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searching for Brill and Zeid family from Ukraine #ukraine

Brill, J W.
 

I’m searching for information about Isaac Brill,from Bar, Ukraine, whose son Abram immigrated to USA in 1909.  Isaac’s wife was Fannie Dentmgmanz (sp)?

Also about Solomn Zeid, from Brailiv, Ukraine, whose wife was Belle Nerdoff and whose daughter, Sophie, immigrated to USA in 1909-1911.


Reb Aryah Lev Buchman & wife Sora Buchman of Starokonstantyn. #latinamerica #names #ukraine

@Pixitidbit
 

Searching for any mention of my G Grandparents who might have lived in Kuzmyn, in 1800's. Aryeh (Louis) was a rabbi. Daughter was Bess (or Rebecca) who married Sam (Schlomo?) Shectman. 


Re: Did my husband's family from Galicia have Sephardic roots? #sephardic #galicia

David
 

I had a quick look through a DYM family on Geni and noticed that one of these is married to a member of the TOLEDANO family - a well known Moroccan Rabbinic family. So maybe your husband has also this family in his blood.
These are probably living people so the profiles are kept private there, but try and contact the profile mangers on the following profile:-
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000114415604821
Also, I found the kohanic family on Geni, so you might want to ask if the profile manager on the above link knows if/how his family is connected to the big family.

I also found the following:-
https://www.health.gov.il/Subjects/Genetics/Documents/book_jews.pdf
Look at page 67:-
<<<Molecular genetics and epidemiology: DYM gene (chromosomal locus 18q12-q21.1) In a Moroccan Jewish family six out of 10 sibling were affected. No molecular studies have been reported.>>>
The name of the gene might be that because it was discovered by O. Dym - see page 82, thus no relevance to the family, but the people who asked your husband might have had this information and wanted to find out whether there was a connection.

David Ziants
Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel
Researching: ZIANTS, ZENETSKY (SCHLOSBERG), ZIANTSCHIK, FRIEDMAN,  ISMACH (DAVIDSON, OSMAN) from Narewka, Bialystok, Lomza, Lodz, Bielsk, Warsaw; GEWELBA (GABLE,RAVELLE,GALE), SINGER from Warsaw; REINA from Netherlands; MICHAELS from UK & Western Europe; VIEYRA, JUDA-RODRIGUEZ from UK, Netherlands (as well as all other Dutch Sephardi families).

 


Re: ID card microfilms reels for Lodz ghetto workers: searching link in Polish State Archives web site #lodz #holocaust

Howard Fink
 

Last year JRI-Poland made available a complete extraction of more than 262,000 registration cards from Łodz, circa 1916-1921. You can read details about this enormous project here:
https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

Search for names:
https://jri-poland.org/jriplweb.htm
[hint: specify the Geographical Region as 'Piotrków Gubernia' and the Record Type as 'Census / Books of Residents']

Your results will include a link to click which will take you directly to the high resolution (downloadable) scan of the original card at the Polish State Archives.


Re: : HIAS & Ethnic Bank records in Philadelphia, PA #belarus

benagen@...
 

I will be happy to pay a fee for a search for Auerbach records. My great-uncle Abraham Auerbach arrived in Philadelphia from Belaya Tserkov, then-Russia now-Ukraine, in 1906. Sam Auerbach, a relative of whom I know nothing, had probably lived in Philadelphia prior to 1906, he signed from Abraham on his citizenship application. Abraham lived in Philadelphia all his life, his son Solomon was a pharmacist.  


Re: Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #translation #russia #poland

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

231

Состоялось в городе Пжетборц двадцать первого декабря/второго января, тысяча восемьсот девяносто восьмого года, в три часа по полудни, явился еврей Мендель Розенфарб, торговец, тридцати двух лет от роду и в Пжетборце живущий, в присутсвии свидетелей евреев Абрама Зильберштейна, шестидесяти трех лет и Мендла Розенблата, пятидесяти шести лет от роду, торговцев и живущих в городе Пжетборц, предъявили нам мальчика и объявляя, что он родился четырнадцатого/двадцать шестого декабря, текущего года, в пять часов утра, от законной жены Эстер, урожденной Гутерман, тридцати двух лет от роду, и младенцу этому при обрезании совершенному сего дня, дано имя Фишель.  Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и затем нами и свидетелями подписан:   Являющимся безграмотным, Абрам Зильберштейн, Мендл Росенблат.

Бургомистр совершаущий акты гражданского состояния:   Подпись

 

In English:

231

Held in the city of Pzheborts on December 21 / January 2, one thousand eight hundred and ninety-eight, at three in the afternoon, a Jew, Mendel Rosenfarb, a merchant, thirty-two years old and living in Pzhetborets, was present, in the presence of Jewish witnesses Abram Zilberstein, sixty-three years old and Mendl Rosenblatt, fifty-six years old, merchants and living in the city of Pzheborts, presented us with a boy and announcing that he was born on the fourteenth / twenty-sixth of December of the current year, at five in the morning, from the lawful wife of Esther, nee Guterman, thirty-two years old, and this infant, when circumcised this day, is given the name Fishel. This act was read by those present and then signed by us and witnesses: Being illiterate, Abram Silberstein, Mendl Rosenblatt.

Civil Mayor: Signature

 


Entry permit/visa to Germany, period 1928-31 #germany #scandinavia

seth@...
 

Can anyone inform me where to find archival material for entry permits and/or visa to Germany during the period 1928-31? The person in question was a Swedish citizen and resident of Norway.


Seth Jacobson


Researching Stalavichy. Molczadski, Mohl #belarus

isabelle@...
 

I am researching my grandfather’s town of origin which is now called Stalavichy.  I am unable to find much about the Jewish community there in the late 1800’s.  Any suggestions would be most welcome.  My grandfather and his brother were apparently somewhat educated before they arrived in the US.  Grandfather studied at Cooper Union and became a civil engineer.  Great uncle was a pharmacist.  Would like to know more about how Jewish boys would have been educated in Stalavichy in late 1800’s.

Isabelle Selikoff


Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,
My cousin, Fani Jurovits (born 1887), arrived in NY on the Bremen, 24 Sep 1913. Fani was my great-grandfather's baby sister. It was nice to see Fani's father as the last address in Europe. Moses Jurovics, her father, was my g-g-gf, and my namesake.

On the second page of the manifest (attached), Line 26 has Fani listed, together with her cousin, Berta Davidowitz, as going to some address that starts with 120, perhaps Nevins. I am trying to make out the name of her cousin that was her destination, as well as the address. The name is overwrittne. Can anyone read the destination?
The supposed cousin never showed up and Fani and Berta DAVIDOWITZ were released to the Clara de Hirsch Home (see the detained passenger list, attached).

I also checked the Bremen departure lists, but for 1913, they only seem to start in October, and there is a gap back to 1908.

I have found Fani's 1919 NY marriage to Jacob Zeisler, a widower. I would like to find out who this "destination" cousin was and, where was Fani between 1913 and 1919, and how were Fani and Berta related.

Thank you. Stay safe, stay healthy,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
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Re: Jewish Argentinians #latinamerica

mpipik
 

There were plenty of Jewish prostitutes all around.

Sholem Ashe's play "Got fun nekome" (The Gold of Vengeance) from 1906 is about a brothel in Poland.

New York City's Lower East Side was full of prostitutes.  In fact, my father told a the story of his first school day. Apparently his parents didn't have time to take him and had left him home so a neighbor volunteered to take him.  He much later found out that she was a prostitute.

A quick search or two on the Internet will provide plenty of information.

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Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Ruth
 

My mother was the fourth daughter born to my grandparents. She was born at the end of January in London, England, and the doctor told my grandmother not to bother too much about this child as she was sickly and not expected to live. My grandmother prevailed and my mother survived. Her birth was registered in April -- although the registration gave her actual birth date. So there's another reason for a delayed registration.
--
Ruth Chernia,  Toronto, Canada

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Re: Seeking Joseph Weisman, a member of Proskurover in NYC #ukraine

David Cherson
 

A few people out there might remember me when I was more active in all things Proskurov.  That was my mother's hometown and she and her family (miraculously) survived the 1919 pogrom.   I had always heard that there was a Proskurov shul in NYC but that it doesn't exist anymore.  And that it was established in the late 19th turn of the 20th century. Two of my mother's uncles managed to get out before WWI and that way they were able secure affidavits for the rest of the family in the 1920's.

In regards to the name of the town, I have always insisted that we only use Proskurov because as most people know renaming it Khelmnitzky was salt on the wound of the Jewish people.  Bogdan Khelmnitzky was one of history's most destructive anti-semites.  In fact within recent years the existing Jewish community has asked the town government to change the name back to Proskurov but they refused.

David Cherson <dcherson@...>


What happened to Charles Smolenski #unitedkingdom #usa #germany

Sue Coleman
 

My greatgrandmother Sheina/Szeyna/Jane/Jenny Cohen nee Smolenski appears on the 1901 census with her two sisters Chayka/Annie Kalinsky nee Smolenski and Tilly/Matilda/Toby (Taube?) Bernstein nee Smolenski. I would dearly love to know where they came from. They lived in Liverpool and Manchester, England. It is believed they had brothers. The census states Sheina was 17 but her youngest daughter thought she was nearer to 14. On the 1901 census the three sisters state they came from Russia but Chayka's grandson told me it could be Memel which, at the time was East Prussia

Family lore tells of a brother "Charlie" who visited them from USA before WW1. On Ancestry, I found a Charles Smolenski who travelled from New York to Liverpool in 1912 aged 22 and originally from Germany which could seem to fit. However, I can't find his original arrival in USA nor his return after his visit

So what happened to him and where did he come from?
Any suggestions welcome. I have searched and searched for their place of birth but with no joy, hence trying a different angle and looking for "Charlie"

Many thanks in advance

Sue Coleman    <colemanfamilytree@...>

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Woman adopted in northern Michigan seeking Hungarian-Italian father's family #usa #dna

michelle.cosier@...
 

Dear all,

Maybe someone in the Toledo area can help me or other relatives...

I’m doing some family history research for my mom. I read a really nice article on the toledoattic.org website about the Birmingham neighbourhood and it's Hungarian heritage.

My mom was adopted in 1965 in Northern Michigan. She had however a Hungarian-Italian father (we think from Toledo). In 1965 he was 34.  His dad was Italian and his mom Hungarian.  From the paperwork back in 1965 it says he was a college graduate, a successful business man, had remodelled homes and sold them. He had very dark brown curly hair, dark brown eyes and a dark olive complexion.  He was a good swimmer, diver, generally liked sports and he was a good singer.  He had excellent health, worked hard and was enthusiastic. 
 
He would probably be 89 now. 
 
It’s a really interesting story about my mothers search for her father.  She started off looking for him after she found her biological mother (named Grace Schutte, pronounced shoot) about 20 years ago.  Her biological mother was 22 in 1965 when my mother was born and her father and her must have met 1964 prior and we think in Toledo, possibly at a bar.  They both liked to sing and Grace was an entertainer and possibly also a sales clerk.  Grace hasn’t told us much.  It says in the adoption paperwork that they were expected to be married and then he didn’t accept his domestic responsibilities to want to raise their child.  She showed up at her sister's house back in Michigan pregnant and then my mom was adopted. It was a closed adoption.
 
Since she’s started looking she’s done a few DNA tests.  50% came back Jewish heritage… probably from the father’s mother's side but a few generations back because on the adoption paperwork it says her father was Protestant.  I'm assuming they must have converted during or after one of the wars. Anyways my mom's DNA is on my heritage, ancestry and 23andme, if you want to look her up and compare feel free or I have GEDmatch and can use kitnumbers.  Ruth Skop is my mom's name.
 
Maybe you could help me out with some clues…probably a long shot but doesn’t hurt to try.          Looking forward to hearing from anyone!

Sincerely,   Michelle    <michelle.cosier@...>


Re: ID card microfilms reels for Lodz ghetto workers: searching link in Polish State Archives web site #lodz #holocaust

Lewis, Megan
 

The Lodz ghetto workers cards are indexed on Ancestry via the World Memory Project; access is free.  If you find a match there are instructions on how to order a copy from USHMM.  
 
 
 
--
Megan Lewis  Reference Librarian  
NOTE: I am teleworking until further notice
National Institute for Holocaust Documentation
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
www.ushmm.org


Did my husband's family from Galicia have Sephardic roots? #sephardic #galicia

fayhen@...
 

The story in my husband's family is that, although his grandfather emigrated to the US from Galicia, the family ended up there, circuitously and many generations earlier, as a result of the expulsion from Spain in late 15th century.  On a recent trip to Morocco, he was stopped a number of times and asked (through our guide) if he was a "Fezi;" we understand that meant that he resembled members of the Jewish community in Fez who had fled Spain hundreds of years earlier.  This all sounds somewhat unlikely to me, and my attempts to research his ancestry in Spain have turned up not a hint of confirmation.  But that could be because I don't know how and where to look.  His family name is DYM; they are kohens, and apparently included generations of rabbis (a family characteristic that ended on making landfall in NYC).  He was told, by his father, that the name itself is an ancient acronym of Hebrew letters...dalet-yud-mem...standing for "judge and defender."   Any ideas on how to proceed, for an enthusiastic but compared to you all, fairly incompetent genealogist?

Thanks, Fran   fayhen@...

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Searching for Shymek PLOCKI in Germany born 1920s. How to get started?. #germany

Todd Cohn
 

I am searching for a long lost relative who was last known to be living in Germany.
 
His name is Shymek Plocki.  Any suggestions or directions on how to get started on this search would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,  Todd Cohn <toddcohn@...>
 


Looking for relatives of Applebaum Genedel Arrived Ellis Island Aug., 1901 #russia #usa #poland

JOSEPH GODELNIK
 

 
According to Ellis Islands repository, August 27, 1901, Appelbaum Genendel arrived in the United States with Russian nationality and place of residence - Semiaticy (the exact name of the place is (Seimitycze Poland). I have a very high likelihood that she is the sister/cousin of my grandmother Sheine Sara Godlenik (Appelbaum from home). I would like to thank you for more information about the family of Genendel family.
The name is listed as Ganendel, 14 years old single, arrived in August 1901, Passenger ID 604755060089. Also in September 1898, apparently her sister (although the surname is registered as Appelbin), Esther married, 24 years old, Passenger ID 602940090036 Born in Seimyticze Poland

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Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Frank Schulaner
 

One assumes the civil authorities had their reasons/excuses for the seemingly erratic laws on Jewish marriages that we've been reading about this weekend. I suspect, though, the basic not-always-subconscious rationale was "Just to show you Jews who's boss."

But I wonder about the eldest-son-only rule you mention: Whether the law's intent was practical, to increase the number of the "illegitimate" children of the other sons, children unable legally to inherit their father's property. Giving the government a chance to grab "intestate" property.


Re: Jewish Argentinians #latinamerica

Shelley Mitchell
 

This appeared in a recent posting:
 
"Shelley Mitchell has posted a surprising statement (transcribed below) with which I strongly disagree.
 
There are many studies both academic and non academic which can illustrate readers on the (small) magnitude of Jewish prostitution in 1930's Argentina in relation to the (huge) magnitude of Jewish migration into Argentina. 
 
But generalizing dates as she does (1870 to WWII) and places of origin (see quote) and minimizing the enormous number of Jews who made a new decent life in this country is an oversimplification.
 
She ignores the important books and papers on the subject by saying "it must be studied and understood".
 
If Ms. Mitchell can provide bibliography to prove her points I'd be more than willing to read them.
 
I do feel sorry for the women engaged in prostitution in the 1930's by Jewish pimps and the profusely studied Zvi Migdal delictive ring, but her post is doing a disservice by a crude generalization.
 
Hope this helps to clarify the matter.
 
"One point in history not frequently discussed was the enslavement of Jewish immigrants from 1870 to WWII. They were forced into prostitution, mostly in Argentina. And many of their “owners” were Jewish. It is for that reason alone, many of these unwilling women will be lost to researchers. It’s doubtful that they were buried where their names would be known. Plus many arrived alone from Germany, Austria, and Western Europe. It’s an embarrassing aspect of our history but it must be studied and understood" 
 
 
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
 
Mr. Chester, and fellow readers.  I am sorry if I've hurt your national pride but facts are facts.  I in no way condemned the entire Jewish population of Argentina during that period.  Large or small, it is still a fact.
There is much literature on the subject.  For example, 
and
https://books.google.com/books?id=tlEKs-FdyOcC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=Argentina+prostitution+jewish+women+from+Germany,+Austria&source=bl&ots=Qq1GkPHv5S&sig=ACfU3U1cpgLg-xR1BxpNLZqaLvx2ozWjxA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi946XP_83pAhW1lHIEHemWC2w4ChDoATACegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=Argentina%20prostitution%20jewish%20women%20from%20Germany%2C%20Austria&f=false
and
 
It means that for some, no matter how much we look, there are lives that have been wiped out.  Cemeteries destroyed, names lost in mass graves, names lost to history.  That was the purpose of my comment.  We should understand that as much work as we do on our ancestry, there will always be spaces that cannot be filled.  
 
I'm sorry that this upset you and maybe others.  But unless you can show me these are false stories, I continue to say that we must recognize things that were done in our culture that weren't always perfect.  Despite our flaws, we still stand proudly and in unity with our people.  
 
 
 

 

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Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.