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* LDS film numbers for Slovakia #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Jgenners,

Has anybody seen or is in the possession of a complete listing of LDS films
numbers covering towns/villages in Slovakia? My local FHC has only one
computer, only one sister operating it, one can not use it and do searches.
It's really a pain to try to find a film number there, so such list would
be very helpful to me, probably to other people searching this particular
country too. Please reply in private.

Many thanks in advance,
chag Simhat Torah sameach to all
Tom


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen * LDS film numbers for Slovakia #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Jgenners,

Has anybody seen or is in the possession of a complete listing of LDS films
numbers covering towns/villages in Slovakia? My local FHC has only one
computer, only one sister operating it, one can not use it and do searches.
It's really a pain to try to find a film number there, so such list would
be very helpful to me, probably to other people searching this particular
country too. Please reply in private.

Many thanks in advance,
chag Simhat Torah sameach to all
Tom


Mogilev: PERCHERSKY #belarus

dardasht@...
 

In response to Myra Davis:
my grandmother Sarah
Perchersky came form MOGILEV. My father Henry Davis was the youngest
grandfather was a Cantor.
Thank you for any help you can give.
Dear Myra:
>from the transliterated index of births of baby boys in Mogilev,
listed by father's name only, 1864-1894, I find the following. For more
information, you must go to the actual seven roll series of microfilm,
Crown Rabbinate Records of Mogilev, available at LDS family history
centers. Again, these are the names of the fathers of baby boys only, a
transliterated partial index found on roll #5 of the 7-roll series.

1871: PICHERSKI Leizer-Ber
1873: PICHERSKI Minashe, PICHERSKI Leizer-Ber, PICHERKI Berka,
1876: PECHERSKER Borukh, PECHERSKI Berka
1877: PECHERSKER Borukh, PECHERSKIN Leizer-Berka
1879: PECHERSKI Itska
1880: PICHERSKIN Elia-Itska, PERCHONOK Yankel-Berka
1881: PERCHIN Afroim, PECHERSKI Leib-Itska
1883: PECHERKIN Leizer-Berka, PECHERSKER Mikhel,
1886: PICHERSKIN Shmuil-Berka, PICHERSKER Mikhel, PICHKIN Mordukuh,
PECHERSKIN Leizer-Ber, PECHERSKI Leivik-Itska
1888: PECHERSKIN Shmuil-Ber
1889: PERSKIN Leiba, PRISTAN Elia and 3 PLECHSHITZER
1890: PECHERSKIN Gamshei
1891: PICHKIN, Mordukh, PEVCHIN Rafael
1892: PECHERSKI Isroil-Berka, PECHERSKI, Mikhel,
1893: PECHERSKIN Isroil-Berka

Myra, the index was transliterated by Mogilev immigrant (now in Booklyn),
Bella Nayer, and we hope to eventually get the index online. The spelling
of most of the names varies according to how the recorder heard it, or
how the respondent gave the information. I also included some which might
or might not be the same name, allowing for mistakes in the writing.
Because there are so many male babies born with this name, the sevenroll
series could be a goldmine for you in trying to locate your grandmother.

For the benefit of all, who have written to me after accessing the
records asking why they are not in English (!!!!), the records are
written in facing pages, left-hand Russian, right-hand Hebrew/yiddish
(depending on year and handwriting, some very good, some horrible). To
make sure you are getting all the information, it helps to be able to
read both languages or have some one with you that does. Sometimes the
pages on one side or the other have some sort of damage, meaning you must
extract as much as you can in the other language.

The actual birth records (marriage, divorce, death are also included in
the series) will give you the following (for girls and boys): baby's name
and birthdate (Hebrew and Russian), father's name and his father's name,
mother's name and her father's name, sometimes occupations of one or
both, place fo residence if not Mogilev (resident of ......), the
recorder of the birth (usually mohel if boy). Names vary on both sides of
the page, Russian variants sometimes in russian, Jewish in
Hebrew/Yiddish.

The records are a goldmine of information for anyone with Mogilev roots.
There is a list of Russian Synagogue Personnel available on the net, by
Bert Lazarow of UCSan Diego. Haven't checked it, you might want to see if
your names are on it.

INFORMATION FOR MOGILEV SEARCHERS: The main concentrations of Mogilevers
in America were in Newark, NJ; Boston and Springfield, Mass.; Chicago,
Ill.; Detroit, Mich. (also in Windsor, Ontario Canada --just across the
border >from Detroit); Philadelphia area. These the largest concentrations
I have found, with Mogilever societies, cemeteries, sometimes synagogues.
Obviously there were many other areas with smaller Mogilever communities,
not as prominent. And of course don't discount Florida, where many may
have eventually retired. Outside of USA, check England, and of course
Israel for both old (pre-1948) and new Mogilev immigrants (last 10
years). Australia has received new Mogilev immigrants as well.

Schelly TALALAY Dardashti
MOGILEV FAMILIES: TALALAY (USA: TOLLIN, TALLIN, TOLL, TALL, TAYLOR)
YASSIN/JASSEN, KONVISER, KORE, MITTLEMAN, LURIA, BERLIN, ROGOVER,
SHULMAN, BOOKBINDER, MENUHIN, RUBINOVA, STAROSELSKY, ALTSHULER,
MERLS/MERLIN, MINKEN/MUENSTER, SINKEVICH, DINICH, DININ/DONIN, KAGAN.
Also village of Vorotinshtina, about 18 km ssw of Mogilev city. Also
DISKIN of Lupalov (southern area of Mogilev City to Detroit).


Belarus SIG #Belarus Mogilev: PERCHERSKY #belarus

dardasht@...
 

In response to Myra Davis:
my grandmother Sarah
Perchersky came form MOGILEV. My father Henry Davis was the youngest
grandfather was a Cantor.
Thank you for any help you can give.
Dear Myra:
>from the transliterated index of births of baby boys in Mogilev,
listed by father's name only, 1864-1894, I find the following. For more
information, you must go to the actual seven roll series of microfilm,
Crown Rabbinate Records of Mogilev, available at LDS family history
centers. Again, these are the names of the fathers of baby boys only, a
transliterated partial index found on roll #5 of the 7-roll series.

1871: PICHERSKI Leizer-Ber
1873: PICHERSKI Minashe, PICHERSKI Leizer-Ber, PICHERKI Berka,
1876: PECHERSKER Borukh, PECHERSKI Berka
1877: PECHERSKER Borukh, PECHERSKIN Leizer-Berka
1879: PECHERSKI Itska
1880: PICHERSKIN Elia-Itska, PERCHONOK Yankel-Berka
1881: PERCHIN Afroim, PECHERSKI Leib-Itska
1883: PECHERKIN Leizer-Berka, PECHERSKER Mikhel,
1886: PICHERSKIN Shmuil-Berka, PICHERSKER Mikhel, PICHKIN Mordukuh,
PECHERSKIN Leizer-Ber, PECHERSKI Leivik-Itska
1888: PECHERSKIN Shmuil-Ber
1889: PERSKIN Leiba, PRISTAN Elia and 3 PLECHSHITZER
1890: PECHERSKIN Gamshei
1891: PICHKIN, Mordukh, PEVCHIN Rafael
1892: PECHERSKI Isroil-Berka, PECHERSKI, Mikhel,
1893: PECHERSKIN Isroil-Berka

Myra, the index was transliterated by Mogilev immigrant (now in Booklyn),
Bella Nayer, and we hope to eventually get the index online. The spelling
of most of the names varies according to how the recorder heard it, or
how the respondent gave the information. I also included some which might
or might not be the same name, allowing for mistakes in the writing.
Because there are so many male babies born with this name, the sevenroll
series could be a goldmine for you in trying to locate your grandmother.

For the benefit of all, who have written to me after accessing the
records asking why they are not in English (!!!!), the records are
written in facing pages, left-hand Russian, right-hand Hebrew/yiddish
(depending on year and handwriting, some very good, some horrible). To
make sure you are getting all the information, it helps to be able to
read both languages or have some one with you that does. Sometimes the
pages on one side or the other have some sort of damage, meaning you must
extract as much as you can in the other language.

The actual birth records (marriage, divorce, death are also included in
the series) will give you the following (for girls and boys): baby's name
and birthdate (Hebrew and Russian), father's name and his father's name,
mother's name and her father's name, sometimes occupations of one or
both, place fo residence if not Mogilev (resident of ......), the
recorder of the birth (usually mohel if boy). Names vary on both sides of
the page, Russian variants sometimes in russian, Jewish in
Hebrew/Yiddish.

The records are a goldmine of information for anyone with Mogilev roots.
There is a list of Russian Synagogue Personnel available on the net, by
Bert Lazarow of UCSan Diego. Haven't checked it, you might want to see if
your names are on it.

INFORMATION FOR MOGILEV SEARCHERS: The main concentrations of Mogilevers
in America were in Newark, NJ; Boston and Springfield, Mass.; Chicago,
Ill.; Detroit, Mich. (also in Windsor, Ontario Canada --just across the
border >from Detroit); Philadelphia area. These the largest concentrations
I have found, with Mogilever societies, cemeteries, sometimes synagogues.
Obviously there were many other areas with smaller Mogilever communities,
not as prominent. And of course don't discount Florida, where many may
have eventually retired. Outside of USA, check England, and of course
Israel for both old (pre-1948) and new Mogilev immigrants (last 10
years). Australia has received new Mogilev immigrants as well.

Schelly TALALAY Dardashti
MOGILEV FAMILIES: TALALAY (USA: TOLLIN, TALLIN, TOLL, TALL, TAYLOR)
YASSIN/JASSEN, KONVISER, KORE, MITTLEMAN, LURIA, BERLIN, ROGOVER,
SHULMAN, BOOKBINDER, MENUHIN, RUBINOVA, STAROSELSKY, ALTSHULER,
MERLS/MERLIN, MINKEN/MUENSTER, SINKEVICH, DINICH, DININ/DONIN, KAGAN.
Also village of Vorotinshtina, about 18 km ssw of Mogilev city. Also
DISKIN of Lupalov (southern area of Mogilev City to Detroit).


Shtetls East of Vitebsk #belarus

Risa E Heywood <risah@...>
 

In response to the post by Hal Maggied who said:

... Usvyaty, Velizh, Surazh, Koprevah, Berezhukhah, and other points along
the river bottoms and their hinterlands. These shtetlakh were situated
about 80 to 100 miles >from Vitebsk. Are we covered?


I also have family who lived outside of present-day Belarus in Surazh and
Uneca. The Belarus in Belarus SIG is meant to convey the general area that
we are covering and we would be happy to include information on those towns
just east of Belarus.

We are definitely lacking in material about the Mogilev and Vitebsk
gubernii. If you have any information, photos, etc. please contact me so we
can include it on our web site.

Risa Heywood
Risah@ibm.net
Belarus SIG Webmaster

Researching:
TEITZEL - Gomel, Uneca, Dnepopetrovsk
LOCKSHIN - Surazh, Kanichi
BORISSOF - Gomel
SHIFRIN - Zembin
FEDYUK - Lyakhovichi


Belarus SIG #Belarus Shtetls East of Vitebsk #belarus

Risa E Heywood <risah@...>
 

In response to the post by Hal Maggied who said:

... Usvyaty, Velizh, Surazh, Koprevah, Berezhukhah, and other points along
the river bottoms and their hinterlands. These shtetlakh were situated
about 80 to 100 miles >from Vitebsk. Are we covered?


I also have family who lived outside of present-day Belarus in Surazh and
Uneca. The Belarus in Belarus SIG is meant to convey the general area that
we are covering and we would be happy to include information on those towns
just east of Belarus.

We are definitely lacking in material about the Mogilev and Vitebsk
gubernii. If you have any information, photos, etc. please contact me so we
can include it on our web site.

Risa Heywood
Risah@ibm.net
Belarus SIG Webmaster

Researching:
TEITZEL - Gomel, Uneca, Dnepopetrovsk
LOCKSHIN - Surazh, Kanichi
BORISSOF - Gomel
SHIFRIN - Zembin
FEDYUK - Lyakhovichi


Re: Help: Family Relationships #belarus

myrabokpg@...
 

I have gotten many messages but nothing relating to MOGILEV or BYKHOV.
My grandfather Jonah Dvoskin came >from BYKHOV and my grandmother Sarah
Perchersky came form MOGILEV. My father Henry Davis was the youngest of
7 children all born in Mogilev. He died in 1935 so I have very little
information about the Russian relatives. All his sisters and brothers
are now gone. Jonah changed the name to Davis. Some of them went to
Canada first and then to Chicago. Can anyone help with searching out
this family?
David Fox listed a book a few weeks back that listed Mogilev Synagogues
and cemeteries but I was changing computers and lost the information.
Can you sent it to me and would it have lists of people in English? My
grandfather was a Cantor.
Thank you for any help you can give.

Myra S. Davis
myrabokpg@juno.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Help: Family Relationships #belarus

myrabokpg@...
 

I have gotten many messages but nothing relating to MOGILEV or BYKHOV.
My grandfather Jonah Dvoskin came >from BYKHOV and my grandmother Sarah
Perchersky came form MOGILEV. My father Henry Davis was the youngest of
7 children all born in Mogilev. He died in 1935 so I have very little
information about the Russian relatives. All his sisters and brothers
are now gone. Jonah changed the name to Davis. Some of them went to
Canada first and then to Chicago. Can anyone help with searching out
this family?
David Fox listed a book a few weeks back that listed Mogilev Synagogues
and cemeteries but I was changing computers and lost the information.
Can you sent it to me and would it have lists of people in English? My
grandfather was a Cantor.
Thank you for any help you can give.

Myra S. Davis
myrabokpg@juno.com


Jerry Fogler - Email bounced #general

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

Sorry to use this forum, but I need to get in touch with Jerry Fogler,who
posted a message about Bobrka back in August. His email bounces. If
anyone knows/is in touch with him, please let me know. I have info for
him.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jerry Fogler - Email bounced #general

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

Sorry to use this forum, but I need to get in touch with Jerry Fogler,who
posted a message about Bobrka back in August. His email bounces. If
anyone knows/is in touch with him, please let me know. I have info for
him.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel


Searching: EDELSON, GREENBERG, SCHENKER, & CASS #general

Bob Edelson <bedelson@...>
 

This is my first post to any newsgroup, let alone this one, so if I post
incorrectly, please chalk it up to inexperience.

I'm looking for family records for EDELSON, GREENBERG, SCHENKER, & CASS:

My great-grandfather was Bernard EDELSON. He came >from Lithuania, sometime
in the late 1800s. He was a painter, specializing in gold gilt, and had a
painting company in Brooklyn. He married Lena (Margaret) GREENBERG in New
York. He had one son - Samuel - born in approximately 1898. Samuel's
original name was Robert, but he changed it during WWI. Lena died in
childbirth when Samuel was a toddler, and she was buried in the Brooklyn
Jewish Cemetery (?). Lena's family owned a brewery in New York.

Bernard went blind and had other ailments, and travelled back to Europe
sometime before 1910, where he eventually died.

After Bernard went back to Europe, Samuel was placed in the Brooklyn Hebrew
Orphan Asylum, attended public school and synagogue nearby. Then went into
the Army where he served in France during WWI. After the war, he went west,
married, and worked all over the country as a waiter in major hotels.

Bernard had five brothers & one sister
Morris - New Jersey
Jack - New Jersey (owned a jewelry store)
Leon - New Jersey
Max - Chicago (owned a printing shop on Avers Ave.), then moved to L.A.
??? - travelled to Africa - his first name is unknown.
Libby SCHENKER (sp?)-San Francisco

There is also a tie to the SCHENKER who was instrumental in organizing the
teacher's union in New York City. My grandfather - Samuel - stayed with him
for a while after he left the orphanage.

Lena had siblings - I don't know the details. There were two cousins -
"the CASS sisters" - who owned a millinary shop in Jacksonville, Florida.

Being brand new to the practice of genealogy, any assistance or ideas would
be welcome. We will be writing the Jewish Child Care Association for records >from the Orphan Asylum, and I'm going to search at the American Jewish Archives here in Cincinnati.

Thanks in advance for any help.


Robert B. Edelson Jr.
bedelson@one.net


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please check the information available at JewishGen
www.jewishgen.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: EDELSON, GREENBERG, SCHENKER, & CASS #general

Bob Edelson <bedelson@...>
 

This is my first post to any newsgroup, let alone this one, so if I post
incorrectly, please chalk it up to inexperience.

I'm looking for family records for EDELSON, GREENBERG, SCHENKER, & CASS:

My great-grandfather was Bernard EDELSON. He came >from Lithuania, sometime
in the late 1800s. He was a painter, specializing in gold gilt, and had a
painting company in Brooklyn. He married Lena (Margaret) GREENBERG in New
York. He had one son - Samuel - born in approximately 1898. Samuel's
original name was Robert, but he changed it during WWI. Lena died in
childbirth when Samuel was a toddler, and she was buried in the Brooklyn
Jewish Cemetery (?). Lena's family owned a brewery in New York.

Bernard went blind and had other ailments, and travelled back to Europe
sometime before 1910, where he eventually died.

After Bernard went back to Europe, Samuel was placed in the Brooklyn Hebrew
Orphan Asylum, attended public school and synagogue nearby. Then went into
the Army where he served in France during WWI. After the war, he went west,
married, and worked all over the country as a waiter in major hotels.

Bernard had five brothers & one sister
Morris - New Jersey
Jack - New Jersey (owned a jewelry store)
Leon - New Jersey
Max - Chicago (owned a printing shop on Avers Ave.), then moved to L.A.
??? - travelled to Africa - his first name is unknown.
Libby SCHENKER (sp?)-San Francisco

There is also a tie to the SCHENKER who was instrumental in organizing the
teacher's union in New York City. My grandfather - Samuel - stayed with him
for a while after he left the orphanage.

Lena had siblings - I don't know the details. There were two cousins -
"the CASS sisters" - who owned a millinary shop in Jacksonville, Florida.

Being brand new to the practice of genealogy, any assistance or ideas would
be welcome. We will be writing the Jewish Child Care Association for records >from the Orphan Asylum, and I'm going to search at the American Jewish Archives here in Cincinnati.

Thanks in advance for any help.


Robert B. Edelson Jr.
bedelson@one.net


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please check the information available at JewishGen
www.jewishgen.org


Searching: ZABARTE, Navarra, Spain #general

Lemuel G. Abarte <lemuel@...>
 

I am looking for family ties in Navarra, Spain for my ancestors ZABARTE/ABARTE in the area. Any help is highly appreciated.
Regards,

Lemuel


Volpa, Belarus (in Grodno Gubernia) #general

Robert Meyer <BobEllen@...>
 

Do any Jewish Genners have a clue as to whether Volpa, a small
shtetl in the gubernia of Grodo, could be "Walf, Grodno" on the
naturalization papers of my grandfather, Moses SHERESHEVSKY (Shaffer), as
his place of birth? I am stymied by the "Walf" and what it could possibly
mean. I can find no shtetl with that name, but do know that "Volpa" could
mean "wolf" (at least, I believe, in Italian and possibly other languages).

Thank you.

Ellen Shaffer Meyer
Wilmington, Delaware
bobellen@compuserve.com

Searching:SHERESHEVSKY >from Grodno, Augustow, Tauragge or Slonim, Belarus;
THALENFELD/TALENFELD >from Kalish, Galicia; FEUERMANN from
Kolomea, Slovakia; THOMBACHER /THOMBERG, FINKELSTEIN and KATZENELLENBOGEN

from Augustow; ZALLE and GOLDSTEIN >from Slovakia;


The Beadle and the Shammes and how they differ #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-11 21:20:23 EDT, djbyrne@athenet.net writes:

<< Is the role of a beadle in a schul also about enforcing rules and
keeping order and tradition? >>

==No, a beadle is a beadle. British, church and law court. A low-ranking
officer with certain fairly routine duties.

==Hebrew has Shamash, (Yiddish: Shammes), who pens the schul, lights the
lamps, cleans the silver, mends the books, invites members to the reading of
the Torah, reminds them of Yahrzeit, often leads morning and evening prayers
when it's not shabbat or Festival, collects fees and donations. All at the
request of the rabbi, president or treasurer of the schul. 19th Century
British Jews, who felt uncomfortable at being thought too unBritish, termed
the "Shammes" the "Beadle."

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


Kiev gubernia voter lists on microfilms. #general

Vcharny@...
 

While I was in Boston last month I had a chance to spend couple hours at
Harvard in the microfilms library. I new that there are microfilms with
copy of the old Russian official newspaper -- "Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti".
All my and my wife's ancestors lived during XIXc in Minsk Gubernia and only
one my grandmother was born in Dymer, Kiev Gubernia to the ALPERT/POLONSKY
family.

I hoped to find the voters list for elections of State Duma in 1906, 1907
and 1912 of Kiev Gubernia. I found some of the lists but not all of them
and unfortunately there weren=92t records >from Dymer. I check copies of
couple other similar regional editions and situation was the same. The
lists on microfilms not complete.

At least now I know where to look for the lists in such newspapers and what
to expect >from the lists. Nice information was available in the lists of
1905 - not only full name (with patronymic, but not in all cases) but also
reason to be a voter - size of estate or income and in some cases (City of
Kiev) even address. Yes, not every man of 21 and older could be a voter -
you have to pass one of four types of "tsenz" - limitations.

It was interesting that I first time saw in such old papers that people was
written with nationality as ethnic bacground (common things in soviet time)
- people was shown as Jews not by religion (iudei) but by ethnic background
(evrei) along with Russian, Poles, Germans, Tatarians (instead of Orthodox,
Catholic Lutheran, Muslim).

Below I list of some towns of Kiev Gubernia where Jews lived that time (or
have property) and some records available >from the lists possible to find
on the microfilms. Data of some voter lists of 1905.

Zvenigorod[ka] uyezd (district):
Shpolya, Vinograd, Yekaterinopol', Kaligorka,
Ol'shanaya, Lysyanka, Erki (Yerki), Ryzhanovka, Boyarka.

Tarashcha uyezd:
Stavishche, Tetiev, Zhashkov, Lobachov, Voronoe,
Zhivotov, Koshevata, Pyatigory.

Vasil'kov uyezd:
Belaya Tserkov', Fastov, Chigirin, Borova, Trushki,
Ol'shanitsa, Teleshovka, Kazennaya Motovilovka, Ostrov.

Radomysl' uyezd:
Brusilov, Chernobyl' Khabno, Ivankov, Gornostaypol',
Terekhi, Malin, Starovichi,

Skvira uyezd: (where I didn't find my other relatives - Vokhgel't)
Volodarka, Pavoloch, Velikie Golyaki, Yaropovichi, Lipki,
Borshchagovka, Brovki, Ruzhin, Chubintsy, Kharleevka,
Verbov, Popel'nya, Karobchiev, Khodorkov.

Lipovets uyezd:
Kitaugorod, Monastyrishche, Il'intsi, Dashev, Zozov, Zozovka,
Tsybulev, Lukashevka, Sarny, Balabanovka, Kal'nik, Vasilevka,
Todorovka.

Cherkassy uyezd:
Smela, Belozer'ye, Orlovets, Russkaya Vol. (some names shortened),
Raygorod, Vyazovok, Zhabotin, Les'ki, Rotmistrov, Khlystunovka,
Sagulovka, Khudiki, Gorodishche, Mezhirich, Matusov, Mokievka,
Pleskachevka.

Kanev uyezd:
Korsun', Stepantsi, Mironovka, Maslovka, Rssava, Shotok, Nikolaevka,

In 1906 found several lists with corrections, additions, exclusions.

1907 have nice lists for Lipovets uyezd and Uman' uyezd and again
corrections to previous lists etc.

There were just few such documents for 1912.
Lists were issued mainly as addition to newspapers,
and they were possibly missing >from the original set of newspapers?
Corrections were printed in newspapers itself and mostly could be found
on the microfilms, some newspaper issue I didn't find at all.

Besides of voter lists there were other helpful information with a lot of
names: list of killed and wounded >from fronts of Russian-Japanese War,
lists of recruits - deserters (where some probably gone for America),
lists of court jurors, lists of auctioning and many others god to be
documented. But I have no time.

My appreciation to Warren Blatt who help me to find the library
and microfilms location that save me time.

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: ZABARTE, Navarra, Spain #general

Lemuel G. Abarte <lemuel@...>
 

I am looking for family ties in Navarra, Spain for my ancestors ZABARTE/ABARTE in the area. Any help is highly appreciated.
Regards,

Lemuel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Volpa, Belarus (in Grodno Gubernia) #general

Robert Meyer <BobEllen@...>
 

Do any Jewish Genners have a clue as to whether Volpa, a small
shtetl in the gubernia of Grodo, could be "Walf, Grodno" on the
naturalization papers of my grandfather, Moses SHERESHEVSKY (Shaffer), as
his place of birth? I am stymied by the "Walf" and what it could possibly
mean. I can find no shtetl with that name, but do know that "Volpa" could
mean "wolf" (at least, I believe, in Italian and possibly other languages).

Thank you.

Ellen Shaffer Meyer
Wilmington, Delaware
bobellen@compuserve.com

Searching:SHERESHEVSKY >from Grodno, Augustow, Tauragge or Slonim, Belarus;
THALENFELD/TALENFELD >from Kalish, Galicia; FEUERMANN from
Kolomea, Slovakia; THOMBACHER /THOMBERG, FINKELSTEIN and KATZENELLENBOGEN

from Augustow; ZALLE and GOLDSTEIN >from Slovakia;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Beadle and the Shammes and how they differ #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-11 21:20:23 EDT, djbyrne@athenet.net writes:

<< Is the role of a beadle in a schul also about enforcing rules and
keeping order and tradition? >>

==No, a beadle is a beadle. British, church and law court. A low-ranking
officer with certain fairly routine duties.

==Hebrew has Shamash, (Yiddish: Shammes), who pens the schul, lights the
lamps, cleans the silver, mends the books, invites members to the reading of
the Torah, reminds them of Yahrzeit, often leads morning and evening prayers
when it's not shabbat or Festival, collects fees and donations. All at the
request of the rabbi, president or treasurer of the schul. 19th Century
British Jews, who felt uncomfortable at being thought too unBritish, termed
the "Shammes" the "Beadle."

Michael Bernet
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seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kiev gubernia voter lists on microfilms. #general

Vcharny@...
 

While I was in Boston last month I had a chance to spend couple hours at
Harvard in the microfilms library. I new that there are microfilms with
copy of the old Russian official newspaper -- "Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti".
All my and my wife's ancestors lived during XIXc in Minsk Gubernia and only
one my grandmother was born in Dymer, Kiev Gubernia to the ALPERT/POLONSKY
family.

I hoped to find the voters list for elections of State Duma in 1906, 1907
and 1912 of Kiev Gubernia. I found some of the lists but not all of them
and unfortunately there weren=92t records >from Dymer. I check copies of
couple other similar regional editions and situation was the same. The
lists on microfilms not complete.

At least now I know where to look for the lists in such newspapers and what
to expect >from the lists. Nice information was available in the lists of
1905 - not only full name (with patronymic, but not in all cases) but also
reason to be a voter - size of estate or income and in some cases (City of
Kiev) even address. Yes, not every man of 21 and older could be a voter -
you have to pass one of four types of "tsenz" - limitations.

It was interesting that I first time saw in such old papers that people was
written with nationality as ethnic bacground (common things in soviet time)
- people was shown as Jews not by religion (iudei) but by ethnic background
(evrei) along with Russian, Poles, Germans, Tatarians (instead of Orthodox,
Catholic Lutheran, Muslim).

Below I list of some towns of Kiev Gubernia where Jews lived that time (or
have property) and some records available >from the lists possible to find
on the microfilms. Data of some voter lists of 1905.

Zvenigorod[ka] uyezd (district):
Shpolya, Vinograd, Yekaterinopol', Kaligorka,
Ol'shanaya, Lysyanka, Erki (Yerki), Ryzhanovka, Boyarka.

Tarashcha uyezd:
Stavishche, Tetiev, Zhashkov, Lobachov, Voronoe,
Zhivotov, Koshevata, Pyatigory.

Vasil'kov uyezd:
Belaya Tserkov', Fastov, Chigirin, Borova, Trushki,
Ol'shanitsa, Teleshovka, Kazennaya Motovilovka, Ostrov.

Radomysl' uyezd:
Brusilov, Chernobyl' Khabno, Ivankov, Gornostaypol',
Terekhi, Malin, Starovichi,

Skvira uyezd: (where I didn't find my other relatives - Vokhgel't)
Volodarka, Pavoloch, Velikie Golyaki, Yaropovichi, Lipki,
Borshchagovka, Brovki, Ruzhin, Chubintsy, Kharleevka,
Verbov, Popel'nya, Karobchiev, Khodorkov.

Lipovets uyezd:
Kitaugorod, Monastyrishche, Il'intsi, Dashev, Zozov, Zozovka,
Tsybulev, Lukashevka, Sarny, Balabanovka, Kal'nik, Vasilevka,
Todorovka.

Cherkassy uyezd:
Smela, Belozer'ye, Orlovets, Russkaya Vol. (some names shortened),
Raygorod, Vyazovok, Zhabotin, Les'ki, Rotmistrov, Khlystunovka,
Sagulovka, Khudiki, Gorodishche, Mezhirich, Matusov, Mokievka,
Pleskachevka.

Kanev uyezd:
Korsun', Stepantsi, Mironovka, Maslovka, Rssava, Shotok, Nikolaevka,

In 1906 found several lists with corrections, additions, exclusions.

1907 have nice lists for Lipovets uyezd and Uman' uyezd and again
corrections to previous lists etc.

There were just few such documents for 1912.
Lists were issued mainly as addition to newspapers,
and they were possibly missing >from the original set of newspapers?
Corrections were printed in newspapers itself and mostly could be found
on the microfilms, some newspaper issue I didn't find at all.

Besides of voter lists there were other helpful information with a lot of
names: list of killed and wounded >from fronts of Russian-Japanese War,
lists of recruits - deserters (where some probably gone for America),
lists of court jurors, lists of auctioning and many others god to be
documented. But I have no time.

My appreciation to Warren Blatt who help me to find the library
and microfilms location that save me time.

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL