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Surname change in US Naturalization papers #general

montereybayrob@...
 

Jewishgeners,

I recently received naturalization papers for Max FISHKIN which indicates
that he entered the country as Max CHARCHIRIN in 1906.Passenger lists to
NY and outgoing lists >from the UK confirm the general last name as CHARCHIRIN.

My question is if that is all one had to do to change his or her
surname by indicating so on the naturalization papers? Could a person
just say on his or her Declaration of Intention what the new surname
was? Or, was there a more formal process like there is today?

Thanks for insights,
Rob Weisskirch
Marina, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname change in US Naturalization papers #general

montereybayrob@...
 

Jewishgeners,

I recently received naturalization papers for Max FISHKIN which indicates
that he entered the country as Max CHARCHIRIN in 1906.Passenger lists to
NY and outgoing lists >from the UK confirm the general last name as CHARCHIRIN.

My question is if that is all one had to do to change his or her
surname by indicating so on the naturalization papers? Could a person
just say on his or her Declaration of Intention what the new surname
was? Or, was there a more formal process like there is today?

Thanks for insights,
Rob Weisskirch
Marina, CA


Tour of the cemetery in Warsaw-help orientation #general

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello
Two years ago, I was able to find a bargain exciting - Tomb of the
brother of my great-grandfather, who was killed in the Warsaw ghetto
and was buried along with his son, who was killed a week after. Just
in time to have a common monument. The grave has survived all these
years without my great-grandfather knew existed, all the years he knew
there was nothing left big family after the Holocaust, no trace.Now, the
next step is to visit the place. Unfortunately, it encountered difficulties.
I have a cousin who traveled to Warsaw, once a year, she has already been there
twice, each time she visited the cemetery - but could not find the grave.
We have the information (number of sectors, line, etc.), but to
navigate a very difficult there. Great place, full of a rampant growth, especially
this season, and she comes for a limited number of hours.This week she goes again.
I really want to try to get information that will facilitate her orientation.
If I had the opportunity to obtain a quality map, specific to this
grave (beyond what you get in the office there), or if anyone knows
there and was where he was giving pictures or even Videos of strategic
locations as signposts - maybe the task was easier.
It should be noted that even a small tombstone low as you can see in the picture.
I am attaching here a link monument I'm talking about, maybe there is
someone who is there and can help?
http://cemetery.jewish.org.pl/id_45442/info/back_1:0/__Adler.html
Maybe exact coordinates of the grave in GPS?
There are now only add that she could visit only on Friday, and
cemetery workers may be less around there then.
I can not count on her to ask where the office or personnel, etc. - it
could not until now. I would be very happy for any help up front to
improve the chances of success of this attempt.
Thank you
David Nesher
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tour of the cemetery in Warsaw-help orientation #general

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello
Two years ago, I was able to find a bargain exciting - Tomb of the
brother of my great-grandfather, who was killed in the Warsaw ghetto
and was buried along with his son, who was killed a week after. Just
in time to have a common monument. The grave has survived all these
years without my great-grandfather knew existed, all the years he knew
there was nothing left big family after the Holocaust, no trace.Now, the
next step is to visit the place. Unfortunately, it encountered difficulties.
I have a cousin who traveled to Warsaw, once a year, she has already been there
twice, each time she visited the cemetery - but could not find the grave.
We have the information (number of sectors, line, etc.), but to
navigate a very difficult there. Great place, full of a rampant growth, especially
this season, and she comes for a limited number of hours.This week she goes again.
I really want to try to get information that will facilitate her orientation.
If I had the opportunity to obtain a quality map, specific to this
grave (beyond what you get in the office there), or if anyone knows
there and was where he was giving pictures or even Videos of strategic
locations as signposts - maybe the task was easier.
It should be noted that even a small tombstone low as you can see in the picture.
I am attaching here a link monument I'm talking about, maybe there is
someone who is there and can help?
http://cemetery.jewish.org.pl/id_45442/info/back_1:0/__Adler.html
Maybe exact coordinates of the grave in GPS?
There are now only add that she could visit only on Friday, and
cemetery workers may be less around there then.
I can not count on her to ask where the office or personnel, etc. - it
could not until now. I would be very happy for any help up front to
improve the chances of success of this attempt.
Thank you
David Nesher
Israel


Last Permanent Address #general

Roxanne Richardson
 

My husband’s paternal grandfather, Samuel “Sol” SCHONWETTER immigrated in 1912. He
was born and raised in Kamienica Dolna, Brzostek, Galicia, in the the Austrian
Empire. His passenger manifest shows that he left >from Cuxhaven in May 1912 on the
S. S. Amerika. He listed Kamienica Dolna (“Kamienca”) as his last permanent
residence. His occupation is listed as tailor.

So how is “permanent residence” defined?

I spoke to Sol SCHONWETTER’s oldest son (my husband’s uncle) this weekend on the
occasion of his 90th birthday. He was telling stories about the Italian grocery
stores that the family ran after Sol’s arrival. In these stories (some of which I
had heard before), he says that his father was the first to arrive, and then he
brought his brothers over, set them up in Italian grocery stores, too. I have
collected many documents for Sol and his 10 brothers and sisters (who all
immigrated). Six older brothers and sisters actually arrived before he did (several
before he was even born), but they all worked in the garment industry, lived on the
Lower East Side until the Williamsburg bridge opened, and then lived in Brooklyn.
Once Sol arrived, he always lived in Italian neighborhoods, and always worked in
the grocery business. After WWI was over, he did bring the remaining three brothers
to the United States, and they all had their own Italian grocery stores, getting
their start with Sol’s help. He helped get an older brother started in one, too, as
well as a brother-in-law, both of whom were here before Sol and who had been
working in the garment industry.

I asked my husband’s uncle how and why Sol ended up in an Italian neighborhood in
Manhattan’s Little Italy (the one that is now Spanish Harlem), rather than staying
in the Brooklyn neighborhood where his aunt and six older siblings were all living
when he arrived.

He said that when Sol left Galicia, he traveled to Italy, first, where he got a job
working in an Italian food warehouse of some sort. When he came to the United
States, he already could speak Italian, but he couldn’t speak English, so he went
to work in a business that he already had some experience in (delivering Italian
products to Italian grocery stores), using a language he already knew. It wasn’t
long before he got set up in his own store.

This seems like a plausible story, but I do wonder about why the passenger manifest
wouldn’t indicate that he had most recently been living in Italy? Would “last
permanent address” refer only to an address in his country of origin? Why travel
up to Cuxhaven to immigrate, rather than departing >from Italy?

As always, reconciling the documents with the priceless family stories is a
challenge. Any insight would be appreciated.

Roxanne Richardson
Minneapolis, Minnesota


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Last Permanent Address #general

Roxanne Richardson
 

My husband’s paternal grandfather, Samuel “Sol” SCHONWETTER immigrated in 1912. He
was born and raised in Kamienica Dolna, Brzostek, Galicia, in the the Austrian
Empire. His passenger manifest shows that he left >from Cuxhaven in May 1912 on the
S. S. Amerika. He listed Kamienica Dolna (“Kamienca”) as his last permanent
residence. His occupation is listed as tailor.

So how is “permanent residence” defined?

I spoke to Sol SCHONWETTER’s oldest son (my husband’s uncle) this weekend on the
occasion of his 90th birthday. He was telling stories about the Italian grocery
stores that the family ran after Sol’s arrival. In these stories (some of which I
had heard before), he says that his father was the first to arrive, and then he
brought his brothers over, set them up in Italian grocery stores, too. I have
collected many documents for Sol and his 10 brothers and sisters (who all
immigrated). Six older brothers and sisters actually arrived before he did (several
before he was even born), but they all worked in the garment industry, lived on the
Lower East Side until the Williamsburg bridge opened, and then lived in Brooklyn.
Once Sol arrived, he always lived in Italian neighborhoods, and always worked in
the grocery business. After WWI was over, he did bring the remaining three brothers
to the United States, and they all had their own Italian grocery stores, getting
their start with Sol’s help. He helped get an older brother started in one, too, as
well as a brother-in-law, both of whom were here before Sol and who had been
working in the garment industry.

I asked my husband’s uncle how and why Sol ended up in an Italian neighborhood in
Manhattan’s Little Italy (the one that is now Spanish Harlem), rather than staying
in the Brooklyn neighborhood where his aunt and six older siblings were all living
when he arrived.

He said that when Sol left Galicia, he traveled to Italy, first, where he got a job
working in an Italian food warehouse of some sort. When he came to the United
States, he already could speak Italian, but he couldn’t speak English, so he went
to work in a business that he already had some experience in (delivering Italian
products to Italian grocery stores), using a language he already knew. It wasn’t
long before he got set up in his own store.

This seems like a plausible story, but I do wonder about why the passenger manifest
wouldn’t indicate that he had most recently been living in Italy? Would “last
permanent address” refer only to an address in his country of origin? Why travel
up to Cuxhaven to immigrate, rather than departing >from Italy?

As always, reconciling the documents with the priceless family stories is a
challenge. Any insight would be appreciated.

Roxanne Richardson
Minneapolis, Minnesota


Searching STARBERG/SAMBERG/KERSCHNER/GRABELSKY Connections #general

Sheila Coyne
 

A mystery I raised on this forum about a year ago has arisen again, and I wonder if
any readers here may have clarifying information. Per a family tree done by my
late father's late cousin, my g-grandmother's maiden name was GRABELSKY, and she
married a SILBERT. The family was >from Khmil'nyk, Ukraine. Said g-grandmother had
a sister GRABELSKY who married a KERSCHNER (also written Kerzhner and Kessler).
All their children were my grandmother's cousins. I've found all relevant ship
manifests and census record, etc. There are, however, no records available at
JewishGen >from Ukraine that seem relevant. I also have no idea if or how my family
is related to other Grabelskys out there. All my GRABELSKY/KERSHNER/SILBERT
ancestors settled in Boston, Massachusetts.

However, one of the Grabelsky/Kerschner children (my g-grandmother's cousin) noted
on her manifest she was leaving her mother Zessie STARBERG. I have no previous
record or mention of this name on any family papers or any other manifests - said
individual was always referred to as Zessie GRABELSKY. Then, over a year ago, I
happened across a 1908 manifest of one Yankel STARBERG (b 1885), >from Khmil'nyk,
going to "brother-in-law" Gedalia FRANKLIN in Boston (who married one of the
Grabelsky/Kerschner children). I have plenty of records relating to Gedalia
Frankel/Franklin, but never found any further information about Yankel Starberg.
I asked about Starberg on this forum about a year ago.

Just recently, I came across two more STARBERG children - Moishe (b 1893) and
Rachel (b 1892), both leaving their Uncle Starberg in Khmil'nyk (on the Rijndam
arriving in NY 8 Aug 1911) and going to join their brother Yankel - but they
specify Mott St. (which I thought was in NY) in Boston, Mass. Again, other than
the manifest, I can find no other records for Starbergs born in Ukraine. A search
for S*b?rg born in Russia on various websites turned up no one that seemed likely.

Obviously, it occurred to me the name was likely changed - but whether to Steinberg
or Sternberg or Sandberg, I have no idea. To further complicate matters, I was
contacted (again, well over a year ago) via Ancestry by a gentleman who said he
believed our families were related (and provided information which proved at the
very least a close friendship between my ancestors and his). His ancestor was one
ZIMBACH, who married a KERSHNER (Kirshner) >from Ukraine, whose mother was a
SAMBERG. His Zimbach ancestor changed his name to SANDBERG. Again, I have info
from these individuals on my tree at Ancestry. Whether the presumed family
connection is via the Kershner or the Samberg side, or both, cannot be ascertained
(again, lack of records).

This is likely to remain a mystery - but on the offhand chance that someone out
there may be related to these individuals (and, more distantly, my family) in some
way, I thought I'd ask. All requisite records are on my Ancestry tree; if anyone
needs more specifics (dates, names of ships, etc.), feel free to ask.

Sheila Coyne (jsco3g@yahoo.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching STARBERG/SAMBERG/KERSCHNER/GRABELSKY Connections #general

Sheila Coyne
 

A mystery I raised on this forum about a year ago has arisen again, and I wonder if
any readers here may have clarifying information. Per a family tree done by my
late father's late cousin, my g-grandmother's maiden name was GRABELSKY, and she
married a SILBERT. The family was >from Khmil'nyk, Ukraine. Said g-grandmother had
a sister GRABELSKY who married a KERSCHNER (also written Kerzhner and Kessler).
All their children were my grandmother's cousins. I've found all relevant ship
manifests and census record, etc. There are, however, no records available at
JewishGen >from Ukraine that seem relevant. I also have no idea if or how my family
is related to other Grabelskys out there. All my GRABELSKY/KERSHNER/SILBERT
ancestors settled in Boston, Massachusetts.

However, one of the Grabelsky/Kerschner children (my g-grandmother's cousin) noted
on her manifest she was leaving her mother Zessie STARBERG. I have no previous
record or mention of this name on any family papers or any other manifests - said
individual was always referred to as Zessie GRABELSKY. Then, over a year ago, I
happened across a 1908 manifest of one Yankel STARBERG (b 1885), >from Khmil'nyk,
going to "brother-in-law" Gedalia FRANKLIN in Boston (who married one of the
Grabelsky/Kerschner children). I have plenty of records relating to Gedalia
Frankel/Franklin, but never found any further information about Yankel Starberg.
I asked about Starberg on this forum about a year ago.

Just recently, I came across two more STARBERG children - Moishe (b 1893) and
Rachel (b 1892), both leaving their Uncle Starberg in Khmil'nyk (on the Rijndam
arriving in NY 8 Aug 1911) and going to join their brother Yankel - but they
specify Mott St. (which I thought was in NY) in Boston, Mass. Again, other than
the manifest, I can find no other records for Starbergs born in Ukraine. A search
for S*b?rg born in Russia on various websites turned up no one that seemed likely.

Obviously, it occurred to me the name was likely changed - but whether to Steinberg
or Sternberg or Sandberg, I have no idea. To further complicate matters, I was
contacted (again, well over a year ago) via Ancestry by a gentleman who said he
believed our families were related (and provided information which proved at the
very least a close friendship between my ancestors and his). His ancestor was one
ZIMBACH, who married a KERSHNER (Kirshner) >from Ukraine, whose mother was a
SAMBERG. His Zimbach ancestor changed his name to SANDBERG. Again, I have info
from these individuals on my tree at Ancestry. Whether the presumed family
connection is via the Kershner or the Samberg side, or both, cannot be ascertained
(again, lack of records).

This is likely to remain a mystery - but on the offhand chance that someone out
there may be related to these individuals (and, more distantly, my family) in some
way, I thought I'd ask. All requisite records are on my Ancestry tree; if anyone
needs more specifics (dates, names of ships, etc.), feel free to ask.

Sheila Coyne (jsco3g@yahoo.com)


Findmypast Celebrates July 4th with Free Access to More than 1 Billion Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In honor of US Independence Day-July 4th-findmypast is celebrating with
free access to their UK, US and Irish records >from June 29th to July 6th.
New collections include over 7 million US Naturalization records and over
1.7 million US Passport Applications (1795-1925). This offer is available
from June 29th 9AM (ET) to July 6 11:59 PM ET. You will have to register
with name, email address and password and sign into the site to access the
records. No credit card information is required. Go to:
http://www.findmypast.com/tracing-transatlantic-ancestors. Note, not all
records are included in the free access offer and if you access the
collections that are not included you will be prompted to subscribe or pay
in credits to unlock the records >from other collections.

When you are on the site and do a search, the results will come back, for
example on immigration and travel with two icons. The camera icon has the
actual record while the page icon has a transcription of the record.

On July 1st there is a free webinar with professional genealogist Jen
Baldwin. The webinar is: Becoming American: Our Ancestor's Naturalization.
To learn more and to register-which is required go to:
http://tinyurl.com/zw35k6v
Original url:
https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=reg20.jsp&;referrer=&eventid=1214155&sessionid=1&key=8EC5D4A2228545FD4FD7BC35F98C9D9C&regTag=&sourcepage=register

Findmypast (previously DC Thomson Family History) is a British-owned leader
in online family history. I have no affiliation with findmypast or the DC Thompson
Family History Company and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Findmypast Celebrates July 4th with Free Access to More than 1 Billion Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In honor of US Independence Day-July 4th-findmypast is celebrating with
free access to their UK, US and Irish records >from June 29th to July 6th.
New collections include over 7 million US Naturalization records and over
1.7 million US Passport Applications (1795-1925). This offer is available
from June 29th 9AM (ET) to July 6 11:59 PM ET. You will have to register
with name, email address and password and sign into the site to access the
records. No credit card information is required. Go to:
http://www.findmypast.com/tracing-transatlantic-ancestors. Note, not all
records are included in the free access offer and if you access the
collections that are not included you will be prompted to subscribe or pay
in credits to unlock the records >from other collections.

When you are on the site and do a search, the results will come back, for
example on immigration and travel with two icons. The camera icon has the
actual record while the page icon has a transcription of the record.

On July 1st there is a free webinar with professional genealogist Jen
Baldwin. The webinar is: Becoming American: Our Ancestor's Naturalization.
To learn more and to register-which is required go to:
http://tinyurl.com/zw35k6v
Original url:
https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=reg20.jsp&;referrer=&eventid=1214155&sessionid=1&key=8EC5D4A2228545FD4FD7BC35F98C9D9C&regTag=&sourcepage=register

Findmypast (previously DC Thomson Family History) is a British-owned leader
in online family history. I have no affiliation with findmypast or the DC Thompson
Family History Company and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Tuvia SHTEINSHNEIDER--Demidovka #general

Sallyann Sack
 

I am seeking any information about Tuvia SHTEINSHNEIDER >from Demidovka listed in the
Yad Vashem Central Database of Names as having been "murdered between 1941 and 1944.

Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus
Bethesda, Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tuvia SHTEINSHNEIDER--Demidovka #general

Sallyann Sack
 

I am seeking any information about Tuvia SHTEINSHNEIDER >from Demidovka listed in the
Yad Vashem Central Database of Names as having been "murdered between 1941 and 1944.

Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus
Bethesda, Maryland


Re: Slovakian Research #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

See also:

https://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Communities-of-Slovakia/17104

- Todd Edelman
San Francisco

Phyllis Kramer phylliskramer1@gmail.com wrote:

Merle Kastner asked:
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly
part ofCzechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but [...]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Slovakian Research #general

Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
 

See also:

https://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Communities-of-Slovakia/17104

- Todd Edelman
San Francisco

Phyllis Kramer phylliskramer1@gmail.com wrote:

Merle Kastner asked:
Does anyone have suggestions for Jewish research in Slovakia (formerly
part ofCzechoslovakia)? There is no SIG that addresses this area, but [...]


Rachel WOLFUS (Wieliczka OR Klasno) #general

Sacha Curie
 

Hi,

I am looking for any information about my grandmother (deceased) Rachel Wolfus.
She was born in the Krakow area (Wieliczka) around 1912 but moved to Palestine in
1936 and then onto Australia in 1951.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Sacha Curie


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rachel WOLFUS (Wieliczka OR Klasno) #general

Sacha Curie
 

Hi,

I am looking for any information about my grandmother (deceased) Rachel Wolfus.
She was born in the Krakow area (Wieliczka) around 1912 but moved to Palestine in
1936 and then onto Australia in 1951.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Sacha Curie


Vienna to Budapest in 1938 #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Dear SIG members,

I sent this message to the H-SIG last week, but thought this group might also have some ideas.
Two family members with Hungarian roots left their long-time home of Vienna for Budapest in
late 1938.  Both later died in Budapest (one in early 1939 soon after arriving, the other in the
ghetto in 1945).  I've seen their death records in the civil registration books on the LDS website,
which included the names of their parents, age at death, and last home addresses in Budapest.
What, if any, other records in Budapest might I find for them?  Was there anything like
Viennese Meldezettel in Budapest at that time?  Would they have had to fill out any civil forms
in Budapest or register with the local Jewish Community after they arrived in 1938?  Were there
full death certificates issued that might have more information than what's in the civil
registration books on the LDS films?  I'm most interested in their birthplaces, if there were
relatives in Budapest (which compelled them to go there rather than elsewhere), and next of
kin at the time of death.  I'm also curious - was it common for Jews in Vienna to flee for
Budapest in 1938 and what forms would they have had to fill out in Vienna at that time? 
Exit/emigration forms?

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, Michigan, USA
joelonstein@hotmail.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Vienna to Budapest in 1938 #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Dear SIG members,

I sent this message to the H-SIG last week, but thought this group might also have some ideas.
Two family members with Hungarian roots left their long-time home of Vienna for Budapest in
late 1938.  Both later died in Budapest (one in early 1939 soon after arriving, the other in the
ghetto in 1945).  I've seen their death records in the civil registration books on the LDS website,
which included the names of their parents, age at death, and last home addresses in Budapest.
What, if any, other records in Budapest might I find for them?  Was there anything like
Viennese Meldezettel in Budapest at that time?  Would they have had to fill out any civil forms
in Budapest or register with the local Jewish Community after they arrived in 1938?  Were there
full death certificates issued that might have more information than what's in the civil
registration books on the LDS films?  I'm most interested in their birthplaces, if there were
relatives in Budapest (which compelled them to go there rather than elsewhere), and next of
kin at the time of death.  I'm also curious - was it common for Jews in Vienna to flee for
Budapest in 1938 and what forms would they have had to fill out in Vienna at that time? 
Exit/emigration forms?

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, Michigan, USA
joelonstein@hotmail.com


Norman Goldberg, Searching for #unitedkingdom

WWW
 

Searching for family of Norman Goldberg born 1910 Sheffield
Son of Sarah Saygol born 1886 and Grandson of Isaac Saygol and Martha Sher
of Sheffield. Brother Harry Goldberg born last quarter of 1911
Not clear on his father's name, the parents and son show up in the 1911
Census of England and Wales with father as Eli and Sarah Goldberg. Eli may
have used another given name at some point that starts with a B or J. Census
shows Norman Abraham Goldberg. Another sibling died pre 1911 as indicated by
number children in the 1911 census.

Bill Wolpert
WOLPERT WOLPER VOLPERT WOLFE Vieksniai, Tryskiai, Kedainiai, Kraziai
GROSSBERG GROSBERG Tryskiai and Vieksniai
BOOKBINDER BUCHBINDER Ireland


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Norman Goldberg, Searching for #unitedkingdom

WWW
 

Searching for family of Norman Goldberg born 1910 Sheffield
Son of Sarah Saygol born 1886 and Grandson of Isaac Saygol and Martha Sher
of Sheffield. Brother Harry Goldberg born last quarter of 1911
Not clear on his father's name, the parents and son show up in the 1911
Census of England and Wales with father as Eli and Sarah Goldberg. Eli may
have used another given name at some point that starts with a B or J. Census
shows Norman Abraham Goldberg. Another sibling died pre 1911 as indicated by
number children in the 1911 census.

Bill Wolpert
WOLPERT WOLPER VOLPERT WOLFE Vieksniai, Tryskiai, Kedainiai, Kraziai
GROSSBERG GROSBERG Tryskiai and Vieksniai
BOOKBINDER BUCHBINDER Ireland

65421 - 65440 of 654832