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Searching GLICKLIN -> Bykhov Mogilevsky G'bania #belarus

JudiTomFox@...
 

Re: A lot of us are new to the Belarus SIG as well as being new to the
Internet and E-Mail and do not know what many abbreviations mean. Example
what is MIME?
Also you mention printing out a form on the screen in order to make
donations, by check, to Jewishgen. What form? How do you get to it? What
address does one use?
I am looking for GLICKLIN. My grandfather was Israel GLICKLIN. He came from
the town of Bykhov Mogilevsky G'bania. His father was Hershel Oreh
GLICKLIN,also known as Zvi Aryeh. ISRAEL had 3 brothers and 2 sisters. Two
of the brothers;Sam and Henry GLICKLIN came to the United States and changed
the name to GLICK. One of the sisters ( Merke?) came to the United States and
married a man by the name of Epstein, >from whom she was later divorced. One
brother and a sister remained behind in Bykhov . It is believed that they
were massacred.
Sometimes people have a hard time getting the name GLICKLIN spelled or
pronounced properly so I am interested in any variation of the name: such
as; GLIKIN, GLIKLIN, GLIEKIN, GLICKLIN. GLUCKLIN, etc. Israel was a teacher.
I am interested in any GLICKLIN anywhere in the USA or anywhere in Belarus I
am especially interested in finding out what happened to Sam and Henry GLICK..
If you have any info on Israel GLICKLIN and /or on his 2 brothers Sam &
Henry GLICKplease let me know. Perhaps we can share information on the
GLICKLINS.

Judith Fox
Juditomfox@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching GLICKLIN -> Bykhov Mogilevsky G'bania #belarus

JudiTomFox@...
 

Re: A lot of us are new to the Belarus SIG as well as being new to the
Internet and E-Mail and do not know what many abbreviations mean. Example
what is MIME?
Also you mention printing out a form on the screen in order to make
donations, by check, to Jewishgen. What form? How do you get to it? What
address does one use?
I am looking for GLICKLIN. My grandfather was Israel GLICKLIN. He came from
the town of Bykhov Mogilevsky G'bania. His father was Hershel Oreh
GLICKLIN,also known as Zvi Aryeh. ISRAEL had 3 brothers and 2 sisters. Two
of the brothers;Sam and Henry GLICKLIN came to the United States and changed
the name to GLICK. One of the sisters ( Merke?) came to the United States and
married a man by the name of Epstein, >from whom she was later divorced. One
brother and a sister remained behind in Bykhov . It is believed that they
were massacred.
Sometimes people have a hard time getting the name GLICKLIN spelled or
pronounced properly so I am interested in any variation of the name: such
as; GLIKIN, GLIKLIN, GLIEKIN, GLICKLIN. GLUCKLIN, etc. Israel was a teacher.
I am interested in any GLICKLIN anywhere in the USA or anywhere in Belarus I
am especially interested in finding out what happened to Sam and Henry GLICK..
If you have any info on Israel GLICKLIN and /or on his 2 brothers Sam &
Henry GLICKplease let me know. Perhaps we can share information on the
GLICKLINS.

Judith Fox
Juditomfox@aol.com


Pinsk - Need Info #belarus

MMBegun@...
 

Many of our BEGUN ancestors have said they are >from Pinsk. However, in the
Chicago area cemteries, they are buried in Landmanshaftn groups >from the towns
of Stolin, Telechany and Lahyshin. (The latter has been spelled several
ways.)
These burials are definitely of our relatives.

So, my question is -- if an individual says he/she is >from Pinsk, is it
possible they are referring to the larger region -- such as the other side of
my family who said they were >from Kiev, when in reality they were >from small
town in Kiev guberniya. In Ukraine in the nineteenth century, it was rare
that a Jew could actually live in the city of Kiev, although there have been
exceptions.

Does anyone have more information on the city of Pinsk and its actual Jewish
population?

Is anyone researching these towns: Pinsk, Stolin, Lahyshin, Telechany?
Family names: BEGUN, ROSENBAUM, KRULL, COLODNY, MELCER, MELTZER.

Thanks --
Mila Orlik Begun
N.Y.C.
(MMBegun@aol.com)

Moderator's Note: If you are trying to find out who else is researching
your names or shtetls, you should go to the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)
which is linked to the JewishGen Home page. If you haven't done so
already, you should also add your research information to the JGFF database
so other researchers will be able to find you. Although not a Jewish web
site, there is information about Pinsk at:
<http://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/~serko/heritage/pinsk.html>;


Belarus SIG #Belarus Pinsk - Need Info #belarus

MMBegun@...
 

Many of our BEGUN ancestors have said they are >from Pinsk. However, in the
Chicago area cemteries, they are buried in Landmanshaftn groups >from the towns
of Stolin, Telechany and Lahyshin. (The latter has been spelled several
ways.)
These burials are definitely of our relatives.

So, my question is -- if an individual says he/she is >from Pinsk, is it
possible they are referring to the larger region -- such as the other side of
my family who said they were >from Kiev, when in reality they were >from small
town in Kiev guberniya. In Ukraine in the nineteenth century, it was rare
that a Jew could actually live in the city of Kiev, although there have been
exceptions.

Does anyone have more information on the city of Pinsk and its actual Jewish
population?

Is anyone researching these towns: Pinsk, Stolin, Lahyshin, Telechany?
Family names: BEGUN, ROSENBAUM, KRULL, COLODNY, MELCER, MELTZER.

Thanks --
Mila Orlik Begun
N.Y.C.
(MMBegun@aol.com)

Moderator's Note: If you are trying to find out who else is researching
your names or shtetls, you should go to the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)
which is linked to the JewishGen Home page. If you haven't done so
already, you should also add your research information to the JGFF database
so other researchers will be able to find you. Although not a Jewish web
site, there is information about Pinsk at:
<http://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/~serko/heritage/pinsk.html>;


Hello from Your Bobruisk Colleagues #belarus

Donald Mopsick <mophandl@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG:

Mazel Tov on your launch.

I am the Coordinator (Shammes) of the Bobruisk Interest Group, concentrating on the city and District of
Bobruisk in the Minsk Gubyernie. Bobruisk was an epicenter of Jewish Civilization during most of the 19th
century, with many famous rabbis, yeshivos, Zionists, Bundists, and literary figures originating >from there.

If you have ancestors >from this area, please look at our web page at

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/bobruisk.html

and avail yourself of the (still as yet meager) research resources available there.

Here are some of the projects we have underway:

1. Bobruisk Yiskor Book translation
2. Duma voter registration lists (Bobruisk District) transliteration
3. 30 economic historical summaries for over 30 Bobruisk District shtetlekh, including Parichi, Shedrin, etc.
4. Contacts with groups of Bobruisker emigres living in small enclaves throughout the world, e.g. Brighton
Beach, LA, Tel Aviv, Baltimore, etc.


We also have a Bobruisk/Shedrin travelog by Sheldon Benjamin, MD and family.

To subscribe, follow the instructions on our home page, or use the JewishGen subscription management page
(scroll down to ShtetLinks, Bobruisk).

Zay Gezunt,

Don Mopsick, BIG Shammes, researching MOPSIK, MEKLER, GORELIK, ZARCHIN, GRUBSTEIN, SELIGMAN, ZEITLIN,
KANTAROVICH (all Bobruisk)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Hello from Your Bobruisk Colleagues #belarus

Donald Mopsick <mophandl@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG:

Mazel Tov on your launch.

I am the Coordinator (Shammes) of the Bobruisk Interest Group, concentrating on the city and District of
Bobruisk in the Minsk Gubyernie. Bobruisk was an epicenter of Jewish Civilization during most of the 19th
century, with many famous rabbis, yeshivos, Zionists, Bundists, and literary figures originating >from there.

If you have ancestors >from this area, please look at our web page at

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/bobruisk.html

and avail yourself of the (still as yet meager) research resources available there.

Here are some of the projects we have underway:

1. Bobruisk Yiskor Book translation
2. Duma voter registration lists (Bobruisk District) transliteration
3. 30 economic historical summaries for over 30 Bobruisk District shtetlekh, including Parichi, Shedrin, etc.
4. Contacts with groups of Bobruisker emigres living in small enclaves throughout the world, e.g. Brighton
Beach, LA, Tel Aviv, Baltimore, etc.


We also have a Bobruisk/Shedrin travelog by Sheldon Benjamin, MD and family.

To subscribe, follow the instructions on our home page, or use the JewishGen subscription management page
(scroll down to ShtetLinks, Bobruisk).

Zay Gezunt,

Don Mopsick, BIG Shammes, researching MOPSIK, MEKLER, GORELIK, ZARCHIN, GRUBSTEIN, SELIGMAN, ZEITLIN,
KANTAROVICH (all Bobruisk)


1910 Census #general

Barbara Jean <midmrtg@...>
 

I located Chane SIEGEL on the S.S. Uranium Passenger List which arrived
in New York Port on Nov 30 1912, but cannot figure out the town in
Russia she came >from . This town is listed 3 times (Place of Birth, Last
Permanent Residence, and Relative >from her town) but the letters in the
town name are hard to read and even look different each time even though
all 3 are the same town. Looks like Tolcjin, Tulozin, or Tulcqin or
maybe it is a "m" on the end (just can't figure it out). It shows her
father Abram SIEGEL as living there It also shows that she went to live
with her brother Moise SIEGEL in Brooklyn and gave the address. Since
she arrived in 1912, I tried to find her brother's address in the 1910
Census for Brooklyn (Kings) New York hoping it would show this Russian
town as his place of origin and maybe it would be clearer. However, the
microfiche that contains the Enumeration district # for Diamond Street
213-end for the odd side of street is all blurry for the Enumeration
district # so I can't locate the proper microfilm to search for his
address. I tried to find Moise SIEGEL on the SSDI records and other
databases but can't find a thing. She married Abraham BOGDANSKY >from the
same town (however their marriage was arranged in the U. S. and they
either married in New York or Philadelphia Pennsylvania). I can't find
any records for the name BOGDANSKY anywhere. They are both dead and my
relatives don't have much info. I am really stuck. Any ideas where I
can go >from here to figure out what the name of that town is? I only
know that it was supposedly in the Ukraine near Kiev. Also, how can I
find out when Abraham BOGDANSKY came to the United States and on what
ship? I knew approximately when Anna (Chane) SIEGEL arrived so I was
able to find her but I have no clue when he arrived.
I am really new at this so I hope I explained it ok.
Thank you
Barbara Warner (DANSKY)
midmrtg@idt.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1910 Census #general

Barbara Jean <midmrtg@...>
 

I located Chane SIEGEL on the S.S. Uranium Passenger List which arrived
in New York Port on Nov 30 1912, but cannot figure out the town in
Russia she came >from . This town is listed 3 times (Place of Birth, Last
Permanent Residence, and Relative >from her town) but the letters in the
town name are hard to read and even look different each time even though
all 3 are the same town. Looks like Tolcjin, Tulozin, or Tulcqin or
maybe it is a "m" on the end (just can't figure it out). It shows her
father Abram SIEGEL as living there It also shows that she went to live
with her brother Moise SIEGEL in Brooklyn and gave the address. Since
she arrived in 1912, I tried to find her brother's address in the 1910
Census for Brooklyn (Kings) New York hoping it would show this Russian
town as his place of origin and maybe it would be clearer. However, the
microfiche that contains the Enumeration district # for Diamond Street
213-end for the odd side of street is all blurry for the Enumeration
district # so I can't locate the proper microfilm to search for his
address. I tried to find Moise SIEGEL on the SSDI records and other
databases but can't find a thing. She married Abraham BOGDANSKY >from the
same town (however their marriage was arranged in the U. S. and they
either married in New York or Philadelphia Pennsylvania). I can't find
any records for the name BOGDANSKY anywhere. They are both dead and my
relatives don't have much info. I am really stuck. Any ideas where I
can go >from here to figure out what the name of that town is? I only
know that it was supposedly in the Ukraine near Kiev. Also, how can I
find out when Abraham BOGDANSKY came to the United States and on what
ship? I knew approximately when Anna (Chane) SIEGEL arrived so I was
able to find her but I have no clue when he arrived.
I am really new at this so I hope I explained it ok.
Thank you
Barbara Warner (DANSKY)
midmrtg@idt.net


Courtesy in making enquiries and accepting responses #general

MBernet@...
 

It is very important to all genners to be aware of the fact that in posing a
query we are making demands on other genners, demand that they read our query,
and demand that they go through their resources and repond to us. At the very
least we should be grateful to all who respond, even if their information
isn't EXACTLY what we seek. Rudeness and ingratitude are unpleasant in
themselves. Worse than that, examples like the one below can easily deter
many of us >from attempting to respond to queries.

PLEASE when you pose a query, tell us what parts of the question you already
have answers to, and when you receive a response, be grateful and gracious.
It would be nice if you sent your apprciation backchannel to those who have
answered (even if their answers were of no help), or even post it what you
have learned may is of interest to others


In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, a genner using the yahoo.com domain
name, whose name I will not repeat had written:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

==A number of us--myself included--went to some trouble to mention more about
the Shapiro/Speyer connection. To this, the questionner replied today:

<< If you definitely know that there IS NOT a connection, then say so, and
why, and I'll
accept the coincidence. If you can suggest a good and reliable place to check
whether there is a connection, that will also be acceptable.

If you do NOT know, one way or another, please leave the matter well alone,
and do NOT, I beg of you, go into the interesting but well covered history of
the connection between SPIRO, SHAPIRO, SPEYER, and so forth. >>

==The demand itself, is of course absurd. How can anyone prove this specific
Spiro does not come >from the Greek. And being instructed by the query-er what
sort of response s/he finds "acceptable" is hardly the sort of thing to make
any of us respond to future queries.

Coincidence or not, this genner's Yahoo account was disconnected shortly after
s/he sent the preceeding.

Please, everyone. Courtesy pays off. Don't spit into the well >from which
others want to drink.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
Wolf(f): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam

List edited by the moderator to the maximum allowed 6 lines.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Rather convenient that the original writer lost his
Yahoo account although we suspect he'll be back in another guise. The
flame in advance nature of his second message was rather surprising but
tame in comparison to flaming threads elsewhere. Mr. Bernet is correct
when he talks about courtesy, but then for the most part there are only
such courteous people here. The moderator's job is difficult enough when
there are missing signatures, off topic messages, ads, spam, personal and
strange format messages with which one must deal without having to put out
fires started by the anonymous writer's type of rant. Thanks Michael.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Courtesy in making enquiries and accepting responses #general

MBernet@...
 

It is very important to all genners to be aware of the fact that in posing a
query we are making demands on other genners, demand that they read our query,
and demand that they go through their resources and repond to us. At the very
least we should be grateful to all who respond, even if their information
isn't EXACTLY what we seek. Rudeness and ingratitude are unpleasant in
themselves. Worse than that, examples like the one below can easily deter
many of us >from attempting to respond to queries.

PLEASE when you pose a query, tell us what parts of the question you already
have answers to, and when you receive a response, be grateful and gracious.
It would be nice if you sent your apprciation backchannel to those who have
answered (even if their answers were of no help), or even post it what you
have learned may is of interest to others


In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, a genner using the yahoo.com domain
name, whose name I will not repeat had written:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

==A number of us--myself included--went to some trouble to mention more about
the Shapiro/Speyer connection. To this, the questionner replied today:

<< If you definitely know that there IS NOT a connection, then say so, and
why, and I'll
accept the coincidence. If you can suggest a good and reliable place to check
whether there is a connection, that will also be acceptable.

If you do NOT know, one way or another, please leave the matter well alone,
and do NOT, I beg of you, go into the interesting but well covered history of
the connection between SPIRO, SHAPIRO, SPEYER, and so forth. >>

==The demand itself, is of course absurd. How can anyone prove this specific
Spiro does not come >from the Greek. And being instructed by the query-er what
sort of response s/he finds "acceptable" is hardly the sort of thing to make
any of us respond to future queries.

Coincidence or not, this genner's Yahoo account was disconnected shortly after
s/he sent the preceeding.

Please, everyone. Courtesy pays off. Don't spit into the well >from which
others want to drink.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
Wolf(f): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam

List edited by the moderator to the maximum allowed 6 lines.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Rather convenient that the original writer lost his
Yahoo account although we suspect he'll be back in another guise. The
flame in advance nature of his second message was rather surprising but
tame in comparison to flaming threads elsewhere. Mr. Bernet is correct
when he talks about courtesy, but then for the most part there are only
such courteous people here. The moderator's job is difficult enough when
there are missing signatures, off topic messages, ads, spam, personal and
strange format messages with which one must deal without having to put out
fires started by the anonymous writer's type of rant. Thanks Michael.


Re: Searching for SADKIN surnames from Vitebsk #belarus

Errol Feldman <boaz@...>
 

There are two ZAKIN families in Montreal - any connection?

Errol Feldman

Logan Lockabey Wrote:
seek many families >from Vitebsk with the surnames: SADKIN, SATKIN,
ZADKIN, ZATKIN, ZETKIN, TZADKIN. The preferred surname is spelled
TZADKIN. Families settled in USA, Canada, England, South Africa,
Israel.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Searching for SADKIN surnames from Vitebsk #belarus

Errol Feldman <boaz@...>
 

There are two ZAKIN families in Montreal - any connection?

Errol Feldman

Logan Lockabey Wrote:
seek many families >from Vitebsk with the surnames: SADKIN, SATKIN,
ZADKIN, ZATKIN, ZETKIN, TZADKIN. The preferred surname is spelled
TZADKIN. Families settled in USA, Canada, England, South Africa,
Israel.


Re: h-sig digest: August 18, 1998 #hungary

Leah Kraus <kraus@...>
 

Shalom,
Next week we'll be iy"h in Hungary. Intend to be in the jewish cemetery in
Edeleyn (few km north to Munkatz). If someone is interesting in looking there for
some details (picture or grave stones etc.) I'll do my best to look for it.Leah
Kraus
Haifa


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: August 18, 1998 #hungary

Leah Kraus <kraus@...>
 

Shalom,
Next week we'll be iy"h in Hungary. Intend to be in the jewish cemetery in
Edeleyn (few km north to Munkatz). If someone is interesting in looking there for
some details (picture or grave stones etc.) I'll do my best to look for it.Leah
Kraus
Haifa


Re: Harsfalva #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

If your town is now in Ukraine, try Nelipyne or Nelipeno which was
Bereg county under Hungary and now is in the Ukraine administrative
district of Svaljava.

Debbi

You wrote:


Can anyone tell me where the town/village of Harsfalva is currently
located and whether it has a modern name. I cannot find it on a map of
Hungary and I have looked at maps of both Romania and Slovakia which
have both Hungarian/current names without success.

Thank you

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Harsfalva #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

If your town is now in Ukraine, try Nelipyne or Nelipeno which was
Bereg county under Hungary and now is in the Ukraine administrative
district of Svaljava.

Debbi

You wrote:


Can anyone tell me where the town/village of Harsfalva is currently
located and whether it has a modern name. I cannot find it on a map of
Hungary and I have looked at maps of both Romania and Slovakia which
have both Hungarian/current names without success.

Thank you

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


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Re: Searching TOV,TOW or TOFF #belarus

Vcharny@...
 

I saw among vital records >from Minsk couple records for such surnames as:

TOVA,
TOUB,
TOUV

as well as for ABRAMSON.

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Searching TOV,TOW or TOFF #belarus

Vcharny@...
 

I saw among vital records >from Minsk couple records for such surnames as:

TOVA,
TOUB,
TOUV

as well as for ABRAMSON.

Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL


fyi: CEMETERY DO'S & DON'TS #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

CEMETERY DO'S & DON'TS
http://pages.cthome.net/hirsch/dodont.htm

This page has been reproduced by the Jewish Historical Society of
Greater New Haven with the kind permission of the Connecticut Gravestone
Network.
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen fyi: CEMETERY DO'S & DON'TS #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

CEMETERY DO'S & DON'TS
http://pages.cthome.net/hirsch/dodont.htm

This page has been reproduced by the Jewish Historical Society of
Greater New Haven with the kind permission of the Connecticut Gravestone
Network.
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>