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Viewmate Translations of Newly Found Polish Alegata Records #poland #translation

Barbara Stack
 

Friends, some of you will have seen the announcement on JRIPoland by Nowy Dwor Town Leader Alan K'necht about the recent discovery of some Alegata Records. For reference on Alegata Records, look here:
 
 
I’m the cousin that volunteered to shlep the following pages through Viewmate:
 
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85258
 
The information added by these records is of great interest to a whole circle of us. Any help Polish translators can lend would be much appreciated!
 
Best sequestration regards,
Barbara Toby Stack
Berkeley, California
 
ALTSTEIN                       Mlawa, Poland
ALTSZTEJN                    Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
CHRZADOWSKI            Brzeziny, Poland
CHSHUNSTOFSKY       Brzeziny, Kikol, Lipno Poland
DROZDOWCIZ              Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
OLDSTEIN                      England, US, Australia
RESNICK                        Volhynia, Ukraine
SCHLEGER                     Lokachi, Ukraine
STACHOWITZ                USA
STASIOWICH                 Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
THORNER                       Plock, Poland
TORUNCZYK                 Warszawa, Poland
YECHT                             Lokachi, Ukraine
ZLOTNICK                      Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland


Ship Manifests : Profession " painter " - What does it mean ? #general

Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 

My grandfather was a religious scholar in Lutsk i.e. as far as I know , he did not have a marketable skill when he arrived in the U.S. in 1902 . Eventually, he worked with others as a house painter , I don’t know if that was inside or outside , but my father told me that he didn’t make much money because he was always taking time off for the yom-toyvim or to daven during the day . On all the documents such as census etc . his profession was listed as “ painter “ . However , I just noticed that on his ship manifest his profession was also listed as “painter “ .

Some cousins have speculated that he was a “ portrait painter “ in Lutsk . I doubt that , not only because the rabbis frowned upon painting the human form , but also because it was not a good way to make a living .

When I looked at other ship manifests , I noticed that there were a lot of people who put down their professions as “painter” . This leads to me to believe that American relatives had told people that “painter” was an acceptable profession for the American immigration authorities . I can’t believe that there were so many Marc Chagalls among Eastern European Jews .

Does anyone know what “ painter” was likely to mean to Americans and Jewish immigrants in the early part of the 20th century and if it was indeed a profession that relatives told new emigrants to use ?
--
Henry H. Carrey 


Searching information on Seide surname from Rogasen, Prussia #russia #germany #poland

Bruce Seide
 

 


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Re: Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

Nomi Waksberg
 

To: Robin Klainbard
Hello,
Facebook has 2 Israeli listing under the name Altboim. There are also several "Altboim" listing in Patach Tikva...http://www.israelpb.com/Altboim/city/Petah+Tikva

The name Klajnbard is also on my tree. (As you know "J" is like "i" in Polish. Chana (1823-1893) was my 3g gm. Her father/mother were Szmul and Gela. Please let me know
if you have those names on your tree. They were from the area surrounding Warsaw.  Any chance that we are distantly related?
Best,
Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg
nwaksberg@...


Re: Searching Goldstein and Kaufer #names

Sherri Bobish
 


Stuart,

I agree with David that re-marriage after losing a spouse was a matter of practicality, especially for someone with young children.

However, the Harry Goldstein that passed on in March 1910 was born in 1858.

The Harry Goldstein that married Fannie was born in 1882.

A mistake in the transcription of the death record is a possibility, but assuming it was transcribed correctly this is not Fannie's husband.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Is there such a place as Palestine, Russia??? #russia #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

Hi Eva:

In Galicia, there is a town named Palesnica. Its Jewish vital records were registered in nearby Czchów - https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-498188. These towns are now in Poland not that close to Stanislawow/Ivano Frankivsk. 

More interesting is the town of Palestyna 10 miles from Stanislawow, Poland, east of Warsaw. See attached map. 

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland


 

On 2020-09-08 12:30 pm, evagjuni@... wrote:

Hello all!

I recently found a US census document for an ancestor of mine which listed the birthplace of his father as Palestine Russia.  Google searches have come up with nothing. Any ideas for where this may have been referring to?  This ancestor would have later moved to Stanislau Austria (now Ivano Frankivsk, Ukraine) as that is where his son was born before coming to the US. 


Thank you for any help or advice you can provide,
Eva Stevenson


DNA mtDNA - Newly found Jewish Cousins - Research advice needed #dna

Agne
 

 

Thank you for adding me to the discussion group.

 

 

I have recently done an Autosomal DNA test which came back with the overwhelming results linking me to some 1000+ Jewish cousins. While I had a suspicion that I might have some Jewish ancestry the results were far beyond my expectation. However, I am stuck because I do not recognise any of the surnames and am not able to link to my family tree.

 

I was born in Lithuania. But according to my paternal grandmother, her parents PLATEISS / PLATEIS were Baltic Germans based in Riga. Strangely, my grandmother baked challah, this tradition has been passed from generation to generation since my gggg-grandmother surname DIKAITE / DIKIS. I suspect they could have been Jews converted by The Lutheran Church, with links in Germany, Latvia and Lithuania (Birzai). I am researching the above names to determine if Jewish.

 

My maternal side of the family from Pasvol, Salat and Birzai (District Ponevez) claim to be 100% Lithuanian, although I do question some surnames ROZENAS, VRUBLIAUSKAITE, MASKOLIUNAS, RUTKEVILIS, KASCIUSKA, SLEKONIS and the accuracy of the maternal family tree altogether. The documents have been destroyed and my maternal grandmother’s stories are confusing, her denial of Jewish roots, a very sensitive emotional reaction and deliberate attempts to stop my research made me believe she must be hiding the identity of the ancestors and that the names have possibly been changed to Lithuanian. In the meantime, mtDNA test results linked me to people with Jewish ancestral names in haplogroups H & H1b, also people in Scandinavia, British Isles, Netherlands, Sicily, even a few cousins in Brazil and Iberian Peninsula. I realise dna test is not a valid proof of one’s Jewishness but I am fascinated by the idea that there is a chance my mom could actually be Jewish.

 

I do not know how to best proceed with my search from here and would be extremely grateful for tips and suggestions on how to identify my Jewish ancestors.

 

Thank you,

 

 

Agne Grigaraviciute

 

 

 


Is there such a place as Palestine, Russia??? #russia #galicia

evagjuni@...
 

Hello all!

I recently found a US census document for an ancestor of mine which listed the birthplace of his father as Palestine Russia.  Google searches have come up with nothing. Any ideas for where this may have been referring to?  This ancestor would have later moved to Stanislau Austria (now Ivano Frankivsk, Ukraine) as that is where his son was born before coming to the US. 


Thank you for any help or advice you can provide,
Eva Stevenson


Re: Help with translating family postcards #translation

cindycompert@...
 

Thank you Fredel, I had forgotten about ViewMate as I have not posted on this board in at least 10 years. Next time I will do so.

Cindy Compert


Re: BLUMENTHAL - family relations #germany #usa #general

David Selig
 

Hello again Jenners.  Yes, I am looking to confirm the relation between
Erich and Danny, for whom, as yet, I have not found any official documents available.  i have a few newspaper clippings.  Thanks for any help...
So I need Danny's birth certificate - it seems he was known as Danny....

David Selig


Re: Help to Take down a family tree created with FT Maker #general #records

Chuck Weinstein
 

Jeff,
Do you have a link to this online tree?  If you do, contact the site directly.  The tree may be on ancestry.com.  If that is the case, contact them directly for assistance.

Chuck Weinstein
Bellport, NY
chuck1@...  


Re: Jadovno-ידובנו #general

Dr.Josef ASH
 


sorry David,
I cannot agree with you/
the first "mem", you are right, means "from" (the full word is MiN, mn), but in no text you can find it  with "yod", only M and then the name of the place...
So it says, as I had replied,"from Edwabne or Jedwabne."
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: Help locate this Gulag-camp or village listed in post-war record #russia #holocaust

Michael Turnbull
 

It would be very helpful for you if you filled in the online Enquiry Form for the International Tracing Service: https://arolsen-archives.org/en/
It is a Free service.

Michael Turnbull


Re: finding obituaries #general

Mary Henderson
 

Hi, Trudy!

Newspapers.com is a good resource for obituaries - but it's a paid subscription site.

Mary Henderson


Mary Henderson
Genetic Genealogy Research, LLC
734-277-7420

Please like us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/gengenres  


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:49 AM Trudy Barch <cousintrudy@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers?  Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?

Also, is their anything similar for European deaths – past and current?

 

Thank you,    Trudy Barch,  Florida


Re: What town is Kodmo Russia? #ukraine #bessarabia

cheryl.r.grossman
 

Hi again Fran - As I was buoyant with hope that we could be related I wrote my last message but, of course we're not related, because my great-grandfather never emigrated to North America, for he and his wife died during the holocaust. However, with hopes that there still could be some sort of connection - here I am. Cheryl Grossman


Re: finding obituaries #general

Barbara Ellman
 

US newspapers have included obituaries from the 1600s.  These increased as the size of
newspapers grew.
 
My experience is that obits or paid announcements of death on our immigrant relatives did not begin to appear until the deceased had some wealth, generally in the late 1930s.  Even one of my wealthy great-uncles who died in 1934 did not have an obit, but I did find information on the filing of his will for probate.
 
Where to look depends on where the relatives lived and what newspapers have been digitized.  Newspapers.com, NewspaperArchives.com, Ancestry (usually refers to Newspaper.com).  These do not include many NY area newspapers in which I'm most interested.  NYTimes is searchable for the life of the newspaper or is available through
ProQuest (often available at libraries).  Many universities have access to digitized newspapers.  Library of Congress has Chronicling America for searchable newspapers.  You might get a more direct response if you pose the areas that you are researching in the US.
 
Good luck
--
Barbara Ellman

--
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: What town is Kodmo Russia? #ukraine #bessarabia

cheryl.r.grossman
 

Hi Fran - My great-grandfather also lived in Kodyma, and also had a second wife. They perished during the holocaust. His name was Feivel Zibulsky or similar. I don't know the name of his second wife. Could we be related?

Cheryl Grossman


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

Jacob Heisler
 

My request was for someone born in 1904 and immigrated in 1916, but
was only naturalized in 1956 (after naturalization records switched to
A-Files).

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 10:01 AM N. Summers via groups.jewishgen.org
<summ1=verizon.net@...> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Jacob Heisler wrote:

I tried ordering an A-File via a FOIA request, but I was told I was
only allowed to request the file through their Genealogy Program, the
one that is about to cost a lot of money.

According to the FOIA request website, any immigration documents over 100 years old must be requested thru the Genealogy program, which requires payment of a fee. That should mean any documents from 1921 and later are available for FOIA requests. Were your requests for older documents?

Nancy Summers

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine); LISS / ALPER (Motol, Russia/Belarus); LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)


Re: Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

Robin Klainbard
 

I sincerely wish to thank all of the wonderful people who responded to my request both here and privately. I am so happy to report that through some incredible people helping I have connected with my family! I could be more excited. My 94 year old Dad is really touched that he has located his relatives. What a gift everyone has given and I will be eternally grateful. Thank you to you all. Sending virtual hugs.
JewshGen rocks!!!!

Robin Klainbard


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

N. Summers
 

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Jacob Heisler wrote:
I tried ordering an A-File via a FOIA request, but I was told I was
only allowed to request the file through their Genealogy Program, the
one that is about to cost a lot of money.
According to the FOIA request website, any immigration documents over 100 years old must be requested thru the Genealogy program, which requires payment of a fee. That should mean any documents from 1921 and later are available for FOIA requests. Were your requests for older documents?

Nancy Summers

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine); LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus); LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)

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