I have recently requested information on my grandfather's military
records and awards >from the Austrian National Archive's
Kriegsarchiv. I had seen some encouraging notes in some ftp files
about writing to the Kriegsarchiv for information on military records.
Then I read the discouraging posts in the JewishGen archive (I just
joined JewishGen today) about getting Jewish records >from Austria and,
in particular, >from the War Archives.

Am I correct in concluding that JewishGen list members have generally
not had good experiences with the Austrian War Archives? I am
wondering if anyone on this list has had a fruitful response from
them. I am not feeling encouraged.

Anyway, my grandfather's name was Ernst WOLF, born in Vienna in 1885,
died in Flushing NY in 1966. He was the son of Moritz WOLF (b. about
1850 Vienna, d. 1906) and Clara FUCHS WOLF (b. 1855-1860 Hungary, d.
Theresienstadt). They lived in the Mariahilf district (district 6) on
Mariahilfestrasse. Moritz (Morris) was a haberdasher; his business was
called M. Wolf, and he was an official consumemaker for the Austrian
royalty ("kaiserlich und koeniglicher Hoflieferant"). He also had an
honorary title ("Vienna Ehrenberger") which my mother describes as a bit
like having been given a symbolic key to the city. They had a second
property in Baden bei Wien. [All this information is family consensus;
I am trying to gather evidence.]

Ernst was the fourth of six children: Robert WOLF (b. 1879, d. 1970?
NY), Flora WOLF HERTZKA (b. 1880-1884 Vienna, d. probably
Theresienstadt), Marta WOLF KURTZ (b. 1880-1884 Vienna, d. US), Ernst
WOLF, Emmy WOLF (b. 1886-1894, d. as a young woman), Freda WOLF GRANT
(b. 1895 Vienna, d. 1982 NY).

My grandfather, Ernst WOLF, was an officer in the Austrian cavalry.
During WWI, the story goes, he was posted in Turkey and was trapped with
his troops in an avalanche. Apparently he rescued his troops by
shooting through the snow, and consequently was awarded an iron cross.
In 1921, and out of uniform, he married Ruth NEBENZAHL. They had two
daughters. The family did not get out of Vienna until 1939. My
grandfather had been detained during Kristalnacht, and had nearly been
arrested once in a cafe. In the latter case the iron cross had saved
him, because the officer who made him empty his pockets was also a WWI
veteran. He saw the iron cross and set my grandfather free.

Ernst WOLF was a generous, sweet man. He was very beloved, much
respected for his bravery, and admired for getting his wife and children
out of Europe safely. All the stories about him are wonderful, but it
would be reassuring to have records.

I am also trying to learn as much as possible about Moritz WOLF, his
business in Vienna, and how he arrived at the social status he seems to
have had in Vienna. The books I have read so far about "tolerated"
Jewish businessmen in Vienna and the like do not mention this family,
although I am certain the information must be out there. This family
was in Vienna for a long time.

Any suggestions, advice and encouragement would be helpful.

Candice Bradley
Appleton WI

I have recently requested information on my grandfather's military
records and awards >from the Austrian National Archive's
Kriegsarchiv. I had seen some encouraging notes in some ftp files
about writing to the Kriegsarchiv for information on military records.
Then I read the discouraging posts in the JewishGen archive (I just
joined JewishGen today) about getting Jewish records >from Austria and,
in particular, >from the War Archives.

Am I correct in concluding that JewishGen list members have generally
not had good experiences with the Austrian War Archives? I am
wondering if anyone on this list has had a fruitful response from
them. I am not feeling encouraged.

Anyway, my grandfather's name was Ernst WOLF, born in Vienna in 1885,
died in Flushing NY in 1966. He was the son of Moritz WOLF (b. about
1850 Vienna, d. 1906) and Clara FUCHS WOLF (b. 1855-1860 Hungary, d.
Theresienstadt). They lived in the Mariahilf district (district 6) on
Mariahilfestrasse. Moritz (Morris) was a haberdasher; his business was
called M. Wolf, and he was an official consumemaker for the Austrian
royalty ("kaiserlich und koeniglicher Hoflieferant"). He also had an
honorary title ("Vienna Ehrenberger") which my mother describes as a bit
like having been given a symbolic key to the city. They had a second
property in Baden bei Wien. [All this information is family consensus;
I am trying to gather evidence.]

Ernst was the fourth of six children: Robert WOLF (b. 1879, d. 1970?
NY), Flora WOLF HERTZKA (b. 1880-1884 Vienna, d. probably
Theresienstadt), Marta WOLF KURTZ (b. 1880-1884 Vienna, d. US), Ernst
WOLF, Emmy WOLF (b. 1886-1894, d. as a young woman), Freda WOLF GRANT
(b. 1895 Vienna, d. 1982 NY).

My grandfather, Ernst WOLF, was an officer in the Austrian cavalry.
During WWI, the story goes, he was posted in Turkey and was trapped with
his troops in an avalanche. Apparently he rescued his troops by
shooting through the snow, and consequently was awarded an iron cross.
In 1921, and out of uniform, he married Ruth NEBENZAHL. They had two
daughters. The family did not get out of Vienna until 1939. My
grandfather had been detained during Kristalnacht, and had nearly been
arrested once in a cafe. In the latter case the iron cross had saved
him, because the officer who made him empty his pockets was also a WWI
veteran. He saw the iron cross and set my grandfather free.

Ernst WOLF was a generous, sweet man. He was very beloved, much
respected for his bravery, and admired for getting his wife and children
out of Europe safely. All the stories about him are wonderful, but it
would be reassuring to have records.

I am also trying to learn as much as possible about Moritz WOLF, his
business in Vienna, and how he arrived at the social status he seems to
have had in Vienna. The books I have read so far about "tolerated"
Jewish businessmen in Vienna and the like do not mention this family,
although I am certain the information must be out there. This family
was in Vienna for a long time.

Any suggestions, advice and encouragement would be helpful.

Candice Bradley
Appleton WI

A woman named Anita Aven >from Sweden sent me some GOLDENSOHN history
and when I tried to reply to her, her email bounced back. Does anyone
know her? She gives her address as aaven@lsto.foa.se

Thank you
Linda Saegert New York lsaegert@erols.com

A woman named Anita Aven >from Sweden sent me some GOLDENSOHN history
and when I tried to reply to her, her email bounced back. Does anyone
know her? She gives her address as aaven@lsto.foa.se

Thank you
Linda Saegert New York lsaegert@erols.com

I am looking for information on my grandfather, Morris Pinkus
EINHORN. His death certificate states that his father was Simon
Einhorn and his mother was Sara Einhorn. We believe he came >from
Poland.

Morris Pinkus Einhorn was born in 1890. Morris Pinkus Einhorn came
to this country sometime after World War I. We believe he came
through Canada, went to Wisconsin and then journeyed to St. Louis
where he married my grandmother. They ultimately moved to New
Haven, Conn with their 6 children.

Morris had a brother who went to England and changed his last
name to :"Shaw." Morris had a sister who went to New Jersey and
married a pharmacist by the last name of "Dell."

Please contact me if you have any information that could help me.
Thank you.
Michele Russell-Einhorn
Bethesda Md.
kahluamr@erols.com

MODERATOR NOTE: It always helps if you tell us
what specifically are you looking to find out.

I am looking for information on my grandfather, Morris Pinkus
EINHORN. His death certificate states that his father was Simon
Einhorn and his mother was Sara Einhorn. We believe he came >from
Poland.

Morris Pinkus Einhorn was born in 1890. Morris Pinkus Einhorn came
to this country sometime after World War I. We believe he came
through Canada, went to Wisconsin and then journeyed to St. Louis
where he married my grandmother. They ultimately moved to New
Haven, Conn with their 6 children.

Morris had a brother who went to England and changed his last
name to :"Shaw." Morris had a sister who went to New Jersey and
married a pharmacist by the last name of "Dell."

Please contact me if you have any information that could help me.
Thank you.
Michele Russell-Einhorn
Bethesda Md.
kahluamr@erols.com

MODERATOR NOTE: It always helps if you tell us
what specifically are you looking to find out.

Thanx to Eleanor Bien, I can finally say with certainty that I am
searching for BAUER >from Kunszentmiklos (three sisters and a
brothe ror two of my ggm, born 125 years ago, fate unknown), STERN

from Kalocsa (anything) and probably GRUNWALD >from Kalocsa

(anything).

Israel Pickholtz

Thanx to Eleanor Bien, I can finally say with certainty that I am
searching for BAUER >from Kunszentmiklos (three sisters and a
brothe ror two of my ggm, born 125 years ago, fate unknown), STERN

from Kalocsa (anything) and probably GRUNWALD >from Kalocsa

(anything).

Israel Pickholtz

An interesting Web Page on World Jewry, with information about the Jewish
communities of every country:
http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/index.htm

The statistics on: http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/chartmap.htm
are also interesting.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com

An interesting Web Page on World Jewry, with information about the Jewish
communities of every country:
http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/index.htm

The statistics on: http://www.virtual.co.il/communities/wjcbook/chartmap.htm
are also interesting.

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com

Alex Miller commented on The Journey to Vaja by and Elaine Naves and When
the World was Whole Charles Fenyvesi.

"Elaine had missed people that Charles had on his version of the family tree."

When Elaine spoke at a meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society in Toronto
she told us that her cousin Charles had written a book about the same family
but had included all of the legends more of less as truth.

She was advised by a Hungarian rabbi that family legends are not to be trusted.


Michael Kelemen

Alex Miller commented on The Journey to Vaja by and Elaine Naves and When
the World was Whole Charles Fenyvesi.

"Elaine had missed people that Charles had on his version of the family tree."

When Elaine spoke at a meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society in Toronto
she told us that her cousin Charles had written a book about the same family
but had included all of the legends more of less as truth.

She was advised by a Hungarian rabbi that family legends are not to be trusted.


Michael Kelemen

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>

Milton Blackstone wrote:

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>

Milton Blackstone wrote:

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman

ari@wynn.com wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh

I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.

Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@actcom.co.il
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus

ari@wynn.com wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh

I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.

Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@actcom.co.il
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@yahoo.com writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@yahoo.com writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam