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Port of Marseille (France) 1941 shipping records & passenger lists #france #germany

oliverdmarshall@...

#648298

I am tracing my grandparents' (Siegfried and Clara Rosenberg) journey from Frankfurt to New York City in May/June 1941. Earlier this year I visited Portugal and I found out that arrived in Lisbon by ship on 27 May 1941. Although the archivists who I consulted could not identify the ship, we established that it was likely to have sailed from Marseille (France).

Can anyone point me towards an archive in Marseille that holds shipping records? I'm hoping to find out whether a ship was registered as leaving Marseille for Lisbon a few days before 27 May 1941 and, if there was such a ship, to find a passenger list.

Thank you,

Oliver Marshall
London – England
oliverdmarshall@...

Re: Help finding a naturalization in ED or SD NY for Sosche TOBIAS #usa

David Oseas

#648297

Susan,

As you surmised, the 2 before the hyphen in the manifest notation indicates that Sosche filed for naturalization in New York. The number following the hyphen (122347) is the number for the Certificate of Arrival that was issued. Unfortunately, there is no index for these numbers, so, from a genealogical standpoint, the number is useless. The verification took place on 20 Feb 1943. I have seen the verification done anywhere from a year, up to a couple of weeks, before the Petition for Naturalization (and, in one odd case, even a couple of weeks afterward), with most about one month before the Petition.

In this case, I would search for a naturalization petition in New York around January, 1943. If you have access to Ancestry (your local library may be providing free remote access during the pandemic), I would take advantage of Ancestry's naturalization index collections -- they seem to have more extensive naturalization indexes than FamilySearch. Also remember that Ancestry databases usually reference the date that the Naturalization Certificate was issued, which is typically one year after the Petition is filed. Once you have identified potential candidates in an index, record the court location, document number and volume or date, then locate the actual documents on FamilySearch.

FamilySearch does have the actual naturalization documents for the Southern District as well as the Eastern District. The SD collection is located here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/51903

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
KRONOWITH: Hungary > New York
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL: Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Jx. Gx.

#648296

Bob S:

By the nature of your questions to me its pretty clear that you deny any danger exists to genealogist if thieves hack into genealogy sites like GEDMatch or worse yet Ancestry.com (because they have more customers) and steal personal information including DNA data. If the data held by genealogy companies isn't valuable to crooks as you have implied, then how do you explain the data breach at GEDMatch? And by the way, do you really think that private equity is going to spend additional monies to employ a top-notch cyber security team and the latest versions of security software to protect your data when their ultimate goal is to flip their holding? My questions are all rhetorical. I completely agree with Robert Roth's response to you when he wrote: "I believe a healthy level of paranoia is warranted in this unknown territory."

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona

Re: JewishGen @IAJGS2020 #JewishGenUpdates #events

Jim Gutterman

#648295

Will the Jewishgen presentations be available on the jewishgen website, so that we don't have to register and pay for the larger conference?

Show quoted text

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:58 PM Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

Dear JewishGen Family,

Each year, our friends at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies organize a world-class conference, bringing together scholars, researchers, volunteers, and well-known Jewish genealogists. For nearly an entire week, there are countless opportunities for participants to network, attend sessions, share information, connect with relatives, research their lineage, and ultimately, learn more about our collective Jewish family history and heritage.

Unfortunately, due to COVID-19, the conference could not take place in its usual format. But just because we cannot come together in person, does not mean the conference is cancelled! Quite the opposite. The IAJGS team has organized a remarkable 4-day, virtual experience, that will take place next week Monday August 10 - Thursday August 13. It will feature a variety of live and pre-recorded sessions, along with opportunities to engage online with other conference participants.

As the home of Jewish genealogy and a major sponsor of this conference, JewishGen.org is proud to participate, and will be offering live and pre-recorded presentations, along with our Research Division meetings. We hope you will join us. All of the live JewishGen programming is offered at no charge, but participants need to register for the conference by visiting: https://bit.ly/30q0zcO. A complete list of live JewishGen presentations/meetings can be downloaded by visiting: https://bit.ly/2DpzNsC

For additional information about the conference (including information about recordings), we encourage you to visit the conference FAQ page: https://bit.ly/3a3paaI

Finally, on behalf of the JewishGen Team, I would like to extend a special note of gratitude to Robinn Magid, Dr. Dan Oren, and everyone who has been involved in the organization of this first-of-its-kind conference. There is no road-map or template for what they have created, and they have worked hard to accommodate as many people and ideas as possible. We greatly appreciate their efforts, and for granting us all an opportunity to benefit from what will surely be a meaningful, informative, and inspirational conference.

Wishing you all a Shabbat Shalom, and a wonderful weekend.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

Re: My Heritage - Theory of Family Relativity #general

Jocelyn Keene

#648294

I have had a few hits with the Theory of Family Relativity on MH and some appeared to be correct. On the other hand I have had many hits on ThruLines on Ancestry. Partly it depends on the depth of your posted family tree. By now I have nearly 10K people in my family tree, including many people at my generation, 4th, 5th... cousins. The fuller you make your own tree, the more likely you are to get hits. Both Ancestry and MH have done a good job but Ancestry has many more customers and so more chances to find matches. But I have to admit that I am having trouble at the moment with Ancestry and ThruLines because I have listed adopted-parents for my husband's grandmother whose parents died when she was 16. Ancestry has included these adopted parents in Thru-Lines as blood relatives and I can't figure out how to get rid of them. They came from a seemingly prolific London Sephardic family (though they, themselves, never had children) and so many of their relatives are shown as my husbands relatives at the level of 8 cM, which is meaningless.
Jocelyn

ViewMate: Reading Shop chalkboard - German language #austria-czech #translation

Robert Fraser

#648293

Hello friends -

I have placed on Viewmate a photograph of part of a painting of a village grocery shop. The subject is a chalkboard with 'heute' (today) written on it; probably indicating the shop's daily specials. I can't quite make out the writing, so if someone can do so, I'd greatly appreciate a interpretation.

The picture is similar to that of a grocery shop my great-aunt kept in the Austrian village of Poysdorf before WW2.

The era of the picture is probably 1920's to 1930's.

Please respond privately.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83691

Robert W Fraser,
Perth, Western Australia
Researcher 6342
girof@...

Hungarian translation #hungary #translation

joseph just

#648292

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PX9-RJ4?i=54&wc=92S6-N38%3A40678701%2C41639601%2C40861401&cc=1452460

Can anyone translate for me the note near the marriage of David Weisz and Johanna Blumenthal. It is in Hungarian.

Re: Genealogy Research on LIEBERMAN and FRUMKIN from Byerazino, Belarus #belarus

jliebe97@...

#648291

Thank you Josef for bringing the 2nd Berezino to my attention. I've been only checking the Berezino in the Minsk region https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Community.php?usbgn=-1941267. Is the other Berezino you are referencing located at coordinates 54°54' N 28°12' E? That Berezino doesn't seem to have any records on JewishGen or anywhere I could find on the internet in general and I don't believe it was ever located in the Minsk district, but maybe I'm mistaken?

ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

Sharon Taylor

#648290

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83631
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sharon Taylor

Philadelphia,PA

Researching NEMETH, INGIER and BLOCH in Mariyampil, Stanislawow, and Knihinin

Researching WIESNER, FLEISIG, and KASTENBAUM in Kulikow and Lemberg

Re: Genealogy Research on LIEBERMAN and FRUMKIN from Byerazino, Belarus #belarus

Eric Davis

#648289

Jason,
Try Burial societies with Berezina in it. My grandmother came with her family. Her parents and brother are in the burial area for the Berezina Benevolent Society? Berezina Unter Verein. It is in the Minsk voivode/province and they considered themselves Litvak. Check YIVO it is a treasure trove of information.

Re: Jews in Mohacs #hungary

marianne.hoyd@...

#648288

Thank you Julia. I must say that the Jewish records in their original form are really hard to read. Probably almost impossible.
Cheers
Marianne

Help with Russian translation of Records on ViewMate #translation

Arlene Glass

#648287

I have posted records in Russian from Lomza Poland that need translation. There is one marriage record and one death record and three birth records.The full translation is not needed. On most of the records I only need the date and place. There are two from the Kolaczek family and three from the Lampart family.

The links are below. Please respond using the ViewMate form.

Thank you so much for your help.

Arlene Glass

Atlanta Georgia

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83626

Need only date of birth and place for Mala Kolaczek

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83627

Need only the date and place of marriage of Szjena Rochla Kolaczek and Abram Moszk Gimejnerman #61

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83628

Need only date of death and place of death for Jenta Lampart # 39

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83629

There are two records on this image. I need the date of birth, place and name of parents for each - Chaia Sora Lampart #255, Szejna Lampart #256

Re: UPDATE: JewishGen @IAJGS2020 #JewishGenUpdates #events

stephen gardner

#648286

What is the cost and what time and what technology are you using?

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On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 15:13 Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

Friends -

With regards to the previous announcement, please note that my presentation Intro to JewishGen.org & Jewish Genealogy is not being offered at no cost via the conference. The presentation will only be available for those who are attending the full conference. I apologize for any confusion this caused.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Avraham Groll wrote:

Dear JewishGen Family,

Each year, our friends at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies organize a world-class conference, bringing together scholars, researchers, volunteers, and well-known Jewish genealogists. For nearly an entire week, there are countless opportunities for participants to network, attend sessions, share information, connect with relatives, research their lineage, and ultimately, learn more about our collective Jewish family history and heritage.

Unfortunately, due to COVID-19, the conference could not take place in its usual format. But just because we cannot come together in person, does not mean the conference is cancelled! Quite the opposite. The IAJGS team has organized a remarkable 4-day, virtual experience, that will take place next week Monday August 10 - Thursday August 13. It will feature a variety of live and pre-recorded sessions, along with opportunities to engage online with other conference participants.

As the home of Jewish genealogy and a major sponsor of this conference, JewishGen.org is proud to participate, and will be offering live and pre-recorded presentations, along with our Research Division meetings. We hope you will join us. All of the live JewishGen programming is offered at no charge, but participants need to register for the conference by visiting: https://bit.ly/30q0zcO. A complete list of live JewishGen presentations/meetings can be downloaded by visiting: https://bit.ly/2DpzNsC

For additional information about the conference (including information about recordings), we encourage you to visit the conference FAQ page: https://bit.ly/3a3paaI

Finally, on behalf of the JewishGen Team, I would like to extend a special note of gratitude to Robinn Magid, Dr. Dan Oren, and everyone who has been involved in the organization of this first-of-its-kind conference. There is no road-map or template for what they have created, and they have worked hard to accommodate as many people and ideas as possible. We greatly appreciate their efforts, and for granting us all an opportunity to benefit from what will surely be a meaningful, informative, and inspirational conference.

Wishing you all a Shabbat Shalom, and a wonderful weekend.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

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ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #yiddish #translation

David Brostoff

#648285

I have posted a postcard on ViewMate and would be very grateful for a translation of the Yiddish handwriting:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83656

Please respond via ViewMate.

Thank you,

David

Re: The Given Name Sissel #names #germany

Sally Bruckheimer

#648284

I don't think anybody has mentioned that Sissel could also be Süssel, from Sussman, meaning sweet.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: UPDATE: JewishGen @IAJGS2020 #JewishGenUpdates #events

Robinn Magid

#648283

Thanks, Avrami,

So sorry for the confusion and I think this is a great announcement.

Thanks for the support and for the thank yous.

Robinn

Show quoted text

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:13 PM Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

Friends -

With regards to the previous announcement, please note that my presentation Intro to JewishGen.org & Jewish Genealogy is not being offered at no cost via the conference. The presentation will only be available for those who are attending the full conference. I apologize for any confusion this caused.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Avraham Groll wrote:

Dear JewishGen Family,

Each year, our friends at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies organize a world-class conference, bringing together scholars, researchers, volunteers, and well-known Jewish genealogists. For nearly an entire week, there are countless opportunities for participants to network, attend sessions, share information, connect with relatives, research their lineage, and ultimately, learn more about our collective Jewish family history and heritage.

Unfortunately, due to COVID-19, the conference could not take place in its usual format. But just because we cannot come together in person, does not mean the conference is cancelled! Quite the opposite. The IAJGS team has organized a remarkable 4-day, virtual experience, that will take place next week Monday August 10 - Thursday August 13. It will feature a variety of live and pre-recorded sessions, along with opportunities to engage online with other conference participants.

As the home of Jewish genealogy and a major sponsor of this conference, JewishGen.org is proud to participate, and will be offering live and pre-recorded presentations, along with our Research Division meetings. We hope you will join us. All of the live JewishGen programming is offered at no charge, but participants need to register for the conference by visiting: https://bit.ly/30q0zcO. A complete list of live JewishGen presentations/meetings can be downloaded by visiting: https://bit.ly/2DpzNsC

For additional information about the conference (including information about recordings), we encourage you to visit the conference FAQ page: https://bit.ly/3a3paaI

Finally, on behalf of the JewishGen Team, I would like to extend a special note of gratitude to Robinn Magid, Dr. Dan Oren, and everyone who has been involved in the organization of this first-of-its-kind conference. There is no road-map or template for what they have created, and they have worked hard to accommodate as many people and ideas as possible. We greatly appreciate their efforts, and for granting us all an opportunity to benefit from what will surely be a meaningful, informative, and inspirational conference.

Wishing you all a Shabbat Shalom, and a wonderful weekend.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

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Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Robinn.Magid@...

ViewMate translation request - French #translation #france

Fred Half

#648282

I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83654
Please respond privately or via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Fred

Fred Half
Palo Alto, CA USA
fredhalf@...

Viewmate - Translation Request - Russian and Hebrew #translation

Teewinot

#648281

Hi Cousins,

I've posted a document that is half in Russian (left side) and half in
Hebrew (right side). It's a birth record for Movsha-Meer Majzlin. I
would appreciate it if someone could please provide a full translation
of both the Russian and Hebrew.

The record can be found at:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83639

Please kindly respond via the form provided on the Viewmate image page.

Thank you so much!

Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, FL

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UPDATE: JewishGen @IAJGS2020 #JewishGenUpdates #events

Avraham Groll

#648280

Friends -

With regards to the previous announcement, please note that my presentation Intro to JewishGen.org & Jewish Genealogy is not being offered at no cost via the conference. The presentation will only be available for those who are attending the full conference. I apologize for any confusion this caused.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

Show quoted text

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Avraham Groll wrote:

Dear JewishGen Family,

Each year, our friends at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies organize a world-class conference, bringing together scholars, researchers, volunteers, and well-known Jewish genealogists. For nearly an entire week, there are countless opportunities for participants to network, attend sessions, share information, connect with relatives, research their lineage, and ultimately, learn more about our collective Jewish family history and heritage.

Unfortunately, due to COVID-19, the conference could not take place in its usual format. But just because we cannot come together in person, does not mean the conference is cancelled! Quite the opposite. The IAJGS team has organized a remarkable 4-day, virtual experience, that will take place next week Monday August 10 - Thursday August 13. It will feature a variety of live and pre-recorded sessions, along with opportunities to engage online with other conference participants.

As the home of Jewish genealogy and a major sponsor of this conference, JewishGen.org is proud to participate, and will be offering live and pre-recorded presentations, along with our Research Division meetings. We hope you will join us. All of the live JewishGen programming is offered at no charge, but participants need to register for the conference by visiting: https://bit.ly/30q0zcO. A complete list of live JewishGen presentations/meetings can be downloaded by visiting: https://bit.ly/2DpzNsC

For additional information about the conference (including information about recordings), we encourage you to visit the conference FAQ page: https://bit.ly/3a3paaI

Finally, on behalf of the JewishGen Team, I would like to extend a special note of gratitude to Robinn Magid, Dr. Dan Oren, and everyone who has been involved in the organization of this first-of-its-kind conference. There is no road-map or template for what they have created, and they have worked hard to accommodate as many people and ideas as possible. We greatly appreciate their efforts, and for granting us all an opportunity to benefit from what will surely be a meaningful, informative, and inspirational conference.

Wishing you all a Shabbat Shalom, and a wonderful weekend.

Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org

Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #translation #russia

Greg Tuckman

#648279

Hello everyone,
I've posted 4 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ...
1. Birth Record of Lejb UNFLAJS:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM83566&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccef0dead88064fbd270c08d83cad0053%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637326061012646684&sdata=Xt4edkBXCmkuDZoSey1lKNrgvKSvDGJLKk760gmRq24%3D&reserved=0

2. Birth Record of Wita UNFLAJS:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM83567&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf64357fd3196445b7f1408d83cad0581%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637326061099106839&sdata=Ch9chx%2F5bTM5k1KTv%2Ba2ubedTL1dlFkYh7Sy2W0KinQ%3D&reserved=0

3. Death Record of Malka Brucha UNDFLAJS:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM83568&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5539699c41b8416abdf408d83cad0a71%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637326061182024129&sdata=LVCx2%2B7UfsKmaWwuwfC%2FNLmRylRfrW5oDyRfV0JMc3Y%3D&reserved=0

4. Birth Record of Wolf Ber UNDFLAJS:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM83569&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7e3425ed48b54f3d1a8808d83cad105c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637326061281304955&sdata=g3HrOq2m%2BQ36I2B9JDEG97oSserJaFdEhfe0ZpeKfiw%3D&reserved=0
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona USA