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Trying to locate family for a "foundling" found in Russia in 1942 #russia #dna #holocaust #photographs

Barbara L. Kornblau
 

Fellow Jewishgeners,

I am trying to help find family for a now adult child who was found abandoned in Russia in 1942. His nephew contacted me.

"My name is Alex, I live in Danville, California, my email poloziouk@...


I’m trying to help my uncle Gennady to find his relatives.

My uncle was separated from his family in 1942 when when he was approximately 3 years old. 

The official document provided by the orphanage states that he was found in 1942 sitting on the bench at Belinskogo street 72, Tomsk city, USSR (now Russia), well dressed wearing wool costume, blue coat, mittens, hat and green garnet scarf." He described to me that his clothes were thought to be very formal for a young child, and like nothing no one had ever seen in a child that young. The rest of the story:

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Tomsk city was far from WWII front and was used as evacuation hub, many factories from western parts of USSR were moved to Tomks at that time. There's high chance that he was on one of those evacuation trains and most likely something happened to his parents while they were on the train (trains were regularly bombed by Nazis) or he was separated from them somehow.

He was found sitting on the bench in the park which is about 1.5mi from Tomsk train station.


Gennady does not know his real name and was looking for his family all these years.

He lives in Moscow, Russia.


I helped him to do 23andme DNA testing.


Gennady’s photos https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iJmQoTQuaNuySoKtPSCS4MaucIWCTaHz/view?usp=sharing


Here’s link to a relatives list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_dF9s7TgRmUtZyJq9LU04MM9147T5RQ0DRDlAwMblCc/edit?usp=sharing


If you think you can help, please feel free to contact his nephew, Alex, whose email is above or contact me and I can contact Alex. Thanks

Barbara L. Kornblau
BarbaraLK@...


Re: Father and son with same given name. #general

Steven
 

I want to thank everyone for their answers and opinions on this topic. I guess i should’ve been more specific in the initial post.

Meyer MNUSHKIN was born in Bobroisk in 1903. The birth record listed his father as Meyer MNUSHKIN. His Hebrew name off his headstone is Meyer ben Meyer. In this case I can only assume the father passed before the son was born and the son was named after him.

The other instance isn’t as clear. I found the marriage record for Dawid Ptakewicz from Plonsk, Poland from 1851 on JRI Poland. It listed his age at 32 and his father as Dawid. That is the only info I have about his father.

Thank you,
Steve Buzil

researching:
BUZILA and KILYAN from present day Moldova
GRUBER and FEINGOLD from present day Ukraine
SEIDLER/ZEIDLER, GROSSBARD, BERLIN, WICZYNSKY, PTAKEWICZ, GOODMAN, DOBROSZKA and BROWN/BRAUN from present day Poland.
PORTNOY, GERSHON and OFSAIOF/OVSAIOVICH from present day Lithuania
MNUSHKIN and KOLVARACHIK from present day Belarus
EISENSTEIN and ZALIO from present day Romania


Records in the Lithuanian database #lithuania

Terry Ashton
 

I was wondering if there are detailed B/D/M records available in the Lithuanian database, in the same way as can be found on JRI Poland?  For example, when a record is found through JRI Poland, and placed on VewMate for translation, there are often quite a few details such as time, place, date, witness names, names of newborn child etc. which can be extracted for the researcher. The information on any Lithuanian records I have found in the past, seem to be much sparser than JRI Poland records. Was less information given to/recorded by authorities in Lithuania in earlier times?

Thank you,

Terry Ashton, Australia

PRASHKER: Kalisz/SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza/WAJNGOT: Poland/WIERZBOWICZ: Gorki, Lomza/GOLDMAN: Blaszki, Poland/SEGAL/SEGALOVICH: Vilnius/HOLTZ: Dvinsk

 

 


Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general

Lawrence Weintraub
 

My grandfather Samuel was an immigrant from Russia (modern Ukraine) to Massachusetts. I was directed to a theoretical great grandfather, also Samuel, which I was dismissive of for the obvious reason.  It turns out that when they arrived here,  they became Samuel but they had different Hebrew names so there can be exceptions.
 
Lawrence Weintraub
Old Bridge, NJ 
 


Re: FTJP-Family Tree of the Jewish People #general #courland

Nicole Heymans
 

I uploaded a GedCom update to FTJP in July 2019 and the online data hasn't yet been updated. I understood priority was migrating the website to NextGeneration, so I hope data presently in the queue should appear online in the not-too-distant future.

My mother was Jewish, my father not, so I only post my maternal line to FTJP. I posted all my ancestry to FTDNA and GedMatch when I tested several years ago, and need to refresh these as FTDNA now accepts all-included (up and down) family trees, and I think GedMatch also.

I also have a family tree on MyHeritage, including my husband's family, however as this exceeds 2500 individuals, hence a cost of over €200 pa, I need to check how ceasement of payment would affect availability of the tree if "anything happens to me".

I would not recommend Geni. There are issues with soundness of data. I have never used Geni, so someone else welcome to chime in. I understand entire branches of A's tree can be imported into B's tree without any checks on soundness of data. And unsound data propagates at least as fast on genealogical websites as conspiracy theories on social media. (For the same reason: an answer to a brickwall).

Hope this helps, keep safe,

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

 


Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

suelaine@...
 

Hi: Our names are Sue and Andrew Laine. My husband has a line of Dutch Jews who immigrated to London in the late 19th century. When their cigar business declined, they moved to Brighton, Sussex. The family has spread throughout Sussex and also moved up to Yorkshire. The name of the patriarch was Moses Morris Goldsmith/Mozes Morris Goudsmit (1847-1930). His wife's name was Margaretha  (Kitty) Breslau (1849-1932). They immigrated from Amsterdam to London and then moved to Brighton. Their daughter, Hannah Fanny Goldsmith (1888-1942) married Charles Hallett (a gentile. 1888-1974). They mostly lived in the Brighton area until their senior years. These were Andrew's grandparents. They moved up to Kirkburton, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, to live with their daughter, Lillian Mary Hallett Laine, until their death. Lillian was Andrew's mother. She married Leslie Laine in 1934 and died in 2015. 
Andrew's brother, David, went to Amsterdam to do family research around 2005 and came back with a family line that goes back to the early 1500's. He recognized over 300 family names on the Holocaust Memorial Wall in Amsterdam, many of them dying in Auschwitz. In our research we have found second cousins who died there; many times entire families were lost. We have been trying to add to this line which is our direct line, but are struggling with the European records. I do much of the research now as Andrew has Parkinson's Disease. 
We would like to learn how to use the European records to fill in and extend our line. Working in the same areas and the same time periods with other researchers would help us.. It sounds like forming a group would put us in contact with researchers of similar interests. Please keep us informed as to the progress of this group. Let us know what we can do to help. Thank you.   Sue and Andrew Laine


Re: Searching for my father's family in #galicia #poland

Barbara Algaze
 

You will find lots of information about researching in Berlin from the Jewish Gen Kehila link web page at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/berlin/Home.html

 

Barbara Algaze

Los Angeles, California

 


Double Surname in Belarus Revision List #belarus #general

Steven Usdansky
 

Looking through the Belarus Revision Lists for Siniensky, I was able to find a listing for my great-great grandfather, Feivel (Fayvush in the listing) and his family from dated July, 1874, in Lyubcha. Looks like my great-grandfather and at least one of his sisters were a few years older than they claimed upon entry to the US.  

What's confusing me is the double surnames on the Revision List; the family surname is showing up as "Shliomovich Sinensky." This is the first time I've encountered Shliomovich as part of the surname. It looks like a patronymic, but according to the list, Feivel's father was Iosel, not Shliomo. No father's name is shown for Feivel's wife, Itka. My first thought was perhaps Shliomo was Iosel's father; my second thought was perhaps it was Itka's surname name. However, I'm just guessing with nothing to go on, and thought perhaps someone here might have experience with such names and could advise.


Emden, Lower Saxony #germany

Frank Bond
 

Does anyone know if the following book includes Jewish families?

Bartels, K. (2008). Familienbuch Emden (Landkreis Börde) 1684 bis 1800. Leipzig, Germany: Arbeitsgemeinschaft für mitteldeutsche Familienforschung.

Thank you.
Toby
United States


Re: Early 1900s records from Rosario, Argentina #latinamerica

Barbara Ellman
 

Most people emigrating to South America in the late 19th century & early 20th century did so through the Baron de Hirsch JCA organization to settle in agricultural communities.  The records for these communities are located at the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.  

The files may include the contract signed for the land.  The JCA did census updates on these communities.  These showed when the arrived, often with the ship name.  Names were added showing births, marriages and the disappearance would indicate the death.

Unfortunately,  the archives will not do look ups for you.  There are finding aids on the archives website searchable by surname.  

Barbara Ellman 
Secaucus, NJ USA
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Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: Czechoslovakian Jews #belarus

Daniela Torsh
 

Look at the marriage certificate for your grandmother. It ought to have his name and possibly other information that could help.


Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

bwonder@...
 

Thanks Linda. I am a descendant of the Dutch Lam and Klok families who I have information on back to the mid 17th century. So I too am onyetested in your proposal.

Bernard Wonder (Australia)


Re: a question about the ages of young men on entering the US from Germany #general

Barbara Ellman
 

Families often reported their children who could pass as being younger than 10 so the fare paid was a child’s.

My grandmother’s case was one of these.  She continued using the age on entry for her entire life.  Until I discovered her birth record in Ukraine!

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus, NJ USA
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Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Steven Lowenstein Historian of German Judaism passed away May 31 #germany

Ralph Baer
 

Steven Lowenstein, historian of German Judaism and the German Jewish immigrant community of Washington Heights in Manhattan, passed away on May 31. https://jewishjournal.com/judaism/obituaries/316707/obituary-steven-lowenstein-1945-2020/ and https://forward.com/news/obituaries/447873/remembering-steven-m-lowenstein-prominent-jewish-historian/

I met Steve the first time I went to the Leo Baeck Institute in late 1977 or early 1978. He was an archivist there at the time. We have exchanged e-mails sporadically ever since. A matter of fact, the reason that I found out that he passed away is that an e-mail bounced. When he asked me at the LBI what towns I was researching, I mentioned Memmelsdorf in Unterfranken. He then asked, what families? I responded "Gunzenhäuser". He then asked if I knew Anne (originally Anneliese) Sachsendorfer nee Gunzenhäuser, his aunt. I said, sure, she is my mother's cousin. I was in the same HIgh School class as Steve's younger brother, but it took a few minutes to draw the connection.

Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC


Polish estate near Bela Tserkva PRITZKER FAMILY #ukraine

Susan Miller
 

  1. I would appreciate any help in finding the Polish estate on which my relatives lived from approximately 1875 to 1905. We think it was called Stepanivka. It was near Bela Tserkva, Ukraine. My male relative, David, was the overseer of the sugar beet plantation and factory. When he died (1886) his sons took over. The Polish count who owned the estate offered to help David’s widow (Rose) open a small store on the estate. The count's daughter, Alexandria, was friendly with Rose’s young daughter who was on many summer days invited to spend time at the manor house with Alexandria. We think it may be the Branicki family, but we can’t find the specific Branicki who owned the estate in c. 1886 and who had a daughter named Alexandria.
    Thankful for any assistance in verifying the location of the estate and the name of the Polish count that owned it.
    Susan Miller
    Philadelphia, PA

 


Re: Headstone translation help - Hebrew #translation

Dr.Josef ASH
 

H(ere) L(ies)
our dear mother
Sima Perlsweig
d. on 7 of tevet 1939
Let her soul ...

Josef ASH, Israel


Re: jews in hiding in freezone France #france #holocaust

Joe Ross
 

If you live in France, visit the Holocaust memorial in Paris. They have a research library there. My family also lived in Nice for part of the war.


Re: DORRA Family Descendants , Egypt/Syria #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

I would love to reply privately if I could find Peter's email address. Can you provide it because I may have some answers to his inquiry.

Jacob Rosen

Jerusalem

abuwasta@...


Re: Father and son with same given name.i have xome across #belarus #poland #general

kdspiro@...
 

I always wondered why my father - Harold, had the virtually the same name as his grandfather - Harry, who was alive when my father was born. When I did eventually ask him about it he replied emphatically NO! they didn't have the same name at all! His grandfather was Chaim and he was Herschel (which was news to me as never had I heard him called Herschel)! He then explained another thing I had always wondered about - why his Hebrew name was Tzvi, which didn't seem to me to have any relation to Harold. Tzvi, as I now know, is the Hebrew equivalent to Herschel, meaning deer or gazelle). My father was born in Canada and I think was named Harold for his other grandfather who was Herschel - actually Chaim Hersch just to confuse matters more.
Even so, in Romanian records, his Harry grandfather is Sender with no middle name recorded and in fact, had a son named Chaim who died as an infant. So, maybe Harry/Chaim was just a name he took in Canada.


a question about the ages of young men on entering the US from Germany #general

Susan Lindheim
 

I have several family members who came to the US from Germany in the 1860s-70s.  All of them are aged 17 on their immigration papers and afterwards although based on other information they had to be older.  Was there something about being a minor upon entering the US?  Thank you 
Susan Lindheim