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Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Sam G.
 

שנה טובה

May we be pandemic-free in 5781!
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-Amnon Gronner, USA
Researching GRONNER SANDLER


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Teewinot
 

To all the amazing people who work so hard to make JewishGen the
incredible resource that it is and to everyone else here, I wish you all
the same! Nothing but sweetness.

Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida


On 9/17/2020 5:47 PM, Avraham Groll wrote:
Wishing you all a Shana Tova, and a year filled with health, happiness,
and only good things!
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Re: Hungarian Diary Translation Needed #general #hungary #translation

Peter Cherna
 

How much text is there? If it's a modest amount, then posting to ViewMate as Julia suggested can work. There are also Facebook forums where volunteers are doing an incredible service helping people understand Hungarian documents.

If there are lots of pages, it may be beyond what you can expect volunteers to respond to. If it's poetry, you may also want to capture some of the artistry, and not just the gist of the names and topics.

I have about 80 letters my grandmother wrote to my father, and I found a translator on www.fiverr.com that I paid for the work. I sent samples to a few of the people offering services, and picked the best result to send the rest of the letters to, and in my case I was super satisfied. I knew my grandmother when I was very little so I was able to "hear" her personality in the best of the translations. If you want the name and link of the specific translator on Fiverr that I ended up using, send me a private message.

Peter Cherna


Re: 50 State Survey Finds One Out of 10 Millennials and Generation Z Didi Not Recall Word 'Holocaust: or Basic Facts of the Genocide #announcements # holocaust #announcements #usa

Jessica Skippon
 

I first read this in The Guardian and our family emails did the expected outrage. Then my 25 year old grandson researched and brought up the survey responses themselves. I was shocked at how distorted the report was. For example:

"Sixty-three percent of those surveyed did not know that 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, and over half of those thought the death toll was fewer than 2 million."

9. Approximately how many Jews were killed during the Holocaust?  Please select from the following list:

 

25,000              5%

100,000            6%

1 million            10%

2 million            15%

6 million            37%

20 million          10%

Not sure            17%

Personally, I would include all responses between 1 million and 20 million as knowing something about the scale of the Holocaust. But the writer chose only those who answered accurately.

I was a small child in Brooklyn when the Holocaust happened, and I found out about it in 1950 by reading Life Magazine. I don't remember ever being taught about it in high school, but self-taught myself by reading and then at 63 studying it at university. We are making assumptions that everyone knows the history of the 20th century, but I think we need to accept that we have a legacy to pass on. I don't mean just the Holocaust, but also a time when social justice was considered important.I could add many more values and qualities, but you know what I am talking about.

The full survey responses is in the link - http://www.claimscon.org/millennial-study/ but you need to go to almost the end, just before the list of States, and click on Millennial National Topline.

Jessica Skippon

Researching: SCHANZER, BORGER, BIRN, JACHZEL, Andrychau, Wadowice, Bielsko Biala



 


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

EdrieAnne Broughton
 

I'm one of your non-Jewish posters.  I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood in Los Angeles.  My friends were mostly Jewish.  My mother had studied anthropology in college and reading was our main 'sport'.  It hasn't changed even in my mid 70s.  I recently finished a Great Courses on Audible on the Ottoman Empire.  I really recommend this geographical history and cultural history to anyone who has roots in Southeastern Europe and Asia Minor.  This includes Christians, Jews and Sunni Muslims.  Many of you who know that Russia had control of parts of your ancestors' homelands completely miss the fact that the Ottomans had control of it for longer that Russia was even a factor.  The Ottomans had a much different management style than the Hapsburgs, Russians or Prussians.  
EdrieAnne Broughton
Vacaville, California   


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa
 

Alex Krakovsky does have posted an additional revision List for Volyn Province 1883 which has data from Ostrog on p. 69 and 145 archive ref 118-14-93 link (copy this into the browser dont click on it)
Additional auditory tales of the Volyn province. 1881–1883 // RAIN. F. 118. Op. 14. Ref. 93.

As Chuck says this has not been digitized or indexed.  while just before your date it may have information on the parents

Gary Pokrassa
gpokrassa@...
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division
JewishGen.org


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

rich.meyersburg@...
 

I received Ancestry's new estimates of ethnicity yesterday along with great fanfare and their airy comments of new definitions and greater accuracy.  Mine changed from 100% European Jewish to 100% European Jewish.  Nope not a typo. No further definitions.  My father's family came from Hanover and Hess in Germany, and Bydgoszcz in Poland (then Bromberg in Prussia), and the Grodno gubernia which was Russia and is now in Belarus, and my mother's from Hungary, and Transylvania (formerly Hungary, now Romania) - A good solid mix of European Jewish ancestry.  If one looks at the US Census records, he/she can see how the country of origin listings change for a person over the years according to who reigns over the territory, and as we have seen they are still changing. L'Shana Tovah.  Rich Meyersburg, Laurel, MD
 


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Chuck Weinstein
 

Unfortunately, there are no known birth or marriage records from Ostrog (modern Ostroh, Ukraine).  The Regional Museum in Ostroh possesses a portion of the 1886 Revision List (census). To our knowledge, it has not been digitized.or indexed.  Sorry we can't be of more help.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, JewishGen Ukraine Research Division
chuck1@... 


Re: Hungarian Diary Translation Needed #general #hungary #translation

JPmiaou@...
 

I suggest picking a page or two and posting on ViewMate. Poetry translation really depends on the specific poem, so while I'm willing to give it a try, I don't want to commit to the whole thing, and posting to VM would give others a chance to try, as well.

Julia Szent-Györgyi
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Yizkor book for Jaroslaw #galicia

Dan Rottenberg
 

This is a call to anyone with Jewish roots in Jaroslaw, Poland (formerly Galicia). A yizkor book for Jaroslaw—"Sefer Yaroslav: gal-'ed le-zekher 'irenu"— was published in 1978 in Tel Aviv. JewishGen has the original Hebrew version online. But it's never been translated into English, except for the table of contents. JewishGen tells me such a translation project would cost $9-$10,000 and would require a volunteer coordinator. I can't spare the time to coordinate this project but would be willing to put up one-third of the needed funds. If anyone else would like to step forward to coordinate and/or contribute to this project, please respond here or contact Lance Ackerfield at lackerfeld@....
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PAdan@...


Re: 50 State Survey Finds One Out of 10 Millennials and Generation Z Didi Not Recall Word 'Holocaust: or Basic Facts of the Genocide #announcements # holocaust #announcements #usa

Sarah L Meyer
 

Amazing.  I am so sad that so many states have so little awareness, and glad to see that my former home state Iowa is among the ones with a greater awareness.  When we lived there, there were a number of survivors, most of whom are no longer living.  
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Info and questions please #general #russia

Sarah L Meyer
 

Kherson is a guberniya in what is now the southern Ukraine.  It is not in Galicia.  You can find information in the Ukraine SIG or the Jewish communities database on Jewishgen

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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Sarah L Meyer
 

L' Shana Tova Tikutevu v' tikutema.  May you all be inscribed and sealed for a healthy, happy and prosperous New Year.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Rodrigo Marfinati Hervoso
 


On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 22:49 Avraham Groll, <agroll@...> wrote:
Wishing you all a Shana Tova, and a year filled with health, happiness, and only good things!


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

JPmiaou@...
 

Expanding a bit on Adam's excellent reply: whether your ancestors were Jewish or not, what it comes down to is that geography is not genetic, no matter what Ancestry and the other DNA companies would have you believe. I think the reference sample databases would need to be at least an order of magnitude bigger -- and more carefully researched! -- for DNA to be able to reliably tell apart neighboring populations, and to reduce the false pattern-population associations that currently plague the genre, but even then, migration will always mess up the urge to label populations geographically.

The recent revisions on Ancestry are a case in point: they used to put my mom as nearly all Eastern European, a broad but basically accurate category. The new estimate gives her 5% Scotland, which is so ridiculous I don't have the words. It's worse than MyHeritage's preposterous 6.3% Scandinavian.

The admixture estimates part of the DNA landscape is still "for entertainment value only"; I used to describe MH as the clown of the show, but I think with Ancestry's latest update, I'm going to have to revise that.

Julia Szent-Györgyi
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Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Molly Staub
 

Shana tova from Boca Raton, FL and thanks for all you do


Searching Michael GOLDSMITH Volochysk/Podvolochisk #ukraine

Karen ADELMAN
 

My grandfather,Michael GOLDSMITH, was from Volochisk.  He once told me his father was from Podvolochisk.  Looking for information on either/both towns and trying to locate any family.


Shana Tova

Andrzej
 

 

 

 

 

Keep safe and healthy

Andrzej Puchacz

Warsaw, Poland

 

 


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

The Becker's Email
 

Speaking English does not necessarily indicate your family spent time in England before arriving in the US.  My assumption would be that by the time they applied for US citizenship, they had picked up enough English to manage daily affairs.  They had to be in the US at  least 5 years before becoming a citizen and, for some, they were here a  lot longer.

And, as Sally notes in her reply, Germany, Russia and Poland seemed to be frequently re-dividing up parts of Europe.

Johanna Becker


This week's Yizkorbook excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #belarus #ukraine #yizkorbooks

Bruce Drake
 

Rosh Hashanah begins this evening, and here I bring you two excerpts from Yizkor books about the holiday, one from Gorodets in Belarus and the other from Podhajce in Ukraine.
The sounds of the shofar fill these memories of Gorodets in its chapter titled “Rosh Hashanah” and of Podhajce in its telling of “The First Day of Rosh Hashanah, and the Observance of Tashlich.”
In the crowded Gorodets synagogue there is “a holy stillness…An intense chill runs through the body. The sound of the shofar is carried throughout the whole street. The tones produced by the shofar feel like an effusion – outpouring of a desolate spirit of hundreds and hundreds of years of living in the Diaspora, mixed with the closeness to God.”
In Podhajce, “The crowds of worshippers reached the river, and their lips uttered the Tashlich prayer, whose main theme is to “cast to the depths of the sea all of their sins.” The author writes “when the prayer was done, “personal oppression was lifted from the heart. However, the masses of worshippers remained standing at the banks of the river without moving. The last rays of sunlight lit up their faces. As I looked around, I saw the bent forms of those standing in prayer at the banks of the river straighten out.”

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

8441 - 8460 of 658749