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Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Diane Jacobs
 

You might try Mollie, Malka, Mali, etc.
Different names I have come across on my family tree.

Diane Jacobs



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From: Marcia Segal <joule@...>
Date: 9/13/20 9:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

The long discussion is because this is how threads unspool in a discussion. Nobody got injured, and people want to share.

One of my great-grandmothers was Chaia on the passenger list, and Clara in the US Federal censuses. Her daughter Chana became Annie. What I haven't figured out is what another great-grandmother's name may have been. On her grave marker it's Machli, but that's the masculine for of Machla. The only thing I can think of is that the final "ee" sound was a nickname of sorts, the way Loretta (as in Loretta Lynn) became Loretty to her family, and as above Chana became Annie but may have been Anna at some point.

Marcia Segal
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Oded
 

Was the subject:  The way our ancestors looked at the question [of names] ? - NO.
 
Someone asked for the equivalent Hebrew name for Clara. Other aspects are irrelevant to the question.
 
Bruria means 'chosen by God'' as if to say that God picked up that person.
 
Oded Freilich. 


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

binyaminkerman@...
 

I believe this comes down to a miscommunication about the original question.
If the intention is to identify the Hebrew/Yiddish name that was most likely given to an ancestor who's secular name is known then Oded's method is likely not going to be helpful. However if the intention is to understand the most accurate translation/equivalent of a secular name (for instance in order to give a child a modern Hebrew/Yiddish name in memory of someone who's secular name is known) then Oded is correct that most of the historically common names had little to do with the secular names they  were paired with besides often sharing a first sound.
Future questions like this would be clearer if the purpose of the inquiry is stated.
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


Re: Newspapers, Prussia #germany #poland

Robert Murowchick
 

There are a number of sites that provide access to archives of German newspapers. Here's one that is very good:
https://eudocs.lib.byu.edu/index.php/Historic_German_Newspapers_and_Journals_Online
Note that the holdings for any particular title are not necessarily complete, of course.
Bob M
--

Robert Murowchick    <robertmurowchick AT gmail.com>
Needham, MA

Researching these family links:
MUROWCHICK/MURAWCHICK/MURAWCZYK etc (David-Gorodok, Belarus, New Jersey, Chicago)
KUNECK/KONIK/KYONIK (Kozhan-Gorodok, Belarus)
EPSTEIN/EPSTINE (Gavish/Gavieze, Liepaja, Latvia)
SEGAL/SIEGEL (Tilsit, Koenigsburg, Germany; Baltimore; Chicago)


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Marcia Segal
 

The long discussion is because this is how threads unspool in a discussion. Nobody got injured, and people want to share.

One of my great-grandmothers was Chaia on the passenger list, and Clara in the US Federal censuses. Her daughter Chana became Annie. What I haven't figured out is what another great-grandmother's name may have been. On her grave marker it's Machli, but that's the masculine for of Machla. The only thing I can think of is that the final "ee" sound was a nickname of sorts, the way Loretta (as in Loretta Lynn) became Loretty to her family, and as above Chana became Annie but may have been Anna at some point.

Marcia Segal


Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

David Silvera
 

Reunion for the Macintosh. Easy to get started, prints great reports and charts. For more advanced usage can share data with other Macs and companion apps on the iPhone and iPad.

David Silvera


Re: Looking for Bihari from Budapest #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hi Robert,
     Can you give us a bit more to work with?  What were their parents' names?  About when were they born?  Were they all living in Budapest?  Were they married there?  What resources have you checked already (so we don't duplicate your work)? Do you have a family tree on-line that we could check?  What exactly are you trying to determine--are you trying to find specific relatives of your mother's family?  If so, do you know her siblings' or cousins' names?
     Thanks,

                 Judy Petersen
                 Fort Collins, CO, SUA


Re: Another finding among Bessarabia records - Service Form List #bessarabia #ukraine #records #translation

Jeffrey B. Palmer, MD
 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 04:11 PM, Yefim Kogan wrote:
Hello Researchers,

Does anyone read this initial message? 
It seems that I am writing, but I do not have any idea even if this message was read, or what our members think about such records.  Maybe we do not need such records?!

It is really puzzling me what really people are looking for.

I planned to write about at least two more recent findings, but now I am not sure.
I believe that we need your feed back. Without it, it is hard to continue.  It is not that we need to see that you like or not, but we need more details, of WHY you like or you do not.
It is not just about this message.   It would be great to hear from you about our Monthly reports, other postings...  and please post it right here, not personally to me.  Ask questions, give new ideas, suggestions...

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia Research Leader and Coordinator

 Yefim,
Your work on Bessarabia Research and your frequent posts to this group are enormously beneficial for me. I have limited access to information about my family in Edinet and the urrounding area where my family lived. The access you provide is as good as gold. I cannot thank you enough. I read your reports with great interest.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Jeffrey B Palmer
Researching PINKOWITZ (Bessarabia), HARFENIST (Galicia), DOCTOR (Bohemia), WEINSTEIN (Russia), SWERNOFSKY (Belarus), 
GELFAND (Ukraine)


Re: Family of DAVID BARNETT b 1831 & ANNA SAMUEL b 1837 Russian Poland #poland

Barry Clarke
 

I have not yet done any deep research on the BARNETT branch of my family (my grandmother was a Barnett). The first Barnett I am aware of who emigrated from Russia/Poland is JOSEPH BARNETT around 1822. On the 1841 and subsequent censuses, he and other BARNETTS were in South Wales. Certainly, in the 1900s some BARNETTS lived in Birmingham too. Names you give are names in my family too, but the dates and relationships don't match. I have an ESTHER DAVIS whose daughter LOUISA  married my second-great-grandfather HENRY BARNETT (JOSEPH BARNETT'S son). They had a son DAVID BARNETT and a BARNET BARNETT (aka BENNETT BARNETT), who seems to have died at 6 or 7 years old. Whether or not JOSEPH had siblings who emigrated to the UK, and perhaps not to Wales, I don't know. If yes, then there may be a family match. I will keep this thread on file for when I get around to researching the BARNETTS, and of course let you know if I discover a potential link.

I have a question for you or ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH BARNETTS ... Do you have any ideas as to the RUSSIAN/POLISH/HEBREW names BARNETT may have come from?

Thank you,

Barry Clarke
British, living in Sarasota
Researching  STEIGLITZ OR SIMILAR, SZKLARKIEWICZ OR SIMILAR that became CLARKE in London, Dublin, Liverpool, Bulawayo, Cape Town, maybe USA too, BARNETT in Wales, MYERS in Manchester and Cape Town, NEUMARK that became NEWMARK in London and USA, LEVINSON changed to BRAHAM in London. All families originally from Poland.




Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names

Shel
 

And ‘my’ Nettie was Gnesia….

Shel Bercovich,
CALGARY, AB, CANADA

BERCOVICI - Darabani, RO; GHERBIL - Darabani, RO; LIPKIND - Belarus; KLEBANOV - Belarus; ZWANG - Ukraine; ECHTER - Ukraine;


Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Simon Kreindler
 

I use REUNION, a program specifically for Mac that I have had for 20+ years and find it does everything I need. The company also offers great support.

Simon Kreinder


Shoshana and Theresia #israel

Peter Heilbrunn
 

Hi,

My aunt Theresia Rosmarin nee Feldmann was born in Vienna. She lived and died in Haifa having reached Palestine in 1933.  There is however no death record in her name. I have however found a headstone with the name Shoshana Rosmarin. Could Shoshana be a Hebrew equivalent? 

Also she married sometime between 1933 and 1946. How might I discover a marriage record?

Thanks for your help.

Peter Heilbrunn


Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

Shlomo Gurevich
 

I am not sure that telephone books were published in Ekaterinoslav in yearly 1900s. For example, even the big 1913' All Ekaterinoslav book contains lists of businesses, governmental offices and homeowners with their addresses but without phone numbers.  Only some rare advertisements contain them. But maybe the following information can be helpful for you: 
 
The following pharmacies in Ekaterinoslav are listed in 1903' Ekaterinoslav Gubernia Memory Book:

1. Sartioson heirs' (The Avenue)
2. Pharmacist Oswald's (The Avenue)
3. Pharmacist Gurvich's and its subsidiary (Voyennaya Str.) 
4. Pharmacist Stephanovich's (Alexandrovskaya Str.)
5. Ekaterinoslav Medical Society's (Torgovaya Str.)
6. Pharmacist Bystritzky's (The Avenue) and its subsidiary (Peterburgskaya Str.)
7. Pharmacist Peck-Fon Ammenshild (Pervozvannovskaya Str.)
8. Pharmacist Weinstein (The Avenue)
9. Pharmacist Lemberg's Homeopathic Pharmacy (Sadovaya Str.)

Shlomo Gurevich,
Hoshaya, Israel

http://shl2gur.tripod.com


Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Claire Bruell
 

I have used Reunion since 1995 and love it,

Claire Bruell
Auckland
New Zealand
researching
BRIESS, BRUELL, SCHIMMERLING, BERGER, LOEWY, HOFFMAN, Moravia and Vienna
ROSENBLUM, JURMANN, WOLFTHAL, KITTENPLON, DANKBERG, Buczacz, Borshov, Galicia


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Shirley Holton
 

My name is Shirley after my ggmother Tzirl. The late great Prof Gerry Esterson told me it was a diminutive either of Sara or Tsipporah. 

Shirley Holton
London, England

MANKUNSKI, SHOCHET Simnas Lithuania, AJMINSKI Szczuczyn in Lomza Poland


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Oded
 

Jane Foss,
None of the names you have mentioned is Clara.
What Sara or Chana has to do with Clara? 
 
To all.
Why such a long discussion about such a simple question: What is the equivalent Hebrew name for Clara? 
 
Oded Freilich


Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

kassells@...
 

The grand mother of my father in law was named Clara and her Jewish name was Keila, which has 18 hits in David Rosen's list.
Oded Freilich's suggested methodology is certainly not the way our ancestors looked at the question  

My wife was named Claire after her great grandmother. However her Hebrew name is Sarah, being born on Shabbat "Chayei Sarah". In her youth though she looked for a Hebrew equivalent as Oded did. She found Bruria, which a special name from a Talmudic heroine. 
Best regards   
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet  Israel 


YIVO Jewish Immigration to America Online Exhibit #announcements #photographs

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

  

 

 

YIVO has extensive immigration collections: rich sources of information about the experiences of some of the over 2.5 million Jews from Eastern Europe who immigrated to America from 1881-1924, Jewish refugees who sought refuge from Hitler in the 1930s-40s, and later waves of Jewish immigrants.

 

Every one of those immigrants has a unique story. And every piece of paper, every photograph in YIVO’s immigration and migration collections is a gateway to those stories.


To view these remarkable photographs go to:

https://immigrationusa.yivo.org/exhibits/show/immigrationstories/1870s1920s

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Question about keeping old newspaper clippings #records

erikagottfried53@...
 

I agree with Harvey, but I'd make it stronger:  If you value these clippings you definitely ought to print out the scans in addition to keeping the digital copies.  Preserving these items with through digital files alone requires relying on a technology that is, as of now, still fickle and fragile.  Print copies are another backup.

Print out the clippings on acid and lignin-free paper.  If you use good-quality toner and keep the printouts in acid and lignin -free folders in acid free boxes, and away from light they can last for up to 100 years. If you can afford pigment-based ink or toner (depending on whether you have a laser or ink jet printer) the printouts will be more stable and last even longer.  None of this is cheap, of course, but it's not impossibly expensive, either.  But if you want to be certain to preserve these items, I counsel this belt and suspenders approach.  Also extremely important is that you make certain either that the newspaper title and date and page number of the story are visible in each of the scans (it's not good enough to include this information in the file name -- it needs to be actually visible as part of the scan itself), or if you didn't do that at the time of scanning, if you have this information write that it on the back of each printout of a clipping -- in pencil, not pen (unless the ink in the pen is acid-free).   If I seem a little fanatical about this, I am, based on more than 25 years as a visual materials archivist.   

If you follow the protocols above you can discard the original crumbling clippings in good conscience, although you might want to retain a few of them to have a sample of the flavor of the original object (in which case, store them in clear polyester or polyproplylene sleeves -- these are acid-free and since they are transparent you can see the items immediately).

Good for you for taking the trouble and time to scan these clippings, and for asking how to take care of them properly.

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Marc Friedman
 

My great grandmother left Hamburg as Liebe, and US census records , and family notes, have her name as Libby.

Marc Friedman
Irvine CA

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