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Addresses for Research of Auschwitz and Vilna (Vilnius) #general

Lou Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear JGENers
I hope this will be a help to some of you. Tom Venetianer wrote: I just

received a letter >from the Auschwitz
Museum, containing quite detailed data about the fate of 7 of my close
relatives. It took about 3 mths to
reply to my request. Here is the procedure:
01. Don't send email. They will NOT reply. ...


One of my cousins who just spent 6 months in Vilnius sent this: There
is no
E-Mail for the people in Vilnius. I paid an organization there to do the
investigation. To contact them the address and phone number are:
Galina Baranova
Lithuanian State Historical Archives
Gerosios Vilties 10
2009 Vilnius Lithuania

Telephone: 638375 Fax (370 2) 237612
Shalom
Louis A. Fine Tacoma WA <loufine@juno.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Addresses for Research of Auschwitz and Vilna (Vilnius) #general

Lou Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear JGENers
I hope this will be a help to some of you. Tom Venetianer wrote: I just

received a letter >from the Auschwitz
Museum, containing quite detailed data about the fate of 7 of my close
relatives. It took about 3 mths to
reply to my request. Here is the procedure:
01. Don't send email. They will NOT reply. ...


One of my cousins who just spent 6 months in Vilnius sent this: There
is no
E-Mail for the people in Vilnius. I paid an organization there to do the
investigation. To contact them the address and phone number are:
Galina Baranova
Lithuanian State Historical Archives
Gerosios Vilties 10
2009 Vilnius Lithuania

Telephone: 638375 Fax (370 2) 237612
Shalom
Louis A. Fine Tacoma WA <loufine@juno.com>


Question regarding age in documents #general

Lilifam@...
 

I have just received the translation of some certificates >from Poland. They
refer to 2 different families, but the same problem occurs in both families:
the ages are definitely incorrect. For example, the father was 28 years old
when his first child was born, and when the second was born a year and a half
later he was 26. And other occurances of the same kind.

So here's my question: can we suppose that the age given in the marriage
certificate is more accurate than the ones given on the birth certificates of
the person's children? I am assuming that when a man got married, all his
documents or other information were checked, and maybe when they registered a
child, this was not that important. Can I assume this?

Thanks for your comments, and Chag Sameach,

Sandra Lilienthal
Woodway, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question regarding age in documents #general

Lilifam@...
 

I have just received the translation of some certificates >from Poland. They
refer to 2 different families, but the same problem occurs in both families:
the ages are definitely incorrect. For example, the father was 28 years old
when his first child was born, and when the second was born a year and a half
later he was 26. And other occurances of the same kind.

So here's my question: can we suppose that the age given in the marriage
certificate is more accurate than the ones given on the birth certificates of
the person's children? I am assuming that when a man got married, all his
documents or other information were checked, and maybe when they registered a
child, this was not that important. Can I assume this?

Thanks for your comments, and Chag Sameach,

Sandra Lilienthal
Woodway, TX


Q: What are banns? #general

Lilifam@...
 

On my gg-grandparent's marriage certificate, it is written:

"... declared that before them today (sixteenth day of February)
was performed a religious marriage between "a" and "b", which was
preceded by three banns, on the twenty-first and twenty-eighth days
of January and the fourth day of February of the current year, in
the district synagogues of Wislica and Pinczow..."

What were these banns? Where can I find more information about this?

Thanks in advance, Chag Sameach,

Sandra Lilienthal
Woodway, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Q: What are banns? #general

Lilifam@...
 

On my gg-grandparent's marriage certificate, it is written:

"... declared that before them today (sixteenth day of February)
was performed a religious marriage between "a" and "b", which was
preceded by three banns, on the twenty-first and twenty-eighth days
of January and the fourth day of February of the current year, in
the district synagogues of Wislica and Pinczow..."

What were these banns? Where can I find more information about this?

Thanks in advance, Chag Sameach,

Sandra Lilienthal
Woodway, TX


Re: Large Railway Accident - East Coast 1940's early 1950's #general

Martin Miller <millerm@...>
 

I didn't see the original message, but if you're looking for the LIRR crash,
it took place on 11/28/1950. A relative of ours was killed, and this was the
clue to finding a whole branch of the family.

Martin Miller in Syracuse, NY
mailto:millerm@mailbox.syr.edu
http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/index.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Large Railway Accident - East Coast 1940's early 1950's #general

Martin Miller <millerm@...>
 

I didn't see the original message, but if you're looking for the LIRR crash,
it took place on 11/28/1950. A relative of ours was killed, and this was the
clue to finding a whole branch of the family.

Martin Miller in Syracuse, NY
mailto:millerm@mailbox.syr.edu
http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/index.htm


beadles at schuls and otherwise #general

Candice Bradley and Daniel Byrne <djbyrne@...>
 

I did not know that there were Jewish versions of beadles -- very
interesting. FYI, there's a well known reference to a British beadle
in Virginia Woolf's "A Room of One's Own." This beadle informed the
narrator that she had stepped on forbidden turf. His role was that of
rule keeper: "[H]e was a Beadle; I was a woman. This was the turf;
there was the path. Only the Fellows and Scholars are allowed here; the
gravel is the place for me." She described him as "a curious-looking
object, in a cut-away coat and evening shirt . . . His face expressed
horror and indignation."

I teach at a small private nonsectarian college in Wisconsin where we
have a modern day version of a beadle. Male or female, our
beadle-equivalent is a high-ranking professor who organizes and leads
the capped-and-gowned faculty into the "chapel" for convocations. This
professor wields a silver staff which is used to direct our march; she
also directs seating and signals when to stand, sit, remove one's cap
and retreat. The role is symbolic and ceremonial, and functions to
preserve order and tradition.

Is the role of a beadle in a schul also about enforcing rules and
keeping order and tradition?

Candice Bradley
Appleton WI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen beadles at schuls and otherwise #general

Candice Bradley and Daniel Byrne <djbyrne@...>
 

I did not know that there were Jewish versions of beadles -- very
interesting. FYI, there's a well known reference to a British beadle
in Virginia Woolf's "A Room of One's Own." This beadle informed the
narrator that she had stepped on forbidden turf. His role was that of
rule keeper: "[H]e was a Beadle; I was a woman. This was the turf;
there was the path. Only the Fellows and Scholars are allowed here; the
gravel is the place for me." She described him as "a curious-looking
object, in a cut-away coat and evening shirt . . . His face expressed
horror and indignation."

I teach at a small private nonsectarian college in Wisconsin where we
have a modern day version of a beadle. Male or female, our
beadle-equivalent is a high-ranking professor who organizes and leads
the capped-and-gowned faculty into the "chapel" for convocations. This
professor wields a silver staff which is used to direct our march; she
also directs seating and signals when to stand, sit, remove one's cap
and retreat. The role is symbolic and ceremonial, and functions to
preserve order and tradition.

Is the role of a beadle in a schul also about enforcing rules and
keeping order and tradition?

Candice Bradley
Appleton WI


GAMBURGER/Hamburger #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-10 23:37:05 EDT, zeppo@zeppo.demon.co.uk writes:

<< GAMBURGER family (later changed to HAMBURG when arriving in
England)originally >from Svinsan near Vilna in Russia.

There is no H in Russian. G is often substituted. And a Russian G often
becomes a Heh in Yiddish. Looks like Hamburger was the original name. It's
always worth looking at names in Eastern Europe whether replacing G by H, or
Heh by G, might not make more sense.


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GAMBURGER/Hamburger #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-10 23:37:05 EDT, zeppo@zeppo.demon.co.uk writes:

<< GAMBURGER family (later changed to HAMBURG when arriving in
England)originally >from Svinsan near Vilna in Russia.

There is no H in Russian. G is often substituted. And a Russian G often
becomes a Heh in Yiddish. Looks like Hamburger was the original name. It's
always worth looking at names in Eastern Europe whether replacing G by H, or
Heh by G, might not make more sense.


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


Re: Munkacs now Mukachevo, Ukraine #general

cohentalk@...
 

Today I was given a bit of information I would like to check with others.
In Munkacs, Hungary, >from about 1936 to 1944, there was an area called Jewish
Street.
Is anyone familiar with this? Did the street have another name too?
My great grandparents Leopold KATZ and Raizl WEISS-KATZ and their sons
Abraham/Adolph KATZ, born 1882, and Phillip KATZ, born 1895, lived at Jewish
Street.
I don't know if other members of the family lived there also.

Thanks to everyone for your time and help.

Linda Cohen ~ cohentalk@aol.com ~ MichiganUSA
KATZ, EISENBERG,WEISS >from Munkacs and Zsuko
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Vladymir and Uchanska
EPSTEIN and ROTHMAN >from Nevolozh and Slutsk


1999 Conference on Jewish Genealogy - Request for Program Proposals #general

JCYMBLER@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, invites interested genealogists
to submit proposals for lectures at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held >from August 8- 13, 1999 at the Marriot Marquis Hotel in
New York City. While we are contacting potential speakers and have received
confirmations for more than half of the program, we would welcome additional
program offerings >from the rest of the genealogical community. Many of you
have experience and knowledge that would be of great interest to others and
make for an interesting lecture presentation. If you are interested in
presenting a lecture at the seminar, please submit the following information.

-A brief description of the proposed program, not to exceed one page of length
- A biographical description, including your professional work and
genealogical experience -- a list of any genealogical lectured that you have
recently given, specifying the society.

We will have several programming themes at the conference, including New York
Repositories, New York Research, The Immigration Process, Unusual Sources,
Back to the Old Country (you name it and we will have it), You and Your
Family, Methodology, Bridge to the 21st Century, Jewish Genetic Diseases,
Sephardic Research, Landsmanshaften Records, Rabbinic Genealogy, Holocaust
Research and Computer Research. We will accept and consider program proposals
on any subject; your proposal need not fit into one of the categories above.
We are trying to present a diverse group of lectures that will fulfill the
needs and satisfy the interests of genealogists with a wide range of
experience and interests.

We will accept program proposals until December 31, 1998. Program proposals
will be evaluated by the conference programming committee, and acceptance will
be based on the relevance of the topic, whetther the topic is already covered
by confirmed speakers, and the proposed speaker's experience.

We look forward to reading your program proposals and hope to see all of you
at the next summer conference.

Please send your information to:

Jeffrey Cymbler
<jcymbler@aol.com>

or by snail mail to:

Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc.
600 West End Avenue, Suite 10F
New York, NY 10024

More information regarding the conference will be posted on JewishGen in the
near future. Otherwise, you may contact the conference board at
<nyc99conf@aol.com>


Re: Harbin China #general

West24th <west24th@...>
 

When interviewing an elderly aunt, she suddenly remembered as a young girl
hearing about a great uncle & his family going to Harbin China around the
1920s. She doesn't exactly rember which family name it was, but probably
TEPLITSKY, MALLAMANT or BERG. They were >from the area of Mogilev Podolskiy in
the Ukraine. The only other thing about the family remembered is that they had
a daughter who later went to study music in San Francisco USA. if any of this
should sound at all familiar to anybody please e-mail me directly. Thanks for
any suggestions in hunting this branch down.

Regards
Howard Sedlitz, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Munkacs now Mukachevo, Ukraine #general

cohentalk@...
 

Today I was given a bit of information I would like to check with others.
In Munkacs, Hungary, >from about 1936 to 1944, there was an area called Jewish
Street.
Is anyone familiar with this? Did the street have another name too?
My great grandparents Leopold KATZ and Raizl WEISS-KATZ and their sons
Abraham/Adolph KATZ, born 1882, and Phillip KATZ, born 1895, lived at Jewish
Street.
I don't know if other members of the family lived there also.

Thanks to everyone for your time and help.

Linda Cohen ~ cohentalk@aol.com ~ MichiganUSA
KATZ, EISENBERG,WEISS >from Munkacs and Zsuko
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Vladymir and Uchanska
EPSTEIN and ROTHMAN >from Nevolozh and Slutsk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1999 Conference on Jewish Genealogy - Request for Program Proposals #general

JCYMBLER@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, invites interested genealogists
to submit proposals for lectures at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held >from August 8- 13, 1999 at the Marriot Marquis Hotel in
New York City. While we are contacting potential speakers and have received
confirmations for more than half of the program, we would welcome additional
program offerings >from the rest of the genealogical community. Many of you
have experience and knowledge that would be of great interest to others and
make for an interesting lecture presentation. If you are interested in
presenting a lecture at the seminar, please submit the following information.

-A brief description of the proposed program, not to exceed one page of length
- A biographical description, including your professional work and
genealogical experience -- a list of any genealogical lectured that you have
recently given, specifying the society.

We will have several programming themes at the conference, including New York
Repositories, New York Research, The Immigration Process, Unusual Sources,
Back to the Old Country (you name it and we will have it), You and Your
Family, Methodology, Bridge to the 21st Century, Jewish Genetic Diseases,
Sephardic Research, Landsmanshaften Records, Rabbinic Genealogy, Holocaust
Research and Computer Research. We will accept and consider program proposals
on any subject; your proposal need not fit into one of the categories above.
We are trying to present a diverse group of lectures that will fulfill the
needs and satisfy the interests of genealogists with a wide range of
experience and interests.

We will accept program proposals until December 31, 1998. Program proposals
will be evaluated by the conference programming committee, and acceptance will
be based on the relevance of the topic, whetther the topic is already covered
by confirmed speakers, and the proposed speaker's experience.

We look forward to reading your program proposals and hope to see all of you
at the next summer conference.

Please send your information to:

Jeffrey Cymbler
<jcymbler@aol.com>

or by snail mail to:

Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc.
600 West End Avenue, Suite 10F
New York, NY 10024

More information regarding the conference will be posted on JewishGen in the
near future. Otherwise, you may contact the conference board at
<nyc99conf@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Harbin China #general

West24th <west24th@...>
 

When interviewing an elderly aunt, she suddenly remembered as a young girl
hearing about a great uncle & his family going to Harbin China around the
1920s. She doesn't exactly rember which family name it was, but probably
TEPLITSKY, MALLAMANT or BERG. They were >from the area of Mogilev Podolskiy in
the Ukraine. The only other thing about the family remembered is that they had
a daughter who later went to study music in San Francisco USA. if any of this
should sound at all familiar to anybody please e-mail me directly. Thanks for
any suggestions in hunting this branch down.

Regards
Howard Sedlitz, New York


Help with Naturalization #general

Foodphile@...
 

I've been very lucky at the FHC here in L.A., to receive information from
some very knowledable and giving people who have taught me so much about
taking advantage of the extensive information available to us. I've just
spent two days in SLC and realized that there is so much more I don't know.
Being part of this list also makes that clear on a daily basis. Rather than
post and ask for lookup favors, I would like to learn how to accomplish this
myself. I would very much appreicate it if someone would contact me directly
to answer some specific questions, procedure for finding Naturalization Papers
being only part of what I'm looking for. Thanks very much.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
Searching:
DUNITZ (DUNETZ) Kovel, Russia, SALTZMAN Kovel, Russia, KETCHMAN Russia
KELLNER Oustra-Polia, SUBMAN Oustra-Polia, HIRSCH (HIRSH) Grybow, Poland
LEDER (LEDERER) Ryglic, Galicia, GOLD Russia, SPERBER, SHEIER Galicia,


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Naturalization #general

Foodphile@...
 

I've been very lucky at the FHC here in L.A., to receive information from
some very knowledable and giving people who have taught me so much about
taking advantage of the extensive information available to us. I've just
spent two days in SLC and realized that there is so much more I don't know.
Being part of this list also makes that clear on a daily basis. Rather than
post and ask for lookup favors, I would like to learn how to accomplish this
myself. I would very much appreicate it if someone would contact me directly
to answer some specific questions, procedure for finding Naturalization Papers
being only part of what I'm looking for. Thanks very much.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
Searching:
DUNITZ (DUNETZ) Kovel, Russia, SALTZMAN Kovel, Russia, KETCHMAN Russia
KELLNER Oustra-Polia, SUBMAN Oustra-Polia, HIRSCH (HIRSH) Grybow, Poland
LEDER (LEDERER) Ryglic, Galicia, GOLD Russia, SPERBER, SHEIER Galicia,