Tracie -

On your signature on your success story (congratulations!!), you have
SCHNEIDER >from Kiev. I also have SCHNEIDER ancestors >from Kiev - Abraham
and Ida SCHNEIDER (SNYDER) owned a tavern on a crossroads outside of Kiev.

They received advance notice of a pogrom and were able to sell the tavern
and emigrate. They came over in 1882 with 4 or 5 of their children (the
rest were born in the US in NYC). One of their daughters, Bessie, was my
great grandmother. I have the names of all Bessie's brothers and sisters
and many of their descendants. Bessie married Israel Goldberg in NYC and
their children started the Goldberg family association in NY in 1929.

Does anything sound familiar?

Lynn Wertheim-DiMatteo
Staten Island, N.Y.
LiniWD@compuserve.com

Joseph Goldschmidt wrote:

I would like to know how to translate "second (or any other number)
cousin" into german.

To which Werner Cohn replied:

"Vetter zweiten Grades," according to my Wildhagen dictionary

Perfectly correct, except that "Vetter" is only for a male cousin, a second
cousin, female, would be:

"Base zweiten Grades."

Personally, I have always found the use of the word "Vetter" for cousin
confusing, since it can also mean uncle.

There is also another way of saying first cousin in German, and that is
"Geschwisterkind," which might be found on some older documents. A second
cousin could be either "Ander Geschwisterkind" or "Geschwisterkindskind."

Werner
--
Werner Hirsch
Curator, JHS of Gr. New Haven (CT)
JHS Homepage: http://pages.cthome.net/hirsch/

Baron is a fairly common forename for Jewish men. Is it uniquely so or do
non-Jews also have that name? I'm wondering that if one comes across that
name in one's research can one assume that the person is Jewish?

Harold Pollins
Oxford England

pollins@globalnet.co.uk

Is there a volume of Pinkhas hakehillot for the part of Bukovina that is now
in the Ukraine?

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk

Tracie -

On your signature on your success story (congratulations!!), you have
SCHNEIDER >from Kiev. I also have SCHNEIDER ancestors >from Kiev - Abraham
and Ida SCHNEIDER (SNYDER) owned a tavern on a crossroads outside of Kiev.

They received advance notice of a pogrom and were able to sell the tavern
and emigrate. They came over in 1882 with 4 or 5 of their children (the
rest were born in the US in NYC). One of their daughters, Bessie, was my
great grandmother. I have the names of all Bessie's brothers and sisters
and many of their descendants. Bessie married Israel Goldberg in NYC and
their children started the Goldberg family association in NY in 1929.

Does anything sound familiar?

Lynn Wertheim-DiMatteo
Staten Island, N.Y.
LiniWD@compuserve.com

Joseph Goldschmidt wrote:

I would like to know how to translate "second (or any other number)
cousin" into german.

To which Werner Cohn replied:

"Vetter zweiten Grades," according to my Wildhagen dictionary

Perfectly correct, except that "Vetter" is only for a male cousin, a second
cousin, female, would be:

"Base zweiten Grades."

Personally, I have always found the use of the word "Vetter" for cousin
confusing, since it can also mean uncle.

There is also another way of saying first cousin in German, and that is
"Geschwisterkind," which might be found on some older documents. A second
cousin could be either "Ander Geschwisterkind" or "Geschwisterkindskind."

Werner
--
Werner Hirsch
Curator, JHS of Gr. New Haven (CT)
JHS Homepage: http://pages.cthome.net/hirsch/

Baron is a fairly common forename for Jewish men. Is it uniquely so or do
non-Jews also have that name? I'm wondering that if one comes across that
name in one's research can one assume that the person is Jewish?

Harold Pollins
Oxford England

pollins@globalnet.co.uk

Is there a volume of Pinkhas hakehillot for the part of Bukovina that is now
in the Ukraine?

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk

If so, please contact us for possible family linkage among the Kleins that

goes back to the late 18th - early 19th centuries.

==some text deleted for brevity==

If any of you H-Siggers have Kleins in your family tree who descended from

the aforementioned towns or region of Slovakia, please do contact one of us,
through H-Sig or privately. We'll be happy to share our information with you.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC
kledolph@acpub.duke.edu

Robert Klein
Be'er Sheva
hamoreh@netvision.net.il

My maternal gfather was Martin Klein, the Ortodox Rabbi of Zilina, now
Slovakia, in the 1930s and 40s.

Moshe Shavit
Israel
mms@actcom.co.il

If so, please contact us for possible family linkage among the Kleins that

goes back to the late 18th - early 19th centuries.

==some text deleted for brevity==

If any of you H-Siggers have Kleins in your family tree who descended from

the aforementioned towns or region of Slovakia, please do contact one of us,
through H-Sig or privately. We'll be happy to share our information with you.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC
kledolph@acpub.duke.edu

Robert Klein
Be'er Sheva
hamoreh@netvision.net.il

My maternal gfather was Martin Klein, the Ortodox Rabbi of Zilina, now
Slovakia, in the 1930s and 40s.

Moshe Shavit
Israel
mms@actcom.co.il

I am searching for my cousin, whose maiden name was Pelsa STEINER. She lived
in Paris in the early 1950's. I do not know if she's married, single, alive
or dead. Her mother was probably a ROSENBAUM, most likely originally from
Southern Poland.

If anyone out there knows or has any information on Pesla, I surely would
appreciate some help in locating her.

Maya Hahn
Atlanta, GA

I am searching for my cousin, whose maiden name was Pelsa STEINER. She lived
in Paris in the early 1950's. I do not know if she's married, single, alive
or dead. Her mother was probably a ROSENBAUM, most likely originally from
Southern Poland.

If anyone out there knows or has any information on Pesla, I surely would
appreciate some help in locating her.

Maya Hahn
Atlanta, GA

I have hit a "brick wall" trying to locate the last of my MOED
g-grandfather's 8 children/families. Lena MOED (b.ca 1895 in Odessa)
married-in NY- Joe SCHWARTZ & had 3 children:
Paul, Irving & Hilda. They all may still be living-in their mid/ late 70's
to early 80's. The sheer volume of "same" names on Social Security Death
Index renders such an approach insurmountable & as I said they may not be on this list.. Lena died around 1960, probably on Long Island,NY All the
appropriate NYC death records were of the wrong Lena. SCHWARTZ. Hilda is
thought to have married a PERONE. No one in my "family" has been in touch
with them since 1945!!! Any suggested research approaches appreciated.
Art

I have hit a "brick wall" trying to locate the last of my MOED
g-grandfather's 8 children/families. Lena MOED (b.ca 1895 in Odessa)
married-in NY- Joe SCHWARTZ & had 3 children:
Paul, Irving & Hilda. They all may still be living-in their mid/ late 70's
to early 80's. The sheer volume of "same" names on Social Security Death
Index renders such an approach insurmountable & as I said they may not be on this list.. Lena died around 1960, probably on Long Island,NY All the
appropriate NYC death records were of the wrong Lena. SCHWARTZ. Hilda is
thought to have married a PERONE. No one in my "family" has been in touch
with them since 1945!!! Any suggested research approaches appreciated.
Art

My book called Jewish Sights of Bohemia and Moravia spells the town Bzenec
and places it SE 240 km >from Prague and 55 km SE of Brno The question mark
made want to reply.
Thanks

Susan Boyer

I am posting this message for a friend of mine who does not have a
computer. Anton VALDINE a/k/a Valdine Anton SERGYEVICH was to copy
and translate documents and send them to Marge.

Anyone with information on Anton or a current e-mail address, please
contact me privately and I will forward your message to Marge.

Myrna Siegel
ssi448@nwu.edu

I am looking for information concerning our family the "COHENOUR" family.
Please email me at cohenour@kiva.net thank you

Mr. Charles E. Cohenour Jr.


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Your first efforts should be directed at scouring the
many pages at JewishGen. www.jewishgen.org

Lemuel writes:
Dear All,

Just an added comment to the passenger list database, isn't it
convenient to run a search for surnames to verify that a
surname does indeed appear on the list without the specific
requirement to identify which ship?

Perhaps Lemuel could identify in which of the many internet
search engines devoted to passenger ships he has found names of
passengers?

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA

Folks, I have had some clues that part of my wifes family went thru
Singapore in their travels, and at least one of them, possibly her great
Grandfather Israel Judel Goldberg died there. Since this would probably
in the 1930's maybe the Colonial Office in UK might be a place to start.
Appreciate any ideas.

Regards, Tony Stern

Researching: STERN, Plock, SHINWELL, Sochaczew,UK, SA, GOLDBERG
Palestine, India, Singapore, Indonesia, SHAPIRO Bialystok, CHRZAN Plock,
Ciechanow, KONINGSWINTER-UK, Holland, HELDER - Holland , VISSER
-Holland, Van der LAAN- Holland, WERWAL- Plock, GONSKA- Plock, FREEDMAN
or SARDASKI - Poland, UK

My book called Jewish Sights of Bohemia and Moravia spells the town Bzenec
and places it SE 240 km >from Prague and 55 km SE of Brno The question mark
made want to reply.
Thanks

Susan Boyer