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Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Mikkitobi@...
 

Names were NOT changed by immigration authorities. Passenger names appeared on the ship manifests on departure and were completed by clerks fluent in the languages of the passengers.

Please do not continue to spread this mis-information.

Michael Tobias
Glasgow, Scotland


Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

rebasolomon
 

On Jun 20, 2020, at 7:17 PM, rebasolomon <theshviger@...> wrote:

Abt 1925-Cannon St. on the Lower East Side of NY.

My father told us, more than once, that when he was a child he would not eat. No matter what his mother gave him, he would not eat. So she took him to a place where they gave him some kind of porridge or oatmeal thing for breakfast. He did not eat it. Comes lunchtime, he goes in, and it’s the same porridge, but now it’s cold. Dinner, the same thing. Till finally he ate it and he never turned down his mother’s food again.

Can this story be true?  I see from a map that the Henry Street Settlement was near Cannon St.  Any thoughts on this?


Stories my father told me #general

Michael Hopkovitz
 

My father was a Holocaust survivor from Slovakia. Came to US with my mother in 1950. He used to tell my sister me story of the Baba Yaga in Yiddish. He would leave out the last word in each sentence and we would say that word. It was a story of two children who lived in a forest with their grandparents. The grand parents would leave the house to do chores and left the children alone. The Baba Yaga a witch came to house knocked on door and pretended to be someone else. The children let her in. She came in and ate the children. The grandparents came home and saw the Baba Yaga with a large belly. Took a knife and cut open the belly and rescued the children. My father would ask us what kind of knife. Milchig or fleishig.I would give anything to have a recording of that story.
Michael Hopkovitz


Information about Pessia SCHLIOMOVNA born in 1886 in Vitebsk #general #belarus

Jacques Klein
 


Is there anyboby having information about Pessia SCHLIOMOVNA born in 1886 in Vitebsk, and married to Itska LEBSKI from Mogilev
Jacques Klein, France


ViewMate translation request from Polish #poland, #ukraine, #galicia #translation

Marilyn Gelber
 

Please translate ViewMate #82617 from Polish - it is the birth record (1905) of my grandmother's younger half-sister, Roza Fern Marienstrauss.  The birth occurred in Roguzhno, which at the time was in Galicia, later Poland, and now in the Ukraine and called Rohizno.
 
Thank you very much for your assistance.
 
Marilyn Gelber


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Sally Bruckheimer
 

When an immigrant chose a name in a new place, he chose whatever he wanted. When family names were adopted in Eastern Europe, a Jew chose whatever he wanted also.

Sally


Surname of Czeretianko or similar from Poland #poland #names

janetvenuti@...
 

I can find records of their changing name to Cherry but then lose the connection to Rettinger surname.  Does anyone have any information,  I know. That the Czeretianko family in May 1939 right around the time Nazis invaded.


Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

beckyanderson53@...
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 09:57 PM, Susan&David wrote:
RE:  HIAS?HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE
My maternal grandfather had a three hearings prior to being admitted to the U.S.  I have tried to find records of the hearings, which are documented in the Ellis Island records, without success.  I am interested in how one finds the HIAS records.

Also, a previous reply stated that HIAS did not help people until they arrived in the U.S.   My paternal grandfather who left Odessa and was in in Constantinople for over 6 months in 1923, specifically states in the autobiography he handwrote in in 1960s that HIAS helped my family while they were in Constantinople.  Any thoughts on this? 

Thank you.
Rebecca Fogel Anderson
KIMLAT, MITNIK, FOGEL, TALNOPER, KRAHKMALNIKOV: Odessa, Russia
FINKELSTEIN,SILBERSTEIN: Serock, Poland
JAWETZ, VOGEL, GREENBAUM: Bukovina


Re: Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania

luc.radu@...
 

Votkana does not sound as any location in Romania. Many Jews which lived in the mid/late 1800 in the places you listed may have come from, say, current Ukraine. If their children were born in any of the listed placed, except Bucuresti, we may be able to help. Join the FB group Jewish Genealogy in Romanian Moldova.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

N. ARONSON
 

I know a family called Cohen who are Levites. And another one who are israelites. In both cases when their forefather came to England, the immigration authorities had problems with the spelling of their decisively foreign name and on the spot "renamed" them and registered them as "Cohen"
 


Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

rebasolomon
 

Would the Henry Street Settlement have taken in children, like a temporary foster care, to teach them this? 

Reba Harris Solomon


Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Diane Jacobs
 

How was this record found?

Diane Jacobs 



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From: Susan&David <rosens@...>
Date: 6/20/20 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@..., hurwitz.jeanette@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #general

This is a record for a stowaway, arriving in Boston in 1915.  He was aided by the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society in a Special Inquiry case, as Yale Zussman decribes.

HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE
Jacob Batkowsky  age 26,  dated May 10, 1915.
SS: U.S. Colier Porthemous, arrived 10/5/15.  Nativity: Lodz, Russ-Poland.  Social State: G.
Occupation:  Carpenter   $16		Stowed away
Dest. to:  Cousin D. Glasser, 477 Thompkins Ave. Brooklyn, NY
We held of the hearing, pending word from relatives, communicated with New York Soc'y and
received affidavits and money order for $75.00.  We then got him a hearing and secured his
admission outright. We took him to our office where we furnished him with two meals, then
secured a ticket to New York, via Providence, bought him food for the night and placed him
on the train, wired his departure to the N.Y. Soc'y to await him.  We then returned the money
order uncashed to the N.Y. Soc'y for which we received acknowledgement.

David Rosen

On 6/20/2020 8:01 PM, YaleZuss via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Jeanette,
 
Stow-aways weren't barred from entry into the United States. Section 3 of the 
Immigration Act of 1917 establishes the conditions for their admission: they could be admitted as long as they didn't fall into any of the excludable categories.  Before 1917, their fate was determined by Boards of Inquiry established by the Immigration Act of 1903.
 
Can you attach a date to when Solomon Rofer arrived in the US?  If so, you may be able to make a direct judgment about the story.
 
Yale Zussman
 
 


--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


WITZTUM- Rymanov #galicia

Henny
 

My GGM was FEIGE WITZTUM married to MARKUS WIESENFELD both from RYMANOV. I am trying to find the connection with another FEIGE WITZTUM married to ABRAHAM WITZTUM. I know the 2 families were related. 

Family WIESENFELD: MOSHE WIESENFELD, ANNA WIESENFELD, LÉA SUELSA KRANZ + Markus Kranz(DEBICA)
Family WITZTUM: HANNA WITZTUM, YOSSEF WITZTUM, MARGOLIT WITZTUM(1883)


Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

David Lewin
 

At 03:17 21/06/2020, rebasolomon wrote:

Abt 1925-Cannon St. on the Lower East Side of NY.

My father told us, more than once, that when he was a child he would not eat. No matter what his mother gave him, he would not eat. So she took him to a place where they gave him some kind of porridge or oatmeal thing for breakfast. He did not eat it. Comes lunchtime, he goes in, and its the same porridge, but now its cold. Dinner, the same thing. Till finally he ate it and he never turned down his mothers food again.

Can this story be true?  I see from a map that the Henry Street Settlement was near Cannon St.  Any thoughts on this?

Most definitely this not only can be - but is!

I lived through the "Zena times"  - that was the time of the early yeas of an independent Israel.  Nothing was "available".   Everything was rationed.  The Aubergine (alias eggplant)  became the staple food.
When food is scarce we soon learned not to use the words "I don't like it"

David Lewin
London


Searching for records of SCHAFIR family from Volhynia region #names #ukraine

S.geller@...
 

I’m searching for records (birth, marriage, immigration, etc.) for the family of Avraham Schafir (birthdate and wife’s name unknown), who had daughters Leah/Leya/Laika, b. 1886/d. 1950, who emigrated to Montreal and married Menashe/Max Santz/Sonts/Sons (b. 1881 in Zhytomyr) and Sheva (b. 1898, and lived in France). Thanks,
S. Geller
Montreal, QC


JewishGen Webinar - June 24 #JewishGenUpdates #education

Nancy Siegel
 

We invite you to attend another free presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars, with our speaker, E. Randol Schoenberg.


Privacy and Genealogy: What Are The Rules?

Wednesday, June 24, 2020

3:00 pm Eastern (NY) Time (19:00 UTC)


Privacy remains a huge issue for many genealogists and their family members, and the legal landscape concerning records access is constantly changing. Personal genealogy websites, as well as online collaborative trees, offer different levels of privacy protections.


In this JewishGen Talk, Randy Schoenberg (a well-known attorney, JewishGen Board Member, and Director of JewishGen’s Austria-Czech Research Division) will discuss the varied approaches to the question of privacy, focusing especially on ethical considerations. For example, how should a genealogist respond if someone says he/she does not want to be on your online tree? Should minors be allowed to use online genealogy platforms? Can the right to privacy ever be reconciled with online collaborative genealogy?


As genealogists increasingly utilize public, or semi-public, online collaborative genealogy platforms, these questions are becoming more common.


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Nancy Siegel (San Francisco/CA/USA)
Director of Communications 
JewishGen.org








Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

As Suwalki was close to the Baltic, it was easier to get to the Baltic ports either by being smuggled across the border with Konigsberg/East Prussia or by travelling via the Augustow canal (at least partially) to Libau in Latvia. By the 1880's the railway went through Suwalki town and trains could be caught to Hamburg, to either cross the North Sea to UK and then onwards to USA, or directly across the Atlantic to USA. By the 1880's, the journey was done by steamship and many lines plied the Baltic/North Sea/ Atlantic routes including those that operated out of Hull on the NE Coast of England. The University of Hull has a lot of information on its immigration website about these shipping lines. Also the 2008 IAGS conference in Chicago had a series of lectures on this theme, especially one on New East Prussia (which Konigsberg was then part of) on the border with Suwalki Lomza, where there was a whole industry in getting people across the border, sometimes involving false passports if the immigrant did not come from Suwalki Lomza gubernias but from further afield. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK 


Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

judygolan@...
 

I would be very surprised if this was actually a "given" name. Endlings with "owna" typically mean "daughter of" so one would assume that this woman/girl was the daughter of someone named Icek.

Judy Golan
JRI-Poland Kielce Area Coordinator
JRI-Poland Sandomierz Area Coordinator


Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Dr.Josef ASH
 

In Russian this means that she is a daughter of Icko.
Her brother was Ickovich
the father, naturally, Icko Itsko, Itshak and any other spelling of this name of one of Our Fathers


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Why not?  my dad’s family were Levites and the surname was Stern.  My husband was also a Levite and the last name is Mannlein,

Also, people changed their names when they moved to new areas, or for social or business reasons.  Some men married into Levite families when did not have male children and assumed the family name to continue the lime, but since Levitical status is conferred thru the male line, they are not Levites.  

Not all men bearing the surnames Kohen.Kagan,Cohen,Kahn, Kahana, Kaplan,Rapaport,Katz are Cohens…..  

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, Arizona

On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:39 PM, kastamp via groups.jewishgen.org <kastamp=yahoo.com@...> wrote:

I have another doubt. My surname is Levites and we were told that we were Israel. How come? Who decides? This doesn't make sense to me.
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