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Need legal help in Czech Rep. #general

moshe susser <msusser@...>
 

We need an attorney, or other legal help to reclaim a property in the
Czech Republic. Any help or advise will be appreciated.
Moshe Susser

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need legal help in Czech Rep. #general

moshe susser <msusser@...>
 

We need an attorney, or other legal help to reclaim a property in the
Czech Republic. Any help or advise will be appreciated.
Moshe Susser

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New Beginners Course in London starts 21st October #general

Beverley Olsberg <BOlsberg@...>
 

This is to invite you, your relatives and friends to join a Genealogy
Beginners Course specifically designed by the JGSGB for the Spiro
Institute at the Old House, Kidderpore Gardens, Hampstead, London, NW3
starting 21st October 1998 for 8 weeks on Wednesday mornings 10.30am to
12.30pm . Cost: 48 pounds (reduced to 40 pounds for JGSGB members)

Are you interested in unlocking your family's history? Is your goal to
brush up on dusty genealogy skills?


This type of course stimulates discussion and unites grandparents,
parents, children, cousins, aunts & uncles .... so bring one of your
relatives to accompany you, working together to hasten the recall process
with all the enthusiasm that it engenders ... it will be a worthwhile
investment!

The course will introduce you to the resources essential for researching
your family history. Experienced speakers >from the JGSGB reveal where you
can uncover an enormous selection of records; explain how data can be
compiled with (or without) a computer; how the internet can be useful; and
advise on many other aspects of research - such as how best to conduct
interviews and how to gain access to records in Eastern Europe. With the
possibility of a further series in the Spring, including conducted visits
to major resource centres, here is an opportunity to learn to make
history - and organise a family reunion!

For prospectus or to register direct contact: The Spiro Institute on 0171-
431 0345

For further information about the course contact: Beverley Olsberg
<BOlsberg@compuserve.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Beginners Course in London starts 21st October #general

Beverley Olsberg <BOlsberg@...>
 

This is to invite you, your relatives and friends to join a Genealogy
Beginners Course specifically designed by the JGSGB for the Spiro
Institute at the Old House, Kidderpore Gardens, Hampstead, London, NW3
starting 21st October 1998 for 8 weeks on Wednesday mornings 10.30am to
12.30pm . Cost: 48 pounds (reduced to 40 pounds for JGSGB members)

Are you interested in unlocking your family's history? Is your goal to
brush up on dusty genealogy skills?


This type of course stimulates discussion and unites grandparents,
parents, children, cousins, aunts & uncles .... so bring one of your
relatives to accompany you, working together to hasten the recall process
with all the enthusiasm that it engenders ... it will be a worthwhile
investment!

The course will introduce you to the resources essential for researching
your family history. Experienced speakers >from the JGSGB reveal where you
can uncover an enormous selection of records; explain how data can be
compiled with (or without) a computer; how the internet can be useful; and
advise on many other aspects of research - such as how best to conduct
interviews and how to gain access to records in Eastern Europe. With the
possibility of a further series in the Spring, including conducted visits
to major resource centres, here is an opportunity to learn to make
history - and organise a family reunion!

For prospectus or to register direct contact: The Spiro Institute on 0171-
431 0345

For further information about the course contact: Beverley Olsberg
<BOlsberg@compuserve.com>


A hold of land #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

A Hungarian hold is equal to 1.42 acres (0.57 hectares). Obviously, 120
hold was quite enough to enable somebody to be a prosperous full-time
farmer. There were poor peasant families who subsisted on as little as
5 or 10 holds. However, it does not really answer your question. It
depends on how entrepreneurial they were. >from what I know of the Jews
of that time and place, they tried to be as diversified as they could
be. Therefore, it is quite possible that they farmed out a fair bit of
their land to tenants, or hired large numbers of farm employees, and
also ran some other business on the side. My wife's grandfather in
Zemplen had 80 holds of land, but also kept a tavern on the side. A
further temptation to doing this was that they had a lot of children and
thus a lot of hands to keep busy.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


Hungary SIG #Hungary A hold of land #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

A Hungarian hold is equal to 1.42 acres (0.57 hectares). Obviously, 120
hold was quite enough to enable somebody to be a prosperous full-time
farmer. There were poor peasant families who subsisted on as little as
5 or 10 holds. However, it does not really answer your question. It
depends on how entrepreneurial they were. >from what I know of the Jews
of that time and place, they tried to be as diversified as they could
be. Therefore, it is quite possible that they farmed out a fair bit of
their land to tenants, or hired large numbers of farm employees, and
also ran some other business on the side. My wife's grandfather in
Zemplen had 80 holds of land, but also kept a tavern on the side. A
further temptation to doing this was that they had a lot of children and
thus a lot of hands to keep busy.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


Russian Jews in italy #general

dardasht@...
 

A possible source of information has come to my attention. In the late 19th
century and early 20th century (pre-1933) there were a series of spa towns in Italy
frequented by Russian/Belarussian Jews.
A cousin, Mikhail TALALAY, is researching the history of the Russian
diaspora in Italy (he lives in Florence). It seems the Russian Orthodox church was
quite active in many such towns, setting up traveler's houses, etc., as well as
establishing Russian-speaking communities.
Indeed, once I made contact with Misha, he told me that he found a record
of the death of an Emanuel TALALAY >from Mogilev, entered in the archives of the
local Lutheran community in Merano in 1892. The young man was trying to recover
from TB.
Why the Lutheran archives? Misha will investigating why, perhaps in this
year there was not yet an organized Jewish community in the town. He is also going
to contact the local Jewish community and ask them as well.
Additionally, when relating the story to another cousin, Victor TALALAY of
Toronto, Victor told me that his great-grandmother, the mother of Sophia Brosterman
TALALAY - originally of Gomel, spent the years 1920-30 in the same city, Merano.
A Russian doctor by the name of Messing was promoting the spa towns and
many people came. If you were a Russian-speaking Jew and thought this would help,
you would naturally go to where a Russian-speaking community was available to help
you, thus I would assume, relationships perhaps sprung up between certain towns.
perhaps people >from Mogilev and Gomel had settled in Merano and encouraged others
to visit.
This diaspora was news to me, as I am sure it is exciting news to others,
and perhaps opens other avenues of research.
We had previously known about Minai TALALAY (male), born 1873, who had died
at the age of 27 in Carlsbad, also searching for a cure. He was >from the branch
that had previousl resettled >from Mogilev to Moscow, in late 19th century.
Misha is of course now looking for TALALAY as his own reserch project
proceeds.
We don't normally look for Belarussian Jews in Italy, but I am sure that
these two references listed above are not the only incidents!!
This is about all I have right now, but I will post more information as I
learn about it.
Good luck to all.
Schelly Dardashti
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com
Mogilev/Voratinschtina: TALALAY, BERLIN, LURIA, MERLIN/MIRLS, MITTLEMAN, KORE,
STAROSELSKY, ALTSHUL/ALTSHULER, DISKIN, SINKEVICH, DONIN/DONICH, SHULMAN, ROGOVER,
MINKEN/MUENSTER, RUBINOVICH, RUBINOVA, BOOKBINDER, KAGAN, JASSEN/YASIN. Kovno:
BANK. Iran: DARDASHTI. Spain/North Africa: BENTOLILA/TOLILA. America: TOLLIN,
TALLIN, TOLL, TALL, TAYLOR, TALALAY, TOLILA.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Jews in italy #general

dardasht@...
 

A possible source of information has come to my attention. In the late 19th
century and early 20th century (pre-1933) there were a series of spa towns in Italy
frequented by Russian/Belarussian Jews.
A cousin, Mikhail TALALAY, is researching the history of the Russian
diaspora in Italy (he lives in Florence). It seems the Russian Orthodox church was
quite active in many such towns, setting up traveler's houses, etc., as well as
establishing Russian-speaking communities.
Indeed, once I made contact with Misha, he told me that he found a record
of the death of an Emanuel TALALAY >from Mogilev, entered in the archives of the
local Lutheran community in Merano in 1892. The young man was trying to recover
from TB.
Why the Lutheran archives? Misha will investigating why, perhaps in this
year there was not yet an organized Jewish community in the town. He is also going
to contact the local Jewish community and ask them as well.
Additionally, when relating the story to another cousin, Victor TALALAY of
Toronto, Victor told me that his great-grandmother, the mother of Sophia Brosterman
TALALAY - originally of Gomel, spent the years 1920-30 in the same city, Merano.
A Russian doctor by the name of Messing was promoting the spa towns and
many people came. If you were a Russian-speaking Jew and thought this would help,
you would naturally go to where a Russian-speaking community was available to help
you, thus I would assume, relationships perhaps sprung up between certain towns.
perhaps people >from Mogilev and Gomel had settled in Merano and encouraged others
to visit.
This diaspora was news to me, as I am sure it is exciting news to others,
and perhaps opens other avenues of research.
We had previously known about Minai TALALAY (male), born 1873, who had died
at the age of 27 in Carlsbad, also searching for a cure. He was >from the branch
that had previousl resettled >from Mogilev to Moscow, in late 19th century.
Misha is of course now looking for TALALAY as his own reserch project
proceeds.
We don't normally look for Belarussian Jews in Italy, but I am sure that
these two references listed above are not the only incidents!!
This is about all I have right now, but I will post more information as I
learn about it.
Good luck to all.
Schelly Dardashti
JGS of Southern Nevada-East
dardasht@ix.netcom.com
Mogilev/Voratinschtina: TALALAY, BERLIN, LURIA, MERLIN/MIRLS, MITTLEMAN, KORE,
STAROSELSKY, ALTSHUL/ALTSHULER, DISKIN, SINKEVICH, DONIN/DONICH, SHULMAN, ROGOVER,
MINKEN/MUENSTER, RUBINOVICH, RUBINOVA, BOOKBINDER, KAGAN, JASSEN/YASIN. Kovno:
BANK. Iran: DARDASHTI. Spain/North Africa: BENTOLILA/TOLILA. America: TOLLIN,
TALLIN, TOLL, TALL, TAYLOR, TALALAY, TOLILA.


Re: Kotish Money #general

Shalom Mandelbaum <shalom@...>
 

Most probably "Kadish Money"
This is a grant paid to someone to say kadish onc a year at the "yarzeit"
date of death or burial of the deceased. It is usually done if the deceased
has no sons or if he thinks that the sons will not do it themselves.

Shalom Mandelbaum

roberta F Ponn wrote:

Could some kind genner tell me the meaning of the above phrase.? It was
used in a will (c1893) to describe money left to the Hebrew Union College
in memory of the will writer and his deceased wife. We do not have any
ideas.
Roberta Ponn
Jackson,MI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kotish Money #general

Shalom Mandelbaum <shalom@...>
 

Most probably "Kadish Money"
This is a grant paid to someone to say kadish onc a year at the "yarzeit"
date of death or burial of the deceased. It is usually done if the deceased
has no sons or if he thinks that the sons will not do it themselves.

Shalom Mandelbaum

roberta F Ponn wrote:

Could some kind genner tell me the meaning of the above phrase.? It was
used in a will (c1893) to describe money left to the Hebrew Union College
in memory of the will writer and his deceased wife. We do not have any
ideas.
Roberta Ponn
Jackson,MI


TAUB(E) / SOFER #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Does anyone know how, when and where the family of
Rabbi Avraham Moshe Schreiber/Sofer (the Hatam Sofer)
produced a family of descendants named Taub(e)?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


YOELSON - from Hamburg? #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Does anyone know if Al Jolson's Yoelson family came
from Hamburg or had a Hamburg branch? If so, is
there a Yoelson genealogy available somewhere?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TAUB(E) / SOFER #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Does anyone know how, when and where the family of
Rabbi Avraham Moshe Schreiber/Sofer (the Hatam Sofer)
produced a family of descendants named Taub(e)?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YOELSON - from Hamburg? #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Does anyone know if Al Jolson's Yoelson family came
from Hamburg or had a Hamburg branch? If so, is
there a Yoelson genealogy available somewhere?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


Searching for descendants of Max and Dina KORMAN #general

Steinsteve@...
 

Does this ring a bell for anyone? Max and Dina KORMAN lived on or near Wales
Avenue in the Bronx, then moved to Corona or Maspeth, Queens. Dina's mother
was sister to my great-grandmother, Chaya KATZAN/KUTZI GERTZMAN. Please
contact if this sounds familiar.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA
Steinsteve@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for descendants of Max and Dina KORMAN #general

Steinsteve@...
 

Does this ring a bell for anyone? Max and Dina KORMAN lived on or near Wales
Avenue in the Bronx, then moved to Corona or Maspeth, Queens. Dina's mother
was sister to my great-grandmother, Chaya KATZAN/KUTZI GERTZMAN. Please
contact if this sounds familiar.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA
Steinsteve@aol.com


TOBIAS --Another name for Tulsin, Latvia? #general

Seesiegel <seesiegel@...>
 

I was told that my grandmother (deceased), Celia TOBIAS , came >from Tulsin,
Latvia around 1905. Are there other names for Tulsin? Is it Tolchien? Any
other ideas. I have hit dead ends beyond her (her parents names, etc.) and
am hoping the townname cross reference may help.
--Carolyn R. Siegel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TOBIAS --Another name for Tulsin, Latvia? #general

Seesiegel <seesiegel@...>
 

I was told that my grandmother (deceased), Celia TOBIAS , came >from Tulsin,
Latvia around 1905. Are there other names for Tulsin? Is it Tolchien? Any
other ideas. I have hit dead ends beyond her (her parents names, etc.) and
am hoping the townname cross reference may help.
--Carolyn R. Siegel


Shvinzian/Svencionys Landsmanshaft #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

The Shvinzian Landsmanshaft of Israel published a yizkor in 1965. I
have not been able to find any information on the persons responsible
for putting the book together. I am most interested in finding
information on Heschel HURWITZ who wrote most of the articles. The
Shvinzian yizkor book is 2000 pages (670 for Shvinzian, the rest for 23
surrounding communities). I find it hard to believe that no information
can be had on the history of the people that produced it. Can anyone in
Israel find anything for me?

Thank You,

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Searching:
HURWITZ,VOLK, SCHWARTZBERG, LEASHNOFSKY
From: Svencionys,Zelva (Podzelva),Rokiskis, Simferopol (Crimea)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Shvinzian/Svencionys Landsmanshaft #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

The Shvinzian Landsmanshaft of Israel published a yizkor in 1965. I
have not been able to find any information on the persons responsible
for putting the book together. I am most interested in finding
information on Heschel HURWITZ who wrote most of the articles. The
Shvinzian yizkor book is 2000 pages (670 for Shvinzian, the rest for 23
surrounding communities). I find it hard to believe that no information
can be had on the history of the people that produced it. Can anyone in
Israel find anything for me?

Thank You,

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Searching:
HURWITZ,VOLK, SCHWARTZBERG, LEASHNOFSKY
From: Svencionys,Zelva (Podzelva),Rokiskis, Simferopol (Crimea)