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Re: progrom warning #russia

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"I cannot imagine sending him across the world never to be seen or spoken with again. I conclude that her love for her son was greater than her self-interest."

Childhood, it has been said, is a product of 20th century USA. Our ancestors, as young people, were expected to do chores, work jobs, and take care of themselves. One of my ggrandmothers came to the US alone, at age 11, after her mother died and her father remarried. She was marked as '8 and under' on the passenger list, probably a lower price for kids.

And the story of the pogrom repeats. The first of my Russian family to emigrate killed a Cossack who was raping his sister, according to cousins of mine. It was 1867, right around the time of the rebellion / cholera epidemic / famine in Russian Poland.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Searching for information for Isaak Kirschner from Buczacz #galicia #austria-czech

Bruce Seide
 

From the information I’ve been able to compile, Isaak Kirschner was a Hatter in Galicia around 1891.  If I have the correct Isaak Kirschner his wife’s name was Broni Dresler.  They had a son (my grandfather) who immigrated to the United States in 1906 under the name Moses Dresler.  He subsequently changed his name to Morris Kirschner.  Family lore suggests he was an illegitimate son of Isaak and Broni.
Bruce Seide


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Re: GERSZONOWICZ or GIERSZONOWICZ families from the city of PIOTRKOW (Poland) between 1780 and 1880, from the city of Osjakow (Poland) between 1880 and 1905, from Lodz (Poland) after 1905 #poland #russia #lodz

karendesign@...
 

Hi Dom,
What I do know is at the time of the marriage of Riwka Ruchla GIERSZONOWICZ she was residing wiith her mother in Mar 1862 in Lodz, and her father, Schari (Zacharyasz) was already deceased.  Sura Gitla was born in 1833, so the father Shari must have been born at least 20 years before.  If it helps, this information is sourced from the LDS Film #809429, Akt. #10, Marriage and Death records 1826-1878, Gubernia, Piotrkow, Province Lodz. year 1862.  Do you have access to a LDS Library where these films are available near you?  It would seem these families are related in some way.  By the way one of my grandfather's sons name was Abraham or Abe after the name Abram., and of course the name of Riwka Ruchla.  Please let me know any information you might find.

Karen Brown
karendesign@...


Re: COHENS and GOLDBERGS from Sakiai, Lithuania #lithuania #unitedkingdom

Judy Bowman
 

Hi Angie, my family has deep roots in Sakiai, and then in the UK.  I believe we are connected to your Goldberg family.  My great grandmother was Esther Dvora Fellman.  Her parents were Shepsel Wolf Felman and Mera Ryvka "Miriam" Berkman(was Beniaminovich way back).   Miriam owned a tavern, and Shepsel Wolf (Shabtai Zvi) was very involved in the community: he was often a witness for Bris ceremonies and marriages.  Through my recent searches, I have been in touch with GOLDA ZEWI(from Turku, Finland), who has a picture of a big gathering of relatives/wedding:  her family are GOLDBERGs.  She would be great to get in touch with.  She has pictures and is a note from Shepsel to her ancestor Solomon Goldberg(Schlome Zwi "Salomon" 1878 Sakiai-1961 Turku, Finland.), "from your best cousin" in Yiddish.  We have not been able to figure out the Goldberg-Fellman connection, but we know they were cousins.  I'm happy to share my tree with you if you're interested.  I'm on Ancestry and MyHeritage.  (just did DNA on My Heritage).  Salomon's parents were Israel Reuven Goldberg and Chana Golde Bolshem.   

Warmly, Judy Bowman 
USA
Bowman/Baumgarten, Fellman, Rosenbaum, Halpern, Muskat, Berkman, Varshavsky/Warshavsky, Kopelman, Aschkenas 


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Shirley doesn't need any Hebrey equivalent today, as it is rather popular girls name in Israel.
means "song me".
Libbi, if you are interested, means "my heart".
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Oded
 

Shalom.
 
All the names suggested on the previous list are irrelevant.  
 
Clara - fem. personal name, from Latin Clara, fem. of clarus "bright, shining, clear" .
Other Derivatives : Claire, Clarisse, Clarice, Clarabel, Claribel.
 
In Hebrew:  Behira בהירה [uncommon].
Less accurate:  Levana לבנה [uncommon]. Means : white [fem.], also another name of the moon.
 
Oded Freilich


Re: progrom warning #russia

jbonline1111@...
 

My grandfather reportedly saw his sister raped and murdered during a pogrom when he was a small child.  They lived in Mogilev.  HIs mother did not want to leave home, but she allowed or sent him to emigrate to the USA in 1905 when he was about 12 years old.  His exact age was never known, partly because he lied about his age in order to gain entrance into the country.  I have a 12 year old grandson right now. I cannot imagine sending him across the world never to be seen or spoken with again. I conclude that her love for her son was greater than her self-interest.
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names

manderlie@...
 

I did not notice anyone mention that Eleanor is also shortened to Nell, Nellie etc as it is Helen and and Ellen. In Russian Eleonora.  Did you check the Census? Death notices of parents or brother Sam? They may list her and maybe her married name if you don't know it. If you do, search for her death notice and burial and headstone.  You can contact JGS Toronto for further help with cemetery information.

Sue Diamond


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 

Most Libby's are named after a woman named Libe ( love or beloved ) pronounced "LEE-beh. sometimes shown as Liba . It is also possible that it could be Leah/Leye , but that is less likely . 

Shirley is most often Sarah i.e Sore/Sure/Surke/Sorl/Surl etc. , but it could also be Sheyndl (SHEYN-dl ) from sheyn ( pretty or beautiful ) which also yields Sheyne /Shana/Shane/Shena  in English . Shifre ( SHIF-reh ) is also  possible.

As others have said , there are many possibilities,  but the most common are Libe and Sore/Sure etc. 
--
Henry H. Carrey


Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

JUROVSKY,Catherine
 

I am interested in the october Pogrom in Ekatarinoslav. Boris Bespaloff, the older brother of my grand mother aged 25 died in that pogrom. Is there any list/information on that particular pogrom. Thanks in advance
Catherine Jurovsky


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Robert Hanna
 

I had two great grandmothers whose names were written as Lebe.  One had a granddaughter named after her whose name was Libby.

Robert Hanna
NYC


Info on relatives in Israel #israel

relly800@...
 

I found Polish relatives who lived in Israel before WW2.  They appear on the IGRA index.  Looking for help finding the complete census entry and any other info info about them (when did they arrive in Israel, their relatives, when they dies/buried, address, anything).

Gudal Vaserstein son of Josef -

Rahel Vaserstein daughter of David (wife of Gudal) 

Avram Vaserstein son of Gudal

Rivka Vasershtein, daughter of Yehoshua (wife of Avram) 

  

Avraham Wasershtein, child of Pinhas, Voters 1925 Jerusalem, Tel Aviv

Brakha VasershteinVoters 1925 Jerusalem, Tel Aviv

Thanks 
Relly Coleman 


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Bruce Brown
 

Sura is one possibility for Shirley

Bruce Brown
Falls Church, VA


Re: Russian or Hebrew translation of birth record from Kishinev, and ? about dates #translation

Valentin Lupu
 

Hi Paul,
Both the document and your date converter are correct! The Russian Empire used the Julian Christian calendar until 1918 when the Gregorian calendar (used in most Western countries) was adopted. The Gregorian calendar is ahead by 13 days. If you translate  7 Adar II 5651 to Gregorian, the results is March 17, 1891. It corresponds to Julian March 4, 1891. The one day difference (March 5) is due to the day change in the Hebrew calendar at evening, not at 00 am.
The most known date confusion is the Russian revolution in 1917, called "the October Revolution", October 25, 1917,  led by Lenin. Since then, it was celebrated throughout the communist countries at November 7 each year.

Valentin Lupu
ISRAEL


Re: Family of DAVID BARNETT b 1831 & ANNA SAMUEL b 1837 Russian Poland #poland

walter@...
 

Wonder if anyone has come across this Family in their Researches , probably Married in 1854 in "Russian Poland" , had 11 Children between 1855 & 1864 , 8 of whom Died during that period ,all being Born in" Russian Poland", survivors being JACOB b 1855,ANNA b 1861,MOSES b 1864 ; emigrated to Sunderland England between 1864-1869 where their Son BARNET BARNETT was born. Family subsequently moved to Birmingham England and appear in 1871 Census under the Surname of DAVIS.
By Walter Scott.


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group re: KAMINSKY #russia

Dexter Moseley
 

Hi Rica

Hi  Rica

I saw your message Re Kaminsky (we also have a Romanian Moldova Goldberg side -see below

I thought thought on an off chance, if you have any family connections with the following names, Nathan and Sara Raisel Kaminsky originally from Grodno Gubernia  (located within the country, now  known as Belarus), who were my great grandparents  and  had five children, namely,  my grandmother Rae/Rachel (married name Goldberg), the others were Golda (married name Weinstein/Winston), Eva (Weisman), Louis and Sam (both of whom may have changed their last name to Kaye). 
The Kaminsky family left Russia in the early 1900s and they all made their homes in London. Please let me know if this rings any bells?!

Dexter Moseley, London


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group re: KAMINSKY #russia

Dexter Moseley
 

Hi Elizabeth

I saw your message Re Kaminsky ...I thought thought on an off chance, if you have any family connections with the following names, Nathan and Sara Raisel Kaminsky originally from Grodno Gubernia  (located within the country, now  known as Belarus), who were my great grandparents  and  had five children, namely,  my grandmother Rae/Rachel (married name Goldberg), the others were Golda (married name Weinstein/Winston), Eva (Weisman), Louis and Sam (both of whom may have changed their last name to Kaye). 
This Kaminsky family left what was then Russia in the early 1900s and they all made their homes in London, UK.. Please let me know if it rings any bells?!

Dexter Moseley
dextermoseley@...


Re: Russian or Hebrew translation of birth record from Kishinev, and ? about dates #translation

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Paul,
Russian Empire documents generally used the Julian Calendar. In the 19th century, this differed by 12 days from the Gregorian calendar that we are accustomed to. So 5-Mar-1891 (Julian) = 17-Mar-1891 (Gregorian) = 7-Adar2 5651.
See http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/
for a calculator that caters for Gregorian, Julian, Hebrew and other calendars.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Looking for Yiddish Translation #translation

JONES Etienne H.L.F.
 

Hello Henry !

Could you be so kind to give me a similar first comment about a text I didn't succeed until now to get a translation of, it dates from . . 1773 ? Very clearly I don't want a translation from you, only a short comment. And . . do you know a paid (serious) professional who would do it ? Thank you very much, I put the text in attachment.
Kind regards,

Etienne JONES
2930  Brasschaat (Antwerp), Belgium
Searching EM(B)DEN, HAMB(O)RO, JONES, PHILLIPS, JOHNSON? SIMPSON, ADAMS, BARLIN, ROBINSON, DANIEL(S),
VERNIMMEN, KIETZ, JACOBS, etc.
(Canada, Denmark, England, Germany, The Netherlands, United State of America)
 


Newspapers, Prussia #germany #poland

David Selig
 

HI all Jewish Genners. 
I am again looking for information on two family members, both from Prussia.

I wonder what newspaper ressources there may be, for newspaper announcements, for births, from 1900 or 1910?  
Or death notices (obituaries), from 1905 - 1920. 

I seek birth notices for : 
Lotte BLUMENTHAL, born 08.04.1900, Koenigsberg
Danny BLUMENTHAL, born 23.10.1910, K'berg

Death notice for Helene WOLFF, mother of one or both of the above
born 1862? Koenigsberg

Thanks for any hlep!
Best to all
David SELIG
Paris

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