Date   

Gold mine received #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

I got my documents >from my cousin Adam Vincze in Israel and they are
amazing. He sent them with translations >from the Hungarian into
english. The documents relate to Adam's grandparents Izidore and
Karolina Krausz, who remained in Budapest until 1946. I received:

Ungvar marriage certificate of Izidore and Karolina Lefkovics -
providing a marriage date and confirmation that the marriage occurred n
Ungvar, as I had suspected.

A document entitled Bejelentest Igazolo szelveny which is a certificate
of Izidore's residence in Budapest (issued in 1936) and gave the
residence address - complete with apartment number

A document entitled Illetosegi bizonyitvany issued in 1938 which states
that Izidore (who was a goldsmith) was a burgher of Budapest under
statute XXII of 1886

A document entitled Helyhatosagi bizonyitvany, issued in 1939 which
states that the goldsmith business had some sort of tax waiver and the
document gave the address of the business

A document >from the Jewish Community in Obuda dated 1938 stating that
the marriage of Heinrick Krausz and Katalin Bak (Izidore's parents) is
not documented because it purportedly occurred in 1850, and Obuda did
not start to keep marriage records until 1851. I did not know the
marriage date of Heinrick and Katalin, who are my 2nd great
grandparents.

The private letters >from my grandfather to his sister Karolina were
sort of disappointing. They contained a little family news that I
already knew about, and had a lot of "thank G-d you are all right"s in
them. No surprise since Karolina made it through the Shoah in one piece
and the letters were written in 1946 and 1947.

Debbi


Searching SCHMID/GOLDSTEIN/SMITH #general

Patricia Adams
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to research my family, but don't know where they came from.
Nathan SCHMID married Blum GOLDSTEIN in Warszaw, (Russia?) in 1897. Their
first son, Benjamin was born 1899. The 2nd son, my father, Maurice (Morris)
Smith was born in 1902, either in the US or England. The resided in New
York City and were known as Nathan SMITH and Jennie/Jeanette Smith.

I am another new researcher and would appreciate any help available. Thanks to all.

Patricia Adams
Alstead, NH
pla@sover.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Gold mine received #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

I got my documents >from my cousin Adam Vincze in Israel and they are
amazing. He sent them with translations >from the Hungarian into
english. The documents relate to Adam's grandparents Izidore and
Karolina Krausz, who remained in Budapest until 1946. I received:

Ungvar marriage certificate of Izidore and Karolina Lefkovics -
providing a marriage date and confirmation that the marriage occurred n
Ungvar, as I had suspected.

A document entitled Bejelentest Igazolo szelveny which is a certificate
of Izidore's residence in Budapest (issued in 1936) and gave the
residence address - complete with apartment number

A document entitled Illetosegi bizonyitvany issued in 1938 which states
that Izidore (who was a goldsmith) was a burgher of Budapest under
statute XXII of 1886

A document entitled Helyhatosagi bizonyitvany, issued in 1939 which
states that the goldsmith business had some sort of tax waiver and the
document gave the address of the business

A document >from the Jewish Community in Obuda dated 1938 stating that
the marriage of Heinrick Krausz and Katalin Bak (Izidore's parents) is
not documented because it purportedly occurred in 1850, and Obuda did
not start to keep marriage records until 1851. I did not know the
marriage date of Heinrick and Katalin, who are my 2nd great
grandparents.

The private letters >from my grandfather to his sister Karolina were
sort of disappointing. They contained a little family news that I
already knew about, and had a lot of "thank G-d you are all right"s in
them. No surprise since Karolina made it through the Shoah in one piece
and the letters were written in 1946 and 1947.

Debbi


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching SCHMID/GOLDSTEIN/SMITH #general

Patricia Adams
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to research my family, but don't know where they came from.
Nathan SCHMID married Blum GOLDSTEIN in Warszaw, (Russia?) in 1897. Their
first son, Benjamin was born 1899. The 2nd son, my father, Maurice (Morris)
Smith was born in 1902, either in the US or England. The resided in New
York City and were known as Nathan SMITH and Jennie/Jeanette Smith.

I am another new researcher and would appreciate any help available. Thanks to all.

Patricia Adams
Alstead, NH
pla@sover.net


BASSEIN/BASSIN #belarus

dardasht@...
 

Dear Miriam:
I think the name you are looking for is now BASIN or BASSIN. There
are quite a number in the Mogilev records, and probably more in Minsk. A
few years ago, one of the leaders in the Minsk community was a BASIN, he
may be in Brooklyn now -- sorry i can't think of his name, but I will ask
my contacts. if you have access to a Brooklyn or Los Angeles Phone Book you
might be surprised to see how many of these spellings are there.

If this helps, the Mogilev birth index of fathers of baby boys are:
1865: BASSIN, no first name
1870-1: BASSIN, no first name
1873: BASSIN Gerts/Hirsh,
1875: BASSIN Khonon (Khanon/Elchanan)
1878: BASSIN Yankel (twins)
1880: BASSIN Nokhim, BASSIN Khonon
1883: BASSOV Khanin (could be BASSIN Khonon)
1885: BASSIN Vigdor (Avigdor/Victor)
1886: BAS Khaim (could be BASSIN)
1888: BASSIN Osher-Movsha
1889: BASHKIN Movsha-Yankel (could be BASSIN), BASSIN Vigdor
1891: BASSIN Osher-Movsha, BASSIN Itska-Vulf, BASSIN Vigdor
1892: BASSIN Aron, BAS Khaim
1893: BAS Pirsh-Berk (could be BASSIN)

These are fathers of baby boys, index of 1864-1894 on 5th roll of 7 rolls
of Mogilev Crown Rabbinate Records. Actual records begin 1837. Index was
transliterated by recent Mogilev immigrant Bella Nayer of Brooklyn.
Best regards,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com


Subject: Searching surname BASSEIN
From: Mpcamitta@aol.com

I am searching for family with the surname BASSEIN. They came to the U.S.
from Minsk in 1907. Has anyone run across this name?
Miriam Camitta


Belarus SIG #Belarus BASSEIN/BASSIN #belarus

dardasht@...
 

Dear Miriam:
I think the name you are looking for is now BASIN or BASSIN. There
are quite a number in the Mogilev records, and probably more in Minsk. A
few years ago, one of the leaders in the Minsk community was a BASIN, he
may be in Brooklyn now -- sorry i can't think of his name, but I will ask
my contacts. if you have access to a Brooklyn or Los Angeles Phone Book you
might be surprised to see how many of these spellings are there.

If this helps, the Mogilev birth index of fathers of baby boys are:
1865: BASSIN, no first name
1870-1: BASSIN, no first name
1873: BASSIN Gerts/Hirsh,
1875: BASSIN Khonon (Khanon/Elchanan)
1878: BASSIN Yankel (twins)
1880: BASSIN Nokhim, BASSIN Khonon
1883: BASSOV Khanin (could be BASSIN Khonon)
1885: BASSIN Vigdor (Avigdor/Victor)
1886: BAS Khaim (could be BASSIN)
1888: BASSIN Osher-Movsha
1889: BASHKIN Movsha-Yankel (could be BASSIN), BASSIN Vigdor
1891: BASSIN Osher-Movsha, BASSIN Itska-Vulf, BASSIN Vigdor
1892: BASSIN Aron, BAS Khaim
1893: BAS Pirsh-Berk (could be BASSIN)

These are fathers of baby boys, index of 1864-1894 on 5th roll of 7 rolls
of Mogilev Crown Rabbinate Records. Actual records begin 1837. Index was
transliterated by recent Mogilev immigrant Bella Nayer of Brooklyn.
Best regards,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com


Subject: Searching surname BASSEIN
From: Mpcamitta@aol.com

I am searching for family with the surname BASSEIN. They came to the U.S.
from Minsk in 1907. Has anyone run across this name?
Miriam Camitta


Help With the Deych Data Base/ZUSSMAN #general

Allen B. Saxe <saxe@...>
 

I am searching the parents of Raishe ZUSSMAN Bensman.Her father was a
Rabbi (or religious teacher).The Deych Data Base list five "Zussmans".
Can someone provide me with information for each of the persons listed
below.

Name Guberniya Town
1.Zisman,Moshko bes086 Brachany
2.Zusman,Gilel grd031 Belostok
3.Zusman,Ovsei mns019 Minsk
4.Zysman,Shinder mns047 Kholopenichi
5.Shetsman,Arie vtb099 Orekhovna


Please post your responses or conatc me personally at
saxe@charlotte.infi.net.

Allen B. Saxe

Searching

SCHARJA Janow/Sokolka,Poland
(Spain,Portugal,Amsterdam,Poland,Milwaukee,Wisconsin?)
SHOMSKY Janow/Sokolka,Warsaw
LEV Janow/Sokolka
BENSMAN Lepel,Belarus and Sheboygan,Wisconsin
ZUSSMAN Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help With the Deych Data Base/ZUSSMAN #general

Allen B. Saxe <saxe@...>
 

I am searching the parents of Raishe ZUSSMAN Bensman.Her father was a
Rabbi (or religious teacher).The Deych Data Base list five "Zussmans".
Can someone provide me with information for each of the persons listed
below.

Name Guberniya Town
1.Zisman,Moshko bes086 Brachany
2.Zusman,Gilel grd031 Belostok
3.Zusman,Ovsei mns019 Minsk
4.Zysman,Shinder mns047 Kholopenichi
5.Shetsman,Arie vtb099 Orekhovna


Please post your responses or conatc me personally at
saxe@charlotte.infi.net.

Allen B. Saxe

Searching

SCHARJA Janow/Sokolka,Poland
(Spain,Portugal,Amsterdam,Poland,Milwaukee,Wisconsin?)
SHOMSKY Janow/Sokolka,Warsaw
LEV Janow/Sokolka
BENSMAN Lepel,Belarus and Sheboygan,Wisconsin
ZUSSMAN Belarus


Re: yizkor digest: October 21, 1998 #yizkorbooks

mms@...
 

Yizkor Project Digest for Wednesday, October 21, 1998.

1. Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book
From: Joelrat@aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:19:22 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Is there anyone out there interested in helping to translate a Yizkor book for
Vilna [Bleter Vegn Vilna]? I have posted this request on the Vilna Web page
months ago with no response. I also tried through the LitvakSIG - again, no
response. I've got a head start as I have already translated the lists of
names [approx. 1100] >from the book.


Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna Uezd Research Group

from which language?
Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@actcom.co.il
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: yizkor digest: October 21, 1998 #yizkorbooks

mms@...
 

Yizkor Project Digest for Wednesday, October 21, 1998.

1. Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book
From: Joelrat@aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:19:22 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Is there anyone out there interested in helping to translate a Yizkor book for
Vilna [Bleter Vegn Vilna]? I have posted this request on the Vilna Web page
months ago with no response. I also tried through the LitvakSIG - again, no
response. I've got a head start as I have already translated the lists of
names [approx. 1100] >from the book.


Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna Uezd Research Group

from which language?
Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@actcom.co.il
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


Re: Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book #yizkorbooks

Seflaum@...
 

Hi Joel,
It's possible my mother would be able to help with the translation, but I have
to ask her. BTW, she is >from Vilna. What language is the book written in,
sounds like it's Yiddish?

Regards,
Shirley Flaum


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Translation Volunteers needed -Vilna Yizkor book #yizkorbooks

Seflaum@...
 

Hi Joel,
It's possible my mother would be able to help with the translation, but I have
to ask her. BTW, she is >from Vilna. What language is the book written in,
sounds like it's Yiddish?

Regards,
Shirley Flaum


LIFSHITS - mogilev #belarus

dardasht@...
 

Dear Steven:
Have I sent you the LIFSHITS names >from Mogilev Birth Index? There
are many, many LIFSHITS listed as fathers of baby boys in the index covering
1864-1894.
Let me know and I will send them.
Best wishes
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,


Belarus SIG #Belarus LIFSHITS - mogilev #belarus

dardasht@...
 

Dear Steven:
Have I sent you the LIFSHITS names >from Mogilev Birth Index? There
are many, many LIFSHITS listed as fathers of baby boys in the index covering
1864-1894.
Let me know and I will send them.
Best wishes
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,


All my friendly happy relatives ?! #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

hello there,
Do you send Jewish New Year cards out to your Jewish
friends & immediate family each year? I have just finshed
a 2 week effort of going thru my 1100 relative tree, identifying
125 good addresses, photocopying 1000 pages of trees,
photocopying a jewish new year card and hello letter,
getting over $100 in stamps, and showing up at my post office
with 25 overseas letters. My total expenditure is over $200.
So, why the effort? I last did this in 1996 with postcards. As
my tree info has now reached the point of being "semi-mature",
I decided it was time to share the wealth and, hopefully get some
feedback in the process. What happened? Almost every one of
my NYC relatives moved. It became a task of verifying most
addresses with an internet phone directory to avoid return mail.
I am getting a few responses which are all 100% thankful. I am
using these thank-you's to get addresses of needed relatives.
I will then send them a tree as well. This effort is helping me reach
younger relatives who don't know of me or my research. Many
genealogy books have touched on the benefits of contacting
relatives. I am merely taking the idea and raising it a level or two.
As a genealogist, I seem to be a collector of family bios, stories,
documents, and photos. By my reaching out in a friendly,
systematic effort, I will be able to visit more relatives, share
my information, and snap some more photos. One of my older
relatives wrote: "Thank you on behalf of my children, my family
to be and my family that was." All I need now is more closet space!

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: larklane@juno.com
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen All my friendly happy relatives ?! #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

hello there,
Do you send Jewish New Year cards out to your Jewish
friends & immediate family each year? I have just finshed
a 2 week effort of going thru my 1100 relative tree, identifying
125 good addresses, photocopying 1000 pages of trees,
photocopying a jewish new year card and hello letter,
getting over $100 in stamps, and showing up at my post office
with 25 overseas letters. My total expenditure is over $200.
So, why the effort? I last did this in 1996 with postcards. As
my tree info has now reached the point of being "semi-mature",
I decided it was time to share the wealth and, hopefully get some
feedback in the process. What happened? Almost every one of
my NYC relatives moved. It became a task of verifying most
addresses with an internet phone directory to avoid return mail.
I am getting a few responses which are all 100% thankful. I am
using these thank-you's to get addresses of needed relatives.
I will then send them a tree as well. This effort is helping me reach
younger relatives who don't know of me or my research. Many
genealogy books have touched on the benefits of contacting
relatives. I am merely taking the idea and raising it a level or two.
As a genealogist, I seem to be a collector of family bios, stories,
documents, and photos. By my reaching out in a friendly,
systematic effort, I will be able to visit more relatives, share
my information, and snap some more photos. One of my older
relatives wrote: "Thank you on behalf of my children, my family
to be and my family that was." All I need now is more closet space!

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: larklane@juno.com
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/


LUFT and GRUNBLATT from Kolomea (Kolomyya) #general

Nardino <nbonomi@...>
 

Dears jewishgenners,
I'm searching on Luft and Grunblatt >from Kolomea (actual Ukraine). I write
because, in the case someone is interested in or connected to this branch
of the Luft and
Grunblatt family, I have some information (and photos) that I would like to
share.
Josef (or Iosiph) Luft was a dyer and had a small dyeing establishment on
the Prut River, near Kolomea. He married Sarah/Ernesta Grunblatthad and
had three sons: an older brother, my g-g-father (>from female line:
Iakov Luft born in 1879 in Kolomea, died in 1953 in Italy), and younger
sister.

LUFT and GRUNBLATT >from Kolomea

Nardo Bonomi
nbonomi@ftbcc.it


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LUFT and GRUNBLATT from Kolomea (Kolomyya) #general

Nardino <nbonomi@...>
 

Dears jewishgenners,
I'm searching on Luft and Grunblatt >from Kolomea (actual Ukraine). I write
because, in the case someone is interested in or connected to this branch
of the Luft and
Grunblatt family, I have some information (and photos) that I would like to
share.
Josef (or Iosiph) Luft was a dyer and had a small dyeing establishment on
the Prut River, near Kolomea. He married Sarah/Ernesta Grunblatthad and
had three sons: an older brother, my g-g-father (>from female line:
Iakov Luft born in 1879 in Kolomea, died in 1953 in Italy), and younger
sister.

LUFT and GRUNBLATT >from Kolomea

Nardo Bonomi
nbonomi@ftbcc.it


Re: Concentration Camp Liberations #general

Peter Haas <phaas@...>
 

Drosner@aol.com wrote:
However, my question is Which camps were liberated in 1943 (or very
early 44)? >I thought the camps didn't get liberated until late 44
and into 45.....
Anyone have a chronological list of camp liberations?
David Rosner

I don't have the answer off the top of my head, but the only territory that
was liberated in *Europe* in 1943 was, I believe, on the eastern front --
and I am not aware of any camps (particularly large camps) that were so far
east in the territory of the Soviet Union (now Belarus Ukraine and other
CIS) that this would have been an issue. A good place to check on this, I
think, would be to compare Martin Gilbert's Holocaust Atlas with another
good WWII military atlas that shows the progress of front lines. I have
had my eye on Gilbert's Atlas, but have not (yet) acquired it. Anyone out
there have it available to check to see what the answer to the question
might be?

Peter Haas


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Concentration Camp Liberations #general

Peter Haas <phaas@...>
 

Drosner@aol.com wrote:
However, my question is Which camps were liberated in 1943 (or very
early 44)? >I thought the camps didn't get liberated until late 44
and into 45.....
Anyone have a chronological list of camp liberations?
David Rosner

I don't have the answer off the top of my head, but the only territory that
was liberated in *Europe* in 1943 was, I believe, on the eastern front --
and I am not aware of any camps (particularly large camps) that were so far
east in the territory of the Soviet Union (now Belarus Ukraine and other
CIS) that this would have been an issue. A good place to check on this, I
think, would be to compare Martin Gilbert's Holocaust Atlas with another
good WWII military atlas that shows the progress of front lines. I have
had my eye on Gilbert's Atlas, but have not (yet) acquired it. Anyone out
there have it available to check to see what the answer to the question
might be?

Peter Haas