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Re: ROBERG family from Berlichingen, Germany #germany

Roger Lustig
 

http://www.alemannia-judaica.de/berlichingen_synagoge.htm

It's in German, but the _Encyclopedia of Jewish Life_ entry is given in English at the bottom.

Roger Lustig, Princeton, NJ  research coordinator, GerSIG    <GerSIG.Research@...>


Re: ROBERG family from Berlichingen, Germany #germany

Roger Lustig
 


Re: Litvak descendents- let's share information #lithuania

Devorah Eisenbach
 

bs'd 
We're 75% Litvak ...Shulgasser, Liubawitz, Micheles and Levitt. All got to Boston between 1883 - 1908.  If anyone has any info about any of those families, I would really like tobe in touch and see if somehow we are related.  Thanks os much.
Devorah Eisenbach
Boston, Jerusalem


Re: Litvak descendents- let's share information #lithuania

Devorah Eisenbach
 

bs'd We definitely have people from Kalvarija -Shulgasser and Liubawitz.
I also have letters from my ggf from Kalvaria.  They may mention your family.  I want to get them translated.
Devorah Eisenbach 
Jerusalem 


Viewpoint Translation Request #translation #general

Shelley Mitchell
 

While it’s clearly the intent of posters to get a translation, there are secondary benefits. While I may not be able to translate, if I had any idea of a name or location, members might learn something if they recognized either.

Just a suggestion.        Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...


Rabbi Yisrael ROSENBAUM of Ostrov-19th cent. #russia

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

Looking for descendants of R' Yisrael ROSENBAUM of Ostrov, a follower
of R'Yehoshua Heschel of Apta. Yisrael came to Eretz Yisrael (then
Palestine) during the first half of the 19th cent. probably in the
1830s. His children stayed in Europe (Skalat and Staro-Konstantine).
The sons adopted the family name SCHECHTER according to their
professions.

Yacov Gedalia SCHECHTER, Yisrael's grandson (from his son David),
eventually also made aliya . His descendants are prominent Breslev
Chassidim.

Yoni Ben-Ari, (3xgreat grandson of R'Yisrael)
Jerusalem


Re: Litvak descendents- let's share information #lithuania

jerome-yankowitz@...
 

Have Siegels in the USA who were Segals in Lithuania. While I always think Moletai, there seemed to be a record that for a bit lived in Salakas, Zarasai, Kaunas in earlier generations. Also the last ancestors of my branch in Lithuania were likely Leybe Segal married to Dvora Leya Fein. Marriage certificates in USA say the mom was Lena Fine but that couple was only I could find and names make sense based on headstones in US and who every one was "bar" and "bat". Leyba's father was Schmuel Segal. Love to know his wife name. Somewhere in there all hook to a "winer" family or "fanger" family but can't find connection.

Thanks!


Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

Lee Jaffe
 

I want to add one perspective that I didn't see elsewhere: that genealogy is a moving target, that any tree may be just the latest draft. I may add a questionable record to see where it leads and remove it later when it doesn't pan out.  Someone linking to my tree in the interim might naively accept my information as vetted and add it to their tree unexamined.  Or conclude I'm an idiot who knows nothing.  

My uncle keeps telling me about city directory records showing my grandparents in Birmingham, a place they never lived as far as anyone could remember.  But I added the record to my tree, as a placeholder.  Eventually I discovered other records for the couple with the same name living in Birmingham who weren't my grandparents and I removed the entry from my tree. Someone looking at my tree in the interim might draw the wrong conclusions.

I learned this lesson after corresponding with a professional genealogist who'd created a tree for a client linking to some of my data. But she had added a couple of earlier generations I hadn't discovered and I wanted to learn what evidence she'd used to support those additions.  She explained that the tree was just one of several scenarios she was trying out for her client, that she was in the process of gathering as many leads as possible before determining which was the best version and refining it.  

It's all like a jigsaw puzzle, except some pieces are missing and pieces from other puzzles are also in the box.  We start with the no-brainer pieces, the edges, then sort through the rest to see what fits.  We want as many pieces as possible and the extra ones -- what folks are calling "garbage" -- may be valuable to others.  And here the metaphor peters out.

But there  is a lot of trial-and-error to this endeavor and most trees will have a few mistakes in them, at least for a little while.

Lee Jaffe
JAFFE, STEIN, SZTEJN, SZTEJNSAPIR 
JOROFF, SCHWARTZ, KOSHKIN


Re: synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates

Lee Jaffe
 

I was the privacy officer at my university library and I can tell you that, in legal terms, privacy protection applies to only specific pieces of personal identity information in combination.  I doubt memorial boards include social security numbers, street address or anything else that might be protected.  That synagogue administrations might be uncomfortable with info being collected and you may be limited by their refusal, it should be clear that there is no legal privacy requirement.

Lee Jaffe


Maiden name of Gittle ABRAMOWITZ-Novarodok-New Haven, Ct. USA #usa

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I am trying to confirm my maternal great great grandmother's maiden
name. She left Novarodok (Europe) during the second half of the 19th
cent. as a widow from Yitzchak ABRAMOWITZ, with 4 orphans and
eventually landed in New Haven, Ct. She supposedly married at least
once more (LAZAROFF of London).

Her maiden name may have been HOROWITZ as there is a strong assumption
of family connections to HOROWITZs of Novarodok (or Minsk) but I have
not been able to confirm this.

Would appreciate those involved in HOROWITZ family tree if they can
look into the above. Its been suggested I do a DNA test but in Israel
it's problematic for halachic issues.

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari,
Jerusalem


Re: Litvak descendents- let's share information #lithuania

Angie Elfassi
 

Here are my Lithuanian ancestors and their towns of origin:
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds

RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds

ITMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/USA
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
KANTOR, Sakiai, Lithuania

GOLDBERG, Sakiai, Lithuania

Regards
Angie Elfassi

Israel


KATZOFF not Cohanim #names

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

Many years ago I visited a Jewish heritage museum (name of which I
will leave out) in which the computer for name origins described
KATZOFF as a variant of KATZ which usually stands for KOHEN-TZEDEK .
The printout mentioned my brother's name as one of th "prominent
KATZOFFs in Israel.

The next time I visited my above mentioned brother, I mentioned to him
that I did not know we were Cohanim. As an orthodox Rabbi who was
concerned regarding "yichus" he contacted the museum to correct the
misleading data.

BTW, we spell our hebrew name with a "Kuf" and not a "kaf" (as in
Cohen) which should have tipped off the museum's name dept. But in
the english spelling it could be confusing.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Re: Iasi , Romania research #romania

Carl Erkenbrecher
 

Hi Theodora,

I'm not sure if you can help or not but I am looking for information (birth certificate, etc) about my wife's grandfather, Harry Brownstein. It says on his Naturalization Records the he was born 15 May 1889 in Securon, Rumania. He emigrated from Glasgow, Scotland to the USA (New York) in February, 1906. I think his parents may be Joe (Joseph?) Brownstein and Fanny Shebsevich but I have no other information on them. Is this something you could research while you are at the archives in Bacau, Piatra Neamt or would there be a better place to research the records for him? Thanks for any help you can provide. Take care.


Help needed headstone translation - Hebrew #translation

s & t steinberg
 

Hi!  I was fortunate to have a volunteer (from Find a Grave) send me a photo of my great-grandparents' headstone in NJ.  I am hoping that someone can translate the Hebrew on both sides of the headstone. I am hoping that they might list the names of Abraham and Sarah's parents.  Thanks in advance for the help!

Best,
Terry Steinberg

Researching:
SCHNEIDERMAN, PERLSWEIG, KATCHER, WEISS, HAMER/AMER, LOEWENGRUB, 
KAFTAN, WEINTRAUB, 


Help needed headstone translation, Hebrew #translation

s & t steinberg
 

Hi!  I was fortunate to have a volunteer (from Find a Grave) send me a photo of my great-grandparents' headstone in NJ.  I am hoping that someone can translate the Hebrew on both sides of the headstone. I am hoping that they might list the names of Abraham and Sarah's parents.  Thanks in advance for the help!

Best,
Terry Steinberg

Researching:
SCHNEIDERMAN, PERLSWEIG, KATCHER, WEISS, HAMER/AMER, LOEWENGRUB, 
KAFTAN, WEINTRAUB, 


Re: Translation needed from Hebrew #translation

fredelfruhman
 

Here lies

A dear woman and mother

BREINAH, daughter of Dov Ber

Levinson

died the 28th of Kislev 5706

May her soul be bound up in the bond of life.
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The 28th of Kislev, 5706, began at sunset on December 2nd, 1945, and ended at sunset on December 3rd.

The following might be helpful if you are trying to find her father.  The name Dov Ber are the Hebrew and Yiddish names, respectively, that mean "bear".  A common Yiddish nickname could be Berel.  A corresponding secular name could be something like Bernard.  Of course, this is not necessarily so, as there are no "rules" for choosing secular names.


--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Re: Translation needed from Hebrew for matzevah. #translation

fredelfruhman
 

As the ViewMate posting is now 'closed', I cannot respond there, as I would have wished to.

I am the helper who pointed out that -- based on the Hebrew date -- the secular date might have been the 5th, rather than the 6th, if he had died after sunset.  (I see that there are official records giving the date as the 6th, so that is obviously the correct date.)

The reason for my comment here is because of the additional reply posted on ViewMate, that if he had died after sunset, the secular date would have been the 7th, so I would like to clarify what I wrote.

Hebrew dates go from sunset to sunset.  The Hebrew date of 30 Tishrei, 5679, began at sunset on October 5th, 1918, and ended at sunset on October 6th.  The original helper, in his or her remarks, had written:  "30 Tishrei, 5679 (Sun, 6 October 1918)".  The date of the 6th may have been obtained from a calendar-conversion program, which normally gives the secular date that is statistically the most likely "match" for the Hebrew date.  Such "matches" are usually correct, given that these two dates will indeed match for approximately 18 hours out of 24 (this is an average; depending upon the time of year and how late in the day the sun sets, the number of hours can differ quite a bit).  Calendar-conversion programs often ignore the fact that if the person had died after sunset on the PRIOR secular date, this would also be a match for the Hebrew date). 

I originally wrote:  "The date of death might also have been October 5th (if he died after sunset)."  It might have been clearer had I written, "In addition to the secular date of October 6th, it is possible that the date of death might have been October 5th (if he died after sunset on the 5th.  This is when the 30th of Tishri actually began, as Hebrew dates begin at sunset of the previous day.  For example, the Sabbath actually begins at sunset on Friday).

--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia #general

Mary Ellen
 

How do I research  an ancestor from Tibilisi Georgia? There is no heading under the data bases for this.
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 Thank you.
Mary Ellen
#222350


Hit a brick wall with Botnick and Mindranski #lithuania

emory.braswell@...
 

I have hit a brick wall and need info on the Botnicks who were in both Vilnius and Moldau. While  Mindranski was mostly in Moldau.


Re: Litvak descendents- let's share information #lithuania

Nadene Goldfoot
 

My bubbie, Zlata Jermulowski/e was from Lozdzieje which was taken over by Poland as it was on the border between Lithuania and Poland, was born in 1884.  Her mtDNA haplogroup is W1h.  She met out Zayda, Nathan Abraham Goldfoot (had been Goldfus in Lithuania)  in Idaho in the mountains of Council and they married in Boise and stayed in Council until after their first son was born who was my uncle.  I have found a long line of Goldfus in Telsiai (Telz) but can't find Jermulowski/e  at all.  Her father was Joshua Charles "Hatzkel" Isaiahel Jermulowskie.  Answering b_nye008@....  
 
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