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ID card microfilms reels for Lodz ghetto workers: searching link in Polish State Archives web site #lodz #holocaust

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,

You may know Lodz ghetto's Jewish administration left 800.000 pages of archives.

 

These archives have been microfilmed (ca 700 reels) and are available at USHMM where I discovered them ...ten years ago. Thanks again to Ms. Megan Lewis, reference librarian.

 

They are also available at Yad Vashem and for some years, directly online at Polish State Archives : https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/39/278/0#tabZespol

 

Ca. 13.000 individual ID cards for Lodz ghetto workers had been microfilmed on reel 673 to 695 and have been indexed by a JewishGen team a few years ago.

 

But for some unknown reason, I can't find these microfilms directly on PSA website: unit 1011 is empty and there is no indication where could be these microfilms?

 

Thanks for any idea?

 

Khavershaft

 

Bernard Flam

Archives and history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle) of France

 

Searching :

ZYSMAN, KRONENBERG, ROTTERSMAN around Lodz

FLAM, AGID, STOLTZ around Lemberg


Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Jill Whitehead
 

The pattern of not recording births on time, or late by some months or years, that was practised in the old country continued into the new country, because our ancestors were distrustful of authority and the constant fear they may be asked to move on, or be arrested etc for whatever reason.

My Abrahams/Abrams (formerly Ceglaski) great grandparents came to Manchester, UK in 1867 from Suwalki, and eight of their nine children were born in Manchester. These children were all given certain dates of birth on their official birth records which in every case were completely at odds with the birth records given in their official school reports, and it may be that neither were correct. My grandmother Hannah always told her family her birthdate was 31st October 1875, but her English birth record gives it as February 1876. Her school records give another date again in between the two.

On my Guttenberg (later Graham) side, where my great grandfather Aaron came from Rajgrod to Hull in c 1865 to avoid the Tsar's draft, the birth of one of his sons was announced in the Jewish Chronicle at least one week before the date given on his official birth record. I never got to grips with the date on which Aaron was born as it was given in various Polish and other records any time between 1844 and 1850. As he had a wife and baby daughter when he came to Hull, it was unlikely he was born as late as 1850.

In the records on JRI Poland, I had problems working out if my great grand uncle Barnet Servian ne Baruch Serwianski from Sejny was born in 1855 or 1859. It transpired he was born in 1855 but his birth was registered in 1859.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Percentages of ancestry - my Ashkenazi father seems to be partly of Italian/Greek descent? #dna

GEORGE MASON
 

Hello SarahRose,
Another thing to consider is that, after the conquest of Jerusalem in 78 CE, Jews spread through the Roman World. Gradually, the largest concentration of Jews formed in what is now Spain and Portugal. In the 1490's, the Jews were expelled from Spain and had to find other countries that would take them in. Some went to Egypt and the Middle East, some when up through France and Germany and Hungary into the Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania in the 1500's, and some went to Italy and Greece. So, perhaps you have a Sephardic Jewish ancestor in your family tree !
Good luck in your search.
George Mason
USA


Re: Warsaw birth record - house number but no street? #warsaw

Eva Lawrence
 

The general answer to the problem of locating the street when the only address given is a house number,  is to search for a series of address books for the town in question. At some stage in the town's history, there must have been a switch-over  from the old address system to a new one with street names as well as  numbers,  and  an address book  or directory would have been published to help citizens with the change. Koenig was a  prolific publisher of such books, but I've seen others. 
Local town and university  archives would usually have copies of old address books.
 
For German towns. try the link
 
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Portal:Adressbuch
 
A certain amount of patience is needed to navigate your way through.
 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Percentages of ancestry - my Ashkenazi father seems to be partly of Italian/Greek descent? #dna

Jill Whitehead
 

Hi Sarah Rose,

The very small 3% for SE Europe probably relates to your deep ancestry from way back in time (it is too small to be reliable). It is very common in those of Jewish ancestry to have ancestry in SE Europe which includes Greece - a lot of Jewish lines travelled the Mediteranean with the ancient Greek empire . I also have a trace from SE Europe (11% on FTDNA).

However, not all the DNA websites agree and I have different interpretations of my results on FTDNA, 23andme, Ancestry and MyHeritage. Some do not give SE Europe at all, whereas others are more specific e.g. if you have a detailed K36 analysis (avialable on Gedmatch for free and on other sites for a small fee).

I suggest you get your maternal direct line (mtdna) tested and also a brother or father's direct male line (ydna) tested with FTDNA. This will give you further clues about ancient origins. This will give you the haplogroups (DNA tribes if you like) of your direct line ancestors, and where they originally came from. There are some very specific Jewish ones, some common but others rare.

FTDNA has a lot of info on its website about origins, and there are plenty of online guides, as well as papers and books on the subject.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Where is Raisefka USSR #russia #poland

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Hello Ellen, hello Krzysztof,
You can get a much easier access with our alphabet to same Polish index by using this link to one of Stephen Morse's portal, thanks to his work :
https://stevemorse.org/siberia/siberia.html
I use it often and always find our Polish jewish parents who escaped to East into Russia after Poland invasion by 3rd Reich and Soviet Union in September 1939.
Ca. 250.000 fled in 1939, ca. 150.000 returned after 1945.
A lot of men had been enroled in Red Army and died (KIA, MIA), a lot of persons died from same starvation and diseases as russian people living there.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives and history of Medem Center (Bund / Workmen Circle) of France
Searching : FLAM, AGID, STOLTZ around Lemberg / Lwow / Lviv
ZYSMAN, KRONENBERG, ROTTERSMAN around Lodz


Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Eva Lawrence
 

Laws about only allowing the oldest son to marry were certainly believed
to be in existence in some areas and in certain jurisdictions, whether
that was the case or not.
It's the only explanation I can think of for the fact that my 4xgreat
grandfather and his older brother lied about their relative ages on the
former's civil marriage record in 1832 in Bonn, Regierungsbezirk Coeln.
which had become part of Prussia in 1815, after years of checkered
history and French rule.
Anselm Ungar brought a one-year-old child into the marriage, while his
older brother Leopold, a witness on the record, was still unmarried.
The discrepancy caused all sorts of difficulties
on the family's later civil records, and I've not yet disentangled all
the facts about the whole episode.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Kacska family #usa

janetvenuti@...
 

Ibrkieve the name was changed to Cohan or Cohen when they came to US


Looking for Lapes (Lopis, Lapis) Odessa/Ukraine 1880s #ukraine

david.lapes@...
 

Through the databases we have linked back to the USA and UK c. 1890. Lapis (via Yad-Vashem) seems to be spread throughout the Pale - but we don't have more definitive clues.

We have made some decent connections in the US post migration but no clear origins.

David Lapes - London

Lapes, Lapis, Lopis

William Lopis - 1840 (UKR)
Nathan Lapes - 1854 (UKR)

Descendents - Pugatsky, Lerner, Susman


Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

rv Kaplan
 

Hi Marcel

Even if she had a Jewish ancestor, it's unlikely to have made her mother Jewish, so it would be wrong to say that her children are Jewish.

Of course, many people in Europe and elsewhere had Jewish ancestry somewhere - which is now being indicated by dna testing - but it's really only academic.

best wishes

Harvey Kaplan


On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 02:07, Marcel Apsel <marcap@...> wrote:

Hi Harvey,

 

You have a point that Princess Kate is maybe not of Jewish descent.  I have been told some years ago that her maternal grandfather was of Jewish descent.  I found out tonight that her ancestor John Goldsmith lived in the East End.  The information I got years ago that a lot of Jews during the 17th and 18th century moved from Amsterdam (mostly Sefardi) and Northern Germany (mostly Ashkenazi) to London and settled in the East End of London.  During de following decades (mostly after 1750) a lot of Jews assimilated completely and tried to wipe out their Jewish connections.  I cannot proof anything  about John Goldsmiith and I am not looking forward to find a proof, even though he lived in the East End, but I have a personal experience with a colleague of our local Jewish Genealogical Society, whose family name is Jones and this family live in Belgium for almost 150 years, coming from the East End of London, where their ancestors settled about 100 years earlier (about 1750) and before then coming somewhere from Northern Germany.  He has done some research in London himself about 10-15 years ago with no really positive results.  He knows that ancestors of his (about 200 years ago) were called Jonathan and I told him that probably they wanted to Anglicize their name into a British sounding name and as hypothesis I told him that Jones was probably (with no proof) a phonetic adaption In English from Jonathan.  My conclusion is that plenty former Eastenders might be of Jewish descents, because at a certain moment they had a large community.  But again, this is only an assumption and not formal proof.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Re: EISENSTADT #belarus

zborik@...
 

Hi Alan,
Eisenstat Feyga Haimova from Shedrin asked passport for immigration in 1923 

Eisenshtadt Shebshel Mendelev born 1910 from Minsk ask passport for Palestine in 1929


Re: Looking for a researcher who lives in Vitebsk #belarus

zborik@...
 

Hi,
first of all if you know the documents you can write directly in Archive and they will send you copies
If you dont have such possibility I probably can go there - give me please details


Re: What Do You Pay a Translator for a 50 Page Document in Pollsh #translation

Yehuda Berman
 

I don't know the translation charge from Polish to  English but I should imagine that a lot depends on how long it takes to translate a page, and what the cost of living is in a given country. I'm a semi-retired professional translator from Hebrew to English, mostly academic articles and books. I charge per double-spaced English page (because an English page is about 30-35 % longer than a Hebrew page, which is written without vowels). On the average a good translation takes about an hour per 250 word English page. The cost of living here is high. Anybody in Israel who charged $2 a page (like the German translator) would have a hard time making ends meet. Assuming that, unlike Hebrew, it takes only 15 minutes to translate a page from Polish to English, in a 40 hour week he would earn $320, or about $16,000 a year.  Three possibilities: 1) the cost of living is low; 2) he only translates part-time and his main job is something else; 3) quality leaves something to be desired.
--
Yehuda Berman
Efrat, Israel

Searching: BERMAN, Tomashpil, Ukraine; KOGAN, Chisinau (Kishinev); ECHTMAN, Odessa; KAMINSKY, Odessa


Re: Jewish gauchos Argentina #latinamerica

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi Michael,
 
In addition to all the other answers that you have already received you can contact the "Museo de las Colonias Judias de Entre Rios" (https://es-la.facebook.com/museo.villadominguez/) who has a huge archive related to the people living in the colonies.
 
Also, if your relative arrived in Argentina through the JCA program, you can contact the Jewish Museum of Buenos Aires (http://museojudio.org.ar/) who has the archives with the JCA passenger lists. 
 
Best,
Ariel Parkansky


Re: Eastern European surname suffix in transliteration #translation #names

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Avigdor,
Russian has NO sound (and, naturally, no letter) "W". So I always transliterate it as V.
The last sound "ch": transliterating into English I use the  "ch" which sounds like in "chair, change".
I don't speak Polish so I am not sure how sound "cz" and don't use it.
from Hebrew: if this is "tsadi" it is transliterated "ts". If it is tsadi', with apostroph, it is "ch".
there is no letter for "ch" in Yiddish, it uses "tet-shin"
you wrote: or Borovich). The latter usage seems unsound
phonetically.
Why?
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: Hebrew gravestone translation #translation

fredelfruhman
 

The date was read correctly by the first person who responded, namely:  the 8th of Cheshvan, 5679.
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

btkerman@...
 

My gg grandfather registered the births of multiple children (including some who were already deceased) at one time a few years after some of their births. There is a note in the records that the reason for the delay was his constant traveling.
We know he was involved in textile trade in the area around Lodz and assume that he often traveled for work reasons. This also could be why there are contradictory records for his childrens' births listing both Belchatow and Zloczew as the birthplaces, while family lore was always that the family was from Lodz.
Something to consider is that people were more mobile than we might assume. Travel took longer but was still done. Something as simple as traveling could be a reason for delayed registration.

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


Searching for Gross, Sloman, Jacobs, Harris families #unitedkingdom

Richard Gross
 

24 May 2020

I’m looking for the following families and/or information about them please.

1. Anna (aka Annie) SAMUEL nee GROSS. She was married to Paul Y SAMUEL (YANPOLSKI). Annie was born in Leeds, UK in 1866 and died on 14 Oct 1937 in Chicago. I have a lot of information about her husband but have no idea why she was in Chicago. Can someone help with this? Anna’s mother was Sarah Gross nee Sloman, sister to Jessie below.

2. Samuel GROSS (1824-1917) married Jessie SLOMAN (1842-1910) in 1859 in Leeds, Yorkshire, UK. They emigrated almost at once for the USA and settled in Brooklyn, NYC where their four children were born.

a) Hyman (1861-1925) married Lillian Guinzberg (1867-?1930). She was born somewhere in Pennsylvania. They had two sons - Walter E (1890-1964) and Howard J (1897-?).

i) Walter married Anne Strassner (1899-1990) and they had two sons - Stanley H (1923-?) and Harold Victor (1925-2015).
ii) Harold married Esther H Utal (1925-1968) who was born and died in New York. Their son was Donald S Gross (1952- ).

b) Rebecca married Abraham Goldsmith/Goldschmidt (1862-1929) from New York. They had no children.
c) Solomon Richard married Esther aka Etta Rosenbaum (1879-?) in1908 in New York. They had no children as far as I know.
d) Reuben never married.

Beulah Gross in Australia
Researching GROSS, JACOBS, HARRIS, SLOMAN all from Leeds, Yorkshire, UK, Kimberley, South Africa and New York, USA.


More about unwed mothers: #germany #general

Roger Lustig
 

Peter Cohen asks:

I do not know if it applies to 1840, but there were times when
authorities in some German cities attempted to control the Jewish
population by only allowing the oldest son to marry. This was largely
unsuccessful because the Jews were not terribly concerned about civil
marriage, as long as they were religiously married. But, this resulted
in a lot of "illegitimate" births because the parents were not permitted
to marry in a civil ceremony.

David Lewin comments:

Are you certain about "only allowing the oldest son to marry" ? I know
of only the head of the family and the oldest son allowed to earn a
living, but never heard of marriage prohibition.

================

As with most questions of this sort, not only the date but the place
must be specified. In 1840, only those parts of Germany west of the
Rhine plus Nassau and perhaps one or two other small principalities had
civil marriage at all.

The prohibition on marriage may not have been stated as such, but was
essentially the case in places where only one son of a resident could
establish himself as a resident, taking over his parent's residence
permit, so to speak. Since marriage was as much a property transaction
as a blessing of a union, establishing oneself and marrying went hand in
hand.

In the event, Bavaria (the Palatinate excepted) was notable for
continuing the restrictions on sons' establishing themselves until 1861.
Most other states had abolished such rules some time before.

Roger Lustig

Princeton, NJ USA

research coordinator, GerSIG


Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Regarding births in 1840s Germany that were entered as illegitimate,
Rich Meyersburg asks:

1.  Was this common?

2.  Was this due to a difficulty in obtaining services for either a
religious or civil marriage? (in the first instance)

3. How was this usually treated by the community?

1: Yes. In my experience, between 5 and 8 percent of births were to
unwed mothers.

2: I don't think civil marriage existed in 1840s Hessen-Kassel, which is
where Hebenshausen was located. Among Jews, obtaining services was not a
problem, as any Jewish male could officiate, and in towns without a
rabbi, the schoolteacher or shochet or cantor (often all the same
person) was called upon for such tasks. In other towns, the head of the
congregation would officiate.

3: Unwed Jewish mothers weren't shunned, generally. Some later married,
some did not. Children of unwed mothers were treated like other children.

Roger Lustig

Princeton, NJ

Research coordinator, GerSIG