Re: New York City 1940's Street a View Old City Tax Photos
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#general
#photographs
#usa
Jx. Gx.
Subj: New York City 1940's Street a View Old City Tax Photos
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Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups
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Sherri Bobish
Alan, Have you found any naturalization papers for this family? What are the names (as you know them) of the original immigrants? Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Kudos Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups
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Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
Google “hamburg lists”.
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Barbara Stern Mannlein Tucson, AZ
On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:01 AM, eej787@... wrote:
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Indexing URLs
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YaleZuss@...
I have noticed over the months I've read this blog that contributors have mentioned a great many sites that offer particular kinds of data. It seems to me that it would be really helpful to collect these sites and index them for what they contain and the country/region/locale they cover so researchers could consult the list for their needs.
By any chance has someone been compiling such a list, and if so, where can people find it?
Yale Zussman
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Re: Ancestry Promises Holocaust Records Will Be Free
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Paul Silverstone
The Arolsen records as found at the US Holocaust Museum contain some surprising information unrelated to Germany.
I found passenger lists of Jews traveling from Shanghai to Israel after the war. Paul Silverstone
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I first would like to thank Miriam Bulwar David-Hay for her detailed commentary
on the problems relating to errata in databases.
I also want to use this opportunity to clarify the original subject line on this thread.
There are some databases that can be searched via JewishGen that are made
available by independent organizations among. This includes, Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland.org).
Therefore the original subject line on this thread might have been more accurately
titled as it now appears above. That is, "How to correct information in databases
displayed on JewishGen."
Miriam has shared some very important observations from her experience. That is:
"indexers are SUPPOSED to transcribe them exactly as they are written.
If there is an obvious error or discrepancy in a record" and that "many
indexers will add a note about it."
Over the years, JRI-Poland has discovered a multitude of errors/conflicts that can
creep into records such as - but certainly not limited to:
1. Names data entered from index pages vary from the actual record.
These are corrected as JRI-Poland supplements the original index as part of
the Phase 3 initiative to fully extract vital records. This article, in part, describes
both the Phase 3 initiative and other aspects of JRI-Poland activity).
2. Records (Akt numbers and associated names) missing from index pages.
3. Surnames spelled differently in some records and are not sound alike matches.
Example: FRYMAN and FRYDMAN. This may be an error but in other cases,
an indication that a family used both names or simply the responsible registrar
varied the name for unknown reasons. We do not change the name but we
make an appropriate notation in the record entry.
4. Typographical errors (Information incorrectly data entered by volunteers or
professionals).
While making individual corrections to our online data currently requires removing
and replacing the entire file from our database, this will be changing under the
Next Generation website and data management system. ("NextGen" was the
subject of the JRI-Poland presentation at the IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy held virtually earlier this month.) At that time, single corrections
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
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Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me
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RichardWerbin
Rebba Solomon,
At this time, Ancestry.com does not require a subscription to have a family tree. To access the tree, a person need to have a login. Their guest login option is free. I set up a tree in this fashion for a friend who does not have any ancestry subscription. She can login and edit the tree. They also have good privacy settings. But, if you use those, people will need an explicit invitation from you to access the tree. They do require a subscription for data search. Richard Werbin
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Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me
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RichardWerbin
David Mason,
DVDs are not a long term option. Today most laptops & desktops no longer include a DVD / CD reader. It is considered to be an obsolete options and is no longer supported. Richard Werbin
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Encyclopaedia Judaica - 1920 Berlin Version - Entry research
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Yaron Wolfsthal
Dear Group,
The first edition of the Encyclopaedia Judaica was published in Berlin (late 1920, in German). As a part of my family roots research, I'd appreciate help retrieving a particular entry in that edition. If a subscriber of this mailing list happens to have this version of the Judaica, I'd appreciate a private response so I can specify my help request. Thanks in advance - yaron.wolfsthal@...
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Etymology of surname INGEROSE from Zhitomer
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MarkWeinberg18@...
A relative from Zhitomer had the surname INGEROSE. I have been trying to determine its etymology. It is not listed in Beider’s compendium “A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from the Russian Empire”. There is a listing for a similar sounding name INGEROV, where “Inger” means “young” and “ov” means “son of”. Another possibility is that it is a compound word made from “Inger” and “roze”, where “roze” means the rose flower. Note that Beider concludes that the use of words like “roze” in Russian Empire names is not derived from a woman’s name. I also could not find in Beider an example of “roze” being used as an ending in a compound word. Can anyone shed light on this issue? Thank you very much. MarkWeinberg18@...> Wilmington DE
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Janis and Joe Datz
My husband's grandparents lived in Kopaigorod (yet often some of their records indicate Beltz). The family names are LEVOVICH and DATZ. Many thanks.
Janis Datz
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Re: Ancestry Promises Holocaust Records Will Be Free
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#holocaust
itencorinne@...
Hi
I often receive messages from people who found lists of the Arolsen Archives on ancestry and don't understand what this lists are. Some people even don't realize that this lists come from the Arolsen Archives and they don't know what the Arolsen Archives are. So I would recommend to search directly on the Database of the Arolsen Archives (mentioned above) rather than on ancestry. Because there is for each collection a description which kind of document it is, when, where, by whom and for which purpose it was written. I found out that the lists of South Germany, made by the Americans after the war, not only contain Jewish people and forced labourers, who were persecuted before and during the war and after the war called Displaced Persons, but also other people from foreign countries (with foreign nationality) who lived in South Germany during and after the war, but were not persecuted. If you search the Database of the Arolsen Archives a window pops up which says, that all data is confident and for personal use only. If something remains unclear there is the possibility to ask questions to the archivists of the Arolsen Archives. I found some evident information about Jewish and non-Jewish people related to my family on the Arolsen Archives. It actually helped me to find documents and information I didn't imagine that it could be held by the Arolsen Archives. Regards Corinne Iten
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Re: Family Tree Recommendations
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Sarah L Meyer
I like Legacy Family tree. It is important to me to keep my tree on my computer. The paid version ($35) offers cloud backup, it also has many more capabilities than the free version, but you can start with the free version and upgrade later without losing any data. The family view screen, and colors are customizable.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me
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Sarah L Meyer
I also want my trees to outlive me, both my Jewish one or ones and my husband's non-Jewish ones. I am planning on at least one book for his tree and possibly one for mine. I do however have my own website - and the wayback machine should archive it. I do pay for hosting, but a google search will turn up free hosting. My site uses TNG and that is a one time charge for the software that is installed on the server. Another option is to do a free trial of Ancestry.com and upload your trees there. They will not be changed.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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Part 2 of how I discovered the whereabouts of cousins thought to have perished in the Holocaust
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Michael Moritz
Last week, I shared how I was able to discover through genealogical research that two of my grandmother's first cousins who she believed died in the Holocaust actually survived and lived out their lives in Europe, unbeknownst to her. This week's installment describes how I discovered the experiences of these two brothers during the war, in France and England, and after the war, in those countries and in Prague, capping off a 6-country research endeavor to locate the whereabouts of these two brothers. Thank you for all of the great feedback and comments! https://moritzresearch.blogspot.com/2020/08/they-survived-war-but-how-part-2-of-how.html.
Best, Michael Moritz (info@...) New York
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Re: Marienthal...what is it?
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David Barrett
There is such a place 30 km+ SW of Vienna, which was a focus of a social study in the early 1930s
David Barrett
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#ukraine
#yizkorbooks
Bruce Drake
In early April, the prisoners of Buchenwald could hear the distant sound of artillery from General George Patton's advancing Third U.S. Army, At about 2 p.m. on April 11, American tanks appeared in the beech forest after which the camp had been named. There was gunfire. Most of Buchenwald’s 5,000 SS guards had already fled. By then, thousands of the prisoners had been forced to evacuate by the SS by foot and train to prevent their rescue. Patton was so disgusted by what he found that he ordered the mayor of Weimar to bring 1,000 citizens to Buchenwald to ensure that the German people would take responsibility for Nazi crimes, instead of dismissing them as propaganda. “Remembrances of a Survivor,” from the Yizkor book of Belki, Ukraine recounts in first person the days leading up to the liberation, the flight of the Nazis, the reactions of American soldiers to what they saw when they entered the barracks, and how the inmates, spared from death, responded to their liberation: “They gathered to pray, to cry and to say Kaddish for their dear ones. In spite of all, they somehow found the strength to overcome their grief and anger, and rose above everything.” Bruce Drake Silver Spring MD
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Kudos Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups
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Edward Just
Kudos on your research. I wish it is successful.
I wrote to Hamburg re: my father's departure in 1923 but I got an odd answer . Where did you find the Hamburg lists - online? Ed Just eej787@...
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Re: ViewMate Translation Request - Russian
#poland
#translation
ryabinkym@...
VM85114
In Rusian:
Замбров #73
Состоялось в посаде Замбров, 15-го (27) июля 1894-го года, в 11 часов утра, явился лично еврей Арон Файбович Рожанович, сапожник, 32 лет, живущий в посаде Замбров в присутствии свидетелей Нахмана Граница, 32 лет и Гершка-Мотыль Бурштын, 36 лет, оба учителя жители посада Замбров и предявили нам младенца мужского пола, объявляя, что он родился в посаде Замбров 8-го (20-го) июля сего года в 6 часа вечера от законной жены Ени-Мириам, двух имен, урожденной Ябко, 29 лет. Младенцу сему при обрезании дано имя Шимко-Файвель. Акт сей составлен и присутствующим прочитан и подписан, кроме объявляющих себя безграмотными.
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Zambrov
# 73
Held in Posad Zambrov, on July 15 (27), 1894, at 11 am, a Jew Aron Faibovich Rozhanovich, a shoemaker, 32 years old, who lives in Posad Zambrov in the presence of witnesses Nakhman Granits, 32 years old, and Gershka-Motyl appeared in person Burshtyn, 36 years old, both teachers are residents of the Zambrov Posad and presented us with a male baby, announcing that he was born in the Zambrov Posad on July 8 (20) of this year at 6 pm from the lawful wife of Yeni-Miriam, two names, nee Yabko, 29 years old. This child was given the name Shimko-Faivel during circumcision. This act was drawn up and those present read and signed, except for those who declare themselves illiterate.
Signature Signature Civil Status Official Signature
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Re: ViewMate Translation Request - Russian
#poland
#translation
ryabinkym@...
VM85113
In Russian:
Замбров #106
Состоялось в посаде Замбров, 9-го (21) декабря 1894-го года, в 11 часов утра, явился лично еврей Арон Файбович Рожанович, сапожник, 32 лет, живущий в посаде Замбров в присутствии свидетелей Нахмана Граница, 32 лет и Гершка-Мотыль Бурштын, 36 лет, оба учителя жители посада Замбров и предявили нам младенца мужского пола, объявляя, что он родился в посаде Замбров 2-го (14-го) декабря сего года в 2 часа дня от законной жены Ени-Мириам, двух имен, урожденной Ябко, 28 лет. Младенцу сему при обрезании дано имя Маркель-Лейба. Акт сей составлен и присутствующим прочитан и подписан, кроме объявляющих себя безграмотными.
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Translate into English:
Zambrov
# 106
Held in posad Zambrov, on December 9 (21), 1894, at 11 o'clock in the morning, a Jew Aron Faibovich Rozhanovich, a shoemaker, 32 years old, who lives in posad Zambrov in the presence of witnesses Nachman Granits, 32 years old, and Gershka-Motyl Burshtyn, 36 years old, both teachers are residents of the Zambrov Posad and presented us with a male baby, announcing that he was born in the Zambrov Posad on December 2 (14) of this year at 2 pm from the lawful wife of Yeni-Miriam, two names, nee Yabko, 28 years old. This child was given the name Markel-Leiba during circumcision. This act was drawn up and those present read and signed, except for those who declare themselves illiterate.
Signature Signature
Civil Status Official Signature
Lust name of Yeni-Miriam is Yabko. On my first translation it was Yabno. It is much clear writing on the VM85113
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