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MEMORIES OF MY SHTETL DHZIKEV #general

EDrezner@...
 

Hello
I'm living in Paris France and trying to help people
they and i are looking for a book printed in PARIS in 1978
"memories of my shtetl: Dhzikev? Poland, now Tamobzheg
we don't know in which language it's written or by who
if it tell you something? i've tried and in Paris, it seems
unknown.
thank you
Elsa Drezner
edrezner@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MEMORIES OF MY SHTETL DHZIKEV #general

EDrezner@...
 

Hello
I'm living in Paris France and trying to help people
they and i are looking for a book printed in PARIS in 1978
"memories of my shtetl: Dhzikev? Poland, now Tamobzheg
we don't know in which language it's written or by who
if it tell you something? i've tried and in Paris, it seems
unknown.
thank you
Elsa Drezner
edrezner@...


Attn. Ralph Sobek #general

David Gershon Leventhal <David_Gershon@...>
 

Sorry to post to the group, but would Ralph Sobek please
contact me. None of the three addresses in your footer seem
to work; I keep getting 'service unavailable' messages.

Thanks,

David Gershon Leventhal
David_Gershon@...

Canton, Michigan / Herzliyya, Israel

to be COMPLETELY updated 23 Aug:
http://pw2.netcom.com/~leventhl/geneal.htm

Searching ...

BIERFASS, BYKOW, DROZANSK-, LACH, LAUBERFELD, LISCHNER,
LOWENTHAL, MOND, OBERLANDER, ORLING, ROTHSTEIN, SCHNELL,
TEPPER, PURYC
(in Eastern Europe & Russja: Bircza Area, Drohobycz, Khyrow,
Korzeniec, Leszczawa Dolne, Moskwa, Mrzyglod, Nezankowice,
Nowa Wies, Poltawa, Przemysl, Rybotycze, Sanok, Winnica,
Zohatyn)

GARTNER, GOLDSMID, ROSENTHAL, TOBIAS
(in USA: New York City and surrounding areas)

LOWENTHAL
(in Argentina: Buenos Aires and surrounding areas)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Attn. Ralph Sobek #general

David Gershon Leventhal <David_Gershon@...>
 

Sorry to post to the group, but would Ralph Sobek please
contact me. None of the three addresses in your footer seem
to work; I keep getting 'service unavailable' messages.

Thanks,

David Gershon Leventhal
David_Gershon@...

Canton, Michigan / Herzliyya, Israel

to be COMPLETELY updated 23 Aug:
http://pw2.netcom.com/~leventhl/geneal.htm

Searching ...

BIERFASS, BYKOW, DROZANSK-, LACH, LAUBERFELD, LISCHNER,
LOWENTHAL, MOND, OBERLANDER, ORLING, ROTHSTEIN, SCHNELL,
TEPPER, PURYC
(in Eastern Europe & Russja: Bircza Area, Drohobycz, Khyrow,
Korzeniec, Leszczawa Dolne, Moskwa, Mrzyglod, Nezankowice,
Nowa Wies, Poltawa, Przemysl, Rybotycze, Sanok, Winnica,
Zohatyn)

GARTNER, GOLDSMID, ROSENTHAL, TOBIAS
(in USA: New York City and surrounding areas)

LOWENTHAL
(in Argentina: Buenos Aires and surrounding areas)


Searching KRUSKAL #general

Francine Flamm <mondorf@...>
 

I was given your email address as someone who might be able to help.
Trying to trace my late Dad's family. The name is KRUSKAL. If you know
anything (only family with this name),also, would like, if possibe, an
email address for the Jewish Archives in the U.K. and South Africa, that
is another lead. Thank you kindly for any assistance.

Francine Flamm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KRUSKAL #general

Francine Flamm <mondorf@...>
 

I was given your email address as someone who might be able to help.
Trying to trace my late Dad's family. The name is KRUSKAL. If you know
anything (only family with this name),also, would like, if possibe, an
email address for the Jewish Archives in the U.K. and South Africa, that
is another lead. Thank you kindly for any assistance.

Francine Flamm


Places near Bialystok? #general

Rodney Eisfelder <eisfelderr@...>
 

Last week, we had another look at a translation we had done of a
marriage certificate issued when my wife's gg-gf Henry Black, was
about to leave Poland in 1911.

The original is in Russian (Cyrillic), but the translation reads in
part:
from the Metric Book established for the entries of Marriages of Jews
in City of Belski, Grodnenski District for the year 1899 under No. 1
registered the following entry:
1899, January 11, Citizen of Horoschia, Belostokski District, Nehemia
Leib Wolfovich Schwartz, bachelor 24 years of age, entry into matrimony
in the town of Belski with maiden of Volchina, Haya-Sorou Gershovnia
Sodol, 23 years.
The fact that this extract >from genuine Metrical Book wholly corresponds
with original, I certify with my signature and appropriate seal.
This extract is given to Nehemia Leib Wolfovich Schwartz in accordance
with his request for presenting to places exempt >from paying duty.

Belsk, October 4. 1911
Public Rabbi
City of Belsk and District
S.Shernakovsky (signed)

Now the questions:
We always thought the family came >from Bialystok, but the certificate
states they came >from Horoschia, which I assume is the place now called
Choroszcz, just to the west of Bialystok. Does that seem right?


Is Belski, Grodneski Districk the same as Bielsk Podlaski?

Does anyone have a suggestion for Volchina? I have tried the Shtetl
Finder database, which presented hundreds of Soundex matches, but none
that seemed a close match and in the general vicinity of Bialystok.
My "knowledge" of Cyrillic is neglible, but if it helps, the town name
seems to be spelt:
B-o-lambda-'cursive-r'-u-n-a.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Looking for LAMBERTZ (Rhineland), EISFELDER(anywhere), WITTKOWER(anywhere),
KATSCHINSKI (Silesia or Alsace), PFINGST(anywhere), ADLERSTEIN (Bamberg),
RUDIN (Dubrovna, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Places near Bialystok? #general

Rodney Eisfelder <eisfelderr@...>
 

Last week, we had another look at a translation we had done of a
marriage certificate issued when my wife's gg-gf Henry Black, was
about to leave Poland in 1911.

The original is in Russian (Cyrillic), but the translation reads in
part:
from the Metric Book established for the entries of Marriages of Jews
in City of Belski, Grodnenski District for the year 1899 under No. 1
registered the following entry:
1899, January 11, Citizen of Horoschia, Belostokski District, Nehemia
Leib Wolfovich Schwartz, bachelor 24 years of age, entry into matrimony
in the town of Belski with maiden of Volchina, Haya-Sorou Gershovnia
Sodol, 23 years.
The fact that this extract >from genuine Metrical Book wholly corresponds
with original, I certify with my signature and appropriate seal.
This extract is given to Nehemia Leib Wolfovich Schwartz in accordance
with his request for presenting to places exempt >from paying duty.

Belsk, October 4. 1911
Public Rabbi
City of Belsk and District
S.Shernakovsky (signed)

Now the questions:
We always thought the family came >from Bialystok, but the certificate
states they came >from Horoschia, which I assume is the place now called
Choroszcz, just to the west of Bialystok. Does that seem right?


Is Belski, Grodneski Districk the same as Bielsk Podlaski?

Does anyone have a suggestion for Volchina? I have tried the Shtetl
Finder database, which presented hundreds of Soundex matches, but none
that seemed a close match and in the general vicinity of Bialystok.
My "knowledge" of Cyrillic is neglible, but if it helps, the town name
seems to be spelt:
B-o-lambda-'cursive-r'-u-n-a.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Looking for LAMBERTZ (Rhineland), EISFELDER(anywhere), WITTKOWER(anywhere),
KATSCHINSKI (Silesia or Alsace), PFINGST(anywhere), ADLERSTEIN (Bamberg),
RUDIN (Dubrovna, Belarus)


Searching MANDELSTAM #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Joseph MANDELSTAM was born 7 September 1881 in Russia but lived most of his
life in Australia, going to school in Fremantle, Western Australia. He was
a miner and a prospector and eventually a mine manager. He joined the
British army in 1915 and was quickly in France, engaged in military mining
operations. At the start of 1916 he applied for a commission and this was
granted, to take effect on 12 March 1916. But he was killed in action six
days before that.

Application was made that his promotion to officer rank should be made
posthumously but the War Office refused. His widow, Elsie, living in
London, made many applications, the last as late as 1921, all being
refused.

When he was killed in 1916 she was pregnant. I haven't yet found out about
the birth. But I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the subsequent
history of this family?

Harold Pollins
Oxford England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching MANDELSTAM #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Joseph MANDELSTAM was born 7 September 1881 in Russia but lived most of his
life in Australia, going to school in Fremantle, Western Australia. He was
a miner and a prospector and eventually a mine manager. He joined the
British army in 1915 and was quickly in France, engaged in military mining
operations. At the start of 1916 he applied for a commission and this was
granted, to take effect on 12 March 1916. But he was killed in action six
days before that.

Application was made that his promotion to officer rank should be made
posthumously but the War Office refused. His widow, Elsie, living in
London, made many applications, the last as late as 1921, all being
refused.

When he was killed in 1916 she was pregnant. I haven't yet found out about
the birth. But I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the subsequent
history of this family?

Harold Pollins
Oxford England


lists of Concentration Camps #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

In message LYR4408-6035--Saul@... writes:

Subject: Lists Of Concentrations Camps
From: <EDrezner@...>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 are they lists of names of people deported in concentration camps ?
anyway, is it possible that other camps still have lists ( maidanek, sobibor,>etc...)
According to Peter W. Lande in his recent talk at the LA Seminar fairly
extensive records exist for:
Dachau, Buchenwald, Theresienstadt, Mauthausen and Stutthof. Partial
records for Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Neungamme, Ravensbruck and Gross
Rosen. Fragmentary records for Majdaneek.

There are books ( incomplete for all) with partial lists: Dachau, Bergen
Belsen, Neungamme, Gross Rosen, Gurs, Auschwitz. Belzec, Sobibor and
Treblinka : no name lists but transport lists giving dates of arrival of
trainloads of people >from various locations- almost all of these peopel
perished on arrival or the next day.

Some camp records are on microfilm at the national archives, maryland
USA ( esp. Dachau, Mauthausen and Buchenwald. Others, like Stutthof and
Sachsenhausen are on film at the USHMM archives.

Most of this material is also at Yad Vashem.
An excellent refernce to this is by Gary Mokotoff: How to Document
victims and trace Holocaust Survivors. Avotaynu Inc 1995
--
Dr Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen lists of Concentration Camps #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

In message LYR4408-6035--Saul@... writes:

Subject: Lists Of Concentrations Camps
From: <EDrezner@...>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 are they lists of names of people deported in concentration camps ?
anyway, is it possible that other camps still have lists ( maidanek, sobibor,>etc...)
According to Peter W. Lande in his recent talk at the LA Seminar fairly
extensive records exist for:
Dachau, Buchenwald, Theresienstadt, Mauthausen and Stutthof. Partial
records for Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Neungamme, Ravensbruck and Gross
Rosen. Fragmentary records for Majdaneek.

There are books ( incomplete for all) with partial lists: Dachau, Bergen
Belsen, Neungamme, Gross Rosen, Gurs, Auschwitz. Belzec, Sobibor and
Treblinka : no name lists but transport lists giving dates of arrival of
trainloads of people >from various locations- almost all of these peopel
perished on arrival or the next day.

Some camp records are on microfilm at the national archives, maryland
USA ( esp. Dachau, Mauthausen and Buchenwald. Others, like Stutthof and
Sachsenhausen are on film at the USHMM archives.

Most of this material is also at Yad Vashem.
An excellent refernce to this is by Gary Mokotoff: How to Document
victims and trace Holocaust Survivors. Avotaynu Inc 1995
--
Dr Saul Issroff


GROSZ/MANDOK #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

Hello Gyorgy. I'm trying to find out informations about Grosz from
M=E0ndok. My father was Jozsef Grosz (1910-1989) and his mother F=E0ni Kl=
ein
(dead in Auschwitz in June 15th,1944 as stated by a certificate I got
from M=E0ndok); my grandfather was J=E8no Grosz and died in the twenties.=
My
father had several brothers and one sister Rozsa (married name
Weisz;1914-1944 June 15th Auschwitz). I went to M=E0ndok in 1980, but no
Jewishes seemed to be still living there. On the other hand in 1997 I
bought in Budapest one book published in 1946, in which some 10.000
names of persons perished in camps are indicated together with their
town: people >from M=E0ndok are about 15, with several names (no Grosz). I=
t
seems therefore that a small jewish community was there till 1944,
comparing 10.000/15 to the massive number of Hungarian jewishes perished
in the holocaust. Unfortunately I don't speak Hungarian and therefore I
can't catch further informations >from that book.
I read in H-SIG your installments about the cities, but no mention of
M=E0ndok.

1) I'm looking after relatives still alive
2) I'm searching informations about Grosz and the M=E0ndok community =

2) I heard about a book written in Hungarian, talking about
jewish immigration in the 19=B0 century >from Germany to the
Ny=ECregy=E0za area.

Thanks for your pretious cooperation and to the EEJH organizers for the
incredible quantity of interesting news I daily catch.
Shalom, ciao. Steven (Stefano Grosz-Milano).


Hungary SIG #Hungary GROSZ/MANDOK #hungary

Stefano Groszy <steven@...>
 

Hello Gyorgy. I'm trying to find out informations about Grosz from
M=E0ndok. My father was Jozsef Grosz (1910-1989) and his mother F=E0ni Kl=
ein
(dead in Auschwitz in June 15th,1944 as stated by a certificate I got
from M=E0ndok); my grandfather was J=E8no Grosz and died in the twenties.=
My
father had several brothers and one sister Rozsa (married name
Weisz;1914-1944 June 15th Auschwitz). I went to M=E0ndok in 1980, but no
Jewishes seemed to be still living there. On the other hand in 1997 I
bought in Budapest one book published in 1946, in which some 10.000
names of persons perished in camps are indicated together with their
town: people >from M=E0ndok are about 15, with several names (no Grosz). I=
t
seems therefore that a small jewish community was there till 1944,
comparing 10.000/15 to the massive number of Hungarian jewishes perished
in the holocaust. Unfortunately I don't speak Hungarian and therefore I
can't catch further informations >from that book.
I read in H-SIG your installments about the cities, but no mention of
M=E0ndok.

1) I'm looking after relatives still alive
2) I'm searching informations about Grosz and the M=E0ndok community =

2) I heard about a book written in Hungarian, talking about
jewish immigration in the 19=B0 century >from Germany to the
Ny=ECregy=E0za area.

Thanks for your pretious cooperation and to the EEJH organizers for the
incredible quantity of interesting news I daily catch.
Shalom, ciao. Steven (Stefano Grosz-Milano).


Lotteries in Russian Empire? #general

Jay Paul <jpaul@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners,
I am faced with a bit of a puzzle. The descendents of two of my paternal
grandfather's brothers have described the family as having won some sort of
a lottery. This branch of my family came >from the Kiev region, although
their last residence in Russia was Ekaterinoslav. One great-uncle's
daughter (my first cousin once-removed) said that her father was able to
afford the voyage to the U.S. because he won a lottery. He then worked to
afford to send money back to pay for his mother and his brother to voyage
to America. Another great-uncle's descendents also said that the
great-uncle won some sort of lottery and was able to live in some sort of
comfort in Russia.
My question is: Were there any sort of regular lotteries in Russian
society, and (if so) what were they likely to offer in terms of winnings?
I would love to separate out tall tales >from family history here.
Thanks,
Jay Paul (JPaul@...)
San Francisco, CA, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lotteries in Russian Empire? #general

Jay Paul <jpaul@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners,
I am faced with a bit of a puzzle. The descendents of two of my paternal
grandfather's brothers have described the family as having won some sort of
a lottery. This branch of my family came >from the Kiev region, although
their last residence in Russia was Ekaterinoslav. One great-uncle's
daughter (my first cousin once-removed) said that her father was able to
afford the voyage to the U.S. because he won a lottery. He then worked to
afford to send money back to pay for his mother and his brother to voyage
to America. Another great-uncle's descendents also said that the
great-uncle won some sort of lottery and was able to live in some sort of
comfort in Russia.
My question is: Were there any sort of regular lotteries in Russian
society, and (if so) what were they likely to offer in terms of winnings?
I would love to separate out tall tales >from family history here.
Thanks,
Jay Paul (JPaul@...)
San Francisco, CA, USA


Slutsk, Minsk gubernia - revision list of 1816-1818 (part I) #belarus

Vcharny@...
 

Below is surname list I compiled and transliterated >from Russian.
The source is revision list of 1816 (second part -- additional revision
of 1818 - I hope to compile soon). It is available on LDS microfilm
#2010468. After more close work with records some corrections
could be made.

Differ >from many other towns Jewish records of that time I read,
Slutsk show greatest diversity of surnames. Just small part is repeated.
It means high probability in determination of ancestor family just by surname.

Adrov, Aiker?, Aizenberg, Aizentson, Altanin?, Altman
Altshul, Apel'tsyn, Arpush, Atkenaz, Azyor?, Badkhan
Bagamol, Baikov, Barakon, Bariks?, Barshay?, Basin
Baslavsky, Beiles, Beinvol, Belov?, Bely, Ber..nin
Bereznik, Berman, Bezruchin, Birger, Blank, Blokh
Bludny, Blyand, Bobekein, Bogushev, Bol'shtein, Bomeil'
Bomshtein, Bondarov, Bord, Boretsky, Borisovsky, Braver
Bresky, Broda, Brodsky, Bronshtein, Brosd?, Bulkov?
Bunimov, Bunin, Byaly, Chapran, Charny, Chinkov
Chipchin, Dalginov, Dalkov?, Del'bukh, Derechin, Dervin
Diment, Dobromisli, Dolgov, Dubel'tin, Dubovsky, Dubrov
Dubrovets, Dultsis, Dushkov, Ebin, Efronov, Efrost
Eigenburg, Elingmos?, Elkonovich, El'lin, Emanuel', Enishbliz?
Epshtein, Eraev, Fainshtein, Faivusyev, Farber, Fialkov
Finkel', Finkel'shtein, Fisher, Freinkel', Fridlyand, Ful'makht
Gabar?, Galkin, Galnes, Gal'pern, Garmiza, Gedansky
Gefter, Geiman, Gel'barg, Gel'but, Gel'fand, Genda?
German, Gikhan, Gildener, Gil'zer, Gintsberg, Ginzberg
Girshin, Girshov, Gisin, Giter, Gites, Gleiter
Gleter, Glozman, Glum, Gokhdarf, Gokhmark, Gol'berg
Goldbam, Goldberg, Goldgand?, Goler, Golub, Gopin
Gor, Gorodets, Gorokhov, Graes?, Granat, Granov
Grebenechnik, Grinberg, Grinshtein, Grobshtein, Gubar', Gurovits
Guspin, Gutenmakher, Guttsait, Imerman, Indik, Ispanin
Ivansky, Ivan'sky, Izin, Kagna, Kantina, Kantorovich
Kapelyahih, Kaplan, Karman, Karmin, Kasber, Katsenel'son
Khagiz, Kharat, Kharik, Kharosh, Khaskin, Kheifets
Khibnin, Khmarny, Khorosh, Kibalkin, Kinor, Klavich
Klavner, Kleshchik, Klotsvach, Knigos?, Knigov, Kopcher?
Kopulensky, Kosovsky, Kotner, Kototvich, Kovin, Kozanin
Kozlin, Kozlirapik?, Krachak, Krachan, Kraft, Krainy
Krakov, Kramen, Kramin, Kraskov, Krasnov, Kreines
Kretskov, Krivodel, Krupnik, Kugel', Kuicher, Kunaev
Kurkov, Kurlyand, Kushka, Kusmin, Landa, Lansky
Lapidus, Latsenberg, Leshkovich, Levikalov, Levitan, Liberman
Libes, Lifshits, Likhter, Liles, Lilin, Lipmanov
Lipshin, Livov, Lotnik, Lubinshtein, Lubshtein, Lulin
Lunachkin?, Lyubov', Lyuder, Makran, Malatok, Malkovich
Marder, Margish, Margolis, Markevich, Mashkovich, Maslensky
Maslyansky, Matusov, Menaker, Mendelev, Menlakh, Migdalov
Milchin, Milin, Milov, Mlodik, Mnushchin, Mnushin
Model'zon, Mogil'nik, Molchan, Mones, Moravchik, Morfel'
Murovits, Mushin, Muslin, Myshlov, Nagin, Naimark
Naishtein, Nankin, Naskelter, Neikrus, Neiman, Neimburg
Nekrich, Neprich, Nikel'burg, Nirenburg, Nisbom, Nizovsky
Nodel'fel, Nodembukh, Novik, Nusbom, Ogorodnik, Ogul
Oravkin, Osovsky, Ostrovsky, Padersky, Palchik, Parich
Pekal', Perepletchik, Perkil', Perlin, Pernin, Pesotsky
Petrushka, Petrushkin, Petsonka, Pik, Piltsman, Pincha
Pinda, Pines, Pirakhovsky, Podroisky, Polyak, Pomeranch
Postav, Pragel', Proekt, Prostak, Pulin, Radushkov
Rakov, Rapoport, Rashker, Ratner, Ratrogovich?, Ratsven
Ravnes?, Razrat, Reinshtein, Reinzon, Revel's, Ribakov
Riglyan?, Riklin, Rodny, Rogovy, Rondes, Rozenbum
Rozenshain, Rozhevsky, Rozmarin, Rubinshtein, Rubinsky, Ryaby
Safir, Safron, Saginur, Samson, Seglin, Shain
Shapira, Sharapansky, Sheftel', Sheiba, Sheimov, Sheinberg
Sheinkel', Sheinman, Shenderov, Shildkrot, Shiling, Shindel'
Shindel'man, Shintser, Shishel'?, Shlemkin, Shmergel', Sholkov
Shol'ts, Shor, Shostak, Shranberg, Shternshus, Shutkin
Shvarts, Shvedok, Shvedsky?, Shvider, Shyein, Simpler
Sinagubka, Sirop, Sirotovich, Skipal'sky, Slivki, Sol'nik
Solop, Sopovich, Starishok, Stepukov, Strugach, Surgan
Teinberg, Telushka, Temchin, Teplin, Tishler?, Tivin
Tombak, Tomushov, Topelov, Travin, Trifon, Troichansky
Tsarovtsa, Tsenter, Tsirkel', Tsurkov, Tsviron, Tsymering
Tsyrkel', Tsytrin, Tsytver, Tulchin, Turchiner, Turov
Tverdy, Tyshler, Uzdin, Vaisman, Vengrov, Vibis
Vildaver, Vil'davsky, Vishchin, Vishnin, Vishtok, Volershtein
Volkovisky, Vygodsky, Yabel'nik, Yabrov, Yaglin, Yagoda
Yampol, Yamshchik, Yarkha, Yezvin, Yudenkop, Yuriskov
Zadubey, Zagur?, Zaides?, Zakin, Zalkin, Zaltsman
Zeldes, Zeliger, Zhilikhov, Zhitin, Zhultich, Zusmanov

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL


Belarus SIG #Belarus Slutsk, Minsk gubernia - revision list of 1816-1818 (part I) #belarus

Vcharny@...
 

Below is surname list I compiled and transliterated >from Russian.
The source is revision list of 1816 (second part -- additional revision
of 1818 - I hope to compile soon). It is available on LDS microfilm
#2010468. After more close work with records some corrections
could be made.

Differ >from many other towns Jewish records of that time I read,
Slutsk show greatest diversity of surnames. Just small part is repeated.
It means high probability in determination of ancestor family just by surname.

Adrov, Aiker?, Aizenberg, Aizentson, Altanin?, Altman
Altshul, Apel'tsyn, Arpush, Atkenaz, Azyor?, Badkhan
Bagamol, Baikov, Barakon, Bariks?, Barshay?, Basin
Baslavsky, Beiles, Beinvol, Belov?, Bely, Ber..nin
Bereznik, Berman, Bezruchin, Birger, Blank, Blokh
Bludny, Blyand, Bobekein, Bogushev, Bol'shtein, Bomeil'
Bomshtein, Bondarov, Bord, Boretsky, Borisovsky, Braver
Bresky, Broda, Brodsky, Bronshtein, Brosd?, Bulkov?
Bunimov, Bunin, Byaly, Chapran, Charny, Chinkov
Chipchin, Dalginov, Dalkov?, Del'bukh, Derechin, Dervin
Diment, Dobromisli, Dolgov, Dubel'tin, Dubovsky, Dubrov
Dubrovets, Dultsis, Dushkov, Ebin, Efronov, Efrost
Eigenburg, Elingmos?, Elkonovich, El'lin, Emanuel', Enishbliz?
Epshtein, Eraev, Fainshtein, Faivusyev, Farber, Fialkov
Finkel', Finkel'shtein, Fisher, Freinkel', Fridlyand, Ful'makht
Gabar?, Galkin, Galnes, Gal'pern, Garmiza, Gedansky
Gefter, Geiman, Gel'barg, Gel'but, Gel'fand, Genda?
German, Gikhan, Gildener, Gil'zer, Gintsberg, Ginzberg
Girshin, Girshov, Gisin, Giter, Gites, Gleiter
Gleter, Glozman, Glum, Gokhdarf, Gokhmark, Gol'berg
Goldbam, Goldberg, Goldgand?, Goler, Golub, Gopin
Gor, Gorodets, Gorokhov, Graes?, Granat, Granov
Grebenechnik, Grinberg, Grinshtein, Grobshtein, Gubar', Gurovits
Guspin, Gutenmakher, Guttsait, Imerman, Indik, Ispanin
Ivansky, Ivan'sky, Izin, Kagna, Kantina, Kantorovich
Kapelyahih, Kaplan, Karman, Karmin, Kasber, Katsenel'son
Khagiz, Kharat, Kharik, Kharosh, Khaskin, Kheifets
Khibnin, Khmarny, Khorosh, Kibalkin, Kinor, Klavich
Klavner, Kleshchik, Klotsvach, Knigos?, Knigov, Kopcher?
Kopulensky, Kosovsky, Kotner, Kototvich, Kovin, Kozanin
Kozlin, Kozlirapik?, Krachak, Krachan, Kraft, Krainy
Krakov, Kramen, Kramin, Kraskov, Krasnov, Kreines
Kretskov, Krivodel, Krupnik, Kugel', Kuicher, Kunaev
Kurkov, Kurlyand, Kushka, Kusmin, Landa, Lansky
Lapidus, Latsenberg, Leshkovich, Levikalov, Levitan, Liberman
Libes, Lifshits, Likhter, Liles, Lilin, Lipmanov
Lipshin, Livov, Lotnik, Lubinshtein, Lubshtein, Lulin
Lunachkin?, Lyubov', Lyuder, Makran, Malatok, Malkovich
Marder, Margish, Margolis, Markevich, Mashkovich, Maslensky
Maslyansky, Matusov, Menaker, Mendelev, Menlakh, Migdalov
Milchin, Milin, Milov, Mlodik, Mnushchin, Mnushin
Model'zon, Mogil'nik, Molchan, Mones, Moravchik, Morfel'
Murovits, Mushin, Muslin, Myshlov, Nagin, Naimark
Naishtein, Nankin, Naskelter, Neikrus, Neiman, Neimburg
Nekrich, Neprich, Nikel'burg, Nirenburg, Nisbom, Nizovsky
Nodel'fel, Nodembukh, Novik, Nusbom, Ogorodnik, Ogul
Oravkin, Osovsky, Ostrovsky, Padersky, Palchik, Parich
Pekal', Perepletchik, Perkil', Perlin, Pernin, Pesotsky
Petrushka, Petrushkin, Petsonka, Pik, Piltsman, Pincha
Pinda, Pines, Pirakhovsky, Podroisky, Polyak, Pomeranch
Postav, Pragel', Proekt, Prostak, Pulin, Radushkov
Rakov, Rapoport, Rashker, Ratner, Ratrogovich?, Ratsven
Ravnes?, Razrat, Reinshtein, Reinzon, Revel's, Ribakov
Riglyan?, Riklin, Rodny, Rogovy, Rondes, Rozenbum
Rozenshain, Rozhevsky, Rozmarin, Rubinshtein, Rubinsky, Ryaby
Safir, Safron, Saginur, Samson, Seglin, Shain
Shapira, Sharapansky, Sheftel', Sheiba, Sheimov, Sheinberg
Sheinkel', Sheinman, Shenderov, Shildkrot, Shiling, Shindel'
Shindel'man, Shintser, Shishel'?, Shlemkin, Shmergel', Sholkov
Shol'ts, Shor, Shostak, Shranberg, Shternshus, Shutkin
Shvarts, Shvedok, Shvedsky?, Shvider, Shyein, Simpler
Sinagubka, Sirop, Sirotovich, Skipal'sky, Slivki, Sol'nik
Solop, Sopovich, Starishok, Stepukov, Strugach, Surgan
Teinberg, Telushka, Temchin, Teplin, Tishler?, Tivin
Tombak, Tomushov, Topelov, Travin, Trifon, Troichansky
Tsarovtsa, Tsenter, Tsirkel', Tsurkov, Tsviron, Tsymering
Tsyrkel', Tsytrin, Tsytver, Tulchin, Turchiner, Turov
Tverdy, Tyshler, Uzdin, Vaisman, Vengrov, Vibis
Vildaver, Vil'davsky, Vishchin, Vishnin, Vishtok, Volershtein
Volkovisky, Vygodsky, Yabel'nik, Yabrov, Yaglin, Yagoda
Yampol, Yamshchik, Yarkha, Yezvin, Yudenkop, Yuriskov
Zadubey, Zagur?, Zaides?, Zakin, Zalkin, Zaltsman
Zeldes, Zeliger, Zhilikhov, Zhitin, Zhultich, Zusmanov

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL


Re: Litvak and Galitzianer #general

Alexander Sharon <sharona@...>
 

sucov@... wrote:

(,,,)
First, the Litvak area is in the region formerly controlled by the Kingdom
Of Lithuania, much larger than it's present size. So, people whose parents
were in what might today be called Poland or Belarus were under the
influence of the old Lithuania.
On subject of Litvaks and their territorial-language influences, exists an
excellent publication by dr. Saul Issroff, the authority on this subject. Dr.
Issroff's publication is located on JewishGen website.

The area called Galicia is further south
and encompasses today's Austria, Hungary, Romania, etc.
I am affraid that a bit too much territory was "given" to Galicia. Even during
the Poland's partitions at the end of 18th century, Kigdom of Galicia didnt
encompass such large territory, and never included lands of todays Austria,
Hungary and Romania. Galicia is subdivided into western and eastern parts,
divided by river Bug is bordering on the south by Carpathian mountains. All
territory of Galicia has been historically part of Poland, today western part of
Galicia is within the Polish south east part, and eastern part belongs to
Ukraine.

(...)

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Litvak and Galitzianer #general

Alexander Sharon <sharona@...>
 

sucov@... wrote:

(,,,)
First, the Litvak area is in the region formerly controlled by the Kingdom
Of Lithuania, much larger than it's present size. So, people whose parents
were in what might today be called Poland or Belarus were under the
influence of the old Lithuania.
On subject of Litvaks and their territorial-language influences, exists an
excellent publication by dr. Saul Issroff, the authority on this subject. Dr.
Issroff's publication is located on JewishGen website.

The area called Galicia is further south
and encompasses today's Austria, Hungary, Romania, etc.
I am affraid that a bit too much territory was "given" to Galicia. Even during
the Poland's partitions at the end of 18th century, Kigdom of Galicia didnt
encompass such large territory, and never included lands of todays Austria,
Hungary and Romania. Galicia is subdivided into western and eastern parts,
divided by river Bug is bordering on the south by Carpathian mountains. All
territory of Galicia has been historically part of Poland, today western part of
Galicia is within the Polish south east part, and eastern part belongs to
Ukraine.

(...)

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta