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Re: Boston, Mass. Census #general

Mary Katzman <maryfloy@...>
 

When I came of age, I noticed that the name and address
of each voter was posted at the entrance to the polling place. Crooked
politicians would hire people to go >from precinct to precinct...
Al Rosenfield
Voters lists are still posted at the entrance, no identification is
required to prove you are who you say you are, nor do you have to sign
anything that says you have voted. A volunteer sits at a table and just
checks off that you've voted. I've questioned this policy several times
and asked how they know who I say I am. The response is "we trust you". I
also find it an invasion of privacy to have the list of voters public in
that way. Not that I care if people know I'm a registered voter, but
because it lets everyone know whether or not their neighbors are. That's
nobody's business.

Personally, I now use the absentee ballot to vote.

Mary Floy Katzman
Framingham, Massachusetts


Zdunska Wola data #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Dear Hadassah:

Attached (separate mail) are 3 master datafiles for B, M, D of
Zdunska Wola for inclusion in the JRI project. The data includes 4208
entries, divided as follows:

1836 to 1837 BMD
1841B
1842 to 1844 BMD
1846 to 1847 BMD
1849 B
1850 to 1853 BMD
1854 B
1855 BMD
1868 to 1874 BMD

I would like to publicly thank my volunteers for their hard work:
Dov Rubin
Morris Aaron Wirth
S. J. Hillel
Bengt Sjalin
Ole Lourie

Kind regards
Daniel Wagner
Zdunska Wola CO-OP Coordinator
______________
H Daniel Wagner
Weizmann Institute of Science
Rehovot 76100, Israel
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: cpwagner@wis.weizmann.ac.il
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


Additional Wyszkow indices now on-line. #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

There has been a slip up... And it's my fault!

When the first group of indices >from the new Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland / Polish State Archives project were released and added to the
JRI-Poland database just prior to the announcement at the Los Angeles
Summer Seminar, some Wyszkow data slipped between the cracks.

This has now been corrected and the indices for an additional 353 birth
records and 104 marriage records for the Wyszkow for the years
1894 to 1896 are now on-line.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause researchers who
have already placed orders with the Polish State Archives for
photocopies of Wyszkow vital records.

Stanley Diamond,
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Boston, Mass. Census #general

Mary Katzman <maryfloy@...>
 

When I came of age, I noticed that the name and address
of each voter was posted at the entrance to the polling place. Crooked
politicians would hire people to go >from precinct to precinct...
Al Rosenfield
Voters lists are still posted at the entrance, no identification is
required to prove you are who you say you are, nor do you have to sign
anything that says you have voted. A volunteer sits at a table and just
checks off that you've voted. I've questioned this policy several times
and asked how they know who I say I am. The response is "we trust you". I
also find it an invasion of privacy to have the list of voters public in
that way. Not that I care if people know I'm a registered voter, but
because it lets everyone know whether or not their neighbors are. That's
nobody's business.

Personally, I now use the absentee ballot to vote.

Mary Floy Katzman
Framingham, Massachusetts


JRI Poland #Poland Zdunska Wola data #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Dear Hadassah:

Attached (separate mail) are 3 master datafiles for B, M, D of
Zdunska Wola for inclusion in the JRI project. The data includes 4208
entries, divided as follows:

1836 to 1837 BMD
1841B
1842 to 1844 BMD
1846 to 1847 BMD
1849 B
1850 to 1853 BMD
1854 B
1855 BMD
1868 to 1874 BMD

I would like to publicly thank my volunteers for their hard work:
Dov Rubin
Morris Aaron Wirth
S. J. Hillel
Bengt Sjalin
Ole Lourie

Kind regards
Daniel Wagner
Zdunska Wola CO-OP Coordinator
______________
H Daniel Wagner
Weizmann Institute of Science
Rehovot 76100, Israel
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: cpwagner@wis.weizmann.ac.il
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


JRI Poland #Poland Additional Wyszkow indices now on-line. #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

There has been a slip up... And it's my fault!

When the first group of indices >from the new Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland / Polish State Archives project were released and added to the
JRI-Poland database just prior to the announcement at the Los Angeles
Summer Seminar, some Wyszkow data slipped between the cracks.

This has now been corrected and the indices for an additional 353 birth
records and 104 marriage records for the Wyszkow for the years
1894 to 1896 are now on-line.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause researchers who
have already placed orders with the Polish State Archives for
photocopies of Wyszkow vital records.

Stanley Diamond,
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Re: Ekaterinoslav connection? #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

At 09:15 15-09-98 -0400, you wrote:
I recall seeing a post a few weeks ago >from someone who reported that family
members >from Belarus had first moved to Ekaterinoslav in the Ukraine before
emigrating.
...
I am wondering if other people also have forebears who moved to
Ekaterinoslav before leaving Russia completely.
...
Is this a common enough circumstance to merit further inquiry by the SIG?
I don't know, but it _did_ ring a bell. A friend (perhaps relative) has
passed on the following piece of information to me >from the archives Dvinsk
about one with a surname of common interest to us:

"1869: Application or a Jewish merchant in the city of Dinaburg (Dvinsk),
Chaim Yelev, for conversion to Christianity and concerning allocation of
lands in the province of Yekaterinoslavsky"

I just got the idea that, there must have been a possibility to get land in
Yekaterinoslavsky - but it seems only for Christians - or was it to lure
Jews into conversion? Thus, it might have been one of the straws that Jews
could try to get hold of to "keep afloat"? Or maybe even a distant
chance/hope to be able to get out? As - my guess only! - it would
(possibly!?) be easier for a Christian to get permission to emigrate!?

It would be interesting to hear what information others have on this. The
above quotation is the first time I have encountered something like that.

I am sure, that someoone out there know something about it ... I'm an
experience genealogist, but a novice in Jewish genealogy....

Best regards

--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Two small problems ?? #lithuania

Dalio Aronson <aronson@...>
 

Dear friends of LitvaKSIG.

In the first place I want to send here for all the brilliant ones and fighters
components of this important genealogy list and discoveries of our Brazil
wishes of A Happy New Year.

In the second place, I would like to know how to solve two small problems:

The first of them is that my e-mail moved. Now it is:
aronson@digiall.psi.br, and I would like to know who to communicate
to do the respective change.

The second of my small problems is that thanks to List, I met one of the
most important people of the European Judaism, that he is Mr.
Patrick Gordon, of Paris - France, and as I had problems with my computer I
lost his e-mail address, and I need to enter in contact with him.
Like this if you could not supply me the address, perhaps they can publish
my request on the list, and if he still is a subscriber, he can answer me.


At once I thank and I wish that in the year of 5.759, this list, its
competent management, and its zealous subscribers, continue
forming the great fraternity to return in the great cause of preservation of our
traditional Jewish values.


Dalio Aronson
Seeking:
ARONSON (>from Stalingrado or St. Petesburg)
RACHEWSKY (>from Poland or USSR)
SAUT (>from Polland or USSR)
SCHEINKMANN(>from Stalingrado or St. Petesburg)
ASHNIN (>from Siauliai - Lituan)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Ekaterinoslav connection? #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

At 09:15 15-09-98 -0400, you wrote:
I recall seeing a post a few weeks ago >from someone who reported that family
members >from Belarus had first moved to Ekaterinoslav in the Ukraine before
emigrating.
...
I am wondering if other people also have forebears who moved to
Ekaterinoslav before leaving Russia completely.
...
Is this a common enough circumstance to merit further inquiry by the SIG?
I don't know, but it _did_ ring a bell. A friend (perhaps relative) has
passed on the following piece of information to me >from the archives Dvinsk
about one with a surname of common interest to us:

"1869: Application or a Jewish merchant in the city of Dinaburg (Dvinsk),
Chaim Yelev, for conversion to Christianity and concerning allocation of
lands in the province of Yekaterinoslavsky"

I just got the idea that, there must have been a possibility to get land in
Yekaterinoslavsky - but it seems only for Christians - or was it to lure
Jews into conversion? Thus, it might have been one of the straws that Jews
could try to get hold of to "keep afloat"? Or maybe even a distant
chance/hope to be able to get out? As - my guess only! - it would
(possibly!?) be easier for a Christian to get permission to emigrate!?

It would be interesting to hear what information others have on this. The
above quotation is the first time I have encountered something like that.

I am sure, that someoone out there know something about it ... I'm an
experience genealogist, but a novice in Jewish genealogy....

Best regards

--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Two small problems ?? #lithuania

Dalio Aronson <aronson@...>
 

Dear friends of LitvaKSIG.

In the first place I want to send here for all the brilliant ones and fighters
components of this important genealogy list and discoveries of our Brazil
wishes of A Happy New Year.

In the second place, I would like to know how to solve two small problems:

The first of them is that my e-mail moved. Now it is:
aronson@digiall.psi.br, and I would like to know who to communicate
to do the respective change.

The second of my small problems is that thanks to List, I met one of the
most important people of the European Judaism, that he is Mr.
Patrick Gordon, of Paris - France, and as I had problems with my computer I
lost his e-mail address, and I need to enter in contact with him.
Like this if you could not supply me the address, perhaps they can publish
my request on the list, and if he still is a subscriber, he can answer me.


At once I thank and I wish that in the year of 5.759, this list, its
competent management, and its zealous subscribers, continue
forming the great fraternity to return in the great cause of preservation of our
traditional Jewish values.


Dalio Aronson
Seeking:
ARONSON (>from Stalingrado or St. Petesburg)
RACHEWSKY (>from Poland or USSR)
SAUT (>from Polland or USSR)
SCHEINKMANN(>from Stalingrado or St. Petesburg)
ASHNIN (>from Siauliai - Lituan)


Belarussian Migrations to Ukraine #belarus

Bkhait@...
 

Reading Jerry Touger's post reminded me of something Boris Feldblyum related
several times at the LA conference: many Jews >from Lithuania and Belarus
migrated to the Ukraine in the 1830s and 1840s because they could settle land
and farm there.

While this does not exactly answer Jerry's question, I think it does serve as
a reminder to all of us that our relatives did not necessarily stay in one
place, one gubernia, or even one country.

Barbara Krasner-Khait
bkhait@aol.com
Somerset, NJ


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarussian Migrations to Ukraine #belarus

Bkhait@...
 

Reading Jerry Touger's post reminded me of something Boris Feldblyum related
several times at the LA conference: many Jews >from Lithuania and Belarus
migrated to the Ukraine in the 1830s and 1840s because they could settle land
and farm there.

While this does not exactly answer Jerry's question, I think it does serve as
a reminder to all of us that our relatives did not necessarily stay in one
place, one gubernia, or even one country.

Barbara Krasner-Khait
bkhait@aol.com
Somerset, NJ


BURDINE--Elvis's Jewish link, finally! #general

Dick Plotz
 

A 4th cousin of Elvis Presley has just informed me that Elvis's maternal
great-great-grandmother's maiden name was Nancy BURDINE. I checked the JGFF
and the Discussion Group Archives for this name. The former yielded no hits;
the latter, only two, one of them only a reference to the Florida department
store family, another to a grave in the oldest Jewish cemetery in Vermont.

Is anyone out there connected to a BURDINE family? Is the department store
family Jewish? The thought of Elvis being connected to a department store
boggles the mind....

--
Dick Plotz
Providence RI
Dick@Plotz.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BURDINE--Elvis's Jewish link, finally! #general

Dick Plotz
 

A 4th cousin of Elvis Presley has just informed me that Elvis's maternal
great-great-grandmother's maiden name was Nancy BURDINE. I checked the JGFF
and the Discussion Group Archives for this name. The former yielded no hits;
the latter, only two, one of them only a reference to the Florida department
store family, another to a grave in the oldest Jewish cemetery in Vermont.

Is anyone out there connected to a BURDINE family? Is the department store
family Jewish? The thought of Elvis being connected to a department store
boggles the mind....

--
Dick Plotz
Providence RI
Dick@Plotz.com


Newspapers of the World #general

Lebn@...
 

We frequently need information >from obituaries or other articles found in
newspapers. A great site is <http://www.worldwidenews.com/> for this. It
gives you a scroll bar for states in the USA and for numerous countries.
Select your location and GO, then you will get a page with the local
newspapers. Click on any newspaper and many have an archive section or at
least a "contact us section" with e-mail address. I have asked on occasion
for a complimentary search with success. If you need an obit try to narrow it
down to the month and year and you may get a response. It is one of my
favorite sites on the Internet.
Eleanor Bien


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Newspapers of the World #general

Lebn@...
 

We frequently need information >from obituaries or other articles found in
newspapers. A great site is <http://www.worldwidenews.com/> for this. It
gives you a scroll bar for states in the USA and for numerous countries.
Select your location and GO, then you will get a page with the local
newspapers. Click on any newspaper and many have an archive section or at
least a "contact us section" with e-mail address. I have asked on occasion
for a complimentary search with success. If you need an obit try to narrow it
down to the month and year and you may get a response. It is one of my
favorite sites on the Internet.
Eleanor Bien


Re: Rakov cemetery #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Sheldon Clare wrote:>Does anyone have information about Jewish burial sites in Rakov, Belarus? I believe that my grandfather Shmuel GRODZENSKY was buried there in 1917.
We visited this cemetery, about 20 minutes drive >from Minsk, in July
1997. It is a large cemetery, estimated over 500 intact stones. Three
tombstones made out of millstones. There is a wall around it, and a
foundation stone in the wall with a date of 1922 on it. See Bruce Kahn's
JGSR searchable photographic database for photos of this cemetery
http://jGSR.HQ.Net and follow the links to see around 2000 photos of
Lithuania and Byelorus.

If you want any specific research work done related to this cemetery
contact me.

Dr Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rakov cemetery #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Sheldon Clare wrote:>Does anyone have information about Jewish burial sites in Rakov, Belarus? I believe that my grandfather Shmuel GRODZENSKY was buried there in 1917.
We visited this cemetery, about 20 minutes drive >from Minsk, in July
1997. It is a large cemetery, estimated over 500 intact stones. Three
tombstones made out of millstones. There is a wall around it, and a
foundation stone in the wall with a date of 1922 on it. See Bruce Kahn's
JGSR searchable photographic database for photos of this cemetery
http://jGSR.HQ.Net and follow the links to see around 2000 photos of
Lithuania and Byelorus.

If you want any specific research work done related to this cemetery
contact me.

Dr Saul Issroff


UK certificates #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

It is possible to get copies of births, marriages and death certificates
from the local registrar's office which issued the certificate in the first
place. The advantage is that it is much cheaper, at six pounds fifty pence,
than applying to the Southport office or the Family History Centre. In my
experience the service is quick.

You need of course to know the name and address of the local office but
this can readily be obtained, in Britain >from the local public library.
One difficulty is that some of the registration districts changed, notably
in the East End of London, which is relevant for us as it contained the
largest concentration of Jews in Britain. The Index tells the place where
the event was registered and the office you apply to will advise if they
are the appropriate one. However, some local records in the East End - and
perhaps elsewhere - were destroyed in the bombing during the Second World
War.

You need as usual to give as much information as possible including names
of parents (in the case of a birth) and if a marriage specify that it took
place in a synagogue (if it is likely that it did) as local records tend to
be by churches etc rather than alphabetically for all marriages.

You normally write to the Superintendent Registrar and enclose a stamped,
addressed envelope. I understand they perform the same service for orders
from abroad. I believe they prefer that cheques be paid in sterling, drawn
on a bank with branches in or with arrangements with banks located in the
UK; it need not be a British bank.

This all applies to England and Wales. I am not familiar with the
requirements of Scotland or Northern Ireland which have separate
registration arrangements.


Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen UK certificates #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

It is possible to get copies of births, marriages and death certificates
from the local registrar's office which issued the certificate in the first
place. The advantage is that it is much cheaper, at six pounds fifty pence,
than applying to the Southport office or the Family History Centre. In my
experience the service is quick.

You need of course to know the name and address of the local office but
this can readily be obtained, in Britain >from the local public library.
One difficulty is that some of the registration districts changed, notably
in the East End of London, which is relevant for us as it contained the
largest concentration of Jews in Britain. The Index tells the place where
the event was registered and the office you apply to will advise if they
are the appropriate one. However, some local records in the East End - and
perhaps elsewhere - were destroyed in the bombing during the Second World
War.

You need as usual to give as much information as possible including names
of parents (in the case of a birth) and if a marriage specify that it took
place in a synagogue (if it is likely that it did) as local records tend to
be by churches etc rather than alphabetically for all marriages.

You normally write to the Superintendent Registrar and enclose a stamped,
addressed envelope. I understand they perform the same service for orders
from abroad. I believe they prefer that cheques be paid in sterling, drawn
on a bank with branches in or with arrangements with banks located in the
UK; it need not be a British bank.

This all applies to England and Wales. I am not familiar with the
requirements of Scotland or Northern Ireland which have separate
registration arrangements.


Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk