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Writing a letter in Polish #general

Peter Blood <BLOODP1@...>
 

I plan to write Poland to request information on a relative who lived in
Nowy Targ, Austria, before that region became part of Poland. I have the
address of the regional government. I need to locate resources to help
me write the letter and someone who could assit me in translating it
into Polish. I do not know any Polish. Any suggestions?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Writing a letter in Polish #general

Peter Blood <BLOODP1@...>
 

I plan to write Poland to request information on a relative who lived in
Nowy Targ, Austria, before that region became part of Poland. I have the
address of the regional government. I need to locate resources to help
me write the letter and someone who could assit me in translating it
into Polish. I do not know any Polish. Any suggestions?


Re: How to pronounce name of Russian town? #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article
<LYR6197-7023--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@NEWSPOST.NEWSGUY.COM>, Norman
Feldman <felvelnic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

The town is "Dzhalil"--can someone write the pronounciation for me? Would
anyone know where the town is in relation to Lithuania?
"Dzh" is just the Russian way of expressing the English "J" sound, since they
don't have a letter in their alphabet that has this sound.
Therefore, the name is Ja-LEEL (I'm guessing it's stressed on the 2nd
syllable).

Sorry, I don't have a Soviet Atlas nearby to check its location.

--Gary Goldberg

(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


Re: How to pronounce name of Russian town? #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:19:37, felvelnic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Norman
Feldman) 'llowed:

 The town is "Dzhalil"--can someone write the pronounciation for me? Would
 anyone know where the town is in relation to Lithuania?

 Thanks for your help,


Somehow this does not look like a Russian placename.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

(Remove "takeout" >from domain; change "sheol" to "stan". Sorry

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: NEACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER.
from Iasi in Romania: GRISARU, VATARU.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to pronounce name of Russian town? #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article
<LYR6197-7023--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@NEWSPOST.NEWSGUY.COM>, Norman
Feldman <felvelnic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

The town is "Dzhalil"--can someone write the pronounciation for me? Would
anyone know where the town is in relation to Lithuania?
"Dzh" is just the Russian way of expressing the English "J" sound, since they
don't have a letter in their alphabet that has this sound.
Therefore, the name is Ja-LEEL (I'm guessing it's stressed on the 2nd
syllable).

Sorry, I don't have a Soviet Atlas nearby to check its location.

--Gary Goldberg

(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to pronounce name of Russian town? #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:19:37, felvelnic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Norman
Feldman) 'llowed:

 The town is "Dzhalil"--can someone write the pronounciation for me? Would
 anyone know where the town is in relation to Lithuania?

 Thanks for your help,


Somehow this does not look like a Russian placename.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

(Remove "takeout" >from domain; change "sheol" to "stan". Sorry

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: NEACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER.
from Iasi in Romania: GRISARU, VATARU.


Rabbi Avraham Abba (ben Shlomo?) #general

Stephen Rabinowitz <srabinow@...>
 

I am looking for information about Rabbi Avraham Abba, who was probably born
in about 1760. He was the father of Szaya, who married in Piotrkow
Trybunalski, Poland in 1815, and later took the surname RUBINOWICZ. The
groom's paternal uncle Szmuel assisted at the wedding and had the patronymic
Szlamowicz, so the rabbi's father's name was probably Shlomo. Based on names
given to Szaya's sons in the following years, the rabbi probably died
between June 1823 and the January 1825 birth of Abram RUBINOWICZ. Any
assistance would be much appreciated.

Stephen Rabinowitz
Great Neck, New York, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Avraham Abba (ben Shlomo?) #general

Stephen Rabinowitz <srabinow@...>
 

I am looking for information about Rabbi Avraham Abba, who was probably born
in about 1760. He was the father of Szaya, who married in Piotrkow
Trybunalski, Poland in 1815, and later took the surname RUBINOWICZ. The
groom's paternal uncle Szmuel assisted at the wedding and had the patronymic
Szlamowicz, so the rabbi's father's name was probably Shlomo. Based on names
given to Szaya's sons in the following years, the rabbi probably died
between June 1823 and the January 1825 birth of Abram RUBINOWICZ. Any
assistance would be much appreciated.

Stephen Rabinowitz
Great Neck, New York, USA


Sam Corwin's reponse to Valerie Gold #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

Sam's explanation re the name change of Valerie's uncle when he became a
POW is much too complicated. The simple explanation is that he threw his
dog tags away; many Jews did that when they were about to be captured. I
can tellyou it made things much easier later on.

Norman Feldman
Albuquerque, NM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sam Corwin's reponse to Valerie Gold #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

Sam's explanation re the name change of Valerie's uncle when he became a
POW is much too complicated. The simple explanation is that he threw his
dog tags away; many Jews did that when they were about to be captured. I
can tellyou it made things much easier later on.

Norman Feldman
Albuquerque, NM


Successful research on Internet #general

JGLois@...
 

Several months ago I requested suggestions, on Jewishgen, for resources on the
Net where I might find help in the interpretation of the Captain's Notes for
the crossing of the "Umbria" (Cunard Line) >from Liverpool to N.Y. in July,
1903. It was this crossing that brought my grandmother, Basie SOSNOVSKY to
America with her four young children; the youngest of which was an 11 month
old baby - my father. Thus, began my first truly successful "all Internet"
research!

I received some excellent suggestions as a result of that posting, as usual,
from the group. One such suggestion, >from John Weiss, was to subscribe to the
Marine History Information Exchange Group
< MARHST-L@POST.QUEENSU.CA > and pose the question there.. I did that, but
even before my subscription kicked in, one of their members, who regularly
monitors Jewishgen, Harry Dodsworth of Toronto (not Jewish but is interested
in the questions pertaining to Passenger Liners that are posted here)
contacted me privately offering to help. He spent hours interpreting the
abbreviations used in the notes, some which looked like scribbles to me <G>
but which, in fact, had definite nautical significance.

In the course of events I was contacted by the former Head Archivist of the
Cunard Archives at the University of Liverpool, Edwin King, and several other
extremely knowledgeable marine historians. In addition to Harry Dodsworth,
there was Dana Netherton, who between them, interpreted, in infinite detail,
every recorded moment of the voyage, including geographical markers along
the Mersey River while departing Liverpool, the crossing of the Irish Sea and
entry into the port of Queenstown (the port for Cork, Ireland, now called
Cobh.) Even the number of mailbags taken on in Queenstown. Passing the
lighthouse while rounding the southern tip of Ireland and then heading out
into the Atlantic. The weather, the winds, the health of the passengers, and
a wealth of nautical details including the number of miles covered each day
and the amount of coal used.. But, the best part is the arrival at Sandy Hook
(off the coast of NJ where they anchored for the check by the Quarantine
Station. The description of the markers along the lower NY bay and through
the "Narrows" into the upper NY bay (where the passengers would get their
first glance at the Statue of Liberty.) >from the time entries, one can
actually calculate the time in which they would have passed the statue in
route to the Cunard Co. berth on N.Y. side of the Hudson River. All this from
one page of meticulous notes obtained >from the University of Liverpool, which
I found referenced at the Cunard website!

But the best was yet to come. In the course of my correspondence with Mr.
Edwin King, the former Cunard archivist, (who gave me a thorough explanation
of the Liverpool harbor in 1903 and it's "Landing Stage" >from which the
ocean liners departed) I mentioned that my grandmother's route was from
Hamburg to the port of Grimsby on the E. coast of England and then presumably
to Liverpool by railway. He told me that the trip >from Hamburg to Grimsby
would have been on a steamer/ferry line owned by the Great Central Railway
which would then have provided the connection at Grimsby for at least the
Grimsby to Manchester portion of the rail transport.

After the thrill of reaching back ninety-five years to capture the details of
the ocean portion of the trip, I couldn't resist searching the web for some
information on the Great Central Railway which might detail the Hamburg to
Liverpool portion of the trip.

By pure serendipity, I happened upon the website of a railway history
enthusiastic in the UK, Mr. Christopher Tolley. Because he had an
interesting, attractive and well organized website, I sent him an e-mail
message requesting his suggestion for a way to obtain more information on the
GCR's ferry line on which my grandmother crossed the English Channel in route
from "Russia" to the US in July 1903. He replied that he knew little about
the sea operation, BUT just happened to have a copy of the Timetable for the
Ferry and the Railway for July, Aug. and Sept. 1903! Not only did he have it
but he put up a temporary link to his webpage >from which I could view the
cover. (The timetable is actually a 96 page book with a gorgeously
illustrated cover showing the trains, boats and hotels owned by the GCR.)

When, in the course of further communication with Chris Tolley, I asked for
permission to mention this on Jewishgen, he volunteered to put up a series of
pages linked to his website, which show the many routes of these ferries from
N. Sea ports to Grimsby and Hull, in route to Liverpool. So, for anyone
whose ancestors took the indirect route >from northern Europe to Liverpool and
then across the Atlantic, I suggest taking a look at Chris Tolley's wonderful
website:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cj.tolley/gcr-190307-mig.htm

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA]
<JGLois@aol.com>

Researching:
FRIEDMAN >from Beltsy (Bessarabia) Moldova to Phila.
KUSHNER >from Tomashpol & Yampol (Podolia Gub), Russia to Phila.
MEZHIRITZKY (SP?)[MERITZ][MARRITZ][MARRITS] >from Korsun (Kiev
Gub),Russia to Phila.
SOSNOVSKY/SOSNOWSKY, >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub, Cherkassy d.),Russia to
Phila.
SHAROVSKY, SWOEJETSKY/SWOYETSKY >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub, Cherkassy
d.),Russia to Phila.


Searching for BLUMENFELD #general

kmbloom@...
 

Dear JewishGenners,

I'm just starting on my own family odyssey and I am amazed at both how little
and how much I know of my family.

I would appreciate any assistance you can provide with information on my
grandparents and great grandparents.

My great grandfather was Saul (Soil) BLUMENFELD). He was born in Iasi,
Romania around 1865. He had at least two children - Bertha (Berta) and Joseph.

I am also looking for information on my grandmother - Kate ROSE, daughter of
Hyman ROSE and Ida BEEK of Russia (sorry - that's the best that I can do).
She was born on June 5, 1894. I know that when she and members of her family
arrived in America, that she stayed in New York and the rest of her family
went to Boston.

Thanks for your cooperation.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Successful research on Internet #general

JGLois@...
 

Several months ago I requested suggestions, on Jewishgen, for resources on the
Net where I might find help in the interpretation of the Captain's Notes for
the crossing of the "Umbria" (Cunard Line) >from Liverpool to N.Y. in July,
1903. It was this crossing that brought my grandmother, Basie SOSNOVSKY to
America with her four young children; the youngest of which was an 11 month
old baby - my father. Thus, began my first truly successful "all Internet"
research!

I received some excellent suggestions as a result of that posting, as usual,
from the group. One such suggestion, >from John Weiss, was to subscribe to the
Marine History Information Exchange Group
< MARHST-L@POST.QUEENSU.CA > and pose the question there.. I did that, but
even before my subscription kicked in, one of their members, who regularly
monitors Jewishgen, Harry Dodsworth of Toronto (not Jewish but is interested
in the questions pertaining to Passenger Liners that are posted here)
contacted me privately offering to help. He spent hours interpreting the
abbreviations used in the notes, some which looked like scribbles to me <G>
but which, in fact, had definite nautical significance.

In the course of events I was contacted by the former Head Archivist of the
Cunard Archives at the University of Liverpool, Edwin King, and several other
extremely knowledgeable marine historians. In addition to Harry Dodsworth,
there was Dana Netherton, who between them, interpreted, in infinite detail,
every recorded moment of the voyage, including geographical markers along
the Mersey River while departing Liverpool, the crossing of the Irish Sea and
entry into the port of Queenstown (the port for Cork, Ireland, now called
Cobh.) Even the number of mailbags taken on in Queenstown. Passing the
lighthouse while rounding the southern tip of Ireland and then heading out
into the Atlantic. The weather, the winds, the health of the passengers, and
a wealth of nautical details including the number of miles covered each day
and the amount of coal used.. But, the best part is the arrival at Sandy Hook
(off the coast of NJ where they anchored for the check by the Quarantine
Station. The description of the markers along the lower NY bay and through
the "Narrows" into the upper NY bay (where the passengers would get their
first glance at the Statue of Liberty.) >from the time entries, one can
actually calculate the time in which they would have passed the statue in
route to the Cunard Co. berth on N.Y. side of the Hudson River. All this from
one page of meticulous notes obtained >from the University of Liverpool, which
I found referenced at the Cunard website!

But the best was yet to come. In the course of my correspondence with Mr.
Edwin King, the former Cunard archivist, (who gave me a thorough explanation
of the Liverpool harbor in 1903 and it's "Landing Stage" >from which the
ocean liners departed) I mentioned that my grandmother's route was from
Hamburg to the port of Grimsby on the E. coast of England and then presumably
to Liverpool by railway. He told me that the trip >from Hamburg to Grimsby
would have been on a steamer/ferry line owned by the Great Central Railway
which would then have provided the connection at Grimsby for at least the
Grimsby to Manchester portion of the rail transport.

After the thrill of reaching back ninety-five years to capture the details of
the ocean portion of the trip, I couldn't resist searching the web for some
information on the Great Central Railway which might detail the Hamburg to
Liverpool portion of the trip.

By pure serendipity, I happened upon the website of a railway history
enthusiastic in the UK, Mr. Christopher Tolley. Because he had an
interesting, attractive and well organized website, I sent him an e-mail
message requesting his suggestion for a way to obtain more information on the
GCR's ferry line on which my grandmother crossed the English Channel in route
from "Russia" to the US in July 1903. He replied that he knew little about
the sea operation, BUT just happened to have a copy of the Timetable for the
Ferry and the Railway for July, Aug. and Sept. 1903! Not only did he have it
but he put up a temporary link to his webpage >from which I could view the
cover. (The timetable is actually a 96 page book with a gorgeously
illustrated cover showing the trains, boats and hotels owned by the GCR.)

When, in the course of further communication with Chris Tolley, I asked for
permission to mention this on Jewishgen, he volunteered to put up a series of
pages linked to his website, which show the many routes of these ferries from
N. Sea ports to Grimsby and Hull, in route to Liverpool. So, for anyone
whose ancestors took the indirect route >from northern Europe to Liverpool and
then across the Atlantic, I suggest taking a look at Chris Tolley's wonderful
website:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cj.tolley/gcr-190307-mig.htm

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA]
<JGLois@aol.com>

Researching:
FRIEDMAN >from Beltsy (Bessarabia) Moldova to Phila.
KUSHNER >from Tomashpol & Yampol (Podolia Gub), Russia to Phila.
MEZHIRITZKY (SP?)[MERITZ][MARRITZ][MARRITS] >from Korsun (Kiev
Gub),Russia to Phila.
SOSNOVSKY/SOSNOWSKY, >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub, Cherkassy d.),Russia to
Phila.
SHAROVSKY, SWOEJETSKY/SWOYETSKY >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub, Cherkassy
d.),Russia to Phila.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for BLUMENFELD #general

kmbloom@...
 

Dear JewishGenners,

I'm just starting on my own family odyssey and I am amazed at both how little
and how much I know of my family.

I would appreciate any assistance you can provide with information on my
grandparents and great grandparents.

My great grandfather was Saul (Soil) BLUMENFELD). He was born in Iasi,
Romania around 1865. He had at least two children - Bertha (Berta) and Joseph.

I am also looking for information on my grandmother - Kate ROSE, daughter of
Hyman ROSE and Ida BEEK of Russia (sorry - that's the best that I can do).
She was born on June 5, 1894. I know that when she and members of her family
arrived in America, that she stayed in New York and the rest of her family
went to Boston.

Thanks for your cooperation.


Double Burials #general

Schamroth <scham@...>
 

Upon receiving a list of ancestors buried in the Krakow cemetary, I
noted that several graves contained two bodies. I was most surprised
about this and contacted the relative who sent me the list ...he
confirmed it.

Several questions arise:

As far as I am aware, Jewish Halacha forbids such practice. I thus
assume that it was only practiced under extraordinary circumstances.
What were the circumstances of such "double burials", and at what period
did they occur? Also, did the burials take place simultaneously, or did
several years seperate the burials? Were such burials usually >from the
same family? (In my case, they were). Finally, did the tombstones bear
any inscription indicating which was the upper (or later) burial?

I have subsequently heard that there are also numerous double graves in
the Prague cemetery.

Julian SCHAMROTH


TUMARKIN rabbis #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Seeking families of TUMARKIN rabbis:

Joseph in Kremenchug
Dan in Rogatchov
Zvi Hirsh in Dubrovno and Kremenchug
Rayeh Leib in Borisov

George Sackheim
<ZeraKodesh@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Double Burials #general

Schamroth <scham@...>
 

Upon receiving a list of ancestors buried in the Krakow cemetary, I
noted that several graves contained two bodies. I was most surprised
about this and contacted the relative who sent me the list ...he
confirmed it.

Several questions arise:

As far as I am aware, Jewish Halacha forbids such practice. I thus
assume that it was only practiced under extraordinary circumstances.
What were the circumstances of such "double burials", and at what period
did they occur? Also, did the burials take place simultaneously, or did
several years seperate the burials? Were such burials usually >from the
same family? (In my case, they were). Finally, did the tombstones bear
any inscription indicating which was the upper (or later) burial?

I have subsequently heard that there are also numerous double graves in
the Prague cemetery.

Julian SCHAMROTH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TUMARKIN rabbis #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Seeking families of TUMARKIN rabbis:

Joseph in Kremenchug
Dan in Rogatchov
Zvi Hirsh in Dubrovno and Kremenchug
Rayeh Leib in Borisov

George Sackheim
<ZeraKodesh@aol.com>


1936 Montreal--Baron Byng High School #general

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

The following is a list of names on my father's June 1936 graduation
picture >from Baron Byng High School in Montreal. 99% of the names are
Jewish (and my father's, which was HARRIS, was in fact, changed >from KRAWITZ):

Aaron, J.
Abramovitch, Sam (Class representative)
Allister, William
Aronoff, Moses
Belkin, M.
Bercovitch, Meyer
Cohen, L.
Cohen, Philip (Treasurer)
Edgar, Joe
Endler, Herman G.
Endman, Morris
Frank, Arthur
Garmaise, Avram (President)
Gold, Isadore A.
Gralnick, Bernard
Harris, Leonard H.
Israelovitch, Abie
Itkin, Abie
Kirsh, Abie
Klein, Hyman
Kugelmass, Jack
Libin, Isadore
Licover, Morton
Mayman, Abie, I.
Metalin, Gerald
Shagass, Charles
Shapiro, Louis (Class secretary)
Sheinberg, Nyman
Silver, Hyman
Slapack, Saul
Slusky, Melvyn
Weintraub, Lewis
Zuckerman, A.

Please respond via private e-mail if you are interested in receiving copies.

Marion Werle
North Hills, CA
Marion Werle <werle@pacificnet.net>

Searching: MOLCHADSKY (Kossovo, Bereza and Pruzhany, Belarus); RATNER
(Kossovo, Belarus); SKUTELSKI, GETZ (Riebene, Latvia); MINSK (Daugavpils,
Latvia); SKUDER/SCUDER, COHEN (Skuodas, Lith.); KRAWITZ (Mosedis, Lith.)

See the Latvia SIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/latvia

AND the LitvakSIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1936 Montreal--Baron Byng High School #general

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

The following is a list of names on my father's June 1936 graduation
picture >from Baron Byng High School in Montreal. 99% of the names are
Jewish (and my father's, which was HARRIS, was in fact, changed >from KRAWITZ):

Aaron, J.
Abramovitch, Sam (Class representative)
Allister, William
Aronoff, Moses
Belkin, M.
Bercovitch, Meyer
Cohen, L.
Cohen, Philip (Treasurer)
Edgar, Joe
Endler, Herman G.
Endman, Morris
Frank, Arthur
Garmaise, Avram (President)
Gold, Isadore A.
Gralnick, Bernard
Harris, Leonard H.
Israelovitch, Abie
Itkin, Abie
Kirsh, Abie
Klein, Hyman
Kugelmass, Jack
Libin, Isadore
Licover, Morton
Mayman, Abie, I.
Metalin, Gerald
Shagass, Charles
Shapiro, Louis (Class secretary)
Sheinberg, Nyman
Silver, Hyman
Slapack, Saul
Slusky, Melvyn
Weintraub, Lewis
Zuckerman, A.

Please respond via private e-mail if you are interested in receiving copies.

Marion Werle
North Hills, CA
Marion Werle <werle@pacificnet.net>

Searching: MOLCHADSKY (Kossovo, Bereza and Pruzhany, Belarus); RATNER
(Kossovo, Belarus); SKUTELSKI, GETZ (Riebene, Latvia); MINSK (Daugavpils,
Latvia); SKUDER/SCUDER, COHEN (Skuodas, Lith.); KRAWITZ (Mosedis, Lith.)

See the Latvia SIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/latvia

AND the LitvakSIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak