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Re: Resources for maps - atlases #lithuania

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Marcia Silberfarb wrote:
I would appreciate titles of
books/atlases to show counties, districts, towns, villages, shetls, along with
other geographical features and also location of transportation routes, major
structures, etc.
Dear Marcia and other LitvakSIGgers:

I highly recommend Martin Gilbert's Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of
the Holocaust. Your local public library also may have some detailed
atlases of Eastern Europe. While you're there, check to see if they have
Internet access. You can then find contemporary maps through such sites as
Mapquest that allow you to zero in on a specific area as well as historic
maps at sites such as the University of Texas-Austin's Library. Of course,
you would also want to check Lithuanian Jewish Communities, which has a
series of locator maps in the back.

Marion H. Bernstein


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Resources for maps - atlases #lithuania

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Marcia Silberfarb wrote:
I would appreciate titles of
books/atlases to show counties, districts, towns, villages, shetls, along with
other geographical features and also location of transportation routes, major
structures, etc.
Dear Marcia and other LitvakSIGgers:

I highly recommend Martin Gilbert's Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of
the Holocaust. Your local public library also may have some detailed
atlases of Eastern Europe. While you're there, check to see if they have
Internet access. You can then find contemporary maps through such sites as
Mapquest that allow you to zero in on a specific area as well as historic
maps at sites such as the University of Texas-Austin's Library. Of course,
you would also want to check Lithuanian Jewish Communities, which has a
series of locator maps in the back.

Marion H. Bernstein


Re: Help with Krakow Birth record #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

Schamroth <scham@...> wrote in article
<LYR6197-5891--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@...>...
On a Krakow Birth record, the address of the place of birth reads:

27/8 dzidnica VIII

Can anyone tell me what this means. It doesn't look like a street address
to me.

Julian Schamroth
Dzidnica (in my opinion this should read: dzielnica) defines town's
administrative region (city's block). Very similar divisional arrangement
exists for example in Paris, France: eg. Paris XII or Paris XXI.

In your case, "27/8" describes probably house No.27, appartment 8 in city
block # 8. (this is obviosly pure speculation since "27/8" might be just a
calendar date).
Some more information >from Krakow birth certificate is needed in order to
resolve the mystery of the "address"


Alexander Sharon
sharona@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help with Krakow Birth record #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

Schamroth <scham@...> wrote in article
<LYR6197-5891--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@...>...
On a Krakow Birth record, the address of the place of birth reads:

27/8 dzidnica VIII

Can anyone tell me what this means. It doesn't look like a street address
to me.

Julian Schamroth
Dzidnica (in my opinion this should read: dzielnica) defines town's
administrative region (city's block). Very similar divisional arrangement
exists for example in Paris, France: eg. Paris XII or Paris XXI.

In your case, "27/8" describes probably house No.27, appartment 8 in city
block # 8. (this is obviosly pure speculation since "27/8" might be just a
calendar date).
Some more information >from Krakow birth certificate is needed in order to
resolve the mystery of the "address"


Alexander Sharon
sharona@...


Re: Castle Garden/Ellis Island #general

Stew Driller <sdriller@...>
 

Castle Garden (now Castle Clinton National Monument) was used as the
immigrant landing station >from 1855 until 1890. In 1896 it was reopened as
the NY Aquarium and remained so until 1941.

Ellis Island opened in 1892, burned down in 1897, and was rebuilt and
reopened in its present form in 1900. In the interim periods (1890-1892 and
1897-1900) the Barge Office in lower Manhattan was used as the immigration
station.

I'm relatively new to genealogy, but as I understand it, there really aren't
any Ellis Island records (unless possibly someone was retained there). On a
recent trip I was told that the only way to know if someone came through
Ellis Island is that they arrived in steerage during the dates it was in
operation -- someone please correct me if this is wrong! I believe the
Ellis Island Trust (I'm not sure of the name) is currently compiling a
computerised list of people who arrived at Ellis Island -- it's a $13
million project according to their fund-raising letters.

You have to be careful about what people tell you regarding their arrival.
My mother came to NY in 1920, second class on a French Line ship. She
always said she and my grandmother were met by my grandfather at 'Kessel
Garden'. I recently broke the news to her that in 1920 Castle Garden was
the Aquarium and she probably landed at the French Line pier on the Hudson
River.

Stew Driller
sdriller@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Castle Garden/Ellis Island #general

Stew Driller <sdriller@...>
 

Castle Garden (now Castle Clinton National Monument) was used as the
immigrant landing station >from 1855 until 1890. In 1896 it was reopened as
the NY Aquarium and remained so until 1941.

Ellis Island opened in 1892, burned down in 1897, and was rebuilt and
reopened in its present form in 1900. In the interim periods (1890-1892 and
1897-1900) the Barge Office in lower Manhattan was used as the immigration
station.

I'm relatively new to genealogy, but as I understand it, there really aren't
any Ellis Island records (unless possibly someone was retained there). On a
recent trip I was told that the only way to know if someone came through
Ellis Island is that they arrived in steerage during the dates it was in
operation -- someone please correct me if this is wrong! I believe the
Ellis Island Trust (I'm not sure of the name) is currently compiling a
computerised list of people who arrived at Ellis Island -- it's a $13
million project according to their fund-raising letters.

You have to be careful about what people tell you regarding their arrival.
My mother came to NY in 1920, second class on a French Line ship. She
always said she and my grandmother were met by my grandfather at 'Kessel
Garden'. I recently broke the news to her that in 1920 Castle Garden was
the Aquarium and she probably landed at the French Line pier on the Hudson
River.

Stew Driller
sdriller@...


Re: JRI-Poland Database #general

Stanley Diamond
 

Vivian Salama <salassoc@a.crl.com> asked:

Does the JRI-Poland database include those areas of Poland today
which were under German rule prior to WW II, i.e. Silesia and Posen?
If not does anyone know where those records are now? LDS doesn't
have everything.
Vivian Brieger Salama
Hillsborough, CA
The goal of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is to create Internet-based
searchable indices of 19th century Jewish vital records >from current and
former territories of Poland. The database may include indices to later
records and information >from towns which were once part of Poland but
are now part of Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus

For details of the available Jewish vital and other records for towns in
current day Poland, and their location, see Miriam Weiner's "Jewish
Roots in Poland: Pages >from the Past and Archival Inventories."
For more information on this book, go to the Routes to Roots
Foundation, Inc website at: <www.rtrfoundation.org>

Stanley Diamond,
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: JRI-Poland Database #general

Stanley Diamond
 

Vivian Salama <salassoc@a.crl.com> asked:

Does the JRI-Poland database include those areas of Poland today
which were under German rule prior to WW II, i.e. Silesia and Posen?
If not does anyone know where those records are now? LDS doesn't
have everything.
Vivian Brieger Salama
Hillsborough, CA
The goal of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is to create Internet-based
searchable indices of 19th century Jewish vital records >from current and
former territories of Poland. The database may include indices to later
records and information >from towns which were once part of Poland but
are now part of Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus

For details of the available Jewish vital and other records for towns in
current day Poland, and their location, see Miriam Weiner's "Jewish
Roots in Poland: Pages >from the Past and Archival Inventories."
For more information on this book, go to the Routes to Roots
Foundation, Inc website at: <www.rtrfoundation.org>

Stanley Diamond,
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Relatives in Argentina #latinamerica

Suzanne Kaller
 

My great-uncle was a homesteader in Argentina and settled in Mosesville
(?). His name was Avram Brenner. He came >from a shtetl near Odessa
called Dzagifka. I believe he became a cattle rancher.

Does anyone have any information to share?

Thanks,

Suzanne Kaller
Denver Colorado
sjk@...


Latin America #LatinAmerica Relatives in Argentina #latinamerica

Suzanne Kaller
 

My great-uncle was a homesteader in Argentina and settled in Mosesville
(?). His name was Avram Brenner. He came >from a shtetl near Odessa
called Dzagifka. I believe he became a cattle rancher.

Does anyone have any information to share?

Thanks,

Suzanne Kaller
Denver Colorado
sjk@...


Thank You For All the Responses Gr-Sonya Grodno Montefiore? #general

Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
 

I would like to thank everyone who replied to my request for info on my
grandmother Sonya Levin >from Grodno, buried at the Montefiore cemetery.
Their were so many responses I apologize for not thanking each of you
individually. I have tried callling the old Montefiore cemetery in
Queens & the new one in Long Island .There were also a few older Jewish
cemeteries in the area I tried . I also gave them the name Sarah as some
had suggested & the misspelling of Levine. I also tried her maiden name
Chomsky to see if there were any family butied near her- no such luck..
She died shortly affter arrival to NY during childbirth. I'm not sure if
her baby born stillborn would be buried along side her. I'm estimating
the years were 1915 to 1920. I am certain my father was correct on the
cemetery He had a photographic memory & even told me she had a funeral
attended by hundreds of people. Does anyone know the name of the Jewish
Funeral homes in that area that might have records that long ago? I
would appreciate any further suggestions you would havetobe able tofind
further infoon her. Thank you so much for all your help!
Gail Levin Dechter
P.S. I have sent for my grandfather Max's death certificate. He was
buried in Chgo several years later. I hope I can get some further info

from that..


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank You For All the Responses Gr-Sonya Grodno Montefiore? #general

Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
 

I would like to thank everyone who replied to my request for info on my
grandmother Sonya Levin >from Grodno, buried at the Montefiore cemetery.
Their were so many responses I apologize for not thanking each of you
individually. I have tried callling the old Montefiore cemetery in
Queens & the new one in Long Island .There were also a few older Jewish
cemeteries in the area I tried . I also gave them the name Sarah as some
had suggested & the misspelling of Levine. I also tried her maiden name
Chomsky to see if there were any family butied near her- no such luck..
She died shortly affter arrival to NY during childbirth. I'm not sure if
her baby born stillborn would be buried along side her. I'm estimating
the years were 1915 to 1920. I am certain my father was correct on the
cemetery He had a photographic memory & even told me she had a funeral
attended by hundreds of people. Does anyone know the name of the Jewish
Funeral homes in that area that might have records that long ago? I
would appreciate any further suggestions you would havetobe able tofind
further infoon her. Thank you so much for all your help!
Gail Levin Dechter
P.S. I have sent for my grandfather Max's death certificate. He was
buried in Chgo several years later. I hope I can get some further info

from that..


Re: Do you frequent your local LDS center? #poland

Josh Wander <josh@...>
 

I would like to know who could do me a favor and search for things for me at their local LDS "Home Family Center". I live in Jerusalem and I do not have access to one. I am willing to set up a system of compensation for all the expenses. Thank you! Josh Wander


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Do you frequent your local LDS center? #poland

Josh Wander <josh@...>
 

I would like to know who could do me a favor and search for things for me at their local LDS "Home Family Center". I live in Jerusalem and I do not have access to one. I am willing to set up a system of compensation for all the expenses. Thank you! Josh Wander


Announcement: JRI-Poland - Polish State Archives Project #poland

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
 

Press Release - For Immediate Release

Historic Jewish record indexing agreement
Signed with Polish State Archives

A historic agreement between Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
(JRI-Poland) and the Polish State Archives to index Polish Jewish
records was announced at the Summer Seminar on Jewish
Genealogy held in Los Angeles in July.

During his address, JRI-Poland Coordinator Stanley Diamond of
Montreal, formally announced the new initiative, called the Polish
State Archive Project and also revealed that the first results are
already included in the JRI-Poland database.

The Project is the result of a 1997 agreement between JRI-Poland
and the Polish State Archive to create a computerized Internet-
searchable database of previously unavailable 19th century Jewish
birth, marriage, and death (known as vital) records of Poland.
The new initiative builds on JRI-Poland's original and ongoing
initiative to index those Jewish vital records of Poland previously
microfilmed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
(LDS).

The LDS microfilm coverage of Jewish records >from Poland
generally ends between 1860 and 1870 and contain about two
million records. The new agreement covers about five million
additional records for the latter part of the 19th century. And,
in some cases, this indexing includes records in registers >from
earlier years which were not included in the LDS microfilming.

The JRI-Poland database enables all those with Jewish ancestry
to make an initial search through indexes for their family's records
using the Internet. Once entries are located, the researcher can
obtain copies of the actual records. For the records not filmed
by the LDS, researchers can now order them directly >from the
Polish State Archives. Such records have never before been
made accessible to the public.

The JRI-Poland - Polish State Archive Project will open up exciting
opportunities for researching previously inaccessible records for
the last part of the 19th century. The first eight towns for which
Internet-searchable ca 1865 - 1987 indices were made available
are Brok, Chorzele, Nasielsk, Nur, Ostrow Maz., Przasnysz,
Pultusk,and Wyszkow. The indexing is scheduled on an archive-
by-archive basis, and the late 19th century records for ten more
towns in the area around Mlawa will be available in the early fall.

Diamond's catalytic personal search for carriers of his family's
Beta-Thalassemia genetic trait led to the announcement today.
Diamond's successful use of the Ostrow Mazowiecka. database
created for his scientific research led to the request to index
other towns in the same way, providing a resource for all
researchers, not just those doing scientific work.

JRI-Poland has been recognized by investigators in the
international medical and scientific community because of the
potential benefit of the database for Ashkenazic families trying
to trace their medical histories, particularly those at increased
risk for hereditary conditions and diseases. Recognition has
come from: The Cancer Research Center of Albert Einstein
College of Medicine - Yeshiva University, Hebrew University -
Hadassah Medical School, Epidemiology-Genetics Program -
Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, McGill University - Montreal
Children's Hospital Research Institute, McGill University -
Division of Medical Genetics, Mount Sinai Hospital -
Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and Yale University Cancer
Genetics Program.

Unlike the indexing of the records in the LDS microfilms, which
utilizes volunteers formed into Shtetl CO-OPs for individual towns,
this new project requires fund-raising to cover the costs of photo-
copying and transliteration work, which is all carried out by
JRI-Poland's team of professionals in Poland.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is a non-profit organization
directed by a board of volunteers with members in the U.S.,
Canada and Great Britain.

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland website may be viewed at
<www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl>. The full text of the presentation
in Los Angeles is available on the JRI-Poland website.

-- 30 --

Posted by the board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
Judy Baston
Stanley Diamond
Barbara Khait
Hadassah Lipsius
Stuart Richler (List Moderator)
Michael Richman
Vladimir Rozenbaum
Sheila Salo
Michael Tobias
Steven Zedeck (Webmaster)


JRI Poland #Poland Announcement: JRI-Poland - Polish State Archives Project #poland

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
 

Press Release - For Immediate Release

Historic Jewish record indexing agreement
Signed with Polish State Archives

A historic agreement between Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
(JRI-Poland) and the Polish State Archives to index Polish Jewish
records was announced at the Summer Seminar on Jewish
Genealogy held in Los Angeles in July.

During his address, JRI-Poland Coordinator Stanley Diamond of
Montreal, formally announced the new initiative, called the Polish
State Archive Project and also revealed that the first results are
already included in the JRI-Poland database.

The Project is the result of a 1997 agreement between JRI-Poland
and the Polish State Archive to create a computerized Internet-
searchable database of previously unavailable 19th century Jewish
birth, marriage, and death (known as vital) records of Poland.
The new initiative builds on JRI-Poland's original and ongoing
initiative to index those Jewish vital records of Poland previously
microfilmed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
(LDS).

The LDS microfilm coverage of Jewish records >from Poland
generally ends between 1860 and 1870 and contain about two
million records. The new agreement covers about five million
additional records for the latter part of the 19th century. And,
in some cases, this indexing includes records in registers >from
earlier years which were not included in the LDS microfilming.

The JRI-Poland database enables all those with Jewish ancestry
to make an initial search through indexes for their family's records
using the Internet. Once entries are located, the researcher can
obtain copies of the actual records. For the records not filmed
by the LDS, researchers can now order them directly >from the
Polish State Archives. Such records have never before been
made accessible to the public.

The JRI-Poland - Polish State Archive Project will open up exciting
opportunities for researching previously inaccessible records for
the last part of the 19th century. The first eight towns for which
Internet-searchable ca 1865 - 1987 indices were made available
are Brok, Chorzele, Nasielsk, Nur, Ostrow Maz., Przasnysz,
Pultusk,and Wyszkow. The indexing is scheduled on an archive-
by-archive basis, and the late 19th century records for ten more
towns in the area around Mlawa will be available in the early fall.

Diamond's catalytic personal search for carriers of his family's
Beta-Thalassemia genetic trait led to the announcement today.
Diamond's successful use of the Ostrow Mazowiecka. database
created for his scientific research led to the request to index
other towns in the same way, providing a resource for all
researchers, not just those doing scientific work.

JRI-Poland has been recognized by investigators in the
international medical and scientific community because of the
potential benefit of the database for Ashkenazic families trying
to trace their medical histories, particularly those at increased
risk for hereditary conditions and diseases. Recognition has
come from: The Cancer Research Center of Albert Einstein
College of Medicine - Yeshiva University, Hebrew University -
Hadassah Medical School, Epidemiology-Genetics Program -
Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, McGill University - Montreal
Children's Hospital Research Institute, McGill University -
Division of Medical Genetics, Mount Sinai Hospital -
Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and Yale University Cancer
Genetics Program.

Unlike the indexing of the records in the LDS microfilms, which
utilizes volunteers formed into Shtetl CO-OPs for individual towns,
this new project requires fund-raising to cover the costs of photo-
copying and transliteration work, which is all carried out by
JRI-Poland's team of professionals in Poland.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is a non-profit organization
directed by a board of volunteers with members in the U.S.,
Canada and Great Britain.

The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland website may be viewed at
<www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl>. The full text of the presentation
in Los Angeles is available on the JRI-Poland website.

-- 30 --

Posted by the board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
Judy Baston
Stanley Diamond
Barbara Khait
Hadassah Lipsius
Stuart Richler (List Moderator)
Michael Richman
Vladimir Rozenbaum
Sheila Salo
Michael Tobias
Steven Zedeck (Webmaster)


Re: accessing Volhynia SIG #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Lynne writes that she and others are having trouble accessing the
Volhynia SIG >from the JewishGen pages.

Problem is twofold but basically a misunderstanding about what
hyperlinks are for, and how to subscribe to the mailing lists.

Lynne writes
That is, every SIG but Keidan and Volhynia shows up on my list
(on AOL)in blue, as something I can double click and access.<<

The underlined words in colored type indicate that this is linked
to another page and clicking on the link takes you to that
additional page. In the case of the SIGs they are linked either
to a website or an InfoFile. Where there is no hyperlink, there
is no additional page.

Should you want to subscribe to the mailing list for any of the
SIGs or Projects listed, you need to scroll down to the bottom
of the page and click on the I Want To Subscribe button.

Lynn also asks:
If I were to subscribe, are the messages available without
unscrambling something? <

If you have to unscramble anything that's due to your own pc
settings and you should turn to your ISP for guidance on how
to correct. All our mailing lists are sent in a straight text
version readable by all e-mail programs.

Hope this solves the problem anyone may be having.

Carol Skydell
JewishGen Support Team

Now to demonstrate how fast things move around here, behind the
scenes at JewishGen! <grin> Even as I typed the above, our
webmaster Warren Blatt moved Volhynia SIG to the Regional Special
Interest Groups and linked it to a great webpage compiled by
Mark Heckman. So, if you still see Volhynia SIG with no
hyperlink, try reloading or refreshing your screen.


Lost mail, August 2 to 12: HELP! PLEASE #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

Dear Friends:

Well, it could have been worse... but it is bad enough.

My AOL Personal Filing Cabinet was corrupted today and my back-up
was ten days old. So, even with the AOL "retrieve old mail sent and
received feature"... many messages have been lost.

So, if you wrote me between August 2nd and 12th and I owe you a
reply, please re-send your message. Or, if you received a message
from me during that time, and it was important, please send me a copy.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Stanley Diamond


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: accessing Volhynia SIG #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Lynne writes that she and others are having trouble accessing the
Volhynia SIG >from the JewishGen pages.

Problem is twofold but basically a misunderstanding about what
hyperlinks are for, and how to subscribe to the mailing lists.

Lynne writes
That is, every SIG but Keidan and Volhynia shows up on my list
(on AOL)in blue, as something I can double click and access.<<

The underlined words in colored type indicate that this is linked
to another page and clicking on the link takes you to that
additional page. In the case of the SIGs they are linked either
to a website or an InfoFile. Where there is no hyperlink, there
is no additional page.

Should you want to subscribe to the mailing list for any of the
SIGs or Projects listed, you need to scroll down to the bottom
of the page and click on the I Want To Subscribe button.

Lynn also asks:
If I were to subscribe, are the messages available without
unscrambling something? <

If you have to unscramble anything that's due to your own pc
settings and you should turn to your ISP for guidance on how
to correct. All our mailing lists are sent in a straight text
version readable by all e-mail programs.

Hope this solves the problem anyone may be having.

Carol Skydell
JewishGen Support Team

Now to demonstrate how fast things move around here, behind the
scenes at JewishGen! <grin> Even as I typed the above, our
webmaster Warren Blatt moved Volhynia SIG to the Regional Special
Interest Groups and linked it to a great webpage compiled by
Mark Heckman. So, if you still see Volhynia SIG with no
hyperlink, try reloading or refreshing your screen.


JRI Poland #Poland Lost mail, August 2 to 12: HELP! PLEASE #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

Dear Friends:

Well, it could have been worse... but it is bad enough.

My AOL Personal Filing Cabinet was corrupted today and my back-up
was ten days old. So, even with the AOL "retrieve old mail sent and
received feature"... many messages have been lost.

So, if you wrote me between August 2nd and 12th and I owe you a
reply, please re-send your message. Or, if you received a message
from me during that time, and it was important, please send me a copy.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Stanley Diamond