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Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records #germany

Liz Hanellin
 

Dear GerSIGers,

I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb.
FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter,
Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her
husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939).

Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either
Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's
husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim,
but he is not the focus of this email.).

I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the
International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of
birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This
document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941
and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand,"
who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau
Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5.

There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and
Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948.

And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI
listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947.

I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records:

Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand?
I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have
Been - where were these women giving birth?

What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather
than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of
the birth because of the war?

Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth
certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive
at that time?

A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions,
thoughts and insights. Best,

Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com


German SIG #Germany Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records #germany

Liz Hanellin
 

Dear GerSIGers,

I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb.
FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter,
Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her
husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939).

Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either
Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's
husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim,
but he is not the focus of this email.).

I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the
International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of
birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This
document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941
and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand,"
who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau
Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5.

There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and
Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948.

And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI
listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947.

I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records:

Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand?
I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have
Been - where were these women giving birth?

What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather
than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of
the birth because of the war?

Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth
certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive
at that time?

A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions,
thoughts and insights. Best,

Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com


rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries #general

Judy Vasos
 

Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper
and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to
save paper or what the reason.

I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which
specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it
was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail.

I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between
Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used?
Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the
Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence?

Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource.

Best,
Judy Vasos Baczewski
judyvasos@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries #general

Judy Vasos
 

Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper
and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to
save paper or what the reason.

I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which
specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it
was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail.

I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between
Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used?
Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the
Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence?

Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource.

Best,
Judy Vasos Baczewski
judyvasos@gmail.com


ViewMate Translations - Polish to English #general

Marilyn Silva
 

Genners,

I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for
Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need
translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109

Thank you
Marilyn Silva
GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI

MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translations - Polish to English #general

Marilyn Silva
 

Genners,

I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for
Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need
translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109

Thank you
Marilyn Silva
GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI

MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.


Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Vivian Kahn
 

Merle,

The entire country of Slovakia was part of Hungary prior to the end of the World
War I and is within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. In fact, my father and many of
my paternal ancestors come >from that part of Hungary. Slovakia became part of the
new nation of Czechoslovakia in 1921 but the Nazis transferred part of the area
back to Hungary in the late 1930's because Hungary was part of the Axis.

H-SIG volunteers have already indexed thousands of records that are searchable in
the JewishGen Hungary Database. These include records >from the Hungarian National
Archives in Budapest as well as records >from other archives in Hungary and
Slovakia. Our collection includes vital and census records. We have also helped to
transcribe headstones >from cemeteries in Slovakia and have created a number of
KehilaLinks websites, such as the one I did for Sobrance. Additional information is
available on our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/ including links to a
1943 phone directory covering all areas that were part of Hungary in 1943,
including lands in the eastern part present-day Slovakia, a Slovak Pronunciation
Guide, city maps, and guides to research in Slovakia. H-SIG has also underwritten
session speakers on Slovakia at the IAJGS conference.

Any researcher with questions is welcome to contact me off-list.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: "Merle Kastner" <merlebk18@gmail.com
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
Czechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but there was a
sizeable Jewish population at one time.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Vivian Kahn
 

Merle,

The entire country of Slovakia was part of Hungary prior to the end of the World
War I and is within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. In fact, my father and many of
my paternal ancestors come >from that part of Hungary. Slovakia became part of the
new nation of Czechoslovakia in 1921 but the Nazis transferred part of the area
back to Hungary in the late 1930's because Hungary was part of the Axis.

H-SIG volunteers have already indexed thousands of records that are searchable in
the JewishGen Hungary Database. These include records >from the Hungarian National
Archives in Budapest as well as records >from other archives in Hungary and
Slovakia. Our collection includes vital and census records. We have also helped to
transcribe headstones >from cemeteries in Slovakia and have created a number of
KehilaLinks websites, such as the one I did for Sobrance. Additional information is
available on our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/ including links to a
1943 phone directory covering all areas that were part of Hungary in 1943,
including lands in the eastern part present-day Slovakia, a Slovak Pronunciation
Guide, city maps, and guides to research in Slovakia. H-SIG has also underwritten
session speakers on Slovakia at the IAJGS conference.

Any researcher with questions is welcome to contact me off-list.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: "Merle Kastner" <merlebk18@gmail.com
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
Czechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but there was a
sizeable Jewish population at one time.


Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Mark Shapiro
 

Merle Kastner asks, Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia?

I suggest looking at the "Genealogy Guide: Czech and Slovak Republics" of the Center
for Jewish History at http://libguides.cjh.org/genealogyguides/czech_slovak.

Mark Shapiro
JGSNY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Mark Shapiro
 

Merle Kastner asks, Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia?

I suggest looking at the "Genealogy Guide: Czech and Slovak Republics" of the Center
for Jewish History at http://libguides.cjh.org/genealogyguides/czech_slovak.

Mark Shapiro
JGSNY


Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

Hi Merle,

The Hungarian Special Interest Group covers Slovakia, which was called
Upper Hungary in the Kingdom of Hungary until World War I. Right after
the war ended it formed Czechoslovakia with its cousin to the
west-northwest and the Sub-Carpathian area to the east. The Soviet Union
incorporated the Sub-Carpathian part after WWII, and now it's Ukraine.
The rest of the country existed - with a break between 1939 and 1945 -
until 1993, when there was the peaceful "Velvet Divorce".

In addition to H-SIG, there is also a SubCarpathian SIG, which covers
the part to the east I mentioned.

Good resources >from Slovakia on Facebook include:
* Hungarian Genealogy Group
* Hungary Exchange - Hungarian Genealogy * Jewish Genealogy Group * Also
in many parts of eastern Slovakia in particular, non-ethnic Slovak
Rusyns/Ruthenians were close neighbours of Jews, and as I understand it
had better relations with them then the Jews has with the ethnic Slovaks
(who led the deportations in 1942, for example). For more about this see
see Carpatho-Rusyns Everywhere on Facebook. (In records such as the 1869
All Hungary Census, many Jewish families had one or sometimes two
servants. If their religion is listed as Greek Catholic they are Rusyns.
There is also a lot of activity on Geni.com. Also, genealogyindexer.com
has a lot of data >from Sub-Carpathia, including commercial directories
from the 1890s or so to the 1930s. ***** My father's side is >from what
is now Slovakia going back to the end of the 18th Century, as is at
least half of my mom's side. The online records at Family Search have
great coverage of this area, though many are not indexed. But they are
detailed enough to show e..g that my father and mother's families knew
each other at least 125 years ago (my parents met somewhat randomly in
Los Angeles in 1959.). Someone on my father's side is a witness to a
marriage of an ancestor of my mother. Is Kastner one of your Slovak
family names? Which other names and/or towns do you know? Is your family
on Ancestry or Geni?

Todd Edelman San Francisco Researching: EDELMAN,
FRIEDMAN, GRUN, DEUTSCH, SUSSHOLZ, WEISZ, LICHTIG, LICHTENSTEIN,
FELDMAN, WEIL and WEISBERGER and others in eastern and northeastern
Slovakia, Israel, northeastern Ohio, Indiana, California and New York.

Merle Kastner merlebk18@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
Czechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but there was a
sizeable Jewish population at one time.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

Hi Merle,

The Hungarian Special Interest Group covers Slovakia, which was called
Upper Hungary in the Kingdom of Hungary until World War I. Right after
the war ended it formed Czechoslovakia with its cousin to the
west-northwest and the Sub-Carpathian area to the east. The Soviet Union
incorporated the Sub-Carpathian part after WWII, and now it's Ukraine.
The rest of the country existed - with a break between 1939 and 1945 -
until 1993, when there was the peaceful "Velvet Divorce".

In addition to H-SIG, there is also a SubCarpathian SIG, which covers
the part to the east I mentioned.

Good resources >from Slovakia on Facebook include:
* Hungarian Genealogy Group
* Hungary Exchange - Hungarian Genealogy * Jewish Genealogy Group * Also
in many parts of eastern Slovakia in particular, non-ethnic Slovak
Rusyns/Ruthenians were close neighbours of Jews, and as I understand it
had better relations with them then the Jews has with the ethnic Slovaks
(who led the deportations in 1942, for example). For more about this see
see Carpatho-Rusyns Everywhere on Facebook. (In records such as the 1869
All Hungary Census, many Jewish families had one or sometimes two
servants. If their religion is listed as Greek Catholic they are Rusyns.
There is also a lot of activity on Geni.com. Also, genealogyindexer.com
has a lot of data >from Sub-Carpathia, including commercial directories
from the 1890s or so to the 1930s. ***** My father's side is >from what
is now Slovakia going back to the end of the 18th Century, as is at
least half of my mom's side. The online records at Family Search have
great coverage of this area, though many are not indexed. But they are
detailed enough to show e..g that my father and mother's families knew
each other at least 125 years ago (my parents met somewhat randomly in
Los Angeles in 1959.). Someone on my father's side is a witness to a
marriage of an ancestor of my mother. Is Kastner one of your Slovak
family names? Which other names and/or towns do you know? Is your family
on Ancestry or Geni?

Todd Edelman San Francisco Researching: EDELMAN,
FRIEDMAN, GRUN, DEUTSCH, SUSSHOLZ, WEISZ, LICHTIG, LICHTENSTEIN,
FELDMAN, WEIL and WEISBERGER and others in eastern and northeastern
Slovakia, Israel, northeastern Ohio, Indiana, California and New York.

Merle Kastner merlebk18@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
Czechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but there was a
sizeable Jewish population at one time.


ViewMate translation requests 49105 and 49106 - Russian #general

Mark Halpern
 

My Japanese colleagues and I are working on a study of Jewish refugees fleeing
Europe via Russia and Japan in 1940/41. We queried the Archive in Vladivostok
about any information or files they may have pertaining to these refugees
who traveled on the Trans-Siberian railway to Vladivostok and then by ship to
Tsuruga, Japan. Would appreciate a full translation of these two responses.

They are on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49105
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49106

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Mark Halpern
West Chester, PA, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation requests 49105 and 49106 - Russian #general

Mark Halpern
 

My Japanese colleagues and I are working on a study of Jewish refugees fleeing
Europe via Russia and Japan in 1940/41. We queried the Archive in Vladivostok
about any information or files they may have pertaining to these refugees
who traveled on the Trans-Siberian railway to Vladivostok and then by ship to
Tsuruga, Japan. Would appreciate a full translation of these two responses.

They are on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49105
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49106

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Mark Halpern
West Chester, PA, USA


Child Holocaust survivor seeking identity #general

S. Cohen
 

I am posting this message on behalf of child Holocaust survivor Maria
Vasitinskay, who lives in Omsk, Siberia.

All Maria knows of her beginnings is that she was found as an infant
wrapped in a blanket alongside the road on which the Jews were taken
on their way to the Krosno ghetto. She was taken in by a Polish couple
in 1942, at the age of eight months. Maria hopes that someone reading
this message might know who she is.

Maria's quest first appeared on JewishGen Viewmate, image 35724:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/v_filterarchivelist.asp?x_ID=35724&;z_ID=%3D%2C%2C

Sheindle Cohen (New York)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Child Holocaust survivor seeking identity #general

S. Cohen
 

I am posting this message on behalf of child Holocaust survivor Maria
Vasitinskay, who lives in Omsk, Siberia.

All Maria knows of her beginnings is that she was found as an infant
wrapped in a blanket alongside the road on which the Jews were taken
on their way to the Krosno ghetto. She was taken in by a Polish couple
in 1942, at the age of eight months. Maria hopes that someone reading
this message might know who she is.

Maria's quest first appeared on JewishGen Viewmate, image 35724:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/v_filterarchivelist.asp?x_ID=35724&;z_ID=%3D%2C%2C

Sheindle Cohen (New York)


Holocaust Memoirs and Genealogy We Fought Like Lions #general

Gary J Lelonek <gary.lelonek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have published my grandfather's Holocaust memoirs. The book, "We Fought Like
Lions" is now available through Amazon,
https://www.amazon.com/We-Fought-Like-Lions-Holocaust/dp/1515181596

I have researched my grandfather's story for the last 6 years. I want to thank the
JewishGen community for their support. As a medical student with little budget for
my favorite hobby, the research would not have been possible without the access to
records, the research community and volunteers that JewishGen and JRI Poland offer.
In the book I describe the process of discovering his history through being the
family genealogist.

The book is the researched transcript of my grandfather's World War 2 account. He
describes prewar Sierpc, Poland, the Nazi invasion, experiences in Siberia,
fighting for the exiled Polish Government in the Warsaw Uprising 1944, capture by
the Nazis and life as a POW, liberation, anti-Semitism when he returned to Sierpc
post-war, Lampertheim DP camp, establishment of the State of Israel and immigration
to America. My grandfather saved his entire family by convincing his parents to
flee to the Soviet Union. I discuss the tools JewishGen and JRI Poland provide. I
cite 33 letters that the family wrote to the Sierpc Relief Organization, Roots
works, reparation requests, and interviews. I have also included historical
perspectives to place his narrative in the larger context of World War 2. With
over 86,000 oral testimonies, the Holocaust is the best-documented event in Jewish
history and includes an account of the pre-Holocaust Jewish life. My book makes my
grandfather's recorded history accessible to anyone.

Thank you,
Gary Lelone

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Memoirs and Genealogy We Fought Like Lions #general

Gary J Lelonek <gary.lelonek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have published my grandfather's Holocaust memoirs. The book, "We Fought Like
Lions" is now available through Amazon,
https://www.amazon.com/We-Fought-Like-Lions-Holocaust/dp/1515181596

I have researched my grandfather's story for the last 6 years. I want to thank the
JewishGen community for their support. As a medical student with little budget for
my favorite hobby, the research would not have been possible without the access to
records, the research community and volunteers that JewishGen and JRI Poland offer.
In the book I describe the process of discovering his history through being the
family genealogist.

The book is the researched transcript of my grandfather's World War 2 account. He
describes prewar Sierpc, Poland, the Nazi invasion, experiences in Siberia,
fighting for the exiled Polish Government in the Warsaw Uprising 1944, capture by
the Nazis and life as a POW, liberation, anti-Semitism when he returned to Sierpc
post-war, Lampertheim DP camp, establishment of the State of Israel and immigration
to America. My grandfather saved his entire family by convincing his parents to
flee to the Soviet Union. I discuss the tools JewishGen and JRI Poland provide. I
cite 33 letters that the family wrote to the Sierpc Relief Organization, Roots
works, reparation requests, and interviews. I have also included historical
perspectives to place his narrative in the larger context of World War 2. With
over 86,000 oral testimonies, the Holocaust is the best-documented event in Jewish
history and includes an account of the pre-Holocaust Jewish life. My book makes my
grandfather's recorded history accessible to anyone.

Thank you,
Gary Lelone

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one-time commercial announcement of a book.


Cemetery photo request: Mt. Carmel #5 #general

andrew@...
 

If anyone is going to Mt. Carmel #5 in Queens any time soon, (I know that's
disconnected >from the rest of the cemetery, and is also known as Knollwood Park),
I'd be grateful for photos of the following four (adjacent) graves:

FRANKLIN, Harry 5-G-274-1
FRANKLIN, Pauline 5-G-275-2
GREENE, Clara 5-G-275-1
GREENE, Jack 5-G-275-3

As usual, please be in touch with me directly before going, to avoid
duplicating efforts if someone else already has done so.

Thanks,
Andrew Greene
Newton MA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery photo request: Mt. Carmel #5 #general

andrew@...
 

If anyone is going to Mt. Carmel #5 in Queens any time soon, (I know that's
disconnected >from the rest of the cemetery, and is also known as Knollwood Park),
I'd be grateful for photos of the following four (adjacent) graves:

FRANKLIN, Harry 5-G-274-1
FRANKLIN, Pauline 5-G-275-2
GREENE, Clara 5-G-275-1
GREENE, Jack 5-G-275-3

As usual, please be in touch with me directly before going, to avoid
duplicating efforts if someone else already has done so.

Thanks,
Andrew Greene
Newton MA

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