Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records
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Liz Hanellin
Dear GerSIGers,
I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb. FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter, Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim, but he is not the focus of this email.). I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941 and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand," who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5. There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948. And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947. I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records: Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand? I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have Been - where were these women giving birth? What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of the birth because of the war? Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive at that time? A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions, thoughts and insights. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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German SIG #Germany Judis Hadasse LEVI: Questions about Frankfurt Birth Records
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Liz Hanellin
Dear GerSIGers,
I have posted before about my great-aunt Jenny (Jeannette) LEVI, geb. FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim) and her daughter, Judis Hadasse LEVI, (b. June 2, 1941 in Frankfurt -- Jenny and her husband were internally deported to Frankfurt in 1939). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any records relating to either Jenny or Judis Hadasse after Judis Hadasse was born. (Incidentally, Jenny's husband was Ludwig LEVI, b. April 10, 1909, in Mannheim, but he is not the focus of this email.). I have received three documents related to Judis' Hadasse's birth >from the International Tracing Service. One of them lists the mother and the date of birth (June 2, 1941), but not the name of the child (or the father). This document lists 17 German Jewish women who gave birth between January 1941 and July 1941, all using the same "hebamme" (midwife), "Frau Th. Wiegand," who signed the document on August 28, 1948. The address listed with Frau Wiegand's name is Saalsburgstrasse 5. There is another document that lists Judis Hadasse's name, birthdate and Parents’ names; the document is dated, January 22, 1948. And, finally, I have a copy of the "Gerburtsurkunde" for Judis Hadasse LEVI listing her birthdate and parents’ names, and which is dated Nov. 25, 1947. I would like to ask a few questions about the birth records: Is there a way to find out anything about the "midwife," Frau Th. Wiegand? I would also like to know what kind of place would Saalsburgstrasse 5 have Been - where were these women giving birth? What is the significance of the documents being dated 1947 and 1948 rather than 1941? Were such official documents not being certified at the time of the birth because of the war? Also is it correct to assume that the issuance of Judis Hadasse's birth certificate in 1947 had nothing to do with whether she was still alive at that time? A lot of questions, I know! As always, thank you for your suggestions, thoughts and insights. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries
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Judy Vasos
Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to save paper or what the reason. I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail. I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used? Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence? Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource. Best, Judy Vasos Baczewski judyvasos@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen rules for correspondence in Nazi occupied countries
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Judy Vasos
Hello - My husband’s grandparents wrote over 200 letters >from Nazi
occupied Amsterdam. They wrote >from margin to margin of the paper and I don’t know if this was because of a rule or they were trying to save paper or what the reason. I know there was a special Red Cross correspondence form which specified the number of words. They only used this once as I think it was a cumbersome process and took longer than regular mail. I’m interested in knowing if there were rules for correspondence between Amsterdam and USA. Were their limits on the number of pages used? Was regular correspondence regulated by the Red Cross or did the Nazis have another way of proclaiming the rules for correspondence? Thanks to anyone who has this information or can point me to a resource. Best, Judy Vasos Baczewski judyvasos@gmail.com
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ViewMate Translations - Polish to English
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Marilyn Silva
Genners,
I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109 Thank you Marilyn Silva GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translations - Polish to English
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Marilyn Silva
Genners,
I've posted 2 marriage records; one for Szulim Grzebiniarze and the other for Rubin Grzebien. Also 1 birth record for Jyck Treter. For which I need translations. I am most interested in names and ages. They are on ViewMate at: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49107 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49108 www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49109 Thank you Marilyn Silva GRZEBIEN, GRZEBINIARZE, TRETER, KISTENBERG, ZALOSZYNSKI MODERATOR: Please respond using the Viewmate response form.
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Re: Researching Slovakia
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Vivian Kahn
Merle,
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The entire country of Slovakia was part of Hungary prior to the end of the World War I and is within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. In fact, my father and many of my paternal ancestors come >from that part of Hungary. Slovakia became part of the new nation of Czechoslovakia in 1921 but the Nazis transferred part of the area back to Hungary in the late 1930's because Hungary was part of the Axis. H-SIG volunteers have already indexed thousands of records that are searchable in the JewishGen Hungary Database. These include records >from the Hungarian National Archives in Budapest as well as records >from other archives in Hungary and Slovakia. Our collection includes vital and census records. We have also helped to transcribe headstones >from cemeteries in Slovakia and have created a number of KehilaLinks websites, such as the one I did for Sobrance. Additional information is available on our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/ including links to a 1943 phone directory covering all areas that were part of Hungary in 1943, including lands in the eastern part present-day Slovakia, a Slovak Pronunciation Guide, city maps, and guides to research in Slovakia. H-SIG has also underwritten session speakers on Slovakia at the IAJGS conference. Any researcher with questions is welcome to contact me off-list. Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator
From: "Merle Kastner" <merlebk18@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia
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Vivian Kahn
Merle,
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The entire country of Slovakia was part of Hungary prior to the end of the World War I and is within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. In fact, my father and many of my paternal ancestors come >from that part of Hungary. Slovakia became part of the new nation of Czechoslovakia in 1921 but the Nazis transferred part of the area back to Hungary in the late 1930's because Hungary was part of the Axis. H-SIG volunteers have already indexed thousands of records that are searchable in the JewishGen Hungary Database. These include records >from the Hungarian National Archives in Budapest as well as records >from other archives in Hungary and Slovakia. Our collection includes vital and census records. We have also helped to transcribe headstones >from cemeteries in Slovakia and have created a number of KehilaLinks websites, such as the one I did for Sobrance. Additional information is available on our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/ including links to a 1943 phone directory covering all areas that were part of Hungary in 1943, including lands in the eastern part present-day Slovakia, a Slovak Pronunciation Guide, city maps, and guides to research in Slovakia. H-SIG has also underwritten session speakers on Slovakia at the IAJGS conference. Any researcher with questions is welcome to contact me off-list. Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator
From: "Merle Kastner" <merlebk18@gmail.com
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Re: Researching Slovakia
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Mark Shapiro
Merle Kastner asks, Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia?
I suggest looking at the "Genealogy Guide: Czech and Slovak Republics" of the Center for Jewish History at http://libguides.cjh.org/genealogyguides/czech_slovak. Mark Shapiro JGSNY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia
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Mark Shapiro
Merle Kastner asks, Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia?
I suggest looking at the "Genealogy Guide: Czech and Slovak Republics" of the Center for Jewish History at http://libguides.cjh.org/genealogyguides/czech_slovak. Mark Shapiro JGSNY
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Re: Researching Slovakia
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Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
Hi Merle,
The Hungarian Special Interest Group covers Slovakia, which was called Upper Hungary in the Kingdom of Hungary until World War I. Right after the war ended it formed Czechoslovakia with its cousin to the west-northwest and the Sub-Carpathian area to the east. The Soviet Union incorporated the Sub-Carpathian part after WWII, and now it's Ukraine. The rest of the country existed - with a break between 1939 and 1945 - until 1993, when there was the peaceful "Velvet Divorce". In addition to H-SIG, there is also a SubCarpathian SIG, which covers the part to the east I mentioned. Good resources >from Slovakia on Facebook include: * Hungarian Genealogy Group * Hungary Exchange - Hungarian Genealogy * Jewish Genealogy Group * Also in many parts of eastern Slovakia in particular, non-ethnic Slovak Rusyns/Ruthenians were close neighbours of Jews, and as I understand it had better relations with them then the Jews has with the ethnic Slovaks (who led the deportations in 1942, for example). For more about this see see Carpatho-Rusyns Everywhere on Facebook. (In records such as the 1869 All Hungary Census, many Jewish families had one or sometimes two servants. If their religion is listed as Greek Catholic they are Rusyns. There is also a lot of activity on Geni.com. Also, genealogyindexer.com has a lot of data >from Sub-Carpathia, including commercial directories from the 1890s or so to the 1930s. ***** My father's side is >from whatis now Slovakia going back to the end of the 18th Century, as is at least half of my mom's side. The online records at Family Search have great coverage of this area, though many are not indexed. But they are detailed enough to show e..g that my father and mother's families knew each other at least 125 years ago (my parents met somewhat randomly in Los Angeles in 1959.). Someone on my father's side is a witness to a marriage of an ancestor of my mother. Is Kastner one of your Slovak family names? Which other names and/or towns do you know? Is your family on Ancestry or Geni? Todd Edelman San Francisco Researching: EDELMAN, FRIEDMAN, GRUN, DEUTSCH, SUSSHOLZ, WEISZ, LICHTIG, LICHTENSTEIN, FELDMAN, WEIL and WEISBERGER and others in eastern and northeastern Slovakia, Israel, northeastern Ohio, Indiana, California and New York. Merle Kastner merlebk18@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Slovakia
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Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
Hi Merle,
The Hungarian Special Interest Group covers Slovakia, which was called Upper Hungary in the Kingdom of Hungary until World War I. Right after the war ended it formed Czechoslovakia with its cousin to the west-northwest and the Sub-Carpathian area to the east. The Soviet Union incorporated the Sub-Carpathian part after WWII, and now it's Ukraine. The rest of the country existed - with a break between 1939 and 1945 - until 1993, when there was the peaceful "Velvet Divorce". In addition to H-SIG, there is also a SubCarpathian SIG, which covers the part to the east I mentioned. Good resources >from Slovakia on Facebook include: * Hungarian Genealogy Group * Hungary Exchange - Hungarian Genealogy * Jewish Genealogy Group * Also in many parts of eastern Slovakia in particular, non-ethnic Slovak Rusyns/Ruthenians were close neighbours of Jews, and as I understand it had better relations with them then the Jews has with the ethnic Slovaks (who led the deportations in 1942, for example). For more about this see see Carpatho-Rusyns Everywhere on Facebook. (In records such as the 1869 All Hungary Census, many Jewish families had one or sometimes two servants. If their religion is listed as Greek Catholic they are Rusyns. There is also a lot of activity on Geni.com. Also, genealogyindexer.com has a lot of data >from Sub-Carpathia, including commercial directories from the 1890s or so to the 1930s. ***** My father's side is >from whatis now Slovakia going back to the end of the 18th Century, as is at least half of my mom's side. The online records at Family Search have great coverage of this area, though many are not indexed. But they are detailed enough to show e..g that my father and mother's families knew each other at least 125 years ago (my parents met somewhat randomly in Los Angeles in 1959.). Someone on my father's side is a witness to a marriage of an ancestor of my mother. Is Kastner one of your Slovak family names? Which other names and/or towns do you know? Is your family on Ancestry or Geni? Todd Edelman San Francisco Researching: EDELMAN, FRIEDMAN, GRUN, DEUTSCH, SUSSHOLZ, WEISZ, LICHTIG, LICHTENSTEIN, FELDMAN, WEIL and WEISBERGER and others in eastern and northeastern Slovakia, Israel, northeastern Ohio, Indiana, California and New York. Merle Kastner merlebk18@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly part of
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ViewMate translation requests 49105 and 49106 - Russian
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Mark Halpern
My Japanese colleagues and I are working on a study of Jewish refugees fleeing
Europe via Russia and Japan in 1940/41. We queried the Archive in Vladivostok about any information or files they may have pertaining to these refugees who traveled on the Trans-Siberian railway to Vladivostok and then by ship to Tsuruga, Japan. Would appreciate a full translation of these two responses. They are on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49105 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49106 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Mark Halpern West Chester, PA, USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation requests 49105 and 49106 - Russian
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Mark Halpern
My Japanese colleagues and I are working on a study of Jewish refugees fleeing
Europe via Russia and Japan in 1940/41. We queried the Archive in Vladivostok about any information or files they may have pertaining to these refugees who traveled on the Trans-Siberian railway to Vladivostok and then by ship to Tsuruga, Japan. Would appreciate a full translation of these two responses. They are on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49105 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49106 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Mark Halpern West Chester, PA, USA
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Child Holocaust survivor seeking identity
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S. Cohen
I am posting this message on behalf of child Holocaust survivor Maria
Vasitinskay, who lives in Omsk, Siberia. All Maria knows of her beginnings is that she was found as an infant wrapped in a blanket alongside the road on which the Jews were taken on their way to the Krosno ghetto. She was taken in by a Polish couple in 1942, at the age of eight months. Maria hopes that someone reading this message might know who she is. Maria's quest first appeared on JewishGen Viewmate, image 35724: http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/v_filterarchivelist.asp?x_ID=35724&z_ID=%3D%2C%2C Sheindle Cohen (New York)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Child Holocaust survivor seeking identity
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S. Cohen
I am posting this message on behalf of child Holocaust survivor Maria
Vasitinskay, who lives in Omsk, Siberia. All Maria knows of her beginnings is that she was found as an infant wrapped in a blanket alongside the road on which the Jews were taken on their way to the Krosno ghetto. She was taken in by a Polish couple in 1942, at the age of eight months. Maria hopes that someone reading this message might know who she is. Maria's quest first appeared on JewishGen Viewmate, image 35724: http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/v_filterarchivelist.asp?x_ID=35724&z_ID=%3D%2C%2C Sheindle Cohen (New York)
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Holocaust Memoirs and Genealogy We Fought Like Lions
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Gary J Lelonek <gary.lelonek@...>
Dear Genners,
I have published my grandfather's Holocaust memoirs. The book, "We Fought Like Lions" is now available through Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/We-Fought-Like-Lions-Holocaust/dp/1515181596 I have researched my grandfather's story for the last 6 years. I want to thank the JewishGen community for their support. As a medical student with little budget for my favorite hobby, the research would not have been possible without the access to records, the research community and volunteers that JewishGen and JRI Poland offer. In the book I describe the process of discovering his history through being the family genealogist. The book is the researched transcript of my grandfather's World War 2 account. He describes prewar Sierpc, Poland, the Nazi invasion, experiences in Siberia, fighting for the exiled Polish Government in the Warsaw Uprising 1944, capture by the Nazis and life as a POW, liberation, anti-Semitism when he returned to Sierpc post-war, Lampertheim DP camp, establishment of the State of Israel and immigration to America. My grandfather saved his entire family by convincing his parents to flee to the Soviet Union. I discuss the tools JewishGen and JRI Poland provide. I cite 33 letters that the family wrote to the Sierpc Relief Organization, Roots works, reparation requests, and interviews. I have also included historical perspectives to place his narrative in the larger context of World War 2. With over 86,000 oral testimonies, the Holocaust is the best-documented event in Jewish history and includes an account of the pre-Holocaust Jewish life. My book makes my grandfather's recorded history accessible to anyone. Thank you, Gary Lelone MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one-time commercial announcement of a book.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Memoirs and Genealogy We Fought Like Lions
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Gary J Lelonek <gary.lelonek@...>
Dear Genners,
I have published my grandfather's Holocaust memoirs. The book, "We Fought Like Lions" is now available through Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/We-Fought-Like-Lions-Holocaust/dp/1515181596 I have researched my grandfather's story for the last 6 years. I want to thank the JewishGen community for their support. As a medical student with little budget for my favorite hobby, the research would not have been possible without the access to records, the research community and volunteers that JewishGen and JRI Poland offer. In the book I describe the process of discovering his history through being the family genealogist. The book is the researched transcript of my grandfather's World War 2 account. He describes prewar Sierpc, Poland, the Nazi invasion, experiences in Siberia, fighting for the exiled Polish Government in the Warsaw Uprising 1944, capture by the Nazis and life as a POW, liberation, anti-Semitism when he returned to Sierpc post-war, Lampertheim DP camp, establishment of the State of Israel and immigration to America. My grandfather saved his entire family by convincing his parents to flee to the Soviet Union. I discuss the tools JewishGen and JRI Poland provide. I cite 33 letters that the family wrote to the Sierpc Relief Organization, Roots works, reparation requests, and interviews. I have also included historical perspectives to place his narrative in the larger context of World War 2. With over 86,000 oral testimonies, the Holocaust is the best-documented event in Jewish history and includes an account of the pre-Holocaust Jewish life. My book makes my grandfather's recorded history accessible to anyone. Thank you, Gary Lelone MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one-time commercial announcement of a book.
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Cemetery photo request: Mt. Carmel #5
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andrew@...
If anyone is going to Mt. Carmel #5 in Queens any time soon, (I know that's
disconnected >from the rest of the cemetery, and is also known as Knollwood Park), I'd be grateful for photos of the following four (adjacent) graves: FRANKLIN, Harry 5-G-274-1 FRANKLIN, Pauline 5-G-275-2 GREENE, Clara 5-G-275-1 GREENE, Jack 5-G-275-3 As usual, please be in touch with me directly before going, to avoid duplicating efforts if someone else already has done so. Thanks, Andrew Greene Newton MA MODERATOR: Private responses only. pleaase
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery photo request: Mt. Carmel #5
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andrew@...
If anyone is going to Mt. Carmel #5 in Queens any time soon, (I know that's
disconnected >from the rest of the cemetery, and is also known as Knollwood Park), I'd be grateful for photos of the following four (adjacent) graves: FRANKLIN, Harry 5-G-274-1 FRANKLIN, Pauline 5-G-275-2 GREENE, Clara 5-G-275-1 GREENE, Jack 5-G-275-3 As usual, please be in touch with me directly before going, to avoid duplicating efforts if someone else already has done so. Thanks, Andrew Greene Newton MA MODERATOR: Private responses only. pleaase
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