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Koscian gravestones documented before cemetery destroyed? #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

In a file c. 1942 apparently concerning the destruction of the Koscian
cemetery is a typewritten list of names, birth dates, and death dates
from 65 cemetery monuments. Scans of the list are viewable at
http://goo.gl/EJbLnn and http://goo.gl/0p9L4v, and the entire file is
viewable at http://goo.gl/R8sV2o (shortened links for pages on
szukajwarchiwach.pl). Perhaps, someone familiar with Koscian can
examine this file more closely, transcribe, etc.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JRI Poland #Poland Koscian gravestones documented before cemetery destroyed? #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

In a file c. 1942 apparently concerning the destruction of the Koscian
cemetery is a typewritten list of names, birth dates, and death dates
from 65 cemetery monuments. Scans of the list are viewable at
http://goo.gl/EJbLnn and http://goo.gl/0p9L4v, and the entire file is
viewable at http://goo.gl/R8sV2o (shortened links for pages on
szukajwarchiwach.pl). Perhaps, someone familiar with Koscian can
examine this file more closely, transcribe, etc.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


genealogical chart--someone with expertise #galicia

Carol Sicherman <csicher@...>
 

The two families who form the core of my postcard research pose
problems beyond my scope because of the tendency for cousins to
marry cousins, not to mention the repetition of the same name. Can
anyone recommend an expert who could take on this task? What I need
now, because of a grant deadline, is an idea of the cost.

Thank you,

Carol Sicherman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send recommendations of professionals
privately.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia genealogical chart--someone with expertise #galicia

Carol Sicherman <csicher@...>
 

The two families who form the core of my postcard research pose
problems beyond my scope because of the tendency for cousins to
marry cousins, not to mention the repetition of the same name. Can
anyone recommend an expert who could take on this task? What I need
now, because of a grant deadline, is an idea of the cost.

Thank you,

Carol Sicherman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send recommendations of professionals
privately.


Re: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Yefim, all

I believe that anyone who wishes to research his ancestors should
familiarize himself with at least the basic facts in the history and
geography of the regions where their ancestors once lived. Knowing
such facts will help directing the research to the right directions.
As there is confusion between the area of the Republic of Moldova and
the Romanian Moldova there might be confusion at local level among
settlements with the same name. Just for example there are a ten
places by the name of Stefanesti in Romania and three in the Republic
of Moldova. I hope I am not wrong, but only Stefanesti, Botosani
county had a prominent Jewish presence. Another example is the famous
city of Radautz, Bukowina, who has a namesake, a small place by the
name of Radautz-Prut, in Botosani county. So it's easy to get confused
if one avoids learning the basic facts.
One additional remarks - Romanian civil state records are kept at
county level, at each county archive branch. Only national level
historical documents are kept at the archives of Bucharest or Iasi.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Yefim A Kogan yefimk@verizon.net
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SI=
G
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting simil=
ar
questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and man=
y
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.

Let's start with terminology.
The term Moldavia and Moldova mean the same region! Moldova is in Romani=
an
language and Moldavia was adopted by Russian and other languages, includi=
ng
English. Charles King in "The Moldovans. Romania, Russia, and the Polit=
ics
of Culture", Stanford U., 1999 writes that "It is a myth that Moldova
changed its name >from Moldavia. What happened in the 1990s was simply t=
hat
we in the West became better informed about what locals themselves had
always called it."

So let's dive into the history of the region:

Moldavia is known as a country or Principality >from 14 century until 1812=
.
There were also two other Danube or Romanian Principalities Walachia and
Transilvania. At some point in the history Moldavia joined other
Principalities. In 1538 Moldovia surrendered to Ottoman Empire, and
remained under Turks for about 300 years. It was not a colonization in a
strict sense. Moldavia inhabitants exercise their Christian Orthodoxy,
Turks were not able to settle in the region, except in several fortified
towns on the border, and in far north and south parts of the region.

You can find details about the history, governments of the region at our
Bessarabia SIG website or directly at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/HistoryOfJewsInBessarabia15-19c=
.pd
f

History of Jews in Bessarabia in the 15th to 19th Centuries Geography,
History, Social Status, 2008, Yefim Kogan
You also can find a set of historical maps on Moldova at Wikimedia at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_the_history_of_Moldov=
a
and many more maps and articles on the topic of today?s discussion.

Here is a simple version (I probably missed a few details).
Starting >from 18 century Russia tried to influence Moldavia, occupied it =
at
the end of 18 century, established military rule, fought many wars on the
territory of Moldova with Ottomans. Finally Moldavia was divided in 1775=
,
when Austrian Empire occupied part of Moldova - Bukovina, and in 1812
Russian Empire received the eastern part of Moldavia, a region between
rivers Prut and Dnester. That region became Bessarabia Oblast and later =
in
19c Bessarabia Gubernia (province).

In 1812 the rest of Moldova (western part) was still under Ottoman rule
until Moldavia and Walachia formed Romania. Romania was officially
recognized as an independent country in 1878.

One additional swap of lands: >from 1856-1878 south-western part of
Bessarabia went back to Moldova. That region included towns of Izmail,
Kiliya, Reni, Leovo, Kagul. You can see the map with that region on page=
4
of the article above.

Let's follow the history: until WWI nothing changed in the region. Aft=
er
WWI and Russian Revolution of 1917 and Russian Civil War, the region of
North Bukovina and Bessarabia went back Romanian rule. This is why who e=
ver
lived in Bessarabia in 1920-1940 knows that they were born in Romania, bu=
t
in many cases their parents who were born in the same shteitlakh, but bef=
ore
1917 know that they were born in Russia.

In 1940 Soviet Union took the lands of Bessarabia and North Bukovina back=
.
This is the time that was formed Moldavskaya Sovetskaya Sotsialisticheska=
ya
Respublika (MSSR, one of 15 Soviet Republics. MSSR Included most part of
Bessarabia and a small region on the left side of Dniester River, now cal=
led
Transnistria (with towns of Tiraspol, Rybnitsa, Kamenka, Slobodzeya,
Rashkov, etc.) Also south region of Bessarabia with towns of Akkerman,
Kiliya, Ismail, Reni, and far north region of Bessarabia with towns of
Khotin, Sokeryani, Klishkivtsi, Novoselitsa, etc. became part of Ukraine
Soviet Republic.

Here is my personal story >from my family who lived in what is Bessarabia =
for
several centuries:
- I was born in the Soviet Union, Republic of Moldova;
- My parents were born in Romania;
- Grandparents were born in Russian Empire?

What's happening in 1990s you probably know well.

I hope I did not bored you?

Why we are confused?

- Our members are looking for information about their relatives, and they
see that now Bessarabia Vital records database and Bessarabia Revision Li=
st
database has more than 250,000 records. But if the towns the relatives l=
ive
are Moinesti or Tirgu Ocna no records will be in the Bessarabia Database!

The thing is that the Romania (Moldova) and Bessarabia (Republic of Mold=
ova
+ parts of Ukraine) have different genealogy. Bessarabian records are
written mostly in Russian or Russian and Hebrew, and Romanian (Moldova)
records most likely were written in Romanian.
Also most of the Bessarabian records are held in Chisinau (Kishinev, this
is how I remember that town), and of course the Romanian records are mos=
t
likely in Yassy, a provincial center in what used to be Moldova
Principality, and later a large center in Moldova region of Romania.

- The same names Moldova, or Moldavia are used for land in current state =
of
Romania, that is the western part of Romania, as well as the whole countr=
y
of Republic of Moldova.

I have suggested a number of times to JewishGen to avoid at least some of
the confusions:
1. Rename the Romanian Database to Romania-Moldova Database or
Romania-Bessarabia Database
2. At the list of Romanian Databases there is a section Moldavia, but i=
t
should be Romania (Moldavia)
3. The section of Moldavia Vital Records should be renamed Romania
(Moldavia) Vital Records.
I believe that these small modifications will be very helpful.

If you have any questions or probably even more questions than before,
please let's discuss, send to me or to the group.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, Chin=
a



---------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Moldova Cem. Project

Hello Yefim,
I've been following this project and appreciate your more complete break
down in today's Jewishgen Digest. I did contribute to Bob Wascou before =
he
passed. The reason for this message is that I'm confused. My family wer=
e
from Moinesti and Tirgu Ocna, both near each other in Moldova. However,
this area was not Bessarabia. ?..

Can you explain what areas of Moldova are covered other than Bessarabia a=
nd
Chisanou (sp.).
Many Thanks,
Marilyn Newman
Florida, formerly Pittsburgh


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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Yefim, all

I believe that anyone who wishes to research his ancestors should
familiarize himself with at least the basic facts in the history and
geography of the regions where their ancestors once lived. Knowing
such facts will help directing the research to the right directions.
As there is confusion between the area of the Republic of Moldova and
the Romanian Moldova there might be confusion at local level among
settlements with the same name. Just for example there are a ten
places by the name of Stefanesti in Romania and three in the Republic
of Moldova. I hope I am not wrong, but only Stefanesti, Botosani
county had a prominent Jewish presence. Another example is the famous
city of Radautz, Bukowina, who has a namesake, a small place by the
name of Radautz-Prut, in Botosani county. So it's easy to get confused
if one avoids learning the basic facts.
One additional remarks - Romanian civil state records are kept at
county level, at each county archive branch. Only national level
historical documents are kept at the archives of Bucharest or Iasi.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Yefim A Kogan yefimk@verizon.net
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SI=
G
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting simil=
ar
questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and man=
y
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.

Let's start with terminology.
The term Moldavia and Moldova mean the same region! Moldova is in Romani=
an
language and Moldavia was adopted by Russian and other languages, includi=
ng
English. Charles King in "The Moldovans. Romania, Russia, and the Polit=
ics
of Culture", Stanford U., 1999 writes that "It is a myth that Moldova
changed its name >from Moldavia. What happened in the 1990s was simply t=
hat
we in the West became better informed about what locals themselves had
always called it."

So let's dive into the history of the region:

Moldavia is known as a country or Principality >from 14 century until 1812=
.
There were also two other Danube or Romanian Principalities Walachia and
Transilvania. At some point in the history Moldavia joined other
Principalities. In 1538 Moldovia surrendered to Ottoman Empire, and
remained under Turks for about 300 years. It was not a colonization in a
strict sense. Moldavia inhabitants exercise their Christian Orthodoxy,
Turks were not able to settle in the region, except in several fortified
towns on the border, and in far north and south parts of the region.

You can find details about the history, governments of the region at our
Bessarabia SIG website or directly at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/HistoryOfJewsInBessarabia15-19c=
.pd
f

History of Jews in Bessarabia in the 15th to 19th Centuries Geography,
History, Social Status, 2008, Yefim Kogan
You also can find a set of historical maps on Moldova at Wikimedia at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_the_history_of_Moldov=
a
and many more maps and articles on the topic of today?s discussion.

Here is a simple version (I probably missed a few details).
Starting >from 18 century Russia tried to influence Moldavia, occupied it =
at
the end of 18 century, established military rule, fought many wars on the
territory of Moldova with Ottomans. Finally Moldavia was divided in 1775=
,
when Austrian Empire occupied part of Moldova - Bukovina, and in 1812
Russian Empire received the eastern part of Moldavia, a region between
rivers Prut and Dnester. That region became Bessarabia Oblast and later =
in
19c Bessarabia Gubernia (province).

In 1812 the rest of Moldova (western part) was still under Ottoman rule
until Moldavia and Walachia formed Romania. Romania was officially
recognized as an independent country in 1878.

One additional swap of lands: >from 1856-1878 south-western part of
Bessarabia went back to Moldova. That region included towns of Izmail,
Kiliya, Reni, Leovo, Kagul. You can see the map with that region on page=
4
of the article above.

Let's follow the history: until WWI nothing changed in the region. Aft=
er
WWI and Russian Revolution of 1917 and Russian Civil War, the region of
North Bukovina and Bessarabia went back Romanian rule. This is why who e=
ver
lived in Bessarabia in 1920-1940 knows that they were born in Romania, bu=
t
in many cases their parents who were born in the same shteitlakh, but bef=
ore
1917 know that they were born in Russia.

In 1940 Soviet Union took the lands of Bessarabia and North Bukovina back=
.
This is the time that was formed Moldavskaya Sovetskaya Sotsialisticheska=
ya
Respublika (MSSR, one of 15 Soviet Republics. MSSR Included most part of
Bessarabia and a small region on the left side of Dniester River, now cal=
led
Transnistria (with towns of Tiraspol, Rybnitsa, Kamenka, Slobodzeya,
Rashkov, etc.) Also south region of Bessarabia with towns of Akkerman,
Kiliya, Ismail, Reni, and far north region of Bessarabia with towns of
Khotin, Sokeryani, Klishkivtsi, Novoselitsa, etc. became part of Ukraine
Soviet Republic.

Here is my personal story >from my family who lived in what is Bessarabia =
for
several centuries:
- I was born in the Soviet Union, Republic of Moldova;
- My parents were born in Romania;
- Grandparents were born in Russian Empire?

What's happening in 1990s you probably know well.

I hope I did not bored you?

Why we are confused?

- Our members are looking for information about their relatives, and they
see that now Bessarabia Vital records database and Bessarabia Revision Li=
st
database has more than 250,000 records. But if the towns the relatives l=
ive
are Moinesti or Tirgu Ocna no records will be in the Bessarabia Database!

The thing is that the Romania (Moldova) and Bessarabia (Republic of Mold=
ova
+ parts of Ukraine) have different genealogy. Bessarabian records are
written mostly in Russian or Russian and Hebrew, and Romanian (Moldova)
records most likely were written in Romanian.
Also most of the Bessarabian records are held in Chisinau (Kishinev, this
is how I remember that town), and of course the Romanian records are mos=
t
likely in Yassy, a provincial center in what used to be Moldova
Principality, and later a large center in Moldova region of Romania.

- The same names Moldova, or Moldavia are used for land in current state =
of
Romania, that is the western part of Romania, as well as the whole countr=
y
of Republic of Moldova.

I have suggested a number of times to JewishGen to avoid at least some of
the confusions:
1. Rename the Romanian Database to Romania-Moldova Database or
Romania-Bessarabia Database
2. At the list of Romanian Databases there is a section Moldavia, but i=
t
should be Romania (Moldavia)
3. The section of Moldavia Vital Records should be renamed Romania
(Moldavia) Vital Records.
I believe that these small modifications will be very helpful.

If you have any questions or probably even more questions than before,
please let's discuss, send to me or to the group.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, Chin=
a



---------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Moldova Cem. Project

Hello Yefim,
I've been following this project and appreciate your more complete break
down in today's Jewishgen Digest. I did contribute to Bob Wascou before =
he
passed. The reason for this message is that I'm confused. My family wer=
e
from Moinesti and Tirgu Ocna, both near each other in Moldova. However,
this area was not Bessarabia. ?..

Can you explain what areas of Moldova are covered other than Bessarabia a=
nd
Chisanou (sp.).
Many Thanks,
Marilyn Newman
Florida, formerly Pittsburgh


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Moldavia vs Moldova #bessarabia

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Thank you, Yefim. That is an excellent explanation for a situation
that so many people question (including myself).

Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bessarabia SIG digest" <bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "bessarabia digest recipients" <bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:04 AM
Subject: bessarabia digest: September 09, 2015

1. Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia
Subject: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia
From: "Yefim Kogan" <yefimk@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 17:07:39 -0400

Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SIG
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting
similar questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and many
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.........


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Moldavia vs Moldova #bessarabia

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Thank you, Yefim. That is an excellent explanation for a situation
that so many people question (including myself).

Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bessarabia SIG digest" <bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "bessarabia digest recipients" <bessarabia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:04 AM
Subject: bessarabia digest: September 09, 2015

1. Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia
Subject: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia
From: "Yefim Kogan" <yefimk@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 17:07:39 -0400

Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SIG
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting
similar questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and many
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.........


Searching the 1891 Galicia Business Directory #general

Chani Bonn <chanib1@...>
 

How does one search the directory itself?

Thanks.
Chana Bonn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching the 1891 Galicia Business Directory #general

Chani Bonn <chanib1@...>
 

How does one search the directory itself?

Thanks.
Chana Bonn


Koscian gravestones documented before cemetery destroyed? #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

In a file c. 1942 apparently concerning the destruction of the Koscian
cemetery is a typewritten list of names, birth dates, and death dates
from 65 cemetery monuments. Scans of the list are viewable at
http://goo.gl/EJbLnn and http://goo.gl/0p9L4v, and the entire file is
viewable at http://goo.gl/R8sV2o (shortened links for pages on
szukajwarchiwach.pl). Perhaps, someone familiar with Koscian can
examine this file more closely, transcribe, etc.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Koscian gravestones documented before cemetery destroyed? #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

In a file c. 1942 apparently concerning the destruction of the Koscian
cemetery is a typewritten list of names, birth dates, and death dates
from 65 cemetery monuments. Scans of the list are viewable at
http://goo.gl/EJbLnn and http://goo.gl/0p9L4v, and the entire file is
viewable at http://goo.gl/R8sV2o (shortened links for pages on
szukajwarchiwach.pl). Perhaps, someone familiar with Koscian can
examine this file more closely, transcribe, etc.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Naturalization Certificate Lookup Buffalo - County Court House #general

Allan Karan
 

Greetings,

I am looking for a someone to look up and make a copy of a naturalization
certificate filed at the Buffalo County Court House at 92 Franklin Street,
Buffalo, New York, 14202. I will reimburse all expense.
The naturalization certificate is for: Harry Leibelshon, Naturalized
November 14, 1928, Certificate Number 2859067.
If you can do this, please reply privately in case more than one person
replies. Thank you Allan.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;Chepeli;
Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN >from Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization Certificate Lookup Buffalo - County Court House #general

Allan Karan
 

Greetings,

I am looking for a someone to look up and make a copy of a naturalization
certificate filed at the Buffalo County Court House at 92 Franklin Street,
Buffalo, New York, 14202. I will reimburse all expense.
The naturalization certificate is for: Harry Leibelshon, Naturalized
November 14, 1928, Certificate Number 2859067.
If you can do this, please reply privately in case more than one person
replies. Thank you Allan.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;Chepeli;
Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN >from Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@hotmail.com


NTRO-researching KOENIG Family from Freiburg and Breslau Germany > Baltimore #germany

dottiew2@...
 

Hello GerSig,I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research
off and on for 37 years. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing German
Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Harford County, Maryland, USA. My native language is English and
unfortunately this is my only language. I use Google Translate a lot.
I am advanced-intermediate using a computer and I am very familiar with
using the internet.

I have identified the name, birth and death dates of my paternal grandmother.
Augusta Bertha KOENIG, b.29 May 1873 Freiburg, Germany (Swiebodzice, Poland),
d. 1 May 1940 Maryland, USA, married Albert GROTH in 1894 in Baltimore,
Maryland, USA.

My primary research goals now are to find out: Augusta's parents names
and her siblings including birth, marriage and death dates and name of
their church.

She came >from a large family of 12 children. She told my Father she was
half Jewish. She died years before I was born. My older cousins all confirm
she had one Jewish parent. Knowing the actual name of their place of
worship will be helpful going forward. My JGFF Researcher ID no. is 363741

The family name and ancestral towns that I have entered in the JGFF are:
KOENIG: Freiburg, Germany (now Swiebodzice, Poland) Prior to 1873 and after.
(she was the only family member to immigrate to the USA
KOENIG: Breslau, Germany 1850 forward
Augusta Bertha KOENIG - Freiburg, Germany to Baltimore, Maryland USA 10 Aug 1893
Johann Gottleib KOENIG - Breslau, Germany to Baltimore, Maryland USA 1881
(blacksmith)

Dottie Winterbottom, dottiew2@verizon.net Joppa, Maryland, USA


German SIG #Germany NTRO-researching KOENIG Family from Freiburg and Breslau Germany > Baltimore #germany

dottiew2@...
 

Hello GerSig,I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research
off and on for 37 years. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing German
Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Harford County, Maryland, USA. My native language is English and
unfortunately this is my only language. I use Google Translate a lot.
I am advanced-intermediate using a computer and I am very familiar with
using the internet.

I have identified the name, birth and death dates of my paternal grandmother.
Augusta Bertha KOENIG, b.29 May 1873 Freiburg, Germany (Swiebodzice, Poland),
d. 1 May 1940 Maryland, USA, married Albert GROTH in 1894 in Baltimore,
Maryland, USA.

My primary research goals now are to find out: Augusta's parents names
and her siblings including birth, marriage and death dates and name of
their church.

She came >from a large family of 12 children. She told my Father she was
half Jewish. She died years before I was born. My older cousins all confirm
she had one Jewish parent. Knowing the actual name of their place of
worship will be helpful going forward. My JGFF Researcher ID no. is 363741

The family name and ancestral towns that I have entered in the JGFF are:
KOENIG: Freiburg, Germany (now Swiebodzice, Poland) Prior to 1873 and after.
(she was the only family member to immigrate to the USA
KOENIG: Breslau, Germany 1850 forward
Augusta Bertha KOENIG - Freiburg, Germany to Baltimore, Maryland USA 10 Aug 1893
Johann Gottleib KOENIG - Breslau, Germany to Baltimore, Maryland USA 1881
(blacksmith)

Dottie Winterbottom, dottiew2@verizon.net Joppa, Maryland, USA


name question #ukraine

Joel Ackerman <jrsackerman@...>
 

Does anyone know the meaning or origin of the name Pontiel (or Ponteel)? It
was my uncle's "Jewish" name.

Joel Ackerman, Richmond, CA

researching: Ackerman, Hackmeister, Gakmajstera, Zimmerman, Tsimerman
(Ukraine, Volhynia), Greenstein, Grynsztyn, Issman (Galicia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine name question #ukraine

Joel Ackerman <jrsackerman@...>
 

Does anyone know the meaning or origin of the name Pontiel (or Ponteel)? It
was my uncle's "Jewish" name.

Joel Ackerman, Richmond, CA

researching: Ackerman, Hackmeister, Gakmajstera, Zimmerman, Tsimerman
(Ukraine, Volhynia), Greenstein, Grynsztyn, Issman (Galicia)


Cadastral Map for Strzylki, Galicia 1853 new on Gesher Galicia's Map Room #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

A new map has been added to Gesher Galicia's Map Room:

Strzylki Cadastral Map 1853

A full-color lithographed cadastral map of the village of Strzylki
(Strilky, Strelki, Strzylki), with the hamlet of Mlyny. By the time of
this survey, Strzylki was already a populated village stretching along
the Dniester River, with a large road connecting Stary Sambor to
Turka on the opposite shore - much as it is today. The map shows
only a single masonry building and no distinct town center, but a
large number of wooden buildings including a church at one end of
the residential area, plus a small nearby Catholic cemetery.
Buildings and land parcels are all clearly numbered; redline revisions
to building and parcel outlines indicate extensive changes in town
after the 1853 survey.

Direct link: http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/strzylki-strilky-1853/

The map room home page is here: http://maps.geshergalicia.org

Thanks for Jay Osborn, GG's cartography specialistl

Pamela Weisberger
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
http://www.geshergalicia.org


A question about an 1897 birth record entry recorded in the 1930s. #galicia

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Hi - Has anybody found a birth record for someone, under the surname
of the maternal grandmother's maiden name? Not simply the mother's
maiden name. I realize that this happens a lot. But I couldn't find anything
about my question, in this group's discussion archive.

The ViewMate request that I recently posted (see below), is a 1897 birth
record in Lviv, that was added at the back of the book, during the 1930s.
The mother's name there, is listed as Jente Dwore FRIEDMANN. No other
surname is listed. The child is listed simply with their first name, Chaim.
Someone told me that Polish writing, states that the child was illegitimate.

A woman that is on my family tree, is named Debora Jente. Her maiden
name was ZIPPER, and her mother's maiden name was FRIEDMAN. She had
5 children listed under her husband's name, starting in 1900. If Chaim
was her child, he would have been her first born. The combination of
first names of Jente and Devorah is fairly unique in the Lviv records. Thus,
someone has suggested to me that Chaim was also her son. But why
would he have been listed under his grandmother's maiden name? Could
it be due to the fact that he might have really been illegitimate? And
why would it have been added later?

Thanks for any input.

Mark London

On 9/9/2015, Mark London wrote:

I've posted a birth record in Polish (>from Lviv) is for which I need a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42112

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