Date   

Looking for Hilda FRAIMOVICI and Melec FRAIMOVICI #france

Artur Canella Avelar <avelara.can@...>
 

Dear All,

I am looking for any trace >from my auntie Hilda CANER (as bacharolete)
and then Hilda FRAIMOVICI, married to the Romanian psychiatrist Dr.
Melec FRAIMOVICI.

She was born in Bucuresti, lived up to 1930s at 5 Alexandru Balescanu
Street, and after WWII (1946?) the couple migrated to Paris, broken
any contact with family in Romania.
Hilda had two siblings: Enric CANER (my father) and Artur CANER
(sometimes Kanner), both had patronymic name Canella, sometimes
Calinescu, change approved in Romania by 1946.

Appreciate any further information.

Best Regards

Artur CANELLA
Belo Horizonte, Brazil
[Moderator Note: Telephone # removed according to JewishGen rules]


French SIG #France Looking for Hilda FRAIMOVICI and Melec FRAIMOVICI #france

Artur Canella Avelar <avelara.can@...>
 

Dear All,

I am looking for any trace >from my auntie Hilda CANER (as bacharolete)
and then Hilda FRAIMOVICI, married to the Romanian psychiatrist Dr.
Melec FRAIMOVICI.

She was born in Bucuresti, lived up to 1930s at 5 Alexandru Balescanu
Street, and after WWII (1946?) the couple migrated to Paris, broken
any contact with family in Romania.
Hilda had two siblings: Enric CANER (my father) and Artur CANER
(sometimes Kanner), both had patronymic name Canella, sometimes
Calinescu, change approved in Romania by 1946.

Appreciate any further information.

Best Regards

Artur CANELLA
Belo Horizonte, Brazil
[Moderator Note: Telephone # removed according to JewishGen rules]


Re: [searching] Hesse records [on line] #germany

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Maybe I don't know what I am doing. I checked the site for names for
which I already have the death record, I tried Cahn and Kahn and the year
(1884 and 1917) neither person showed up. Both died in Mainz. Maybe they
did not do the larger city yet???

Arline Sachs, Lorton, VA sachs@...
researching ASTHEIMER, KAHN, ROSENTHAL, WALLERSTEIN, all in Hesse near
Mainz and/or Marburg and Wiesbaden


German SIG #Germany Re: [searching] Hesse records [on line] #germany

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Maybe I don't know what I am doing. I checked the site for names for
which I already have the death record, I tried Cahn and Kahn and the year
(1884 and 1917) neither person showed up. Both died in Mainz. Maybe they
did not do the larger city yet???

Arline Sachs, Lorton, VA sachs@...
researching ASTHEIMER, KAHN, ROSENTHAL, WALLERSTEIN, all in Hesse near
Mainz and/or Marburg and Wiesbaden


Kramer passenger manifest #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

Dear fellow researchers I am extremely grateful for the help I received.
At least ten people weighed in and gave me valuable advice. The result
was that with their help I did find the Louis Kramer passenger manifest.
The name on the
passenger manifest was Aaron Kreimer who arrived in NYC on a ship from
Antwerp on September 7, 1898. He and his wife were going to the wife's
brother's home in Connecticut. I feel like I have been on a treasure hunt
and come away with an extremely valuable prize. All my thanks for your
help, encouragement, and teaching me to think outside the box.

Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kramer passenger manifest #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

Dear fellow researchers I am extremely grateful for the help I received.
At least ten people weighed in and gave me valuable advice. The result
was that with their help I did find the Louis Kramer passenger manifest.
The name on the
passenger manifest was Aaron Kreimer who arrived in NYC on a ship from
Antwerp on September 7, 1898. He and his wife were going to the wife's
brother's home in Connecticut. I feel like I have been on a treasure hunt
and come away with an extremely valuable prize. All my thanks for your
help, encouragement, and teaching me to think outside the box.

Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


Orynin/ #ukraine

shlomo.ris@...
 

Hello Anna,

Sorry for the confusion. I have an (not quite sure) assumption that
my maternal grandmother came >from Akkerman? near Odessa?.

Maybe I will come to Kamenets sometime .

My paternal family names are Risemberg (Orynin) and Sandler
(Pren/Preinai/Lithuania).

My maternal family names are Barsky (Ukraine?) and Rochansky
(Ukaine? Odessa region? Akkerman?) )

I also have famliy by the name of Dunayevitch (no contact) . Maybe
thay also came >from your region?


Best
Shlomo


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Orynin/ #ukraine

shlomo.ris@...
 

Hello Anna,

Sorry for the confusion. I have an (not quite sure) assumption that
my maternal grandmother came >from Akkerman? near Odessa?.

Maybe I will come to Kamenets sometime .

My paternal family names are Risemberg (Orynin) and Sandler
(Pren/Preinai/Lithuania).

My maternal family names are Barsky (Ukraine?) and Rochansky
(Ukaine? Odessa region? Akkerman?) )

I also have famliy by the name of Dunayevitch (no contact) . Maybe
thay also came >from your region?


Best
Shlomo


JGSGW September 20, 2015 Meeting Announcement #general

Robin Meltzer
 

JGSGW SEPTEMBER 20, 2015 MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its September
2015 meeting on Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 1:00 pm at B'nai Israel
Congregation, 6301 Montrose Rd, Rockville, MD 20852

Program:"Case Study: Genealogy of Renee Kaufman"
Speaker: Stephen P. Morse

This lecture presents a case study illustrating how to transform minimal
information into a detailed genealogy using One-Step Webpage tools and other
websites. The presentation also teaches how to find records in spite of name
misspellings, and how to analyze evidence to avoid accepting wrong information.

Steve Morse earned degrees in Electrical Engineering >from the City College
of NY, the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn, and New York University.
Architect of the Intel 8086 chip, he has worked for Bell Laboratories, IBM's
Watson Research Center, and GE Corporate Research and Development. He is
also the founder and developer of the One-Step Webpages, used by
genealogists worldwide, and co-author with Dr. Alexander Beider of the
Beider-Morse Phonetic Name Matching Algorithm.

JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may
attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the
sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual
JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the
guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a
meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist
them free of charge.

Robin Meltzer
VP Communications, JGSGW
www.jgsgw.org
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgw


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW September 20, 2015 Meeting Announcement #general

Robin Meltzer
 

JGSGW SEPTEMBER 20, 2015 MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its September
2015 meeting on Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 1:00 pm at B'nai Israel
Congregation, 6301 Montrose Rd, Rockville, MD 20852

Program:"Case Study: Genealogy of Renee Kaufman"
Speaker: Stephen P. Morse

This lecture presents a case study illustrating how to transform minimal
information into a detailed genealogy using One-Step Webpage tools and other
websites. The presentation also teaches how to find records in spite of name
misspellings, and how to analyze evidence to avoid accepting wrong information.

Steve Morse earned degrees in Electrical Engineering >from the City College
of NY, the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn, and New York University.
Architect of the Intel 8086 chip, he has worked for Bell Laboratories, IBM's
Watson Research Center, and GE Corporate Research and Development. He is
also the founder and developer of the One-Step Webpages, used by
genealogists worldwide, and co-author with Dr. Alexander Beider of the
Beider-Morse Phonetic Name Matching Algorithm.

JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may
attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the
sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual
JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the
guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a
meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist
them free of charge.

Robin Meltzer
VP Communications, JGSGW
www.jgsgw.org
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgw


Re: Orynin/Ukraine #ukraine

shlomo.ris@...
 

Phyllis,

Thank you so much for your reply. Awaiting your pics and additional
information.

Best

Shlomo

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:37 AM, Phyllis Ruffer <pnudel@...> wrote:
Hi!

My grandmother's family is >from Orinin (Orynin). I was there in 2007 and
I
took a lot of pictures. I'm going out right now, but I will connect you
to my album sometime this week. I have some information about my family from
Orinin, but not so much. Let's stay in touch.

Best,
Phyllis Ruffer


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Orynin/Ukraine #ukraine

shlomo.ris@...
 

Phyllis,

Thank you so much for your reply. Awaiting your pics and additional
information.

Best

Shlomo

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:37 AM, Phyllis Ruffer <pnudel@...> wrote:
Hi!

My grandmother's family is >from Orinin (Orynin). I was there in 2007 and
I
took a lot of pictures. I'm going out right now, but I will connect you
to my album sometime this week. I have some information about my family from
Orinin, but not so much. Let's stay in touch.

Best,
Phyllis Ruffer


Orynin #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

Sadly, like many towns in Ukraine, we have no Town Leader to be a contact
point for this town. We have minimal information on it. There is a link on
the Town Page to a page on Yahad-in-unum that has interviews with
eyewitnesses to the murder of the Jewish inhabitants of this place, and
which pinpoints the mass gravesite. If someone wants to serve as a contact
for this town and is willing to help identify other resources about this
place, I would love to hear >from you. Please let me know you can help.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, Ukraine SIG
Cmw521@...
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

-----Original Message-----
From: Ukraine SIG [mailto:ukraine@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:54 AM
Subject: [ukraine] Orynin/Ukraine

Hello all,

I have just found out that one branch of my family originated >from the
village of Orynin, near Kamenets -Podolsky.

I would appreciate any information regarding jewish life in Orynin.

Regards

Shlomo


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Orynin #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

Sadly, like many towns in Ukraine, we have no Town Leader to be a contact
point for this town. We have minimal information on it. There is a link on
the Town Page to a page on Yahad-in-unum that has interviews with
eyewitnesses to the murder of the Jewish inhabitants of this place, and
which pinpoints the mass gravesite. If someone wants to serve as a contact
for this town and is willing to help identify other resources about this
place, I would love to hear >from you. Please let me know you can help.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, Ukraine SIG
Cmw521@...
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

-----Original Message-----
From: Ukraine SIG [mailto:ukraine@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:54 AM
Subject: [ukraine] Orynin/Ukraine

Hello all,

I have just found out that one branch of my family originated >from the
village of Orynin, near Kamenets -Podolsky.

I would appreciate any information regarding jewish life in Orynin.

Regards

Shlomo


Re: Orynin/Ukraine #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Yad V'Shem's Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust
says:

Orinen. Kamenets-Podolski dist., Ukraine. Jews were first present in
1582 and in 1765 they numbered 386. In 1897, their pop. was 2,142 out
of 5,727. In the Soviet period, the town had a Jewish council (soviet),
kolkhoz, tailors union and a school with a library. The Jewish pop.
was 1,797 in 1926 and 1,508 in 1939. In late June 1942, the Nazis and
their Ukrainian collaborators surrounded the Jewish quarter and selected
250 skilled workers for transfer to Kamenets-Podolski, where they later
perished. The remaining 1,745 Jews were led a mile outside the town
toward the village of Zherdya and executed. Among the victims were
530 children and 40 infants.

Where Once We Walked gives the population as 1,797 and locates it
62 km NNE of Chernivitsi at coordinates 48o46'/26o24'.

Hope this helps.

Doug Cohen
Sarasota, FL
Lexington, MA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Orynin/Ukraine #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Yad V'Shem's Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust
says:

Orinen. Kamenets-Podolski dist., Ukraine. Jews were first present in
1582 and in 1765 they numbered 386. In 1897, their pop. was 2,142 out
of 5,727. In the Soviet period, the town had a Jewish council (soviet),
kolkhoz, tailors union and a school with a library. The Jewish pop.
was 1,797 in 1926 and 1,508 in 1939. In late June 1942, the Nazis and
their Ukrainian collaborators surrounded the Jewish quarter and selected
250 skilled workers for transfer to Kamenets-Podolski, where they later
perished. The remaining 1,745 Jews were led a mile outside the town
toward the village of Zherdya and executed. Among the victims were
530 children and 40 infants.

Where Once We Walked gives the population as 1,797 and locates it
62 km NNE of Chernivitsi at coordinates 48o46'/26o24'.

Hope this helps.

Doug Cohen
Sarasota, FL
Lexington, MA


New Vilnius Internal Passport Files Translated #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

Some of you may be aware that Howard Margol has been ill. He has stepped
down as Coordinator of the LitvakSIG Internal Passport Project, which he
founded in 2007 after discovering these very valuable documents on a trip
to Lithuania.

I will be overseeing the completion of the translations of the Vilnius
Passports. Please direct any questions to me at <esjoachim@...>.

New Internal Passport files for the city of Vilnius have been added to the
Vilnius IP Shutterfly website,
<https://vilniusinternalpassports19191940.shutterfly.com>.

The files include 4,948 new records. If you are already a Qualified
Contributor to the Vilnius IP project, you may view the data by logging
into the website.

If you are not a Qualified Contributor to the Vilnius IP Project, you may do
so by contributing $100 to LitvakSIG. Go to www.litvaksig.org/contribute and
choose Internal Passports under Special Projects.

This new data will become available in the All Lithuania Database 18 months
from now. At the same time, it becomes available in the JewishGen Lithuania
Database.

Thank you,

Eden Joachim
Records Acquisitions and Translations Committee
Internal Passport Project


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New Vilnius Internal Passport Files Translated #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

Some of you may be aware that Howard Margol has been ill. He has stepped
down as Coordinator of the LitvakSIG Internal Passport Project, which he
founded in 2007 after discovering these very valuable documents on a trip
to Lithuania.

I will be overseeing the completion of the translations of the Vilnius
Passports. Please direct any questions to me at <esjoachim@...>.

New Internal Passport files for the city of Vilnius have been added to the
Vilnius IP Shutterfly website,
<https://vilniusinternalpassports19191940.shutterfly.com>.

The files include 4,948 new records. If you are already a Qualified
Contributor to the Vilnius IP project, you may view the data by logging
into the website.

If you are not a Qualified Contributor to the Vilnius IP Project, you may do
so by contributing $100 to LitvakSIG. Go to www.litvaksig.org/contribute and
choose Internal Passports under Special Projects.

This new data will become available in the All Lithuania Database 18 months
from now. At the same time, it becomes available in the JewishGen Lithuania
Database.

Thank you,

Eden Joachim
Records Acquisitions and Translations Committee
Internal Passport Project


Re: Germany, Hesse, Civil Registration, since 1874 #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Thank you, Gerhard, for simplifying the matter. There are indeed several
ways to access the Hessian Archives' vital-records holdings.

One small detail, though: The Standesamt system did indeed begin on
October 1, 1874--but only in Prussia. The Hessian State Archives'
on-line collection begins on January 1, 1876, the day that all of
Germany went over to the new system. At that time, Prussia included the
state of Hessen-Nassau, but not the rest of today's Hessen. So where are
the Hessen-Nassau books for the first 15 months?

Why, at FamilySearch.org, of course! The originals are or were in the
Hessian State Archive in Marburg, where LDS filmed the collection of
miscellaneous vital records. That collection is now on line as "Germany,
Hesse-Nassau, Civil Registers and Church Books, 1701-1875." In reality,
it covers only the Kassel district of Hessen-Nassau.

As I mentioned a few posts ago, this collection is almost impossible to
use on line. The localities (over 500 of them) are listed
alphabetically, with few indications as to the county, etc. In Hessen
this can be vexing, given the number of places with non-unique names.
Note that the 1876ff. records are grouped by county (Kreis). In 4 cases,
a town and its records appear twice. A few town names are spelled wrong.

Within a locality, the records are grouped by author. Alas, this was
done inconsistently and often just plain wrong. Most of the 120
localities that have 1874-5 records have them listed under
"Standesamt"--but others are under "Buergermeisterei" or "Amtsgericht".
In one case, a book of birth records >from Huenfeld is cataloged under Fulda.

The 1874-5 Standesamt records are one of four main sets of records in
this collection. The other two are: civil vital records >from the era of
the Kingdom of Westphalia (c.1808-13); marriage contracts and annexes,
some going back even before 1701; and miscellaneous Jewish records,
mostly >from 1825-1874.

The Kingdom of Westphalia records are wonderful in their Napoleonic
detail, and in that they treat Jews like everyone else. In most places,
each denomination had its own registers, but the reporting was done the
same way for all. I have made great headway in researching my own family
by using these. Unfortunately, they are listed under any number of
different headings: Standesamt, Buergermeisterei, Justizamt,
Amtsgericht, and the various religious denominations. In some cases,
Jewish records are bound together with others without mention of them
being made; in others, purely Jewish records are listed as "Evangelisch."

The 1825-1874 Jewish (and "dissident") records, too, appear under many
different authorships: Polizeiamt, Buergermeisterei, Standesamt,
Juedische Gemeinde. Many of the descriptions (date, type of record) are
inaccurate, sometimes seriously understating the contents.

For those of us who worked on the Hessen Gatermann project, Phase 1, the
1825-1874 records are important in that they contain quite a few vital
registers that the Nazis missed! Especially in Schluechtern and
Ziegenhain counties (Kreise), there are many "other shoes" waiting to
drop. >from Schluechtern we have records for Mittelsinn, Heubach,
Hintersteinau, Salmünster, Sterbfritz, Vollmerz and Züntersbach; >from
Ziegenhain: Großropperhausen, Neukirchen, Röllshausen, Schrecksbach and
Ziegenhain itself. Rueckingen (Kr. Hanau), Eiterfeld (Kr. Huenfeld), and
Erksdorf and Schiffelsbach (Kr. Marburg) are also represented.

Finally, one should remember that the vast majority of Hessian and
Nassovian church books >from the 18th and 19th centuries are not included
here at all. They may be found in various diocesan and other archives in
Kassel, Fulda and elsewhere.

I have struggled in vain for over 2 years to bring these problems to the
attention (or rather, interest) of familysearch.org. The collection
would benefit greatly >from being broken up into a few sections, each of
which with a title that described its contents accurately and
succinctly; and >from being recataloged in a consistent manner.

By the way, there are no *intentional* restrictions on the use of this
collection...

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

On 8/23/2015 3:20 PM, Gerhard Buck buckidstein@... wrote:
The confusion about how to find access to the Civil Vital Registers of
Hessen can easily be abolished. These Standesamtsregister begin in
1874, are still in use and belong to the Federal State of Hessen. The
older copies, which are no longer subject to privacy laws, have been
transferred to a new central archive since 2011. It is part of the
State Archive of Marburg. At the beginning, shelves with a length of
1,500 meters were needed.

To make the documents accessible to the public in the easiest possible
way, the State of Hessen has come to an agreement with FamilySearch.
This institution digitizes the whole and steadily growing collection
in the new archive. Two identical copies are in the course of being
published.

One copy is given to the State that publishes all of them on the joint
website of its archives. Until February 2015 its name was HADIS; since
then it is called Arcinsys. This website https://arcinsys.hessen.de is
accessible to everybody without any restrictions. There are two ways
to find the desired localities.

One was already mentioned by Roger Lustig. You first go to another
website with historical information about Hessen: LAGIS. With the
(English!) link http://www.lagis-hessen.de/en/subjects/index/sn/pstr
you are lead to the search function. The advantage of this indirect
way via LAGIS: you get an excellent survey of all the available places
and years to which you get with the next step.

The direct way is:
https://arcinsys.hessen.de/arcinsys/detailAction.action?detailid=v282839
Here you find the register for all places.

Another copy of the digital images becomes the property of
FamilySearch. They have their own, less favorable rules concerning the
access which is influenced by the fact that this firm plans to index
all the entries.


German SIG #Germany Re: Germany, Hesse, Civil Registration, since 1874 #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Thank you, Gerhard, for simplifying the matter. There are indeed several
ways to access the Hessian Archives' vital-records holdings.

One small detail, though: The Standesamt system did indeed begin on
October 1, 1874--but only in Prussia. The Hessian State Archives'
on-line collection begins on January 1, 1876, the day that all of
Germany went over to the new system. At that time, Prussia included the
state of Hessen-Nassau, but not the rest of today's Hessen. So where are
the Hessen-Nassau books for the first 15 months?

Why, at FamilySearch.org, of course! The originals are or were in the
Hessian State Archive in Marburg, where LDS filmed the collection of
miscellaneous vital records. That collection is now on line as "Germany,
Hesse-Nassau, Civil Registers and Church Books, 1701-1875." In reality,
it covers only the Kassel district of Hessen-Nassau.

As I mentioned a few posts ago, this collection is almost impossible to
use on line. The localities (over 500 of them) are listed
alphabetically, with few indications as to the county, etc. In Hessen
this can be vexing, given the number of places with non-unique names.
Note that the 1876ff. records are grouped by county (Kreis). In 4 cases,
a town and its records appear twice. A few town names are spelled wrong.

Within a locality, the records are grouped by author. Alas, this was
done inconsistently and often just plain wrong. Most of the 120
localities that have 1874-5 records have them listed under
"Standesamt"--but others are under "Buergermeisterei" or "Amtsgericht".
In one case, a book of birth records >from Huenfeld is cataloged under Fulda.

The 1874-5 Standesamt records are one of four main sets of records in
this collection. The other two are: civil vital records >from the era of
the Kingdom of Westphalia (c.1808-13); marriage contracts and annexes,
some going back even before 1701; and miscellaneous Jewish records,
mostly >from 1825-1874.

The Kingdom of Westphalia records are wonderful in their Napoleonic
detail, and in that they treat Jews like everyone else. In most places,
each denomination had its own registers, but the reporting was done the
same way for all. I have made great headway in researching my own family
by using these. Unfortunately, they are listed under any number of
different headings: Standesamt, Buergermeisterei, Justizamt,
Amtsgericht, and the various religious denominations. In some cases,
Jewish records are bound together with others without mention of them
being made; in others, purely Jewish records are listed as "Evangelisch."

The 1825-1874 Jewish (and "dissident") records, too, appear under many
different authorships: Polizeiamt, Buergermeisterei, Standesamt,
Juedische Gemeinde. Many of the descriptions (date, type of record) are
inaccurate, sometimes seriously understating the contents.

For those of us who worked on the Hessen Gatermann project, Phase 1, the
1825-1874 records are important in that they contain quite a few vital
registers that the Nazis missed! Especially in Schluechtern and
Ziegenhain counties (Kreise), there are many "other shoes" waiting to
drop. >from Schluechtern we have records for Mittelsinn, Heubach,
Hintersteinau, Salmünster, Sterbfritz, Vollmerz and Züntersbach; >from
Ziegenhain: Großropperhausen, Neukirchen, Röllshausen, Schrecksbach and
Ziegenhain itself. Rueckingen (Kr. Hanau), Eiterfeld (Kr. Huenfeld), and
Erksdorf and Schiffelsbach (Kr. Marburg) are also represented.

Finally, one should remember that the vast majority of Hessian and
Nassovian church books >from the 18th and 19th centuries are not included
here at all. They may be found in various diocesan and other archives in
Kassel, Fulda and elsewhere.

I have struggled in vain for over 2 years to bring these problems to the
attention (or rather, interest) of familysearch.org. The collection
would benefit greatly >from being broken up into a few sections, each of
which with a title that described its contents accurately and
succinctly; and >from being recataloged in a consistent manner.

By the way, there are no *intentional* restrictions on the use of this
collection...

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

On 8/23/2015 3:20 PM, Gerhard Buck buckidstein@... wrote:
The confusion about how to find access to the Civil Vital Registers of
Hessen can easily be abolished. These Standesamtsregister begin in
1874, are still in use and belong to the Federal State of Hessen. The
older copies, which are no longer subject to privacy laws, have been
transferred to a new central archive since 2011. It is part of the
State Archive of Marburg. At the beginning, shelves with a length of
1,500 meters were needed.

To make the documents accessible to the public in the easiest possible
way, the State of Hessen has come to an agreement with FamilySearch.
This institution digitizes the whole and steadily growing collection
in the new archive. Two identical copies are in the course of being
published.

One copy is given to the State that publishes all of them on the joint
website of its archives. Until February 2015 its name was HADIS; since
then it is called Arcinsys. This website https://arcinsys.hessen.de is
accessible to everybody without any restrictions. There are two ways
to find the desired localities.

One was already mentioned by Roger Lustig. You first go to another
website with historical information about Hessen: LAGIS. With the
(English!) link http://www.lagis-hessen.de/en/subjects/index/sn/pstr
you are lead to the search function. The advantage of this indirect
way via LAGIS: you get an excellent survey of all the available places
and years to which you get with the next step.

The direct way is:
https://arcinsys.hessen.de/arcinsys/detailAction.action?detailid=v282839
Here you find the register for all places.

Another copy of the digital images becomes the property of
FamilySearch. They have their own, less favorable rules concerning the
access which is influenced by the fact that this firm plans to index
all the entries.