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Seek history of "ATYI" or ATWI from Zaragosa Spain #sephardic

Dodi
 

Looking for information about a specific family "Atyi" or Atwi from Zaragosa Spain that is now in northern Israel, Nazareth and Haifa

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Re: Ship Manifest codes #usa

Susan&David
 

These numbers in the last column are a count of the males - females on the passenger list. It is easily confirmed by looking at the column with the heading "Sex" and adding up the males and the females.  At the bottom of the last column there should be a total, e.g.,  16 -11- 27.   It was common to see this on passenger lists of this period.  There must have been a reason for doing this, but I have not seen it explained.

David Rosen, Boston, MA


On 5/27/2020 10:18 AM, plutsk@... wrote:
 
You don't say above what information those numbers are coding, though presumably not for the cause and date of a death.  Is there a guide to what those codes mean, and might they be of any genealogical interest?  Thank you.
Steve Gold

"Those numbers in the Cause of Death column on Customs Lists have long been a source of confusion.  They are annotations made later by gov't statistical clerks when "coding" the documents for official US immigration statistics.  Clerks used that column for this data because it was usually the largest block of available empty space on the page.

Occasionally the column was used during the voyage to record a death, and those notations will typically contain an obvious date and sometimes a cause of death, or even "buried at sea.""

Marian Smith


Looking for descendants of Leibl GOLDBERG (originally from Falticeni) #romania #unitedkingdom

Dexter Moseley
 

Looking for descendants of Leibl/Leibel Goldberg (d.o.b 15 Dec 1890 in Falticeni), son of Moshe ben Avram/Morris Goldberg (killed by a mob outside a synagogue in Falticeni) and Rosa (nee Itic/Itzic/Swarz) who later emigrated with family to the UK, along with brothers Marcu/Marcus/Max d.o.b 25 May 1895 and Mendel d.o.b 02 Sept 1889. Leibl/Leibel Goldberg is believed to have left the UK in 1915 (possibly to the US) under the name Louis Goldberg

The descendants of Max Goldberg who still live in the UK appreciate any contact concerning Leibl/Leibel/Louis' descendants.

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Dov Cohen's list if Izmir brides and grooms #sephardic

Jeff at SG
 

In Paris, at the 1997 Annual Meeting of the International Jewish Genealogy Conference Professor Dov Cohen presented  a list of names of 7,300 Brides and Grooms from the Jewish community of Izmir. That list of names was never published and remained difficult to find.

Good news: Prof. Cohen has just made available an expanded version of this list, containing 11,280 names. 

This new searchable database is available at
https://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/IzmirMarriagesSrchFrm.html

and provides the following data elements:
Surname, and alternatives, Given Names and Aliases, Year of the marriage, and Sex of the individual. The marriages took place between 1820 and 1933 in Izmir.

For those researching ancestry in Turkey, Prof. Dov Cohen has also made available another list, this time of burials at the Gürçesme Izmir Cemetery. This covers burials during 1927 and 1928. It can be searched at:

https://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/IzmirCemeterySrchFrm.html

Thank you Dov Cohen

Jeff Malka   <jeffmalka@...>

 


2 Questions about my great aunt's entry on a passenger manifest #general

Ryan Cramer
 


I have 2 questions about Sima Silberstein (my great aunt)'s designation on the passenger manifest that I was hoping someone could shed some light on.  I've outlined both in red.  
  1. The first question is the "sis" designation next to her name.  Am I to believe that she is Chane Gelfand's sister?  I haven't yet found any other records tying the two of them together, even when they are in the states (i.e., none of the Gelfands are mentioned in any sibling or parent obituaries, etc).
  2. In the column which designates who they are going to join (i.e., relative, friend), Chane indicates she's joining her husband "S. Gelfand", but I'm unable to decipher what was written for Sima in that column.  It looks like a "6" or a "b", followed by an "r" or an "n", an "i", and an "l" or an "e".  Any ideas?   Thx in advance!
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Request translation of Hebrew on ZWEIGMAN gravestone #translation

erikagottfried53@...
 

I would appreciate a translation of the Hebrew writing on this gravestone.  Thank you so much in advance.
 
Erika Gottfried, Teaneck, New Jersey   Reply o n l y  to   <erikagottfried53@...>


Ellis Island deportation hearings, BOROFSKY #usa #russia

alwitz@...
 

A Detroit free press article in July 1913 describes a family of a wife and three children being held at Elis Island for potential deportation back to Russia having been described as potentially indigent by their husband/Father. The family name is Borofsky. Does anyone know if there are records of such events/hearings and if so where?

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Re: Discussion Group - Tips About Hashtags #guidelines

Sarah L Meyer
 

What happens when there are two hashtags – one of which you have muted and the other one was not muted?  Also if you did not mute a hashtag does that mean that you are following it?

Sarah  Lee Meyer Christiansen

Georgetown Texas

 

 





 








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Re: Ship Manifest codes #usa

plutsk@...
 

 
You don't say above what information those numbers are coding, though presumably not for the cause and date of a death.  Is there a guide to what those codes mean, and might they be of any genealogical interest?  Thank you.
Steve Gold

"Those numbers in the Cause of Death column on Customs Lists have long been a source of confusion.  They are annotations made later by gov't statistical clerks when "coding" the documents for official US immigration statistics.  Clerks used that column for this data because it was usually the largest block of available empty space on the page.

Occasionally the column was used during the voyage to record a death, and those notations will typically contain an obvious date and sometimes a cause of death, or even "buried at sea.""

Marian Smith


Death Records - France #france

Rick Zeckel
 

My mother and members of her family fled Antwerp in May 1940 and ended up in Bousquet d'Orb. Among that group was my great-grandmother Zizel Balsom and she was the only one of that group who was NOT sent to Camp d'Agde in August 1942 and from there to Rivesaltes. The three women in the camp were sent back to Bousquet d'Orb in September of that year, the two men sent to Auschwitz where it is presumed they died. I know that the next spring my mother and grandmother obtained fake papers and made their way to Grenoble where the spent the rest of the war. The two returned to Antwerp in May 1945 and the remaining surviving women returned two months later. My great-grandmother did not return and the documents I've found indicated she was dead by then. I'm trying to find where and how she died. Any suggestions on how I might access records of deaths in those areas during that time would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Rick Zeckel
Carmel, Indiana  USA
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looking for cousins HARFENES HARFENS in Israel, Romania and Brazil #israel #romania

Jake Jacobs
 

looking for cousins HARFENS also known as HARFENES. They came from the Arad area of Romania. My cousin, Magdalena HOCHWALD, married David HARFENES (later known as HARFENS). They had 2 daughters that I know of, Miriam and Shifra.  Miriam moved to Brazil after the war.  David, Magdalena and Shifra appear to have lived in Tel Aviv for a time. Magdalena was known there as Malka. They moved to Brazil in 1962.  It appears they moved back to Israel, for Magdalena and David are buried there.  If you know anything about this family, please contact me offline!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas


Anglicised surname #ukraine #unitedkingdom #names

rieverjohn@...
 

Hello,I am not Jewish but my father in law Abraham was. He was born in Bratslav in Ukraine in 1896, his father
was David and hi mother Frima, my wifes name. Father David was apparently a bandsman in the Russian army.
Abie with his mother and at least one more sibling came to England in 1900, David managed get out of Ukraine and followed in 1901. The family setled in Newcastle upon Tyne and assumed the surname WELSH. Is there a likely previous surname they may have simply slightly altered. The name Velsher has been suggested (which apparently means "stranger").
I have yet to see any mention of Bratslav in your group.
 
John Robson


Seek Ziva SHAPIRIENE or SHAPIRA of family TATARSKI and GADIA #canada #lithuania

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear JewishGen,
I am seeking Ziva SHAPIRIENE, probably from Lithuania who lived in Toronto in 2002.  She filed a Yad Vashem Page of Testimony re TATARSKI and GADIA and I am trying to reach her.  She may use a different form of her last name; she may be elsewhere than in Canada.

If you know her, please feel free to give her my email.
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
SF Bay Area, CA, USA
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Seeking help regarding Familianten book from Trest, Moravia #austria-czech

Moses Jefferson
 

Hello fellow researchers,

I recently learned of a genealogical gem available for research in the Bohemia and Moravia regions (I apologise if this is old news to you!). These are “Family Books” which recorded all families living in those lands starting in the 18th century, implemented to restrict the growth of the Jewish population. (Read this article for a brief history).

 

Currently I’m researching my family roots from Trest, and seem to have found such a similar book. It can be viewed here: http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/2098/zaznam/401749.

 

However, I cannot make sense of the columns and what they stand for, could anyone familiar with these books please let me know what is recorded in each cell, since I cannot seem to find a clear guide for this book.

 

To be more specific, I believe I found my ancestors name in PAGE 10 ”Morris Sinney” (number 86). I would be grateful to receive more specific information regarding my ancestor.

Best, Moses Jefferson
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Looking for the dessendants of Alex ROGATSKY from NYC (and of his son Albert ROGART) #russia #usa

Michael Moz
 

Dear Genners,
I'm looking for the contact information (phone number or E-mail) of the descendants of Alex (Zalman) ROGATSKY (1891-1956, born in Viazma, Russia).
(Alex was my wife's great-uncle.)

He came to the US in 1913, married Mildred Rabinovich circa 1920 and they had three children:
1. Albert (Abram, 1922-1997), he changed his family name to ROGART.
2. Ruth (b. 1924, married name: ROSENFELD).
   Daughters: Rhonda (married name: SOTO)
   April (married name: Thomas TISCIA)

3. Doris (b. 1930, married name COHEN).
   Daughter: Helene (married Allan WALVICK). They had two children: a son Ronn and a daughter Marissa (married Steven COFSKY).

Some of these people have a Facebook account but they visit Facebook on very rare occasions so I could not contact them.

If you can find some open information about these persons' contacts I would greatly appreciate if you can share it with me.

If you are acquainted with any of them (very small chance but not zero...) then maybe you can ask their permission to give me their contact information,

(I have a lot information about Alex's family in Russia and I'll be happy to share it with the American branch.)

Sorry for possible mistakes in me English.

With great respect,
Michael Moz,
Maale-Adumim, Israel.
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Re: Searching for Yacoby-Jacoby-Jacobi from Grodno, Grodno, Belarus 1800-1900 #belarus

sharon yampell
 

Try looking up variations of jacobowiec

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ USA

 

 


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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Searching for Yacoby-Jacoby-Jacobi from Grodno, Grodno, Belarus 1800-1900 #belarus
 
I am searching for my grandmother, greatgrandmother, and greatgrandfather. Fannie, Ida, and Abram. Fannie and Ida immigrated to USA around 1900. I have not been able to find their ship manifest or 1900, 1910 census information, via Ancestry. Any information would be extremely helpful.
Thank you.
JL


Searching: Harry Berens #unitedkingdom

valfeatherstone53@...
 

I am searching for a Harry Berens. His address was given as, 39 Northern Grove, West Didsbury, Manchester in 1925/6.
Many thanks.
Valerie Featherstone

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Re: Ship Manifest codes #usa

Marian
 

Hello Judith,

Those numbers in the Cause of Death column on Customs Lists have long been a source of confusion.  They are annotations made later by gov't statistical clerks when "coding" the documents for official US immigration statistics.  Clerks used that column for this data because it was usually the largest block of available empty space on the page.

Occasionally the column was used during the voyage to record a death, and those notations will typically contain an obvious date and sometimes a cause of death, or even "buried at sea."

Marian Smith


Re: help with Romanian nicknames #names #romania

luc.radu@...
 

Likely there are multiple choices. For Dutu (sounds like Dutzu) one could be SANDU which is also a nickname from Alexandru. Fanciu -- never heard of but could be from STEFAN.FANE/FANCIU.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Re: What Do You Pay a Translator for a 50 Page Document in Pollsh #translation

Theo Rafael
 

The site I actually had in mind where you can ask for price quotes is this: https://www.fiverr.com/categories/writing-translation/quality-translation-services?ref=languages_pair%3Apolish-english 
As a bonus, the site is an Israeli start-up :)

Theo