo, like a real Litvak," I applauded" ...

..."My mother was born in Bialystok and, at 96, now lives in a kosher
retirement community at Heritage Point in Mission Viejo, Orange County,
California. My father was >from Keidan in Lithuania, a twice-a-year Jew
who moved into Zionism and was one of the founders of B'nai Zion. He was
adamant about maintaining Jewish culture and tradition and it was he who
formed my Jewish identity. Though I did not go to cheder, I studied at
home for my bar mitzvah, as did my son." Hal, who is the new national
spokesman for the Jewish National Fund, described how, in the new ads,
"I say to my 'grandson', who happens to be my real grandson, Justin
Charles (Charlie after my father): 'What am I going to say to my
grandson about the little blue pushke?"

------------------------------------------

I think it was Victor Kane who told me that Linden's father was the
former president of the Keidaner Assn. of N.Y., Charles Lipshitz. There
are a couple of articles >from the late 30s in which Lipshitz is
mentioned trying to arrange to send and equitably distribute aid
packages >from the American Keidaners to their relatives and others back
home in Keidan. I tried once before to contact Linden, to see if he
still posesses any memorabilia (or memories) of that era, but could not
get past his publicist & agent. If anyone has the opportunity to catch
his show, and/or can get backstage somehow, it would be great to invite
him personally to join the Keidan group.

Cheers,

Andy

Can someone explain to me why the nomination list for the Board of Directors
contains not one name of a non-resident of the United States.