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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Hello Leah,

What you are looking for are called Emigration Questionnaires in English translation. They were administered by the Israelitisches Kultusgemeinde Wien and copies have been available from them. I have obtained copies for many, but not all, of my relatives. These documents are full of family information and some depressing thoughts by the applicants. Last time I checked, there was some confusion about how they were indexed. Those indexed by name were readily available; those indexed by date were difficult to obtain. Write to s.uslu-pauer@... for information on your relatives.

Good luck,

Tom Weiss
Needham, MA


Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

Marcel Apsel
 

Yale Zuss has at least the honesty to say he was not claiming that he is of Davidic descent.  Me too.  A major problem in Jewish genealogy is that some people are desperate to be linked to a famous scholar and it happens quite often that even some rabbis are fabricating genealogies through syllogism, by using distorted analyses.  And those distorted analyses will be used in the future as correct facts  I see it often in geni, were for example, a son is born 30 years after the mother passed away, or a girl named after a living mother (Ashkenazi) etc …

I heard once that even the British royal family claims to be of Davidic descent.  I do not know it this is through or not; anyhow impossible to prove.  One thing is for sure : the third heir of the British crown, prince George is Jewish; his mother princess Kate is Jewish, because princess Kate’s mother was a Goldsmith and from Jewish descent.  In Great Britain a lot of politicians are of Jewish descent.  Order, order, John Bercow, former speaker of the Parliament is a descendant of Romanian Jews.  Etc. etc …

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium  


Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

rv Kaplan
 

My great aunt, Golda Felman, was born in 1886 in Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine, but her birth certificate was obtained in 1906 - the year she left for Scotland.
 
My great grandfather, Wolf Linderman, was born in Plock, Poland in 1868 or 1870 (depending on whether you believe the Book of Residents), but he and his siblings had their births registered in 1881 - I suspect shortly before they departed for London.
 
They probably thought they might need these documents in their new homes.
 

Harvey L Kaplan,  Glasgow, Scotland   <rvlkaplan@...>

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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Renée K. Carl
 

I believe, but I am not certain, that the exit questionnaires are available at USHMM via the library, but you cannot access them online for privacy reasons. Not all families were included in the exist forms. If I remember correctly if the family received assistance from the IKG, they had a questionnaire. It's been a while since I have worked on these records. Others might have more info.

If the family had money/property, then also consult Res als Unrecht. The index is online https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=20603 but the records are stored in Vienna. I believe I found your family in them but you will need to check the birthdates.

I hope this helps,   Renee Carl,  Washington DC   <rkcarl@...>


Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"It was registered three months following the event.  Why might they have waited so long to report it?"
 
Why would a Jew register their births at all in Russia (or elsewhere in Europe)? Birth records were used to draft boys and tax families. Civil marriages were sometimes heavily taxed or even banned, so the children were recorded as illegitimate. So why would you do it.
 
In the US today, almost all births are in hospitals, so it is done for you, by the hospital (or midwife, if she is licensed); this is the law, and nobody objects to it. Russia was different because nobody trusted the government.
 
I have seen records of people with birth records registered 20 or more years later, because, perhaps, they need it to marry - if they want to marry civilly.  I had a (female) cousin who was a lawyer in New York nearly 100 years ago, and she had to get a birth record from Russia to prove whatever to take the bar exam. I have a copy of it. It wasn't done at the time of her birth but long after, but it satisfied the requirement, apparently.
 
Sally Bruckheimer,  Princeton, NJ  <sallybruc@...>


Re: "Mother" (But Not "Husband") On a Married Woman's Grave #general

rhonda.post@...
 

Meron Lavie wrote: "I recently found a photo of a relative's grave, a married woman with a young child, who died in 1910.The headstone has "BELOVED MOTHER" inscribed above the woman's name, and concludes at the bottom with "MOTHER". The woman was married and the husband was still alive and healthy when she died.Is there any significance to the fact she is not described as "BELOVED HUSBAND" and "HUSBAND", as well? Am I reading too much into this?   I already have some other strong circumstantial evidence that this guy was not "Husband of the Year" material.==================>

Hello Meron:

I have two comments on your post.

1. If the woman's grave has Beloved Mother, it means the deceased is a female. Therefore, it would never say Husband. It would say Wife.

2. Have you looked at when the husband died? I found my great-grandmother's grave and it also said only Mother. When she passed away, she was a grandmother as well as a great-grandmother. Her husband had died decades before. Her sons paid for the grave stone. It is my guess they thought of her as their mother and therefore that is what was put on her marker. I am unsure if the cost would have been extra to add the additional titles and therefore Mother was sufficient.

I hope this helps.    Rhonda Post    Rhonda.Post@...


Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Thanks.

My grandfather's Ellis Island "Cause of Detention" codes are "JPG      1140      Monn".

Any ideas as to what they mean?   He apparently was released the next day.
--
Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
kenneth.ryesky@...

Belarus:  Gomel:  RAISKY, SHKOLNIK(OV), ARONOV, AEROV

Ukraine:  Yelizavetgrad:  Broad/Brodsky (also Odessa), Gertzig/Gertzog
Ukraine/Russia/Turkey:  Yevpatoriya:  Israelson, Arshenov


Re: Domestic visas #austria-czech

Michael Hoffman
 

 Peter Heilbrunn wrote:  My mother came to England from Vienna in April 1939 on a so called Domestic Visa or Green Card. I have learnt a lot about refugees from Austria who came to England but never found a sample of a Domestic Visa. Does anyone know where I could find one?   ===============>

Hi Peter,
I have a copy of a Domestic Permit issued by the Ministry of Labour & National Service for a relative of mine who originally
arrived in the UK in 1946.

Contact me privately and I will send you a copy. This permit was amongst this persons Naturalisation Papers at the UK National Archives in Kew.

Regards,   Michael Hoffman,   Borehamwood,  HERTS, UK.  <mikeh25@...>


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #lithuania #yizkorbooks

Bruce Drake
 

A section of the Yizkor book of Švencionys, Lithuania is titled “Heroism.” It contains the accounts of “the Jewish heroes from the region about the daily battle they fought in the ranks of the various partisan units within the regular Lithuanian division. In simple language, in plain words, the heroes, these heroes recount their experiences.“

The subject of “The Revenge on this Bright Day” was an odious Nazi named Freidrich Olin (I could not find out any more about him) who showed up in Sventzian in “a dark, chequered suit, recently pressed, his patent leather shoes stepping lightly, quietly shining from far away.” He had brought with him a new camera and the ensuing slaughter that he oversaw was, for him, like a “suspense film never seen on screen. He is enraptured.”

A young partisan named Shimon tells his commander: “For our tortured people, for those who were murdered – I shall kill and the enemy will be defeated. I promise you, Comrade commander, Olin will not escape my hands!…”

He was true to his word.


URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/3055881134434021?__tn__=K-R


Bruce Drake

Silver Spring MD


Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

Marian
 

RR is for "railroad."  In this case, a woman and her daughter traveling alone, it probably means they were released to the custody of the railroad for delivery to the waiting relative.  In some such cases the railroad company was required to return a receipt to the Immigration Service documenting the immigrants were delivered to said relative at the destination.  Some railroad lines employed women "matrons" to ride the trains and accompany groups of women and children "traveling alone" and deliver them at stops along the route.

Marian <portofentry@...>
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Re: Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

Two of my Guttenberg great aunts/uncles, brother and sister Abraham Simon (b Hull 1872) and Rachel Guttenberg (b Hull 1882) married Gorfunkles, Minnie and Isaac. Both the Guttenberg and Gorfunkels (spelt various ways) came from Rajgrod in Lomza Gubernia and both came to UK in the 1860's. The Gorfunkels went to Liverpool and the Guttenbergs went to Hull, Grimsby and then Sheffield. Minnie and Isaac were two of the children of Lazarus and Sprinza Gorfunkel. They can be found in the Liverpool Censuses of 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. Minnie and Mina Gorfunkel sound like a family naming pattern.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Warsaw birth record - house number but no street? #warsaw

Elizabeth Jackson
 

I have received a birth record from Warsaw.  It is interesting that the house numbers for my family and the witnesses are indicated, but the street name is not given.  How might I learn the street name?

Elizabeth Jackson   <cattheater@...>


Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Elizabeth Jackson
 

I have received a birth record from Warsaw for my Great Aunt.  It was registered three months following the event.  Why might they have waited so long to report it?

 Elizabeth Jackson <cattheater@...>

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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Michael Hoffman
 

Hello Leah Heilpern Snider,

Contact World Jewish Relief in London, England as they have an archive documenting Refugees from before and after WWII.
The website page that you want is as follows:-  https://www.worldjewishrelief.org/about-us/your-family-history 
Jerry Springer obtained his family records from World Jewish Relief.

Regards,  Michael Hoffman,  Borehamwood,   HERTS, UK   <mikeh25@...>


Seek English translation of Professor Dov Levin's 12-page research paper on Riga Ghetto Underground Resistance Movement #latvia #holocaust

GEORGE MASON
 

Can anyone tell me if there exists an English translation of the late Professor Dov Levin's 12-page paper, "The Tactics of the Gestapo towards the Underground Resistance in Riga Ghetto in the light of German documents" ? It was originally presented by Professor Levin at the Sixth World Congress of Jewish Studies held at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1973. My Uncle was a member of the Underground Resistance in Riga Ghetto and I would be very interested to know the contents of Professor Levin's paper.

Thank You,   George Mason   <gmason3815@...>   USA


Re: Need a translation of word in Hebrew letters in the last will of Salomon SCHLOSS, Mömlingen #germany #translation #yiddish

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

Thank you to all who have replied to me. I am sure that
Salomon Schloß meant "shalom", in the deeper meaning of the
word. Since often words in the German text are written in
the way they are pronounced in the Franconian dialect of the
Lower Main, some words are not immediately apparent to
German readers too - only speaking loudly leads to
understanding.

I should perhaps have added that the text was written on 12
July 1868. He died the same day. Salomon Schloß left behind
a fortune of over 23,000 guilders. Salomon was married
twice. After his death, the children of the second marriage
acted as the principal heirs, as the father had wished. The
siblings from the first marriage, or, as two were already
dead, their children, received more than they would have
been legally entitled to. One brother, Nathan Schloß, had
died in Richmond, Virginia (unfortunately no further data
available).

Ernst-Peter (Winter), Münster, Hesse


Re: Sharing family tree information #general

neilan1
 

Regarding the entering of family tree info on a website such as Ancestry, it's a good idea to ask first. When I first followed Ancestry' s policy of leaving the names of living relatives off of the tree, I received so many complaints from family members who were UPSET that they WEREN'T listed, that I now ask first. Only one small family group ever declined, as the husband worked for the government.
Neilan Stern


Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Stephen Katz
 

Have you tried contacting the IKG Wien directly? The website is https://www.ikg-wien.at.
Stephen Katz 


Re: Need a translation of word in Hebrew letters in the last will of Salomon SCHLOSS, Mömlingen #germany #translation #yiddish

asafeig@...
 

I think the word is "Shalom" = Peace (שלום). Only it's written as it heard in a Yiddishe dialect שולם = "Sholem".