Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general


I have not had a good experience with MyHeritage.

Main problems:

- Places. It wants modern names of places instead of the genealogically-correct name at the time of the event, and there are many, many, many places that it simply Will Not Take under any label that I've been able to come up with.

- Names. It insists that a married woman's surname is the same as her husband's, which is just Totally WRONG for my ancestors. I can turn this behavior off for myself, but that does not help with hints and other external material.

- Data presentation. It calls everything a "historical record" -- actual historical records, phone book compilations, user-contributed trees, miscellaneous online dreck: all of it is a historical record with default confidence "primary source".

- Paywalls. It tries to charge me money to access data from FamilySearch. This includes tree matches (a "primary source", donchaknow, see above) with profiles that I put on FS in the first place. I really don't know why nobody has sued them over this: how is it not blatant fraud to charge me money for freely-available material (which happens to be my own work)?

Offline, I use a glorified text editor to work directly with a GEDCOM file. This suits my brain, but is not what most people are looking for. There are lots of options, though, and many of them are free or have free versions ( (One important detail: last I checked, Legacy still hadn't implemented Unicode, so if you have ancestors from any place further east than England, you'll have trouble entering their names correctly in that program.)

The online free trees I have experience with are all collaborative: FamilySearch Family Tree, WikiTree, Geni. They are generally good places to work, as long as you're clear that it's not "your tree", and your work there should be supplemented with an offline file, as backup and as a repository for information about living relatives (which doesn't belong anywhere online, no matter how privatized).

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Re: Town name, Ukraine #ukraine #records

David Mason

The town name in Russian would be Kirovgrad.  In cursive script, lower case д looks exactly like our cursive g.

Dave Mason

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Beit HaTfutsot in Tel Aviv is another option
They collect digital genealogies in their Goldman genealogy section.
Louise Goldstein


Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Chana Bonn

In the case of Prefseizen versus Presseizen, the transcriber may not have realized that a double "s" can be written so that the first "s" looks like an "f".  Take a look at something like a reproduction of an older English document, for example, and the "s" is often written in a way that it looks like a modern letter "f".  Perhaps that is where the problem lies, and the name has always been Presseizen.

Chana Bonn

Re: Ancestry Promises Holocaust Records Will Be Free #announcements #holocaust

Josh Freeling

My personal opinion, regarding the USC Shoah testimony. I think it's great. My grandfather and his brother both recorded testimony, as did other family member's. I don't feel betrayed at all. Honestly all they have done was take what USC Shoah Foundation has on their site (indexed names, locations, etc) and transferred at no charge so they could be found Ancestry. It actually helped me find info I didn't find previously. I don't know if it's because of Ancestry, or perhaps I never searched previously on the USC Shoah Foundation site. As long as both parties are clear about what is going on and everything remains free, I personally do not have issue.

Josh Freeling

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Michael McTeer: FS has multiple parts. You're talking about the collaborative tree. I'm talking about the Genealogies section, which is an archive that anyone can look through but nobody can change, except that the original contributor can delete an uploaded file at any time (and/or upload a different one).

Geni and WikiTree are the other major players in the collaborative tree concept. They're no more suited to unchangeable archiving than FamilySearch's tree.

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verse on a tombstone in Kishinev #bessarabia #yiddish

Yefim Kogan

Here is a terrific verse I found on a tombstone of Olga Shraybman (in Kishinev Jewish Cemetery):

Dear Olga!
You are not dead.
With that beautiful soul, 
With that great love to people
You live among us for ever.

Only person who could write it in Kishinev was Ikhil Shraybman, and Olga was his dear wife.

I have also attached an image of the tombstone of famous Jewish writer Ikhil Shraybman  (Kishinev Jewish Cemetery).

His Yiddish is so wonderful,  I recommend to read his works even in translations.

On Ikhil's stone it is written in Yiddish and Russian:

I am not writing in Yiddish, 
Yiddish I Kiss..
Yiddish is my Great Happiness.

Yefim Kogan

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Christine Hills

I have had my tree on WikiTree since 2014 and find it excellent.  It is entirely free and is a worldwide collaborative tree. The profiles will never be deleted.  The only drawback I can see re. what you are looking for is that other people can edit your open profiles, that is those which relate to a person born over 100 years ago, unless that person is alive.  There is one profile for one person, so if people share an ancestor they share the profile.  However all entered data is saved, so you can find your own edit and reuse it. I have never had a problem with shared profiles, on the rare occasions someone has added anything it has always been helpful.  You might like to take a look at for more information.
Best wishes,
Christine Hills Dublin Ireland

Re: Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine, records #ukraine

Chuck Weinstein

There are no known records of births, deaths, or marriages.  There are voter lists in both the Khmelnitski and Vinnisia Archives, as well as several other record sets pertaining to the Jewish community.  Most surviving known records are now in the Khmelnitski Archives, having been removed from Kamanets-Podolski following a fire in 2004.  The status of some of those records is unclear.  

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, JewishGen Ukraine Research Division

Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

Karen Lukeman

I originally put my family tree on MyHeritage, but when I exceeded the number of entries, I created a family tree on Geni because it was free & unlimited AND so that I could link up with the World Family Tree. Subsequently, I was able to find two branches of my Israeli family on of which made me learn that my great-grandfather had remarried after my great-grandmother passed away so I have lots more cousins!!

I also have since subscribed to MyHeritage for full is a long term deal, so that the annual price was much better.  
Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)

Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Sally Bruckheimer

"JewishGen records do not exist in and of themselves, for no reason except documentation. JewishGen records exist to aid people searching for ancestral family, and as such, should, as far as possible, provide help to share knowledge which will allow other people finding records to make connections they might not otherwise have been able to make."

The records are what they are. We can not expect to 'fix' records more than 100 years ago.  I just found a record for Shayna Leah Ruslander Stolowski's death, as Shayna Leah Vertcikovski Stolowski. Rather than wanting to 'fix' this to what you expect, I find it a link to the origin of the Ruslanders, before they went to the Kingdom of Poland and were known as 'Russian'. Shayna Leah was born in 1835, about the time the family went to Polish Russia. What if somebody changed it, so I wouldn't have that information.

That reminds me of a woman in the LDS library where I worked, who had ordered Swedish birth records. She was surprised that they weren't in English!

If you want to share your knowledge with others, perhaps you should put your tree on FTJP, with the 'correct' information. Otherwise, everything will turn into Geni, where people can 'correct' other peoples trees with incorrect information.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: OLD FAMILY TREE #general


Before computers helped us organize our genealogical information, there were a variety of numbering systems. I have a couple of old articles in my files from those days. 

But, since we live in the age of information technology, I looked on the internet and found this Wikipedia article on genealogical numbering systems.  Perhaps it will help:

Note that there were many different methods.  You will have to figure out which one your tree uses.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Atlanta, GA

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


I will look into this. I have contributed to Yad Vashem but did not know they archived genealogies. Thank you. 

Reba Harris Solomon

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Thank you as I had not looked into Wikitree. Now at first look it seems to be a collaborative tree, like Genie and I’m looking more for a searchable archive that will remain intact. 

Reba Harris Solomon

Re: U.S. Appeals Court Rules Spanish Museum May Keep Nazi Looted Art #announcements #holocaust

Todd Warnick

It's like buying fenced properly. This is a scandalous decision. 

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


What is Wikitree?  I've come across once or twice but wasn't really sure what it is and how it works.

I am also interested in the question originally posted.  I've done so much research over the years and would hate for all of it to be lost after I'm gone.  I don't have children to pass it on to, but my cousins and (more likely) their children and grandchildren may be interested in the future.


Re: Shlomo Boruch Tennenbaum #slovakia #austria-czech #rabbinic


Hello, Mr.Moishe  Tannenbaum,                            27th August 2020

I wonder, may I politely ask,  did you read Dr Neil Rosenstein's  "  The Unbroken Chain --THIRD EDITION--chapter nine--page 722--725  ?

I wonder, if you are connected to the Tannebaum Family--from Szendro--my grandmother /Grunwald/Grunfeld was born there--or for that matter;Erdobenye, Putnok Tallya, Edeleny etc.we might have some joint ancestors around 1800?

Best wishes
Veronika-Mindle Malka - Pachtinger--London UK

Social History Ternopil 1870-1880s #galicia

Deborah HOLMAN

I am looking for some resources to help me understand what my great-grandfather's life as a young man might have been like in 1870-1880s Tarnopol. He was born in 1875 to Rachmiel LICHTENTHAL, a dealer of leather, and left Tarnopol around 1890 to make a living in the hat-making industry. He eventually settled in Vienna, Austria.  Due to COVID limiting access to libraries, I'd appreciate online resources.

Thank you,
Deborah Holman
Hamden, CT USA

Re: ViewMate - Hebrew handwriting interpretation request #belarus #yizkorbooks #holocaust

Dubin, David M. MD

A few things:
1- the image is upside-down
2- the black areas look like tape that covers many parts of names. A better image is needed.

Upper left section with image right-side up
Itzik                 Auschklar
?                     Politschuk
Buchlinich?     Gessek
?                     Duker

Upper left section
B__nstein        Lipik
Abrovitsch?      Gutman
Ken_nst_n        Schusterman
Milstein (three?)   Weissbrod

Lower right section
Sobetzky (maybe corresponds to Sawicki on your list)
(second column illegible to me)

Lower left section

Good luck

Re: legal name change in New York. #general


Why not check the city directories? Assume he changed it a year before the directory was printed.

8641 - 8660 of 657866