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Re: Name ELKA #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

David Goldman wrote:
We had an earlier discussion about the origin of the name Elka. I just
had
the thought that perhaps it could be related to the name HELGA in the
same
way Henya is related to the name EUGENIA.

Any thoughts?


Name Elka is another form of Elizabeth. Polish equivalent of Elizabeth is
Elzbieta [Elzh byetah] and dimunitive forms are Ela and Elka (peasant's
variation). Don't confuse with Hela, Helcia or Helenka which are
dimunitive forms of Helena [Engl. Helen].

On the other hand, name Elka is common in Germanic based languages. Isn't
there a movie actress called Elka Sommers?
Probably in this case this is a form of Helga.

I assume that the name Elka in this discussion, relates to the person
originated >from the Eastern Europe.

Alexander Sharon

PS: Just in case: In Russian, Elizabeth's variations is Elizavieta or
Yelizavieta (Yelih za vye tah], but in this case, dimunitive form used is
Liza (Lisa). Russian ladies do have name Ella and Yelena [English: Helen].

MODERATOR NOTE: The Elka thread is now closed.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name ELKA #general

Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
 

David Goldman wrote:
We had an earlier discussion about the origin of the name Elka. I just
had
the thought that perhaps it could be related to the name HELGA in the
same
way Henya is related to the name EUGENIA.

Any thoughts?


Name Elka is another form of Elizabeth. Polish equivalent of Elizabeth is
Elzbieta [Elzh byetah] and dimunitive forms are Ela and Elka (peasant's
variation). Don't confuse with Hela, Helcia or Helenka which are
dimunitive forms of Helena [Engl. Helen].

On the other hand, name Elka is common in Germanic based languages. Isn't
there a movie actress called Elka Sommers?
Probably in this case this is a form of Helga.

I assume that the name Elka in this discussion, relates to the person
originated >from the Eastern Europe.

Alexander Sharon

PS: Just in case: In Russian, Elizabeth's variations is Elizavieta or
Yelizavieta (Yelih za vye tah], but in this case, dimunitive form used is
Liza (Lisa). Russian ladies do have name Ella and Yelena [English: Helen].

MODERATOR NOTE: The Elka thread is now closed.


Manhattan 1920 census names and more #general

jdmeyer <jdmeyer@...>
 

How would I be able to find an Abram FORMAN, who was probably still living in
New York (Lower East Side of Manhattan???) in 1920? He received a visit from
my mgggf Morris CHAVIN, his brother-in-law, a carpenter >from Gomel, Belarus,
in 1906 (Nov. 28th -- came over on the Oceanic White Star Liner without the
rest of the family). I believe Abram must have been married to Morris's
sister, so her maiden name would be CHAVIN.
Also, I was grateful to get many death certificates for free on my recent
visit to the Illinois State Archives in Springfield, IL -- it IS a wonderful
service (at the Norton Bldg. in the Capitol Complex, FYI) and includes ALL of
Illinois, even Chicago, but the death index available is only >from 1916-1945.
Does anyone know how I could get info for some key relatives who died in the
1950's? I have also looked some of these folks up on the Social Security
Death Index, but by then many still were not involved in the Social Security
system. Also, I have a mgggm who died in Chicago around 1887; how can I find
death certificates >from before 1916?
I confess I have gotten a bit frustrated & discouraged, as much of the
earlier info on the death certificates I did find (e.g., for date of birth,
father's name, mother's maiden name, place of origin, etc.) was listed as
"unknown." How am I ever going to find this stuff?

Joyce Meyer
Champaign, IL (originally Chicago)
Searching: CHAVIN & SORIN & POSNER >from Gomel & Vetka, Belarus;
HARRIS >from Poland?; FRIEDMAN >from Wishtinetz, Lithuania & Leipzig, Germany;
FABIAN >from Lithuania? & Russia?; MEYER & SCHRAGER >from Iasi, Romania;
MEYER & COHEN & SCHRAGER >from Russia?;
ROSENHEIM >from Leipzig, Germany & Russia?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Manhattan 1920 census names and more #general

jdmeyer <jdmeyer@...>
 

How would I be able to find an Abram FORMAN, who was probably still living in
New York (Lower East Side of Manhattan???) in 1920? He received a visit from
my mgggf Morris CHAVIN, his brother-in-law, a carpenter >from Gomel, Belarus,
in 1906 (Nov. 28th -- came over on the Oceanic White Star Liner without the
rest of the family). I believe Abram must have been married to Morris's
sister, so her maiden name would be CHAVIN.
Also, I was grateful to get many death certificates for free on my recent
visit to the Illinois State Archives in Springfield, IL -- it IS a wonderful
service (at the Norton Bldg. in the Capitol Complex, FYI) and includes ALL of
Illinois, even Chicago, but the death index available is only >from 1916-1945.
Does anyone know how I could get info for some key relatives who died in the
1950's? I have also looked some of these folks up on the Social Security
Death Index, but by then many still were not involved in the Social Security
system. Also, I have a mgggm who died in Chicago around 1887; how can I find
death certificates >from before 1916?
I confess I have gotten a bit frustrated & discouraged, as much of the
earlier info on the death certificates I did find (e.g., for date of birth,
father's name, mother's maiden name, place of origin, etc.) was listed as
"unknown." How am I ever going to find this stuff?

Joyce Meyer
Champaign, IL (originally Chicago)
Searching: CHAVIN & SORIN & POSNER >from Gomel & Vetka, Belarus;
HARRIS >from Poland?; FRIEDMAN >from Wishtinetz, Lithuania & Leipzig, Germany;
FABIAN >from Lithuania? & Russia?; MEYER & SCHRAGER >from Iasi, Romania;
MEYER & COHEN & SCHRAGER >from Russia?;
ROSENHEIM >from Leipzig, Germany & Russia?


Re> Guberniya overlapping records #poland

how@...
 

From: Howard J. Fink@KODAK on 08/29/98 02:23 PM


To: jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org
cc:
Subject: Re> Guberniya overlapping records

[H.F. - I'm not sure if this thread really belongs in this mail list
anymore, but since this is where the question was posed I am answering it
here...]

Subject: Guberniya overlapping records
From: Hal Maggied PhD <drmaggoo@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:15:26 +0100

Subject: Tarnow Shtetl CO-OP Announcement

This first submission to the JRI-PL online database covers the Birth
records >from mid 1863 through the end of 1870,

The fields include: ... things as place of birth outside of Tarnow,
.....

The 7-year period covered was during the time when Poland was Partitioned
by Russia, Prussia, & Austria under a treaty known as the "Triple
Entente".
A portion of these lands ---now included in Ukraine--- specifically
Volhynia,
was in Poland at various times of the 19th Century and between the World
Wars
of the 20th Century. Especially, along the Pripyet & Styr River basins.
Significant cities include: Brody, Vladimir [Ludmir], Kovel, Lutzk, &
Rovno and
the shtetlakh in their hinterlands.
Do the records include such places as these cities and their surrounding
shtetlakh?
There are about twenty other towns referenced, but I believe they are all
much closer to Tarnow than the towns you mention. The most frequent ones,
some of which I cannot locate on current maps, are Strusi, Ringplatz,
Pilzno, Zawal, Grabie and Krzyz.


Howard Fink

how@kodak.com


Re: jri-pl digest: August 28, 1998 #poland

Hgreenfeld@...
 

To jri-pl Tarnow Shtetl Coordinator: In reviewing the above jri-pl digest of
Aug. 28, '98, I was left with a bit of a intelectual dilema (excuse the
spelling). At the present time i'm reviewing LDS # 0948421, searching for
my paternal grandfather & his mischpacha in Tarnow, surname THURSCHWELL,
THIRSCHWELL, TIRSCHWEL, TIRSCHFELD. To date i've reviewed the first 150 pages
on the roll and have yet to see one thurschwell. I'm not disappointed.
My question to you is due to ignorance on my part. Has the roll already been
screened and transliterated ? Is it in process ? Or do I continue to scan
the roll on my own till hopefully I find what i'm looking for ? Your kind &
knowledgable response would be most appreciated. If the answer lies at some
site in jri-pl please advize.

Shalom-Shalom, L'SHANA TOVA.

<hgreenfeld@aol.com>


JRI Poland #Poland Re> Guberniya overlapping records #poland

how@...
 

From: Howard J. Fink@KODAK on 08/29/98 02:23 PM


To: jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org
cc:
Subject: Re> Guberniya overlapping records

[H.F. - I'm not sure if this thread really belongs in this mail list
anymore, but since this is where the question was posed I am answering it
here...]

Subject: Guberniya overlapping records
From: Hal Maggied PhD <drmaggoo@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:15:26 +0100

Subject: Tarnow Shtetl CO-OP Announcement

This first submission to the JRI-PL online database covers the Birth
records >from mid 1863 through the end of 1870,

The fields include: ... things as place of birth outside of Tarnow,
.....

The 7-year period covered was during the time when Poland was Partitioned
by Russia, Prussia, & Austria under a treaty known as the "Triple
Entente".
A portion of these lands ---now included in Ukraine--- specifically
Volhynia,
was in Poland at various times of the 19th Century and between the World
Wars
of the 20th Century. Especially, along the Pripyet & Styr River basins.
Significant cities include: Brody, Vladimir [Ludmir], Kovel, Lutzk, &
Rovno and
the shtetlakh in their hinterlands.
Do the records include such places as these cities and their surrounding
shtetlakh?
There are about twenty other towns referenced, but I believe they are all
much closer to Tarnow than the towns you mention. The most frequent ones,
some of which I cannot locate on current maps, are Strusi, Ringplatz,
Pilzno, Zawal, Grabie and Krzyz.


Howard Fink

how@kodak.com


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: August 28, 1998 #poland

Hgreenfeld@...
 

To jri-pl Tarnow Shtetl Coordinator: In reviewing the above jri-pl digest of
Aug. 28, '98, I was left with a bit of a intelectual dilema (excuse the
spelling). At the present time i'm reviewing LDS # 0948421, searching for
my paternal grandfather & his mischpacha in Tarnow, surname THURSCHWELL,
THIRSCHWELL, TIRSCHWEL, TIRSCHFELD. To date i've reviewed the first 150 pages
on the roll and have yet to see one thurschwell. I'm not disappointed.
My question to you is due to ignorance on my part. Has the roll already been
screened and transliterated ? Is it in process ? Or do I continue to scan
the roll on my own till hopefully I find what i'm looking for ? Your kind &
knowledgable response would be most appreciated. If the answer lies at some
site in jri-pl please advize.

Shalom-Shalom, L'SHANA TOVA.

<hgreenfeld@aol.com>


Passenger Lists West Coast #general

saralea altman <saralea@...>
 

Looking for West Coast ports for immigration lists,I find that there are
no records before 1893. The national archives microfilm of records only
goes back that far. I found a book " American Passenger Arrival records:
A guide to the Records of Immigrants Arriving at American Ports by Sail
and Steam." by Michael Tepper. He says that records where not collected
in the Western port cities since immigration was sporadic. Customs
records and ships captains lists were available but not kept for any
archives. If anyone knows where else to look for earlier arrivals, please
let me know.

Saralea Altman


Re: downtime #belarus

George Friedman
 

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:03:09 -0400
To: "Latvia SIG" <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
From: Carol Skydell <skydell@vineyard.net>
Subject: downtime
Latvia SIG Members:
This is to advise you that the JewishGen servers are being Wednesday or
Thursday Sept 2nd or 3rd.
[snip]

Carol: Thanks for the warning, but of what? Something's missing >from the
first paragraph, quoted above as I received it. The snipped text clearly
implies some kind of outage, but that's all I could figure out.

George Friedman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger Lists West Coast #general

saralea altman <saralea@...>
 

Looking for West Coast ports for immigration lists,I find that there are
no records before 1893. The national archives microfilm of records only
goes back that far. I found a book " American Passenger Arrival records:
A guide to the Records of Immigrants Arriving at American Ports by Sail
and Steam." by Michael Tepper. He says that records where not collected
in the Western port cities since immigration was sporadic. Customs
records and ships captains lists were available but not kept for any
archives. If anyone knows where else to look for earlier arrivals, please
let me know.

Saralea Altman


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: downtime #latvia

George Friedman
 

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:03:09 -0400
To: "Latvia SIG" <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
From: Carol Skydell <skydell@vineyard.net>
Subject: downtime
Latvia SIG Members:
This is to advise you that the JewishGen servers are being Wednesday or
Thursday Sept 2nd or 3rd.
[snip]

Carol: Thanks for the warning, but of what? Something's missing >from the
first paragraph, quoted above as I received it. The snipped text clearly
implies some kind of outage, but that's all I could figure out.

George Friedman


Searching: BLOOM family (Australia) #general

Tali Hadar <talhadar@...>
 

Searching for BLOOM/BLUM family in Australia, originally >from Ozaretz,
Belarus. Original family name was DUSCHITZ, which was changed in England
some 50 years ago. Family owned Crosby Shoe factory in Melbourne,
Australia. I would be happy to hear >from and share what I know and
regain some lost relations.

TIA. A happy and healthy New Year to all.
Tali Hadar
Kibbutz Mizra, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: BLOOM family (Australia) #general

Tali Hadar <talhadar@...>
 

Searching for BLOOM/BLUM family in Australia, originally >from Ozaretz,
Belarus. Original family name was DUSCHITZ, which was changed in England
some 50 years ago. Family owned Crosby Shoe factory in Melbourne,
Australia. I would be happy to hear >from and share what I know and
regain some lost relations.

TIA. A happy and healthy New Year to all.
Tali Hadar
Kibbutz Mizra, Israel


Searching: GOLDMAN (Poland) #general

Tali Hadar <talhadar@...>
 

Searching for family of Esther Feige GOLDMAN, daughter of Sarah SIMON
and Zavel GOLDMAN of Poland. Came with family to Brooklyn, NY in 1902.
Married Morris ZIONTZ. Died in childbirth on June 14, 1926.
TIA. A Happy and Healthy New Year to all

Tali Hadar
Kibbutz Mizra, Israel


Bronx Web Site #general

Richard Gordon <rgordon@...>
 

I'm sending this post mostly to let JewishGenner's with "Bronx roots"
know about "The Bronx Board" (www.bronxboard.com). It is a free
website (with which I am not affiliated in any way other than as a
frequent user) specifically for ex-Bronxites. The board has lots of
general reminiscing about the Bronx etc... "Looking for
so and so..." posts are welcome there.

Hope it helps,
Richard Gordon
rgordon@pipeline.com
Rearching: GOTTFURCHT - Buczacz, Galicia; New York City; anywhere?
ROSENBLUM - Buczacz, Galicia, New York City
MAAS - Manheim, Germany; London, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: GOLDMAN (Poland) #general

Tali Hadar <talhadar@...>
 

Searching for family of Esther Feige GOLDMAN, daughter of Sarah SIMON
and Zavel GOLDMAN of Poland. Came with family to Brooklyn, NY in 1902.
Married Morris ZIONTZ. Died in childbirth on June 14, 1926.
TIA. A Happy and Healthy New Year to all

Tali Hadar
Kibbutz Mizra, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bronx Web Site #general

Richard Gordon <rgordon@...>
 

I'm sending this post mostly to let JewishGenner's with "Bronx roots"
know about "The Bronx Board" (www.bronxboard.com). It is a free
website (with which I am not affiliated in any way other than as a
frequent user) specifically for ex-Bronxites. The board has lots of
general reminiscing about the Bronx etc... "Looking for
so and so..." posts are welcome there.

Hope it helps,
Richard Gordon
rgordon@pipeline.com
Rearching: GOTTFURCHT - Buczacz, Galicia; New York City; anywhere?
ROSENBLUM - Buczacz, Galicia, New York City
MAAS - Manheim, Germany; London, England


Searching: HASSON from Rhodes #general

Albert Hasson <ahasson@...>
 

I am trying to build my family tree and trying to find any info on the
HASSON family in Rhodes : names, birth dates ,dates of death ,family link, etc.)

If somebody has that info please contact me privately by e-mail.

Thanks,
Albert HASSON


missing word...sorry #lithuania

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

LitvakSiggers....
The missing word is "moved"

the text of my downtime message should have read

"This is to advise you that the JewishGen servers are being moved
Wednesday or Thursday Sept 2nd or 3rd."