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Re: Bialystok Patronymics #names

Mark Halpern
 

Hi Rene:

Aron Jankel is Mordchel's father. Gersz is Freida Dwora's father. 

When JRI-Poland first started the indexing in Bialystok, we had the indexer just provide names and patronymics. Later on, we asked for the father's and mother's names as well as any other names mentioned in the record. Somewhere in the future, we will update the short form index to the more fully extracted entry. For now, we have plenty of work indexing 1906-1919 births and 1906-1939 marriages and deaths. The last two years of each are not yet available for indexing, but are beyond the privacy law's embargo period.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Bialystok Area Coordinator

On 2020-04-24 9:02 am, Rene Eisner wrote:

I would like some help in understanding the Patronymics in this marriage record from Bialystok 1892.

SZEJN, Mordchel Aronowicz Jankelewicz  married WAJNER Freida Dwora Gerszowna.

Do the two names show the father and grandfather, of Mordchel?

Is Freida the daughter of Dwora, and daughter of Gerszow? Or is it Freida Dwora, daughter of Gerszow?

 Thank you in advance,  Rene Eisner  Melbourne, Vic, Australia.

 

 

 


Re: Viewmate Translation Request: Polish #poland #translation

Judy Silverman
 

This is a repost with the correct language identifier.  The single responder to date kindly confirmed that the documents are in Polish but did not offer any translation.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM80478

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM80479


Thank you for any assistance.

Judy Zimmerman Silverman


Re: Bialystok Patronymics #names

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Not sure about the man’s name, but
his bride was Freida Dwora daughter of Gerszown Wainer   (We would say: Frieda Dvora d/o Gershon Wainer)
 
Barbara Mannlein,  Tucson, Arizona  <bsmannlein@...>

On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Rene Eisner <rene.eisner@...> wrote:
#names
I would like some help in understanding the Patronymics in this marriage record from Bialystok 1892.
SZEJN, Mordchel Aronowicz Jankelewicz  married WAJNER Freida Dwora Gerszowna.
Do the two names show the father and grandfather, of Mordchel?
Is Freida the daughter of Dwora, and daughter of Gerszow? Or is it Freida Dwora, daughter of Gerszow?

 

Thank you in advance,  Rene Eisner  Melbourne, Vic, Australia.  <rene.eisner@...>


Re: Where can I get a blank family tree chart ? #general

John Paul Lowens
 

Joanne Grosman,  <joannegrosman@...> asked "Is there a chart I could download, so I could accurately visualize the connections. At this point it is quite elaborate all the names and how they fit in with my core families I am researching. =============>

(at the free LDS / Mormon Familysearch.org website)
Under "FamilySearch Site Map" you will find the links below.  To download the charts, you'll have to
 log in or create an account with a user name and password for the free FamilySearch site.

John Lowens, New York    jgsli.treasurer@...


Re: {Where can I get a blank] Family Tree Chart? #general

David Oseas
 

The Cousin Chart on FamilySearch may be helpful to you:  https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/cousin-chart/

Regards,   David Oseas   <doseas@...>


Refugee travel documents #ukraine #romania #germany #russia #galicia

BSR352
 

Good morning, 

Sometime around 1920, my great grandparents Moishe and Basia Sherman, paid to be smuggled across the border from Ukraine to Romania. In Bucharest (the story goes), they received help from HIAS, who assisted in organizing a position for Moishe in Lipton, Canada, while his wife took their son to Germany for a special medical treatment before she joined them. 

In all the Passenger Declarations, Ship Manifests, and Border Crossing records, from Europe to Canada, and eventually to the US, the family wrote that they were Romainiam Nationals , born in Zastavna, Romania (actually, they were from Vinnytsia, Ukraine). We even found a Declaration of Intent when Basia applied for US citizenship, in which she disavows loyalty to the Romanian monarchy. 

Is there a way to find details of old travel documents used by passengers?

What about databases of refugees (and the documents that they were issued in order to travel and settle down)? 

I read an article from 1922 Bucharest in which Romania is accused of trying to expel all refugees, so I imagine the country wasn't so keen on issuing citizenship to the 1000s of homeless. 

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Re: Understanding a notice published in "Deutscher Reichsanzeige" #germany #translation

Norma Klein
 

As far as I know a so called Community of Goods was and still is standard practice in german marriages, which simply means both partners share what has been property of each partner before the marriage as well as everything they might accquire during the marriage. Therefore I assume they had to publicly announce if they intended to do otherwise.

Regards
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peter.wollinski@...  asked about a published notice in Germany:
Translation into English:   “Wongrowltz. Notice.
The trader Wolf Hirsch Wolinski initially from Gollantsch and his wife Pauline, née Elias, for their marriage, excluded the community of both property and acquisition by contract of November 17, 1879. Registered on 2 December 1879 on 3 December 1879.”

Does anyone know what this notice means and if it was a requirement to place such a notice in this newspaper?


Re: Does anyone recognize this town name? #russia

Alexander Sharon
 

Hi,

Please refer to https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/About.htm for clarification on Jewish communities definition

Why isn't my town in the JewishGen Communities Database?

The “JewishGen Communities Database” is a database of Jewish communities — places that had a synagogue, or a Jewish cemetery, etc.
It is not a database of all places where Jews have lived.
Smaller places appear only in the “JewishGen Gazetteer”.

The JewishGen Communities Database is primarily a database of JewishGen resources: Yizkor Book translations, KehilaLinks sites, JOWBR cemetery indexes, JGFF database entries, etc.
If your ancestral town does not appear in the Communities Database, we ask:

  • Have you created a KehilaLinks site for this town?
  • Have you translated a Yizkor Book or portion of a Yizkor Book (or a chapter from an encyclopedic work such as Pinkas HaKehillot) about your town?
  • Have you indexed this town's Jewish cemetery, or a landsmanshaft cemetery plot for this town, for JOWBR?

 

If you feel that your ancestral town should be included in the JewishGen Communities Database, please contact Warren Blatt.

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>


Re: #germany - Understanding a notice published in "Deutscher Reichsanzeige" #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

Wongrowitz. Bekanntmachung.
Der Handelsmann Wolf Hirsch Wolinski zun Gollantsch und
dessen Ehefrau Pauline, geb. Elias,haben für ihre Ehe die
Gemeinschast sowohl desVermögens als des Erwerbes durch
Vertrag vom17. November 1879 ausge\chlossen. Eingetragen
zu-folge Verfügung vom 2, Dezember 1879 am 3. De-zember 1879.
The marriage contract regulates the financial situation. The
assets brought in by the husband and wife are considered
independently. The property acquired in the marriage is
attributed to either the husband or wife.

The agreement may have tax and/or inheritance reasons.

Ernst-Peter (Winter)


Database of Rabbinical Certificates from 1921 Bucharest? #romania #rabbinic

BSR352
 

Looking for a copy of a Rabbinical Certificate issued in Bucharest 1921 or 1922, and signed by a Rabbi Tsirelson (the Chief Rabbi at the time).
I tried writing to the Jewish Museum in Bucharest, and to what I thought might be the Chief Rabbi's office, but I have not heard back. 

Any ideas? 
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Re: Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

Stephen Katz
 

Information on the IKG for Tirol and Voralberg can be found at their website: www.ikg-innsbruck.at/

Here is their contact information:

Address:
Israelitische Kultusgemeinde für Tirol und Vorarlberg
Sillgasse 15
A-6020 Innsbruck
Austria

Contact:
Phone / Fax:  +43.512.586892
Cellular phone:  (in case of urgency) +43.650.5868921
E-Mail: office@...

Stephen Katz
KATZ (Novograd-Volynsk and Rovno, Ukraine), TEPPER (Novograd-Volynsk and Rovno, Ukraine), KAPLAN (Stakliskes, Lithuania), VITKIN (Kaunas, Lithuania), KABACHNIK (Butrimonys, Lithuania).


Looking for descendants of Sam SCHECHERS #usa

Deborah Stoloff
 

Sam is my maternal great grandfather, born late 1880s. Father, Judah. Mother, Eva Richwell. Married my ggm Celia Sage (shortened from Zegerman/Segerman) for about a year til my grandmother Rebecca was born (she changed her name to Ruth as a young adult.) Marriage was in Chelsea, Mass. Then he disappeared. Family lore mentions Canada. Have subgroup of DNA relatives that may or may not be descendants. Anyone have Sam in their tree? Would love to make those connections, particularly as my mother Harriet  (Sam's granddaughter, age 88 soon) is alive.    Thank you.

Deborah   deb02762@...

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Great Grandparents journey from Odessa #general

sojacobs@...
 

I am looking for clarity on the journey of my maternal great grandparents....Anna Gibrich Rosenfeld and Morris Rosenfeld from Odessa.  The only passenger data that nearly matches their dates of birth (1866-Morris, 1867-Anna) from Russia puts them on separate ships 4 years apart, at ages 22-Morris from Liverpool and 21-Anna:  Her ship name was Werra From Bremen, Germany and Southhampton, England.  I dont know for sure if they were married in Ukraine, but I cannot find a passage under Annas maiden name—Gibrich.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much.


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks

Bruce Drake
 

“Black clouds never carry good omens, especially not for us Jews.”

So ends “A Hot Summer Day Before the Storm,” a chapter from the Yizkor book of Rachov-Annapol, Poland. The scene it paints is that of the town’s Jews heading for the cool waters of the Wisla River on summer days “when the sun whitened the basalt paving of the road and scorched the soil of the fields, and the heat in the small huts left no air for breathing.” Parents and children paddled in the water, and even elderly Jews stood in it up to their beards. But on the banks, men brooded about the ominous signs in Germany where Hitler’s enmity for the Jews was becoming clear among other threats, and a cloud came over this day of pleasure in more ways than one.

 

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2985140071508128?__tn__=K-R

 

Bruce Drake

Silver Spring, MD


Bialystok Patronymics #names

Rene Eisner
 

#names

I would like some help in understanding the Patronymics in this marriage record from Bialystok 1892.

SZEJN, Mordchel Aronowicz Jankelewicz  married WAJNER Freida Dwora Gerszowna.

Do the two names show the father and grandfather, of Mordchel?

Is Freida the daughter of Dwora, and daughter of Gerszow? Or is it Freida Dwora, daughter of Gerszow?

 

Thank you in advance,

Rene Eisner

Melbourne, Vic, Australia.

 

 

 


Search help MARX, GANZ, VOGEL Family #general

royer-mars@...
 

Hello this is my first posting to the forum. I hope not to make a mistake
My father Adolf Walter Marx, born in 1923 in Duisburg, was the only survivor from his family at the end of the war.
His father Richard MARX born in Bad Kreuznach on 12/23/1893 died in Auschwitz (07/1942).
His mother Elly VOGEL MARX born in Worms on 4/4 1899 died in Auschwitz (07/1942)
His only sister Hilde MARX born in Duisburg on 9/9/1924 died in Auschwitz (07/1942)
Her grandmother Flora KOCH VOGEL born on 2/11/1870 in Framersheim died in Auschwitz (03/1943)
Her grandmother Regina Ida GANZ born 18/12/1866 in Mainz died in Theresienstadt (03/1943)
My father died in 1989, when research was not as easy as it is today. He had no photographs or documents relating to his family.
Thanks to our numerous family searches, we were very fortunate to find in the Russian archives transferred to France the photograph of my grandparents Richard and Elly
https://www.geni.com/people/Eleonora-Elly-Marx-Vogel/6000000040836774969
https://www.geni.com/people/Richard-Marx/6000000040836697147
Today, I still hope to find a photograph of Regina Ida Ganz
https://www.geni.com/people/Regina-Marx/6000000085079269815
Fora Vogel
https://www.geni.com/people/Flora-Vogel/6000000040835935173
Hilda Marx
https://www.geni.com/people/Hilde-Marx/6000000040836664286
But also of Léo Marx, died on 12/21/1939 in Bad Kreuznach, most certainly the owner of an identity card reserved for Germans identified as Jewish.
https://www.geni.com/people/Leo-Marx/6000000045928229830
I have already contacted and received help from these various organizations: Arolzen Archives / Deutsches Rotes Kreuz / Zentralarchiv / Yadvashem / USHMM / Archives Nationales Françaises.
Anyone have other leads to help me progress in my research?
Thanks a lot for your help
Yann Mars


Bonjour
Mon père Adolf  Walter Marx, né en 1923 à Duisbourg, était à la fin de la guerre, l’unique survivant de sa famille.
Son père Richard MARX né à Bad Kreuznach le 23/12/1893 est mort à Auschwitz (07/1942).
Sa mère Elly VOGEL MARX née à Worms le 4/4 1899 est morte à Auschwitz (07/1942)
Son unique sœur Hilde MARX née à Duisburg le 13/9/1924 est morte à Auschwitz (07/1942)
Sa grand-mère Flora KOCH VOGEL née le 2/11/1870 à Framersheim est morte à Auschwitz (03/1943)
Sa grand-mère Regina Ida GANZ née le 18/12/1866 à Mayence est morte à Theresienstadt (03/1943)
Mon père est décédé en 1989, à une époque où les moyens de recherches n’étaient pas ceux d’aujourd’hui. Il ne possédait aucune photographie ou document concernant sa famille.
Grace à nos nombreuses recherches familiales, nous avons eu le très grand bonheur de retrouver dans les archives russes transférées en France la photographie de mes grands-parents Richard et Elly
https://www.geni.com/people/Eleonora-Elly-Marx-Vogel/6000000040836774969
https://www.geni.com/people/Richard-Marx/6000000040836697147
Aujourd’hui, j’ai encore l’espoir de trouver une photographie de Regina Ida Ganz
https://www.geni.com/people/Regina-Marx/6000000085079269815
de Fora Vogel
https://www.geni.com/people/Flora-Vogel/6000000040835935173
de Hilda Marx
https://www.geni.com/people/Hilde-Marx/6000000040836664286
Mais aussi de Léo Marx, mort le 21/12/1939 à Bad Kreuznach, très certainement possesseur d’une carte d’identité réservées aux allemands recensés comme juif.
https://www.geni.com/people/Leo-Marx/6000000045928229830
J’ai déjà contacté et reçu l’aide de ses différents organismes : Arolzen Archives/ Deutsches Rotes Kreuz / Zentralarchiv / Yadvashem / USHMM /Archives Nationales Françaises.
Quelqu’un aurait-il d’autres pistes pour m’aider à progresser dans ma recherche ?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide
Yann Mars


{Where can I get a blank] Family Tree Chart? #general

joannegrosman joannegrosman
 

Hello,
I distant relative subscribes to Geni and recently I have gotten more and more notices of perfect matches with all details about that relative and their connection to me. Often it is something like 'third cousin once removed' etc. Is there a chart I could download, so I could accurately visualize the connections. At this point it is quite elaborate all the names and how they fit in with my core families I am researching.

regards,  Joanne Grosman,  <joannegrosman@...>  researching Grosman,Bocian, Kremsdorf, Czestochowa/Radomsko


searching for Nora Banner #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I have lost contact with Nora. She lives in Bradention Fla. We shared a trip to Israel and a room at some conf.
I miss her. IF you know her or her family. Please contact me. Thank you. Gayle


Who knows Katharina STEIN, wife of Peter SCHULTGEN? #germany

p.personn@...
 

I am looking for any information about the grandmother of my grandmother: Katharina Stein. She was married to Peter Schultgen. One of their sons was Stefan Schultgen, my great grandfather, who was born in 1905 in Thür, Germany. Stefan later lived in Weißenthurm. 

There was a big Jewish community in this region. But so far my research had no results.

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Re: Does anyone recognize this town name? #russia

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

Risikivtgst - rosolowce - Rasolovitz cerainly appears to be Rosołowce in Volhynia Gubernia near Kuzmin at 4947 2701
However, being curious, I went to the Communities database in Jewishgen.  Why isn't it there? 
--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski
near Philadelphia, USA
Researching: Zuchman in Sarnaki, Karczew, Warsaw Poland
Reznik in Drohiczyn nad Bugiem, Siemiatische, Siedlce Poland
Rifczes in Lemberg, Vienna  
Kopekin in Polatsk,& Besonkovich in Belarus
Familiant & Koifman in Bessarabia and Ukraine
Sondak in Vitebsk, Belarus and Rehitza, Latvia
Aginsky and Slonimsky in Minsk 
Aronofsky in Belarus & Lithuania