Frequently we need addresses to obtain birth, marriage, death,
and divorce records or certificates >from a Vital Record office.
The pamphlet of Vital Records published by the Government Printing
Office is several years out-of-date and the fees for these records
are usually obsolete. For the most up-to-date information go to
this site:

< http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/vitalrec/staterec.html#territories>;

This site contains current information about where to obtain
vital records >from each state and territory of the United States
and guidelines for ordering vital records. It also offers links
to foreign vital record web sites.

Eleanor Bien

Frequently we need addresses to obtain birth, marriage, death,
and divorce records or certificates >from a Vital Record office.
The pamphlet of Vital Records published by the Government Printing
Office is several years out-of-date and the fees for these records
are usually obsolete. For the most up-to-date information go to
this site:

< http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/vitalrec/staterec.html#territories>;

This site contains current information about where to obtain
vital records >from each state and territory of the United States
and guidelines for ordering vital records. It also offers links
to foreign vital record web sites.

Eleanor Bien

If you are looking for help in Typing or Hebrew/English/Hebrew
Translation or Genealogical Research, write to me and, for a very
moderate charge I will save you time and bring results.
Shmuel Kehati, Fax: +972-9-742-1164
Kehati@callmanage.co.il

The following records have been added to the JRI-Poland database for the town
of Czyzewo, Lomza, Poland. Thank you to those who are assisting with this
effort.

Gary Palgon
Shtetl Co-op Coordinator

CZYZEWO LO BI B 1827-31, 34-37
M 1826-31, 34-37
D 1826-31, 34-37

If you are looking for help in Typing or Hebrew/English/Hebrew
Translation or Genealogical Research, write to me and, for a very
moderate charge I will save you time and bring results.
Shmuel Kehati, Fax: +972-9-742-1164
Kehati@callmanage.co.il

The following records have been added to the JRI-Poland database for the town
of Czyzewo, Lomza, Poland. Thank you to those who are assisting with this
effort.

Gary Palgon
Shtetl Co-op Coordinator

CZYZEWO LO BI B 1827-31, 34-37
M 1826-31, 34-37
D 1826-31, 34-37

We don't have that many, but our tree was still too large to show
at our family reunion in 1997. We pasted our individual sheets
together into one lengthwise sheet. My husband took a short
curtain rod with knobs on the end and rolled this sheet onto it
like a Torah scroll.
It was wonderful to see the faces of the family members as they
unrolled the trees to look for their own branches of the family.

Good luck!
Edithe Silver (South Jersey)
Seeking information:
BARUCH>Hungary>NY,PINAND>Hungary,FRANZBLAU>Hungary,GRUENBAUM>Minsk
GAERTNER<GERTNER>GARTNER>Hungary>NY, HERSKOWITZ (AKA
HERSHEY)>Hungary>NY>Montreal>NY, RUDERMAN>Minsk>NY, SOLOVEICHIK(aka SOLOV or
SOLOW)>Minsk>NY,MARGOLIES>Minsk

I had posted earlier to soc.genealogy.jewish, and received no reply. I
hope someone >from this list may be able to help me.

My father and family were >from Warsaw; his family had consisted of his
father, mother, four sisters, and one brother. His oldest sister was
married and delivered a baby shortly after Warsaw fell, Sept. 29th. My
father came to the U.S. in October 1938, as a means to continue his
education, and as a result, never saw his family again.

My father's brother, Sevek (Shyja Chaim) Grynberg was scheduled to
arrive in the U.S. in October 1939, but never was able to meet his
quota. In the first letter received by my father's sister, Sevek had
gone to a "work camp" in Hrubieszonsic, which was early 1940. Where or
what is this? I've not been able to find any information on this place.
Also, what happened to those who went to this "work camp"? Are there
any records?

Secondly, my question pertains to a list of deporations or names of
those exterminated in Treblinka. I am well aware that the Nazis razed
Treblinka upon advance of the Russian army, but what did the Nazis do
with their records? I have consistently been told that no lists exist
for Treblinka, and I cannot understand this as records do exist for
other death camps.

I have reached so many dead-ends in my endeavor to seek closure on what
happened to my family, and have been unsuccessful. (When in Israel, I
did place their names in the Hall of Names at Yad Vashem.)

If anyone has any information they can share or offer advice, I would be
sincerely grateful.

Thank you.

Nancy Greenberg
macl@sgi.net

You must have read my mind. What is AKT?

We don't have that many, but our tree was still too large to show
at our family reunion in 1997. We pasted our individual sheets
together into one lengthwise sheet. My husband took a short
curtain rod with knobs on the end and rolled this sheet onto it
like a Torah scroll.
It was wonderful to see the faces of the family members as they
unrolled the trees to look for their own branches of the family.

Good luck!
Edithe Silver (South Jersey)
Seeking information:
BARUCH>Hungary>NY,PINAND>Hungary,FRANZBLAU>Hungary,GRUENBAUM>Minsk
GAERTNER<GERTNER>GARTNER>Hungary>NY, HERSKOWITZ (AKA
HERSHEY)>Hungary>NY>Montreal>NY, RUDERMAN>Minsk>NY, SOLOVEICHIK(aka SOLOV or
SOLOW)>Minsk>NY,MARGOLIES>Minsk

I had posted earlier to soc.genealogy.jewish, and received no reply. I
hope someone >from this list may be able to help me.

My father and family were >from Warsaw; his family had consisted of his
father, mother, four sisters, and one brother. His oldest sister was
married and delivered a baby shortly after Warsaw fell, Sept. 29th. My
father came to the U.S. in October 1938, as a means to continue his
education, and as a result, never saw his family again.

My father's brother, Sevek (Shyja Chaim) Grynberg was scheduled to
arrive in the U.S. in October 1939, but never was able to meet his
quota. In the first letter received by my father's sister, Sevek had
gone to a "work camp" in Hrubieszonsic, which was early 1940. Where or
what is this? I've not been able to find any information on this place.
Also, what happened to those who went to this "work camp"? Are there
any records?

Secondly, my question pertains to a list of deporations or names of
those exterminated in Treblinka. I am well aware that the Nazis razed
Treblinka upon advance of the Russian army, but what did the Nazis do
with their records? I have consistently been told that no lists exist
for Treblinka, and I cannot understand this as records do exist for
other death camps.

I have reached so many dead-ends in my endeavor to seek closure on what
happened to my family, and have been unsuccessful. (When in Israel, I
did place their names in the Hall of Names at Yad Vashem.)

If anyone has any information they can share or offer advice, I would be
sincerely grateful.

Thank you.

Nancy Greenberg
macl@sgi.net

You must have read my mind. What is AKT?

A few further bits on this synagogue.
According to V.D. Lipman, A History of the Jews in Britain since 1858,
1990, p.53, the synagogue was built by traditionally minded immigrants
who did not like the latitudinarian tendencies of Rev J.F. Stern who
was the minister of the East London Synagogue, built in 1877. Stern's
congregation tended to be composed of the more anglicised and
established Jews of the area. He was popularly known as the Bishop;
his son was killed in action in 1915.
Clearly the Stepney Orthodox Synagogue was built after 1877. I have
not got the exact date.
There may be more information in Geoffrey Alderman's history of the
Federation of Synagogues and Sharman Kadish has written on the history
of synagogues in Britain. I do not have these books in front of me to check.

Harold Pollins
Oxford England

pollins@globalnet.co.uk

A few further bits on this synagogue.
According to V.D. Lipman, A History of the Jews in Britain since 1858,
1990, p.53, the synagogue was built by traditionally minded immigrants
who did not like the latitudinarian tendencies of Rev J.F. Stern who
was the minister of the East London Synagogue, built in 1877. Stern's
congregation tended to be composed of the more anglicised and
established Jews of the area. He was popularly known as the Bishop;
his son was killed in action in 1915.
Clearly the Stepney Orthodox Synagogue was built after 1877. I have
not got the exact date.
There may be more information in Geoffrey Alderman's history of the
Federation of Synagogues and Sharman Kadish has written on the history
of synagogues in Britain. I do not have these books in front of me to check.

Harold Pollins
Oxford England

pollins@globalnet.co.uk

Ricki Randall Zunk is so correct but I didn't realise there was
anyone else out there with the same passion as I. That is in
connecting with present-day descendants of our predecessors as
well as researching those that have gone before us.

We have just had a visitor for two days here in Manchester,
England >from Philadelphia. Her gggrandfather was the brother of
my husbands ggrandmother. That makes her about a 7th cousin to my
husband and there are some people that might think we are completely
mad but as Ricki Randall Zunk said, they are descended >from the same
root stock. It was such an enlightening visit. We had been on
email for the last two years but after meeting her personally we
felt very comfortable with her as though we had known her forever.
She knew less than I had discovered about this part of the family
genealogy, before we "found" her.

I would very much like to promote family genealogy in Jewish
schools in England so that our youth will not forget where they
came >from and who they are as Jews and perhaps, what there
predecessors sacrificed in order to live.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England.

Ricki Randall Zunk is so correct but I didn't realise there was
anyone else out there with the same passion as I. That is in
connecting with present-day descendants of our predecessors as
well as researching those that have gone before us.

We have just had a visitor for two days here in Manchester,
England >from Philadelphia. Her gggrandfather was the brother of
my husbands ggrandmother. That makes her about a 7th cousin to my
husband and there are some people that might think we are completely
mad but as Ricki Randall Zunk said, they are descended >from the same
root stock. It was such an enlightening visit. We had been on
email for the last two years but after meeting her personally we
felt very comfortable with her as though we had known her forever.
She knew less than I had discovered about this part of the family
genealogy, before we "found" her.

I would very much like to promote family genealogy in Jewish
schools in England so that our youth will not forget where they
came >from and who they are as Jews and perhaps, what there
predecessors sacrificed in order to live.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England.

Dear J.G

In my letter >from today I do a mistake. The date must be:

19 Nisan or 12 Nisan (Yud Tet or Yud Bet) Taf Kuf Lamed Zein = Taklaz =
537. = 1777

Ury link
Amsterdam
Holland

Dear J.G

In my letter >from today I do a mistake. The date must be:

19 Nisan or 12 Nisan (Yud Tet or Yud Bet) Taf Kuf Lamed Zein = Taklaz =
537. = 1777

Ury link
Amsterdam
Holland

On 2 Sep 98, at 12:18, MBernet@aol.com wrote:

Cohanim are a subset of the tribe of Levi. Commonly, the gravestone of a
Cohen is marked with two hands, thumbs touching, spread two finger, space,
two fingers, space, thumbs . . . to mark the Cohen's only surviving
religious function, raising his hands to bless ("dukhaning"). If these
symbols appear on your ancestor's tombstones, the word Cohen might have
been considered superfluous. It is also superfluous if the name Katz
appears, or they are designated with the letters Kaf-Tzade.

The fact that a person bears the name Katz does not necessarily indicate
that they are a cohen. My son-in-law's family name is Katz and he is not
a cohen. His family acquired the name, apparently for one of the reasons
for name change common in Eastern Europe during the last century.

A Cohen who is physically deformed in certain ways, by birth disease or
accident, or one who marries a divorced woman or a proselyte, may no
longer assume his functions. I am not sure to what extent that would
exclude also his descendants.

The descendants of a cohen who marries a divorcee or proselyte are
not cohanim, those of a physically impaired cohen are.
Abe
Abraham & Shulamith Lebowitz (Har Nof-Jerusalem) aileb@actcom.co.il

MODERATOR NOTE: While of genealogical interest, we are now getting
into differences of opinion more heavily weighted in religious
interpretation. This forum is not appropriate for such discussion.
Please continue privately as this thread is ended.

On 2 Sep 98, at 12:18, MBernet@aol.com wrote:

Cohanim are a subset of the tribe of Levi. Commonly, the gravestone of a
Cohen is marked with two hands, thumbs touching, spread two finger, space,
two fingers, space, thumbs . . . to mark the Cohen's only surviving
religious function, raising his hands to bless ("dukhaning"). If these
symbols appear on your ancestor's tombstones, the word Cohen might have
been considered superfluous. It is also superfluous if the name Katz
appears, or they are designated with the letters Kaf-Tzade.

The fact that a person bears the name Katz does not necessarily indicate
that they are a cohen. My son-in-law's family name is Katz and he is not
a cohen. His family acquired the name, apparently for one of the reasons
for name change common in Eastern Europe during the last century.

A Cohen who is physically deformed in certain ways, by birth disease or
accident, or one who marries a divorced woman or a proselyte, may no
longer assume his functions. I am not sure to what extent that would
exclude also his descendants.

The descendants of a cohen who marries a divorcee or proselyte are
not cohanim, those of a physically impaired cohen are.
Abe
Abraham & Shulamith Lebowitz (Har Nof-Jerusalem) aileb@actcom.co.il

MODERATOR NOTE: While of genealogical interest, we are now getting
into differences of opinion more heavily weighted in religious
interpretation. This forum is not appropriate for such discussion.
Please continue privately as this thread is ended.