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Re: Why the name "Sylvester"? #names

jonathanabschwartz@...
 

New Year's Eve is referred to as Sylvesterabend in German.  You said that your great grandmother died at the end of 1905. Perhaps the children's names refer to the date.


Re: Looking for family of Francis SOYKA #usa

hpgrab@...
 

Who were Francis' parents? If they were Josef Soyka and Anna, née Pick, then there was a nephew Georg/Jiří/George, draughtsman and engraver, who was born on January 17, 1913 in Vienna, who fled to the USA in 1938 and who died in February 1970 (SSN 138-16-9301). He had probably married in the USA, but I have not yet found his family. If you find his family, please let me know because he is related to me through his mother Marie, née Geduldiger.
Srdečně zdraví
Hanuš Grab
 


Witkin family from Mogilev #belarus

judith.cannon4@...
 

Hi: I'm new to this process and hope my first text works!  I am researching my maternal grandfather and his family from Cherikof, Mogilev.  His name was Louis (Lazer) Witkin born in 1890.  His father was Yitzhak.  There seem to be a number of Witkins from Mogilev but I haven't yet figured out who might be related.  I don't know the name of Yitzhak's father or the name of my grandfather's mother. Thank you and hoping to get some help!
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Judy Cannon
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Re: Why the name "Sylvester"? #names

Lee Hover
 

I had an uncle, born c. 1900, named Sylvan, probably after his GF, Simon.

Lee MESSING Hover


Replies to Queries Sent from the JGFF #general

Ralph Baer
 

Has anyone else who uses Microsoft Outlook to read their E-mail had problems replying to messages received from people who have seen your entries in the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder? Several replies to such messages have bounced recently, but when I go to my on-line mail website, there is no problem replying.
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Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

C Chaykin
 

Perhaps I should mention that the family was Ashkenazi, from Russia, and my father was born in Brooklyn, N.Y. in 1917


Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

YaleZuss@...
 

I've been following this thread with interest and some bemusement.  Whether the online genealogy sites are useful depends a lot on what you're trying to get from them.  Those that post images of original documents are of clear use since the best anyone can do is find those original documents.  Those that use OCR to "read" documents and then post what has been 'read," are also useful, as long as you understand the limits of OCR technology.
 
Family trees posted to any online site must be taken with a grain of salt since there is essentially no way to know the skill level of the person posting it.  But we also need to recognize that skill level and accuracy don't mean the same thing: a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.  I have used these posted trees to great positive effect -- they can be very useful for identifying people who might otherwise be unidentifiable -- but make a point of back-checking anything I find in one.  I don't expect the site to back-check data, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't do so.  Use of these trees has enabled me to find half a dozen previously lost "trunks" of my various family trees.
 
I started using Geni many years ago, but quickly realized it was a kind of tar-baby, once you got involved there, you didn't know what would happen.  Geni has sent me about a dozen "matches" over the years.  They are of two types: people I already knew about, but hadn't listed with them, and people who couldn't possibly be related to me for various reasons, but who had some connection to a person who shared a name in my tree.  No competent person would make such errors, but a computer algorithm doesn't know any better.
 
Conclusion: Know what each site is good for and use it for that, only.  If there are sites that are good for nothing, don't go back to them.
 
Yale Zussman
 
Researching: ZUSSMAN, ZISSELMAN, ZUSSELMAN, CRISS, KARDONSKY, GERROL, KREMER, AINGORN, all Ukraine, possibly plus USA
AKABAS, MALACH, YELLEN, SHAPIRA, SWIG, GRODZENSKY, SALINGER, ZLOTNITSKY, EISENDORFF, all Lithuania, possibly plus USA
FIZYK, THORNER, both Poland, possibly plus USA


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Malka
 

 

Hello Jill,

 

It sounds like it may be the Sephardic version of the Hebrew name Shabtai.

Shalom, Malka Chosnek


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

C Chaykin
 

My father's legal name was Sidney, but his siblings called him Shep or Shepsy. 


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Malka
 

 

Jill,

I sounds like it may be the Sephardic version of theHebrew name Shab


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

David Lewin
 

At 11:41 11/06/2020, Jill Whitehead via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I am seeking an English equivalent of the first name Shapsei who was
the father of Samuel Servian who was a cousin of my grandfather who
was also called Samuel Servian (ne Serwianski). Shapsei and his son
were born in Kovno in Lithuania, whereas my Servians came from
nearby Sejny in Suwalki Gubernia in NE Poland. I have come across
Samuel as being a translation of Shapsei, but this seems unlikely as
his son was called Samuel. Certain names are repeated in the
Servian/Serwianski family (e.g. Mordecai/Max, Josiel/Joseph,
Baruch/Barnet, Abraham/Albert, Jacob/Julius) but Shapsei is not one
of them - could this be a pet name for another name?

There are several Samuel Servian/Server/Serviansky's (all cousins)
in the same generation who lived in variously Liverpool, UK;
Middlesbrough, UK (a rabbinical line who came from Vistytis in
Lithuania which used to be in Suwalki Gubernia until 1919), Chicago,
Pittsburgh, California, Grand Rapids, Toronto and New York. Most
have two first names. My grandfather was Samuel Salmon (Solomon),
and his Liverpool cousin was Samuel Henry (presumably after
Hirsch?). Therefore it is possible Shapsei is one part of a two part name.

I would be interested to hear if anyone else has a Shapsei in their
family and what the English version of the name was most likely to be.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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The Hebrew name is Shbtai - derives from Shabbat

David Lewin
London


PRERO family #names

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi Elisha #PRERO who
married Miriam, daughter of Arthur #DORDEK of Chicago and had six
children - Netanel Prero, Eliyahu Prero, Issachar Dov Prero, Moshe
Prero, Yehuda Prero and Avigail.
Miriam's mother was Sally (Sheindel Devora), daughter of Rabbi
Eliyahu Haim #BERGER a descendant of Rabbi Shmuel #KLEIN known as
Shmelke Selisher.


Re: Help with handwriting on JRI Birth Certificate #translation

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

Hello,

...  I can make out the first
name of her father, Hersch,  but I cannot read his surname
so do I

or make out the name of her mother.
Her mothers name is Jachet Kitler

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster (Hessen)


Departure from the U.S. #general

Crivorot, Sergio
 

My grandfather emigrated from Opatow, Poland (Russia at that time) to Brazil in 1914. We knew that he had arrived at the very beginning of the First World War. recently I got some documents and a copy of passengers manifest of the vessel that brought him to Brazil, in August 1914.

To my surprise, he came on the British vessel Vauban that sailed from New York approximately on July 25, 1914. Other members of the family that came in other dates all sailed from some European port. So I am wondering about a few things that maybe you would like to speculate or answer affirmatively for me:
  • Was this a usual route - sailing from Europe to the US and then to South America ? Sounds expensive for a third class passenger
  •  
  • Would have he lived in the US for a while ? Did he need a visa to arrive to the US in 1914 from Russian Poland ? Maybe this was just a case of immediate connection (the boat sailed Europe - NY - Rio) and he didn't even leave the boat
  •  
  • What is the best way to find traces of his stay in or transit through NY ? I have always read several of you discussing US arrivals, but I never paid much attention as it didn't relate to my family history, but now I am curious about what happened
  
Any speculation is welcome.

Sergio Crivorot

researching
Opatow, Poland - WROCLAVSKI, WAJC/WAJS
Opole, Poland - ZYLBERSTAJN, SILBERMAN
Moldova - KRIVOROT, LIPOVETSKY, YANKELEVICH


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Shapsei, Szabsie often in Polish, is a nickname for Shabatai, like Shabatai Zvi. Nothing special about it, other than that.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Name of Mendelson #names

Alan Tapper
 

Sarah Greenberg,
I have not been researching that spelling but of that of MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH and MENDELEWITZ in Belarus. They all mean the same: son of Mendel. The family has roots in Belarus that supposedly go back to 1650. Perhaps we should talk

Alan Tapper
Sabaalan@...


Re: Why the name "Sylvester"? #names

Jane Foss
 

It may be a variant of Saul or Sol, according to the research I've done..the general meaning of the name refers to forests, and is found in the state's name, PennSYlVANIA, which had lots of forests...janefoss
 
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jane


Re: Mount Judah cemetery, Mount Sinai plot #usa #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Reische <a.reische@...>
to see if the Plot was allocated to a
specific lamdsmannschaft but they have only information linking the Plot
to Mount Sinai Synagogue


Unfortunately no time frame is mentioned but in the 1930s there was a survey of sorts done of all the religious institutions and it is now on microfilm at the NYC City Hall Library .... same building at the Archives but different room in the back of the first floor,

I have not done too much work with the file but when I tried one of the staff in the room helped.  On their computer they had a finding aid with permitted them to search by name and then they can ID the reel and file number.  Some of the surveys were multiple pages with the history of the organization and some were one page and very basic.

Also I believe it is possibly to look at the original incorporation papers to see how they described the organization.  The burial societies, if they were incorporated, worked like an insurance company with that level of regulation by the state so there's a paper trail.  I think the same is true if it was an established shul versus something that operated out of someone's basement or such. 

But all of that will only tell you about the organization.  Some had fairly strict rules about maintaining their geographic heritage or such but a lot of them took in outsiders so to speak.  Relatives by marriage or even friends seemed to be able to buy plots. Personally I have family by marriage in a Warsaw plot who had no known connection to Warsaw or even Poland.  The man killed himself and the distraught wife might have turned to a friend or something to help make the arrangements for his burial or since most burial societies shunned a suicide they might have had to hunt around to find one that did not know him or did not care that he killed himself. 

Long way of saying you can find information on the organizations but that does not certainly confirm the personal information.

Allan Jordan


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Chuck Weinstein
 

My great great grandfather was known in Romania as Shapsie, but when he came to America (1889), he Americanized it to Saul.  His Hebrew name was Shabtai (or Shabsai in Ashkenazic pronunciation).

Chuk Weinstein
Bellport, NY
chuck1@...


Re: synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates

Max Heffler
 

Nolan Altman

Memorial Plaques Database Coordinator

NAltman@...



From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of itsdikka via groups.jewishgen.org <itsdikka=gmail.com@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:36 AM
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: [JewishGen.org] synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates
 
My religious school students copied the names and dates on the memorial plaques in the synagogue.  I remember that there is a push to record this information somewhere.  Can somebody tell me what group collects that information and how I should send the data to them.

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