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(US)Congressional Bills to Cease Fee-Based Services From USCIS and Instead Require Congressional Fees #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Legislation has been introduced in the United States Congress by Senator
Ted Cruz (R-TX) SB 1593
(https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s1593/BILLS-114s1593is.pdf) and by
Representative Brian Babin (R-TX) HR 2825
(https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr2825/BILLS-114hr2825ih.pdf) which
would remove the fee-charging ability of the Department of Homeland Security
and instead authorize Congress to impose fees for the various departments
within the Department. The Congressionally-imposed fees would be placed in
the general fund and it would be up to Congress to make the necessary
appropriations for the Department to operate. The reason this is of interest
for genealogists it that the United States Citizenship and Immigration
Service (USCIS) is part of the Homeland Security Department and the USCIS
has a fee-for-service genealogy program. This includes section "J" which
establishes genealogy fees for research and information services (see page
20). The two bills have been referred to committees in their respective
chambers but no hearings have yet been scheduled. Current information on
how to apply for genealogical information >from the USCIS may be found at:
http://www.uscis.gov/genealogy\

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US)Congressional Bills to Cease Fee-Based Services From USCIS and Instead Require Congressional Fees #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Legislation has been introduced in the United States Congress by Senator
Ted Cruz (R-TX) SB 1593
(https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s1593/BILLS-114s1593is.pdf) and by
Representative Brian Babin (R-TX) HR 2825
(https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr2825/BILLS-114hr2825ih.pdf) which
would remove the fee-charging ability of the Department of Homeland Security
and instead authorize Congress to impose fees for the various departments
within the Department. The Congressionally-imposed fees would be placed in
the general fund and it would be up to Congress to make the necessary
appropriations for the Department to operate. The reason this is of interest
for genealogists it that the United States Citizenship and Immigration
Service (USCIS) is part of the Homeland Security Department and the USCIS
has a fee-for-service genealogy program. This includes section "J" which
establishes genealogy fees for research and information services (see page
20). The two bills have been referred to committees in their respective
chambers but no hearings have yet been scheduled. Current information on
how to apply for genealogical information >from the USCIS may be found at:
http://www.uscis.gov/genealogy\

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Need help with identification of photos on Viewmate #general

Olivier Neuman
 

Hi,
I posted two photos on the folowing viewmates :

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM40934

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM40935


Could someone help me to recognize the persons on those photos or help
me to find the best way to discover something concerning them?

thank you

Olivier Neuman (id:458743)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately or by using the viewmate response form


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help with identification of photos on Viewmate #general

Olivier Neuman
 

Hi,
I posted two photos on the folowing viewmates :

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM40934

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM40935


Could someone help me to recognize the persons on those photos or help
me to find the best way to discover something concerning them?

thank you

Olivier Neuman (id:458743)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately or by using the viewmate response form


Re: Locating number of naturalization Petition #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Sandy Crystall posted:
I have a volume and page number (and date) for a naturalization petition and I need
the petition number to order a copy of the document >from NARA (online).

The original record source is New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition
Index (an index to naturalization petition cards originally compiled by the New
York County Supreme Court). The person is Joseph Flomen, 57 E. 102 St., NY, NY;
Date: 18 Nov 1919,volume 296, page # 26.


Well Sandy, i think someone gave you the wrong info. If its New York County
Supreme Court then NARA doesnt have the petitions. They are at 31 chambers st, in
the County Clerk/Old Records division on the 7th floor. You don't need the
petition number.

Because things change, i would verify the following suggestion: call the Manhattan
County Clerk's office at 646-386 5395. Find out if you can still order the petition
(by volume and page#) >from the NY County Clerk at 60 Center St, Room 161, NY,
10001 for a $10 money order.

Even better, it is online!
I first queried the familysearch.org website; it returned the film number 001522394
for the index (not very useful). Next i went to the sub-database, the New York
County Naturalization Records, and clicked on browse, scrolled down to New York
County, and chased the volume and page number. And indeed it is there!!! Go to NY
Petitions volume 296; its image #65. Its not the petition, but the declaration,
but the data is the same. Granted this is not an easy research task, but one
we cover in detail in our New York genealogy course.

happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, nyc & palm beach gardens fla
vp, education, JewishGen.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Locating number of naturalization Petition #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Sandy Crystall posted:
I have a volume and page number (and date) for a naturalization petition and I need
the petition number to order a copy of the document >from NARA (online).

The original record source is New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition
Index (an index to naturalization petition cards originally compiled by the New
York County Supreme Court). The person is Joseph Flomen, 57 E. 102 St., NY, NY;
Date: 18 Nov 1919,volume 296, page # 26.


Well Sandy, i think someone gave you the wrong info. If its New York County
Supreme Court then NARA doesnt have the petitions. They are at 31 chambers st, in
the County Clerk/Old Records division on the 7th floor. You don't need the
petition number.

Because things change, i would verify the following suggestion: call the Manhattan
County Clerk's office at 646-386 5395. Find out if you can still order the petition
(by volume and page#) >from the NY County Clerk at 60 Center St, Room 161, NY,
10001 for a $10 money order.

Even better, it is online!
I first queried the familysearch.org website; it returned the film number 001522394
for the index (not very useful). Next i went to the sub-database, the New York
County Naturalization Records, and clicked on browse, scrolled down to New York
County, and chased the volume and page number. And indeed it is there!!! Go to NY
Petitions volume 296; its image #65. Its not the petition, but the declaration,
but the data is the same. Granted this is not an easy research task, but one
we cover in detail in our New York genealogy course.

happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, nyc & palm beach gardens fla
vp, education, JewishGen.org


Mersky/Mirsky researchers #general

Anne Kenison
 

I recently became aware of a Fanny Aguroff Mersky, daughter of Shmuilo Ogure (the
surnames are spelled many ways) >from Samokhvalovichi, Belarus. Several researchers
on geni.com and myheritage have Fanny in their trees.

My maternal gggf was a Shmuilo Ogure, also of Samokhvalovichi. My ggf was his son
Movshe. Based on dates, the surnames and the small size of the shtetl, I am
convinced that there is a connection. I know that Movshe had a sister Feige, and I
wonder if she became Fanny.

I have been unable to reach most of the profile managers, so I am hoping that
someone reading this recognizes the names. If you do, please contact me privately.

I am also researching the following names in the same general area, including Minsk
and Haradok: SHAPIRO, KAGANOVICH, SHEPSENWOHL, OGUR, and others.

Thank you.

Anne Kenison


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mersky/Mirsky researchers #general

Anne Kenison
 

I recently became aware of a Fanny Aguroff Mersky, daughter of Shmuilo Ogure (the
surnames are spelled many ways) >from Samokhvalovichi, Belarus. Several researchers
on geni.com and myheritage have Fanny in their trees.

My maternal gggf was a Shmuilo Ogure, also of Samokhvalovichi. My ggf was his son
Movshe. Based on dates, the surnames and the small size of the shtetl, I am
convinced that there is a connection. I know that Movshe had a sister Feige, and I
wonder if she became Fanny.

I have been unable to reach most of the profile managers, so I am hoping that
someone reading this recognizes the names. If you do, please contact me privately.

I am also researching the following names in the same general area, including Minsk
and Haradok: SHAPIRO, KAGANOVICH, SHEPSENWOHL, OGUR, and others.

Thank you.

Anne Kenison


WW I Registration #general

Sarina Roffe
 

I have a WW I Registration in which the card lists Installment as the
occupation. What does that mean?

Sarina Roffe
sarinaroffe@aol.com
Brooklyn, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WW I Registration #general

Sarina Roffe
 

I have a WW I Registration in which the card lists Installment as the
occupation. What does that mean?

Sarina Roffe
sarinaroffe@aol.com
Brooklyn, NY


Re: Locating number of naturalization petition? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sandy Crysall is looking for the naturalization record of Joseph Flomen. She cites
volume 296, on page 26, done November 18, 1919, in New York County Supreme Court,
and says she needs the petition number to get the document >from NARA. The volume
and page number are >from the New York County Supreme Court Naturatlization
Petition Index.

Wait a minute, Sandy - NARA doesn't have this document. NARA branches are the
archives for naturalizations done only in *federal* court.(In New York City, the
NARA branch has documents archived >from the Southern and Eastern Districts of New
York.)But New York County Supreme Court is a *state* court, not a federal court.
Their archived documents are in big ledger books in the Old Records Division, on
the 7th floor of 31 Chambers Street in Manhattan. (I don't think they're on line.)
The books are easy to find once you walk into the room, on shelves, but you have to
bring a camera because some of the ledgers are flimsy and falling apart, so they
no longer allow them to be placed on copy machines.

Although NARA doesn't have a copy, the INS, or now the USCIS does, but that process
costs about $55 and takes several months. They'll sometimes have additional
documents that weren't saved in the original file, but I think that the originals
are the way to start

Perhaps somebody who's visiting the Division of Old Records can photograph the
docments Sandy wants?(My day job prevents me >from going there more than once a year
or so, and I can't be there soon).

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Locating number of naturalization petition? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sandy Crysall is looking for the naturalization record of Joseph Flomen. She cites
volume 296, on page 26, done November 18, 1919, in New York County Supreme Court,
and says she needs the petition number to get the document >from NARA. The volume
and page number are >from the New York County Supreme Court Naturatlization
Petition Index.

Wait a minute, Sandy - NARA doesn't have this document. NARA branches are the
archives for naturalizations done only in *federal* court.(In New York City, the
NARA branch has documents archived >from the Southern and Eastern Districts of New
York.)But New York County Supreme Court is a *state* court, not a federal court.
Their archived documents are in big ledger books in the Old Records Division, on
the 7th floor of 31 Chambers Street in Manhattan. (I don't think they're on line.)
The books are easy to find once you walk into the room, on shelves, but you have to
bring a camera because some of the ledgers are flimsy and falling apart, so they
no longer allow them to be placed on copy machines.

Although NARA doesn't have a copy, the INS, or now the USCIS does, but that process
costs about $55 and takes several months. They'll sometimes have additional
documents that weren't saved in the original file, but I think that the originals
are the way to start

Perhaps somebody who's visiting the Division of Old Records can photograph the
docments Sandy wants?(My day job prevents me >from going there more than once a year
or so, and I can't be there soon).

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


UPDATE: Bershad, Chechelnik, Camenca, Myastkovka, Obodovka, Olgopol, Rashkov, Zagnitkov, Zhabokrich - 1875 Revision List Translation Project #ukraine

Paul Finelt
 

Dear Genners,

UPDATE: No PAGES TRANSLATED
EXPLANATION: NO TRANSLATOR(S)
REMEDY: YOUR ASSISTANCE

Did you know there was a translation project 'in work' for these towns
in the Ol'gopol Uzed?

If not, please consider a look here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/projectdesc/DB_Olgopol.html
and here:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Olgopol/
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bershad/

We NEED:
1. TRANSLATORS !!!

This project will not move forward without qualified translators.
We have over 3000 pages to translate.

Thank you in advance for considering our project.

Perhaps my next update will be : PAGES TRANSLATED

Best Regards,

Paul Finelt
Town Leader - Ol'gopol / Bershad
Project Co-Leader - Olgopol District Document Translation


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine UPDATE: Bershad, Chechelnik, Camenca, Myastkovka, Obodovka, Olgopol, Rashkov, Zagnitkov, Zhabokrich - 1875 Revision List Translation Project #ukraine

Paul Finelt
 

Dear Genners,

UPDATE: No PAGES TRANSLATED
EXPLANATION: NO TRANSLATOR(S)
REMEDY: YOUR ASSISTANCE

Did you know there was a translation project 'in work' for these towns
in the Ol'gopol Uzed?

If not, please consider a look here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/projectdesc/DB_Olgopol.html
and here:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Olgopol/
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Bershad/

We NEED:
1. TRANSLATORS !!!

This project will not move forward without qualified translators.
We have over 3000 pages to translate.

Thank you in advance for considering our project.

Perhaps my next update will be : PAGES TRANSLATED

Best Regards,

Paul Finelt
Town Leader - Ol'gopol / Bershad
Project Co-Leader - Olgopol District Document Translation


Re: Kherson Research #ukraine

Phyllis Kramer
 

Phil posted:
I am currently searching information about family members who hail
from Kherson, Ukraine. It proves difficult to find and gain access to
reliable sources without speaking either Russian or Ukrainian. What be
your recommendation to request documents such as birth, marriage and
death certificates (civil offices, national archives, synagogues) ?

Phil, you havent stated where you have looked and what you've found.

Did you use RTRFoundation.org to discover what resources are available
for the city, and in what archives? for what years? Are you sure that
the records you are searching for exist?
if you havent looked, go to rtrfoundation.org
and make a list of the records you'd like to research.

Have you looked on familysearch.org's catalog to see if there are any
pertinent microfilms?
if not, try https://familysearch.org/catalog-search

Have you looked on jewishgen's list of researchers to see if any are
recommended for your area? there are a few >from ukraine; these folks
would be the best for you to contact, if you want to hire a
professional researcher and you know exactly what you want them to do.
if you haven't tried them go to
www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/researchers.htm


and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
vp education, jewishgen


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine re: Kherson Research #ukraine

Phyllis Kramer
 

Phil posted:
I am currently searching information about family members who hail
from Kherson, Ukraine. It proves difficult to find and gain access to
reliable sources without speaking either Russian or Ukrainian. What be
your recommendation to request documents such as birth, marriage and
death certificates (civil offices, national archives, synagogues) ?

Phil, you havent stated where you have looked and what you've found.

Did you use RTRFoundation.org to discover what resources are available
for the city, and in what archives? for what years? Are you sure that
the records you are searching for exist?
if you havent looked, go to rtrfoundation.org
and make a list of the records you'd like to research.

Have you looked on familysearch.org's catalog to see if there are any
pertinent microfilms?
if not, try https://familysearch.org/catalog-search

Have you looked on jewishgen's list of researchers to see if any are
recommended for your area? there are a few >from ukraine; these folks
would be the best for you to contact, if you want to hire a
professional researcher and you know exactly what you want them to do.
if you haven't tried them go to
www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/researchers.htm


and happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, NYC & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
vp education, jewishgen


Mezhirich and the Zhytomyr and Rivne Archives #ukraine

ivygar@...
 

Dear All,

My grandfather was born in Mezhirich (now known as Mezhirichi) in the
Rovno area. My grandfather's father's surname was Nissenholtz and his
mother's maiden name was Rosendorn. I would like to continue researching
my grandfather's family and I feel that I won't find any more
information about his grandparents or his ancestors in Mezhirich >from
the records and places I've found up to now.

I understand that there are Jewish records for Mezhirich in the Zhytomyr
and Rivne Archives. They are listed on Miriam Weiner's database and they
include:

- census: 1816-1827;1834;1841-1856;1858-1882 - Rivne Archives, 1865;1874
- Zhytomyr Archives
- holocaust: 1943-1944 - Rivne Archives
- Jewish workers: 1879 (LIST OF PEOPLE WHO PAID FINES IN VIOLATION OF
TRADE/INDUSTRY REGULATIONS)1910 (REGISTER OF TRADES AND INDUSTRY);1913
(REGISTER OF TRADES AND INDUSTRY) - Zhytomyr Archives
- Jewish council: 1912 (CONFISCATION/SALE OF HOUSE RE AVOIDING
CONSCRIPTION INTO THE ARMY) - Zhytomyr Archives
- voter lists: 1935;1938 - Rivne Archives

I would love to be able to access the records in the Zhytomyr and
Rivne archives to see if there is any information about the Nissenholtz
family and the Rosendorn family. I have started a group on Facebook for
Descendants of the Jewish Community of Mezhirichi
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419424225036363/). Several of the
members of the group are looking for information about their families
from Mezhirich. They also would also appreciate being able to access
any information about Mezhirich >from the archives.
Does anyone know, is anyone working now to translate the records >from
the Zhytomyr and Rivne Archives?

Thank you,

Ivy Dennett-Thorpe


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Mezhirich and the Zhytomyr and Rivne Archives #ukraine

ivygar@...
 

Dear All,

My grandfather was born in Mezhirich (now known as Mezhirichi) in the
Rovno area. My grandfather's father's surname was Nissenholtz and his
mother's maiden name was Rosendorn. I would like to continue researching
my grandfather's family and I feel that I won't find any more
information about his grandparents or his ancestors in Mezhirich >from
the records and places I've found up to now.

I understand that there are Jewish records for Mezhirich in the Zhytomyr
and Rivne Archives. They are listed on Miriam Weiner's database and they
include:

- census: 1816-1827;1834;1841-1856;1858-1882 - Rivne Archives, 1865;1874
- Zhytomyr Archives
- holocaust: 1943-1944 - Rivne Archives
- Jewish workers: 1879 (LIST OF PEOPLE WHO PAID FINES IN VIOLATION OF
TRADE/INDUSTRY REGULATIONS)1910 (REGISTER OF TRADES AND INDUSTRY);1913
(REGISTER OF TRADES AND INDUSTRY) - Zhytomyr Archives
- Jewish council: 1912 (CONFISCATION/SALE OF HOUSE RE AVOIDING
CONSCRIPTION INTO THE ARMY) - Zhytomyr Archives
- voter lists: 1935;1938 - Rivne Archives

I would love to be able to access the records in the Zhytomyr and
Rivne archives to see if there is any information about the Nissenholtz
family and the Rosendorn family. I have started a group on Facebook for
Descendants of the Jewish Community of Mezhirichi
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419424225036363/). Several of the
members of the group are looking for information about their families
from Mezhirich. They also would also appreciate being able to access
any information about Mezhirich >from the archives.
Does anyone know, is anyone working now to translate the records >from
the Zhytomyr and Rivne Archives?

Thank you,

Ivy Dennett-Thorpe


note from Barbara Hershey! #romania

Rosanne Leeson
 

To all Rom-SIGgers!

Barbara Hershey has been unable to post a note to the list on JewishGen,
as apparently she is unable to post in Plain text >from her IPad. She
has asked me to give her email address to all who received her first
message (also posted by me) without her email address.

So, if you are going to be in Jerusalem and wish to contact her to
assist, here are email addresses for you to use:

<barbara.hershey@comcast.net> her regular address, or
<Barbara@romsig.org>

Rosanne Leeson


Romania SIG #Romania note from Barbara Hershey! #romania

Rosanne Leeson
 

To all Rom-SIGgers!

Barbara Hershey has been unable to post a note to the list on JewishGen,
as apparently she is unable to post in Plain text >from her IPad. She
has asked me to give her email address to all who received her first
message (also posted by me) without her email address.

So, if you are going to be in Jerusalem and wish to contact her to
assist, here are email addresses for you to use:

<barbara.hershey@comcast.net> her regular address, or
<Barbara@romsig.org>

Rosanne Leeson

88761 - 88780 of 658846