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attn: Anita AVEN #general

Linda Saegert <lsaegert@...>
 

A woman named Anita Aven >from Sweden sent me some GOLDENSOHN history
and when I tried to reply to her, her email bounced back. Does anyone
know her? She gives her address as aaven@...

Thank you
Linda Saegert New York lsaegert@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen attn: Anita AVEN #general

Linda Saegert <lsaegert@...>
 

A woman named Anita Aven >from Sweden sent me some GOLDENSOHN history
and when I tried to reply to her, her email bounced back. Does anyone
know her? She gives her address as aaven@...

Thank you
Linda Saegert New York lsaegert@...


Searching: EINHORN #general

Russell-Einhorn, Michele (OD) <EinhornM@...>
 

I am looking for information on my grandfather, Morris Pinkus
EINHORN. His death certificate states that his father was Simon
Einhorn and his mother was Sara Einhorn. We believe he came >from
Poland.

Morris Pinkus Einhorn was born in 1890. Morris Pinkus Einhorn came
to this country sometime after World War I. We believe he came
through Canada, went to Wisconsin and then journeyed to St. Louis
where he married my grandmother. They ultimately moved to New
Haven, Conn with their 6 children.

Morris had a brother who went to England and changed his last
name to :"Shaw." Morris had a sister who went to New Jersey and
married a pharmacist by the last name of "Dell."

Please contact me if you have any information that could help me.
Thank you.
Michele Russell-Einhorn
Bethesda Md.
kahluamr@...

MODERATOR NOTE: It always helps if you tell us
what specifically are you looking to find out.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: EINHORN #general

Russell-Einhorn, Michele (OD) <EinhornM@...>
 

I am looking for information on my grandfather, Morris Pinkus
EINHORN. His death certificate states that his father was Simon
Einhorn and his mother was Sara Einhorn. We believe he came >from
Poland.

Morris Pinkus Einhorn was born in 1890. Morris Pinkus Einhorn came
to this country sometime after World War I. We believe he came
through Canada, went to Wisconsin and then journeyed to St. Louis
where he married my grandmother. They ultimately moved to New
Haven, Conn with their 6 children.

Morris had a brother who went to England and changed his last
name to :"Shaw." Morris had a sister who went to New Jersey and
married a pharmacist by the last name of "Dell."

Please contact me if you have any information that could help me.
Thank you.
Michele Russell-Einhorn
Bethesda Md.
kahluamr@...

MODERATOR NOTE: It always helps if you tell us
what specifically are you looking to find out.


Searching STERN, GRUNWALD, BAUER #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Thanx to Eleanor Bien, I can finally say with certainty that I am
searching for BAUER >from Kunszentmiklos (three sisters and a
brothe ror two of my ggm, born 125 years ago, fate unknown), STERN
from Kalocsa (anything) and probably GRUNWALD >from Kalocsa
(anything).

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching STERN, GRUNWALD, BAUER #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Thanx to Eleanor Bien, I can finally say with certainty that I am
searching for BAUER >from Kunszentmiklos (three sisters and a
brothe ror two of my ggm, born 125 years ago, fate unknown), STERN
from Kalocsa (anything) and probably GRUNWALD >from Kalocsa
(anything).

Israel Pickholtz


World Jewry, and Latin America in particular #latinamerica

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

An interesting Web Page on World Jewry, with information about the Jewish
communities of every country:
http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/index.htm

The statistics on: http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/chartmap.htm
are also interesting.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@...


Latin America #LatinAmerica World Jewry, and Latin America in particular #latinamerica

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

An interesting Web Page on World Jewry, with information about the Jewish
communities of every country:
http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/index.htm

The statistics on: http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/chartmap.htm
are also interesting.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@...


The Journey to Vaja #hungary

Michael <tex@...>
 

Alex Miller commented on The Journey to Vaja by and Elaine Naves and When
the World was Whole Charles Fenyvesi.

"Elaine had missed people that Charles had on his version of the family tree."

When Elaine spoke at a meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society in Toronto
she told us that her cousin Charles had written a book about the same family
but had included all of the legends more of less as truth.

She was advised by a Hungarian rabbi that family legends are not to be trusted.


Michael Kelemen


Hungary SIG #Hungary The Journey to Vaja #hungary

Michael <tex@...>
 

Alex Miller commented on The Journey to Vaja by and Elaine Naves and When
the World was Whole Charles Fenyvesi.

"Elaine had missed people that Charles had on his version of the family tree."

When Elaine spoke at a meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society in Toronto
she told us that her cousin Charles had written a book about the same family
but had included all of the legends more of less as truth.

She was advised by a Hungarian rabbi that family legends are not to be trusted.


Michael Kelemen


Re: 1919 Pogram Victim List? #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@...>

Milton Blackstone wrote:


Having recently seen several references to the 1919 Pograms, led me to
wonder if any listings of victims exist, as well as other information
i.e. locations, dates, etc. I have been trying learn if my GF, whose
tombstone cites his death as 9 March 1919, might have been as a result
of a pogram.
I'd also be grateful for any literary references I might peruse if > > such information exists.
Milton Blackstone
milton@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1919 Pogram Victim List? #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@...>

Milton Blackstone wrote:


Having recently seen several references to the 1919 Pograms, led me to
wonder if any listings of victims exist, as well as other information
i.e. locations, dates, etc. I have been trying learn if my GF, whose
tombstone cites his death as 9 March 1919, might have been as a result
of a pogram.
I'd also be grateful for any literary references I might peruse if > > such information exists.
Milton Blackstone
milton@...


Searching: Bidlovsky family Stopnica , Poland #general

Ofeldman <ofeldman@...>
 

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Bidlovsky family Stopnica , Poland #general

Ofeldman <ofeldman@...>
 

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman


Re: Hebrew lettering #general

MMS <mms@...>
 

ari@... wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh
I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.
Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew lettering #general

MMS <mms@...>
 

ari@... wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh
I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.
Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


Re: SPIRO #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@... writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SPIRO #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@... writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam


Confused by Revision list postings [1] #lithuania

Mort & Esther Cohen <cohen@...>
 

On (10 Aug 98) this message and reply were posted:



Subject: Re: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: <DBH12345@...>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:20:49 EDT
X-Message-Number: 7

In a message dated 8/10/98 12:22:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
szome@... writes:

<< Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
These are listed in Mr. Rhode's book on Lithuanian archive holdings. I
would like to research the pages for Podzelva, Vilkomir District. I
look forward to the 1858 Vilkomir District Revision List going online,
but the lists for the 1870's would be more useful for my genealogical
purposes.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
>>

Dear Steve,
We don't have the 1874 or 1879 Vilkomir Revision Lists, but the
Vilkomir Uyezd Research group of the LitvakSIG has acquired the
1858 Revision List. For those of you who are not yet a part of our
Vilkomir District research group, I am using this as an opportunity
to restate what these lists include, and ask for further support.

<snip>

The Vilkomir Revision Lists separately list merchants, inhabitants
and craftsmen, and provide a lot of information about what happened
to each person since the last revision List in 1850 and for a
seventeen year period until the next revision list (1876).

Here is where I get confused :-)
How does an 1858 revision list provide data for a 17 year period -
till 1876. Was the 1858 Revision list actually closed in 1876,
making it an 1876 revision of the 1858 list?

Add to my confusion was this Aug 11 post:

Subject: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:00:53 +0000
X-Message-Number: 4

On 8/10/98 Steven Weiss <szome@...> wrote:

Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
<snip>
And and Ada Greenblatt commented:

In a letter dated 1 August 1995 >from the Lithuanian State Historic
Archives, chief archivist Galina Baranova wrote:
"The archives keeps some Revision lists of the residents of Jewish
communities of the Vilkomir district for the 19th century.
Revision lists for the year 1858 are more complete."
And again on 21 August 1995, Galina wrote:
"I have looked through all revision lists of residents of Seta,
including 1858-1859, 1874, 1878-1880, 1893-1894. I have looked
through all Jewish communities of the Vilkomir district for the
year 1858. These revision lists are more complete. Another
revision lists are additional revision lists."
Thus the decision of the SIG's Vilkomir Uyezd Research group to
concentrate their resources on the 1858 Vilkomir district list was
a wise one because it is the most complete, as opposed to the
additional revision lists of later years.
<snip>

Without arguing the SIGs decision to focus on the 1858 list (which
I gather was actually closed in 1876); (1) what are the
corresponding information dates included in the later Revision
lists?, (2) What is the fee for individual requests to the archives
for searches of these later less complete lists? and (3)Is data so
sparse in the later lists as to make success unlikely?

Forgive me if everyone else already understands this.

Mort Cohen, Rochester NY USA
(cohen@...)


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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Confused by Revision list postings [1] #lithuania

Mort & Esther Cohen <cohen@...>
 

On (10 Aug 98) this message and reply were posted:



Subject: Re: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: <DBH12345@...>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:20:49 EDT
X-Message-Number: 7

In a message dated 8/10/98 12:22:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
szome@... writes:

<< Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
These are listed in Mr. Rhode's book on Lithuanian archive holdings. I
would like to research the pages for Podzelva, Vilkomir District. I
look forward to the 1858 Vilkomir District Revision List going online,
but the lists for the 1870's would be more useful for my genealogical
purposes.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
>>

Dear Steve,
We don't have the 1874 or 1879 Vilkomir Revision Lists, but the
Vilkomir Uyezd Research group of the LitvakSIG has acquired the
1858 Revision List. For those of you who are not yet a part of our
Vilkomir District research group, I am using this as an opportunity
to restate what these lists include, and ask for further support.

<snip>

The Vilkomir Revision Lists separately list merchants, inhabitants
and craftsmen, and provide a lot of information about what happened
to each person since the last revision List in 1850 and for a
seventeen year period until the next revision list (1876).

Here is where I get confused :-)
How does an 1858 revision list provide data for a 17 year period -
till 1876. Was the 1858 Revision list actually closed in 1876,
making it an 1876 revision of the 1858 list?

Add to my confusion was this Aug 11 post:

Subject: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:00:53 +0000
X-Message-Number: 4

On 8/10/98 Steven Weiss <szome@...> wrote:

Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
<snip>
And and Ada Greenblatt commented:

In a letter dated 1 August 1995 >from the Lithuanian State Historic
Archives, chief archivist Galina Baranova wrote:
"The archives keeps some Revision lists of the residents of Jewish
communities of the Vilkomir district for the 19th century.
Revision lists for the year 1858 are more complete."
And again on 21 August 1995, Galina wrote:
"I have looked through all revision lists of residents of Seta,
including 1858-1859, 1874, 1878-1880, 1893-1894. I have looked
through all Jewish communities of the Vilkomir district for the
year 1858. These revision lists are more complete. Another
revision lists are additional revision lists."
Thus the decision of the SIG's Vilkomir Uyezd Research group to
concentrate their resources on the 1858 Vilkomir district list was
a wise one because it is the most complete, as opposed to the
additional revision lists of later years.
<snip>

Without arguing the SIGs decision to focus on the 1858 list (which
I gather was actually closed in 1876); (1) what are the
corresponding information dates included in the later Revision
lists?, (2) What is the fee for individual requests to the archives
for searches of these later less complete lists? and (3)Is data so
sparse in the later lists as to make success unlikely?

Forgive me if everyone else already understands this.

Mort Cohen, Rochester NY USA
(cohen@...)


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