Apologies for the incorrect date posted for the JGSP meeting
notice. Between my recent Windows crash and the current
problems with e-mail on AOL, I got a bit mixed up.

Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>

Corrected Details:

September Meeting of
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY of PHILADELPHIA

Date: Monday, Sept. 14, 1998
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at GRATZ COLLEGE
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
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Speaker: JUDITH BERNSTEIN-BAKER, Esq.
Topic: HIAS and Council of Phildelphia - A Century Retrospective
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Apologies for the incorrect date posted for the JGSP meeting
notice. Between my recent Windows crash and the current
problems with e-mail on AOL, I got a bit mixed up.

Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>

Corrected Details:

September Meeting of
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY of PHILADELPHIA

Date: Monday, Sept. 14, 1998
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at GRATZ COLLEGE
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
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Speaker: JUDITH BERNSTEIN-BAKER, Esq.
Topic: HIAS and Council of Phildelphia - A Century Retrospective
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Dear Name Seekers,

Let me add one small point to the on-going debate on names.

I met with several cases, when the Hebrew or liturgical name,
which is also called synagogue name in Hungary, would differ

from the secular name, kninui, which can be also a Hebrew name,

or name with Hebrew origin. For example, Hebrew name was
Yosef ben David, while the secular name was Jonatan Klein.
I asked some members of the family about the reason of this
name giving pattern. The answer was the following: the Hebrew
name was after a deceased member of the family (usually
grandfather), while the kinnui was freely chosen. At least this was
the custom in our family.

Anybody with similar experience?
--
Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu
Budapest, Hungary

Dear Name Seekers,

Let me add one small point to the on-going debate on names.

I met with several cases, when the Hebrew or liturgical name,
which is also called synagogue name in Hungary, would differ

from the secular name, kninui, which can be also a Hebrew name,

or name with Hebrew origin. For example, Hebrew name was
Yosef ben David, while the secular name was Jonatan Klein.
I asked some members of the family about the reason of this
name giving pattern. The answer was the following: the Hebrew
name was after a deceased member of the family (usually
grandfather), while the kinnui was freely chosen. At least this was
the custom in our family.

Anybody with similar experience?
--
Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu
Budapest, Hungary

I have a birth certificate issued >from Nowy Targ Poland that lists the
child's mother as "Ester SCHLACHET nee TIEBERGER. " What does "nee"
mean? What language is this? It would make sense to me, given what I
have been told, that it must mean "formerly." Can anyone confirm this?

I have a birth certificate issued >from Nowy Targ Poland that lists the
child's mother as "Ester SCHLACHET nee TIEBERGER. " What does "nee"
mean? What language is this? It would make sense to me, given what I
have been told, that it must mean "formerly." Can anyone confirm this?

In other words - it has been said:

While searching for the dead, remember the living!

Genealogically speaking!
Sylvia
curiousyl@aol.com

In other words - it has been said:

While searching for the dead, remember the living!

Genealogically speaking!
Sylvia
curiousyl@aol.com

When doing research at the Family Research Center in London, last year,
I pulled a marriage certificate, thinking it might be a clue to my
family, but unfortunately I subsequently found that there was no
relationship. I would be happy to send a copy to any interested party.
Isaac Berrick, age 22, tailor. living at 4 Matilda St, London, married
Tilly Cohen, age 21, on December 24, 1905. Isaac's father Meyer was a
bootmaker, as was Tillie's father, Marks. Place of marriage was the
East London Synagogue.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.
rbofrb@fda.net

Searching: BERRICK, Ylakiai, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, Ylakiai, Lithuania

When doing research at the Family Research Center in London, last year,
I pulled a marriage certificate, thinking it might be a clue to my
family, but unfortunately I subsequently found that there was no
relationship. I would be happy to send a copy to any interested party.
Isaac Berrick, age 22, tailor. living at 4 Matilda St, London, married
Tilly Cohen, age 21, on December 24, 1905. Isaac's father Meyer was a
bootmaker, as was Tillie's father, Marks. Place of marriage was the
East London Synagogue.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.
rbofrb@fda.net

Searching: BERRICK, Ylakiai, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, Ylakiai, Lithuania

I have posted an inquiry before on the POLLACK FAMILY before but since I have
learned some additional information, I would like to try again:

My great-great grandparents were:
YENTA AND LESTER POLLACK BOTH OF MINSK.

They arrived shortly after my great-grandfather HERMAN POLLACK and his twin
sister FREDA POLLACK LEVINE was born on March 15, 1885 in Minsk. In addition
they had a half-sister LENA ZEIK SALAV. They also had another sister MAIME
POLLACK LEVINE, born in Kansas City in 1892.

YENTA POLLACK (c.1860-1950) was previously married to PETER ZEIK who lived in
Bayonne, NJ and LENA POLLACK SALAV born about 1879 was their daugher. LENA
SALAV lived in the Bronx. She had 7 children, some would be over 100 if alive
today. My grandmother was married at the SALAV's home on December 24, 1929 by
Rabbi Fisher.

One daughter, MAYME POLLACK LEVINE along with her husband and children lived
at my great-great grandmother's farm in Colchester, CT.
MAIME POLLACK LEVINE and FREDA POLLACK LEVINE both married 2 brothers from
Kansas City, MO.
FREDA LEVINE lived in Kansas City all her life. I think her husband was HARRY
LEVINE.

My great-grandfather HERMAN POLLACK died in 1959 and lived in Kansas City up
until the 1920'a at which time he moved to Cleveland, Ohio. He was a tailor
and legend is that he made uniforms for Teddy Roosevelt's officers. He was
also very active in the communist party.

There is one child of the YENTA and LESTER POLLACK that is unaccounted for. We
know that he/she lived in Colorado. In 1893, my great-great grandparents
LESTER AND YENTA POLLACK moved to Colorado to seek treatment for LESTER'S
emphysema but he did not survive and is buried in Denver. LESTER POLLACK died
shortly after arriving. The story of the lost sibling has circulated for along
time. My grandmother, HERMAN POLLACK's daughter used to visit the POLLACK
family in Denver and even moved there during the 1930's to be close to
cousins. I have some picture of this family during the 1920's and some are
labeled Estes Park, CO.

If your POLLACK FAMILY has been in Denver prior to 1893 I would like to talk
with you. Please write me.
In addition, my great-great grandmother was married three times but it is
known that in her older age she returned to her family name of SUTTON. The
SUTTON's were >from Minsk, but I do not know if they all immigrated along with
my great-great grandmother's family. I do know that her parents lived in Minsk
and she returned to Minsk to see her parents after LESTER or LAZURUS POLLACK
died in 1893. At that time HERMAN POLLACK remained in the USA, probably with
relatives, maybe in Kansas City or Colorado.

If you have any information you can provide, please feel free to contact me.
Stuart Cohn

I have posted an inquiry before on the POLLACK FAMILY before but since I have
learned some additional information, I would like to try again:

My great-great grandparents were:
YENTA AND LESTER POLLACK BOTH OF MINSK.

They arrived shortly after my great-grandfather HERMAN POLLACK and his twin
sister FREDA POLLACK LEVINE was born on March 15, 1885 in Minsk. In addition
they had a half-sister LENA ZEIK SALAV. They also had another sister MAIME
POLLACK LEVINE, born in Kansas City in 1892.

YENTA POLLACK (c.1860-1950) was previously married to PETER ZEIK who lived in
Bayonne, NJ and LENA POLLACK SALAV born about 1879 was their daugher. LENA
SALAV lived in the Bronx. She had 7 children, some would be over 100 if alive
today. My grandmother was married at the SALAV's home on December 24, 1929 by
Rabbi Fisher.

One daughter, MAYME POLLACK LEVINE along with her husband and children lived
at my great-great grandmother's farm in Colchester, CT.
MAIME POLLACK LEVINE and FREDA POLLACK LEVINE both married 2 brothers from
Kansas City, MO.
FREDA LEVINE lived in Kansas City all her life. I think her husband was HARRY
LEVINE.

My great-grandfather HERMAN POLLACK died in 1959 and lived in Kansas City up
until the 1920'a at which time he moved to Cleveland, Ohio. He was a tailor
and legend is that he made uniforms for Teddy Roosevelt's officers. He was
also very active in the communist party.

There is one child of the YENTA and LESTER POLLACK that is unaccounted for. We
know that he/she lived in Colorado. In 1893, my great-great grandparents
LESTER AND YENTA POLLACK moved to Colorado to seek treatment for LESTER'S
emphysema but he did not survive and is buried in Denver. LESTER POLLACK died
shortly after arriving. The story of the lost sibling has circulated for along
time. My grandmother, HERMAN POLLACK's daughter used to visit the POLLACK
family in Denver and even moved there during the 1930's to be close to
cousins. I have some picture of this family during the 1920's and some are
labeled Estes Park, CO.

If your POLLACK FAMILY has been in Denver prior to 1893 I would like to talk
with you. Please write me.
In addition, my great-great grandmother was married three times but it is
known that in her older age she returned to her family name of SUTTON. The
SUTTON's were >from Minsk, but I do not know if they all immigrated along with
my great-great grandmother's family. I do know that her parents lived in Minsk
and she returned to Minsk to see her parents after LESTER or LAZURUS POLLACK
died in 1893. At that time HERMAN POLLACK remained in the USA, probably with
relatives, maybe in Kansas City or Colorado.

If you have any information you can provide, please feel free to contact me.
Stuart Cohn

I am trying to translate parts of a Yizkor book and need
help with a few Yiddish words:

1. a broken-down wagon is described as "tsushedikt"

2. a collapsed horse is described as "gepeygert"

3. several groups of Jews are mentioned: shopkeepers,
butchers and "konyukhes"

4. a large public space is called a "rebeleh"

5. an impromptu flag is tied to an "eteseh"

6. a clumsy foolish fellow is called (among other names) a "latutnik"

7. Weinreich's dictionary says that "kitka" means a bit of putty, but
that doesn't fit in my context: a dancing Hasid is clapping two of
them together. Is there another meaning for the word?

Thanks in advance. I can make shrewd guesses about most of these, but
I hope somebody in this talented group really knows.


Stephen Warshall <warshall@post.harvard.edu>
Gloucester, MA

I am trying to translate parts of a Yizkor book and need
help with a few Yiddish words:

1. a broken-down wagon is described as "tsushedikt"

2. a collapsed horse is described as "gepeygert"

3. several groups of Jews are mentioned: shopkeepers,
butchers and "konyukhes"

4. a large public space is called a "rebeleh"

5. an impromptu flag is tied to an "eteseh"

6. a clumsy foolish fellow is called (among other names) a "latutnik"

7. Weinreich's dictionary says that "kitka" means a bit of putty, but
that doesn't fit in my context: a dancing Hasid is clapping two of
them together. Is there another meaning for the word?

Thanks in advance. I can make shrewd guesses about most of these, but
I hope somebody in this talented group really knows.


Stephen Warshall <warshall@post.harvard.edu>
Gloucester, MA

I also believed this, but I'm not so sure any more. A Galicia researcher
on this list and I have a common family name (Nebenzahl) which supposedly
is a single family. Although the male Nebenzahls of my family essentially
"daughtered out," the Nebenzahl men in my line were Kohanim. However,
this researcher told me that the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim,
and explained that he found in his research evidence of some matrilineal
transmission which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His
argument is interesting food for thought.

I have been told by a Chasedic (sp ?) rabbi that being a Kohaniem is
passed via the father. If I remember right, he also said that the mother
must be Jewish -- i.e. if the mother is Jewish and the father is a
Kohaniem, then the sons will be kohaniem.

...david

dcooper@techie.com
Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,FLEISHMAN,POSNER
(POIZNER),PRITIKIN
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/

I also believed this, but I'm not so sure any more. A Galicia researcher
on this list and I have a common family name (Nebenzahl) which supposedly
is a single family. Although the male Nebenzahls of my family essentially
"daughtered out," the Nebenzahl men in my line were Kohanim. However,
this researcher told me that the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim,
and explained that he found in his research evidence of some matrilineal
transmission which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His
argument is interesting food for thought.

I have been told by a Chasedic (sp ?) rabbi that being a Kohaniem is
passed via the father. If I remember right, he also said that the mother
must be Jewish -- i.e. if the mother is Jewish and the father is a
Kohaniem, then the sons will be kohaniem.

...david

dcooper@techie.com
Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,FLEISHMAN,POSNER
(POIZNER),PRITIKIN
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/

Morning All,

In this post, I am searching for information on YARESHEFSKY.
I'd like to hear >from anyone with info on the YARESHEFSKY family
(Sam/Sarah),Bklyn, NY (1900-48),>from Odessa, Ukraine.
GF Sam YARESHEFSKY arrived Port of NY, circa May 1900.

2 Brothers followed >from Odessa (1905-1910): David & Morris.
Derivative spellings for GF's name are:

YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,
JAROCHEWSKI, YARREY, YOUNG, YAROSH, YARESH.

This is an on-going search for family, as I have already searched/posted
to JG Family Finder (Researcher #7493); Consulted 1920 Census records;
Searched for GF's Declaration
of Intention (for US citizenship); Searched at Utah in the
Mormon Church records, etc. All have yielded up nothing.

If the above rings a bell, please reply.

Thank you very much,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

Morning All,

In this post, I am searching for information on YARESHEFSKY.
I'd like to hear >from anyone with info on the YARESHEFSKY family
(Sam/Sarah),Bklyn, NY (1900-48),>from Odessa, Ukraine.
GF Sam YARESHEFSKY arrived Port of NY, circa May 1900.

2 Brothers followed >from Odessa (1905-1910): David & Morris.
Derivative spellings for GF's name are:

YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,
JAROCHEWSKI, YARREY, YOUNG, YAROSH, YARESH.

This is an on-going search for family, as I have already searched/posted
to JG Family Finder (Researcher #7493); Consulted 1920 Census records;
Searched for GF's Declaration
of Intention (for US citizenship); Searched at Utah in the
Mormon Church records, etc. All have yielded up nothing.

If the above rings a bell, please reply.

Thank you very much,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

The Markeen was listed as the First Fire-Proof Apartment bldg. errected
in the city of Buffalo. My grandfather was said to have owned or at
least run these apartments for a period of time. This bldg no longer
exists, I have the perspectus on the bldg which my uncle found, but would
love to find someone who has a personal account. Someone who possibly
lived there, remembers my grandparents Ben & Sara KAPE. My mother
remembers playing & working there as a young girl. Her name is Helaine.
She remembers it being very elegant for the time. I was looking for the
year this would have been erected, but have been unable to find this.
Location was on the corner of Utica & Main streets. On the diagram it
shows that it was across the street >from All Saints P. E. Church. It
looks like it was roughly 8 - 10 blocks >from the outer edge of Forrest
Lawn Cemetary according to the diagram.

If this rings any bells for anyone, please contact me at;
Tracibear@juno.com or Tracibear@iname.com

Thanks,
Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson

The Markeen was listed as the First Fire-Proof Apartment bldg. errected
in the city of Buffalo. My grandfather was said to have owned or at
least run these apartments for a period of time. This bldg no longer
exists, I have the perspectus on the bldg which my uncle found, but would
love to find someone who has a personal account. Someone who possibly
lived there, remembers my grandparents Ben & Sara KAPE. My mother
remembers playing & working there as a young girl. Her name is Helaine.
She remembers it being very elegant for the time. I was looking for the
year this would have been erected, but have been unable to find this.
Location was on the corner of Utica & Main streets. On the diagram it
shows that it was across the street >from All Saints P. E. Church. It
looks like it was roughly 8 - 10 blocks >from the outer edge of Forrest
Lawn Cemetary according to the diagram.

If this rings any bells for anyone, please contact me at;
Tracibear@juno.com or Tracibear@iname.com

Thanks,
Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson