I am looking for the records of a New Jersey Burial Society by the name of
Moses Montefiore of Hoboken, New Jersey.

The cemetary where my ggf is buried tell me that the Society is defunct. I
assume that is possible but what about the Society records? I know the
Society was active as early as the 1920s and as late as the 1940s -- beyond
those dates earlier or later I don't know.

Maybe there is a Temple in Hoboken, NJ >from the period that it was associated
with?

American Jewish Congress or alike?

Any thoughts would be most welcome. Thank to all of the people who have
responded to my prior notes. This is system is great and the people respond
with ideas are the best.

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com

My fiancee would like to verify her
Hebrew name; unfortunately, records are extremely scarce and we cannot
locate any documentation.

She recalls her name as being Mashi SHENGEL - is this a possible
Hebrew/Yiddish name for a girl?

Sounds as though she was probably Masha Sheindel, both being common Yiddish
names for girls.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

Anyone heard the name Schei? Was does it mean? What language is it? Any

other

information on the orgins?

It's Hebrew. It means 'gift'. I believe it's more modern Hebrew than
the word matana, which also means gift.

One of our family first names is Shea, passed down through the generations.

from my understanding it originally came >from Schmuel for Samuel. We have

always spelled it Shea except for my cousin who is female and it is her middle
name spelled Shay. Hope this helps

Gloria (Rutstein)Lenon

Hello,

I am trying to locate a missing branch of my grandmother's family.

Grandmother's oldest sister - first name not known - was a RZEPSKI from
the Kocubince/Kopyczynce area, district of Husiatyn in what is now
Ukraine. She may have been born in the village of Suchostaw (just north
of Kopyczynce). She married a man whose last name was LIPUT (LIPUTA?)
first name not known.

They had 3 sons all born in the late 1880s or early 1890s - Jan (John),
Anton (Tony) and Josef (Joe). John and Tony were in Canada for a few
years and returned to the "old" country around 1920 never to be heard

from again. Joe apparently died before 1920 under strange circumstances

but not as a result of WWI.

Would anyone with ANY information on this family please contact me
directly at s.r.chernoff@sk.sympatico.ca

Thank you.

Rita Chernoff
Yorkton, Canada
s.r.chernoff@sk.sympatico.ca

Dear J-Genners:

If anyone has access to records of Jews in the Austrian army, and if these
records are indexed alphabeticall , so that names are easy to find, could
you please look for my husband's grandfather, Julius/Juda WEGNER (b.
1863 in Vienna) , who served as an army bandleader in that Army during WW1
and maybe even before the war. He survived the war -- we think he died
around 1926. The name is definitely spelled WEGNER (not Wagner).

Thank you.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

Hi everyone...Does anyone know if the city housing projects in Brooklyn keep
archives? I'm looking for a tenant list >from 1970. The name of the project
is Marlboro Houses on Stillwell Ave. in Brooklyn. I phoned the "applications"
office yesterday and the man I spoke with was (reluctantly) kind enough to fax
a map of the complex. However, he had no clue as to where I might find a
tenant list >from 1970.
I am determined to find my grandmother's sister, Mollie who lived there in
1970. It's very possible that she is still alive. Thank you all for your
help.

By the way, I am going to the Los Angeles Central Library tomorrow and would
be happy to do a lookup for someone.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas

I am looking for the records of a New Jersey Burial Society by the name of
Moses Montefiore of Hoboken, New Jersey.

The cemetary where my ggf is buried tell me that the Society is defunct. I
assume that is possible but what about the Society records? I know the
Society was active as early as the 1920s and as late as the 1940s -- beyond
those dates earlier or later I don't know.

Maybe there is a Temple in Hoboken, NJ >from the period that it was associated
with?

American Jewish Congress or alike?

Any thoughts would be most welcome. Thank to all of the people who have
responded to my prior notes. This is system is great and the people respond
with ideas are the best.

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com

My fiancee would like to verify her
Hebrew name; unfortunately, records are extremely scarce and we cannot
locate any documentation.

She recalls her name as being Mashi SHENGEL - is this a possible
Hebrew/Yiddish name for a girl?

Sounds as though she was probably Masha Sheindel, both being common Yiddish
names for girls.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

Anyone heard the name Schei? Was does it mean? What language is it? Any

other

information on the orgins?

It's Hebrew. It means 'gift'. I believe it's more modern Hebrew than
the word matana, which also means gift.

One of our family first names is Shea, passed down through the generations.

from my understanding it originally came >from Schmuel for Samuel. We have

always spelled it Shea except for my cousin who is female and it is her middle
name spelled Shay. Hope this helps

Gloria (Rutstein)Lenon

Hello,

I am trying to locate a missing branch of my grandmother's family.

Grandmother's oldest sister - first name not known - was a RZEPSKI from
the Kocubince/Kopyczynce area, district of Husiatyn in what is now
Ukraine. She may have been born in the village of Suchostaw (just north
of Kopyczynce). She married a man whose last name was LIPUT (LIPUTA?)
first name not known.

They had 3 sons all born in the late 1880s or early 1890s - Jan (John),
Anton (Tony) and Josef (Joe). John and Tony were in Canada for a few
years and returned to the "old" country around 1920 never to be heard

from again. Joe apparently died before 1920 under strange circumstances

but not as a result of WWI.

Would anyone with ANY information on this family please contact me
directly at s.r.chernoff@sk.sympatico.ca

Thank you.

Rita Chernoff
Yorkton, Canada
s.r.chernoff@sk.sympatico.ca

Dear J-Genners:

If anyone has access to records of Jews in the Austrian army, and if these
records are indexed alphabeticall , so that names are easy to find, could
you please look for my husband's grandfather, Julius/Juda WEGNER (b.
1863 in Vienna) , who served as an army bandleader in that Army during WW1
and maybe even before the war. He survived the war -- we think he died
around 1926. The name is definitely spelled WEGNER (not Wagner).

Thank you.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

Hi everyone...Does anyone know if the city housing projects in Brooklyn keep
archives? I'm looking for a tenant list >from 1970. The name of the project
is Marlboro Houses on Stillwell Ave. in Brooklyn. I phoned the "applications"
office yesterday and the man I spoke with was (reluctantly) kind enough to fax
a map of the complex. However, he had no clue as to where I might find a
tenant list >from 1970.
I am determined to find my grandmother's sister, Mollie who lived there in
1970. It's very possible that she is still alive. Thank you all for your
help.

By the way, I am going to the Los Angeles Central Library tomorrow and would
be happy to do a lookup for someone.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas

I live in the boondocks and do not have access to Beider's books
on Jewish surnames. I would be very grateful if someone would
look in Beider's books for Poland and Russian empire and tell
me if Gortinsky is listed and for what towns. I would appreciate
the full title and page of the listing in the reply. This will
be a mitzvah that will help siblings to be reunited.
With thanks, Helene Kenvin

Michael Bernet wrote:

<<4.FOOKS {Poland}
Probably an anglicized soundalike for Fuchs, which is German for "fox."
A common Jewish last name but, unlike names for deer, wolf, bear, is rarely or
never used as a Hebrew first name. An ancestor may have been a dealer in fox
furs (used to make the shtraimel, the fox-trimmed hats of Polish gentry, later
adopted by Hassisim) or to have worn a fox fur, or to have used the emblem of
a fox to designate his home or his business>>

While this may be the origin of some surnames FUCHS (note the plural; the name
probably arose independently multiple times), I have seen the name as a
variant form of VOHS. This name, which has multiple variants, is commonly
associated with the Hebrew name Uri, through the Greek name Phoebus; both
carry the meaning of "light." This name has been discussed at length in
JewishGen, and interested readers can check the archive for the whole story.
My personal impression, for which I have no direct evidence, is that FUCHS is
related to Uri at least as often as it is to foxes, and possibly much more
often. Light figures prominently in Jewish writing, thought, and legend,
while foxes, unlike lions, wolves, bears, and deer (all sources for common
names), do not.

Contrary to what one might think, Michael J. Fox has no known Jewish ancestry.
;-)}

--
Dick Plotz
Providence RI
Dick@Plotz.com

Subject: Schei as a first name

Anyone heard the name Schei? Was does it mean? What language is it? Any other
information on the orgins?

Schei (pronounced like English "shy") would be the German transliteration
for the name more familiar to us as "Shaye" in English transliteration.
In other words, it is a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew name Ye-shay-ahu
(Isaiah).

However, you say your ancestor's name was Samuel. Since the Hebrew for
this is "Shemuel", it's theoretically possible that the initial "SH" sound
generated the nickname "Schei. " Normally, though, this represents
Yeshayahu, not Shemuel.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

I live in the boondocks and do not have access to Beider's books
on Jewish surnames. I would be very grateful if someone would
look in Beider's books for Poland and Russian empire and tell
me if Gortinsky is listed and for what towns. I would appreciate
the full title and page of the listing in the reply. This will
be a mitzvah that will help siblings to be reunited.
With thanks, Helene Kenvin

Michael Bernet wrote:

<<4.FOOKS {Poland}
Probably an anglicized soundalike for Fuchs, which is German for "fox."
A common Jewish last name but, unlike names for deer, wolf, bear, is rarely or
never used as a Hebrew first name. An ancestor may have been a dealer in fox
furs (used to make the shtraimel, the fox-trimmed hats of Polish gentry, later
adopted by Hassisim) or to have worn a fox fur, or to have used the emblem of
a fox to designate his home or his business>>

While this may be the origin of some surnames FUCHS (note the plural; the name
probably arose independently multiple times), I have seen the name as a
variant form of VOHS. This name, which has multiple variants, is commonly
associated with the Hebrew name Uri, through the Greek name Phoebus; both
carry the meaning of "light." This name has been discussed at length in
JewishGen, and interested readers can check the archive for the whole story.
My personal impression, for which I have no direct evidence, is that FUCHS is
related to Uri at least as often as it is to foxes, and possibly much more
often. Light figures prominently in Jewish writing, thought, and legend,
while foxes, unlike lions, wolves, bears, and deer (all sources for common
names), do not.

Contrary to what one might think, Michael J. Fox has no known Jewish ancestry.
;-)}

--
Dick Plotz
Providence RI
Dick@Plotz.com

Subject: Schei as a first name

Anyone heard the name Schei? Was does it mean? What language is it? Any other
information on the orgins?

Schei (pronounced like English "shy") would be the German transliteration
for the name more familiar to us as "Shaye" in English transliteration.
In other words, it is a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew name Ye-shay-ahu
(Isaiah).

However, you say your ancestor's name was Samuel. Since the Hebrew for
this is "Shemuel", it's theoretically possible that the initial "SH" sound
generated the nickname "Schei. " Normally, though, this represents
Yeshayahu, not Shemuel.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu

Friends

I have received several translations and they all come down to more or less
the same translations. You even suggested me what should have been the letters as some resemble others very much (look alike). As I said I am an amateur nitwit in Hebrew!

Thanks for your fantastic help I will make good use of it. Below is the
translation of Ruben Vis , actually he is >from Rotterdam, my native town
too and he seems to know the name of the burial society
I copied(used) some of the text(words) you have send to me .

1. Herinneringssteen
a memorial stone


2. van het (nieuwe) pieuze genootschap
of the ( new) burial society

3. Menachem Aweliem hechadasja (Troost der Treurenden)
comfort to the mourners

4. op het graf
on the grave of

5. van Beile dochter van Abraham, geboren uit
Beile daughter of Abraham , born from


6. Klaar, de vrouw van Mozes van Daelen
Klaar, wife of Mozes van Daelen

7. overleden 19 niesan
died 19 niesan

8. 5698 volgens de kleine telling (waarbij het 5-duizend-tal wordt
weggelaten in de schrijfwijze)
698 lifrat katan refers to the fact the thousands figure is left out of the
date so the actual year is 5698

9. Moge haar ziel gebundeld worden in de bundel van het leven
may her soul be bound up in the bondsof (eternal) life

I like to end with saying I am a little jealous of you . I have tried to
master the language but every time I came to the onlusion it was eiher too
difficult or had not enough time to learn .

Regards

Rene van Wijngaarden/Etten-leur

MODERATOR'S NOTE: I think this message indicates we can bring this thread to a conclusion.

I am looking at a list of tombstone inscriptions >from the Jewish
cemetery in Binsfurth
(Hessen), and I have come across a few abbreviations that I do not
understand:

1. Sg"L
As in the following inscription:
Gela, Ehefrau des Elchanan Sg"L aus Spangenberg

There was a family called Spangenthal in Spangenberg; could Sg"L be an
abbreviation for that name? As in the following inscription:
Jitel, Ehefrau des Hona Sg"L aus Spangenberg, gest. 10.4.1850 [Jette
Levi
Spangenthal, 68J]

2. N"B"H
As in the following inscription:
Joseph, Sohn des Ruben Sg"L, N"B"H gestorben 17.7.1829

3. sel.A
As in the following inscription:
Chawer Meier, Sohn des Reuben ha-Levi sel.A aus Spangenberg.

Any input would be much appreciated. In advance, many thanks.
Cheers, Chris