From: Yohanan Loeffler

I'll start with my bottom-line question: If a person re-entered USA from
Europe in 1923 after first entry in 1913 - would he still be in an Alien list;
would he have to declare it in his entry;
Will there be a hint for the first entry in the second Manifest list? Or,
would he be able to enter USA as if he had never been there before?

The simple answer is it is possible it is the same person even though they are
on the Alien list and even though he says he has not been in the USA before on
the 1923 arrival. No one was checking details like that and it was dependent
on the purser on the ship recording the information correctly.

Unless he was carrying proof of US Citizenship with him on the 1923 trip they
would have treated him as an Alien. If he had stayed in the USA in 1913 and
maybe got caught by World War I and could only go back for his family in the
1920s he would most certainly have carried proof of citizenship with him in
1923 assuming he had in fact become a US Citizen. If he left the USA in the
1920s without citizenship he would have been subjected to the same immigrant
quotas as everyone else and risked not being able to get back into the USA.
I do not believe things like "resident alien" status (today a Green Card)
existed in the 1920s and if they did he would have answered yes to that
question.

The obvious question is the person in 1913 and 1923 going to the same "brother
in law" or is it different people who just happen to be listed with the same
relationship status? The brother in law should show at least in the 1920 USA
census and maybe the 1910 which could possibly provide clues.

Also the 1920s passenger list should show his next of kin in the old country
or where he was coming >from in some detail. You said the wives had different
names but I would not put too much stock in that either in a 10 year span.
The first wife could have died and he remarried and hence the much younger
child or maybe the wife just decided to use a different name 10 years later or
maybe one of the two clerks got the name wrong.

If the person came across the border in 1913 to a brother in law have you tried
tracking down that brother in law's household? Was there a 1915 State Census
for where ever the brother in law was living and have you looked to see who was
in the household? Also city directories for around that time?

I am sort of betting that it is not the same person because of the issue of the
1923 quota problems for an alien to leave the USA. It seems very risky that he
would get back into the USA without some type of arrangement. But that is only
a supposition that would need to be tested. Ultimately the only way to be sure
would be to track down vital records for the man who arrives in 1923 to see what
his parentage is listed as. Or maybe the wife if she arrives later with the
children gives some more clues.

Allan Jordan

From: Yohanan Loeffler

I'll start with my bottom-line question: If a person re-entered USA from
Europe in 1923 after first entry in 1913 - would he still be in an Alien list;
would he have to declare it in his entry;
Will there be a hint for the first entry in the second Manifest list? Or,
would he be able to enter USA as if he had never been there before?

The simple answer is it is possible it is the same person even though they are
on the Alien list and even though he says he has not been in the USA before on
the 1923 arrival. No one was checking details like that and it was dependent
on the purser on the ship recording the information correctly.

Unless he was carrying proof of US Citizenship with him on the 1923 trip they
would have treated him as an Alien. If he had stayed in the USA in 1913 and
maybe got caught by World War I and could only go back for his family in the
1920s he would most certainly have carried proof of citizenship with him in
1923 assuming he had in fact become a US Citizen. If he left the USA in the
1920s without citizenship he would have been subjected to the same immigrant
quotas as everyone else and risked not being able to get back into the USA.
I do not believe things like "resident alien" status (today a Green Card)
existed in the 1920s and if they did he would have answered yes to that
question.

The obvious question is the person in 1913 and 1923 going to the same "brother
in law" or is it different people who just happen to be listed with the same
relationship status? The brother in law should show at least in the 1920 USA
census and maybe the 1910 which could possibly provide clues.

Also the 1920s passenger list should show his next of kin in the old country
or where he was coming >from in some detail. You said the wives had different
names but I would not put too much stock in that either in a 10 year span.
The first wife could have died and he remarried and hence the much younger
child or maybe the wife just decided to use a different name 10 years later or
maybe one of the two clerks got the name wrong.

If the person came across the border in 1913 to a brother in law have you tried
tracking down that brother in law's household? Was there a 1915 State Census
for where ever the brother in law was living and have you looked to see who was
in the household? Also city directories for around that time?

I am sort of betting that it is not the same person because of the issue of the
1923 quota problems for an alien to leave the USA. It seems very risky that he
would get back into the USA without some type of arrangement. But that is only
a supposition that would need to be tested. Ultimately the only way to be sure
would be to track down vital records for the man who arrives in 1923 to see what
his parentage is listed as. Or maybe the wife if she arrives later with the
children gives some more clues.

Allan Jordan

My apologies for being several days into February before sending this out.
Data acquired or translated in February is not included in this report.
As always, we have a lot of projects underway with lots of volunteers hard
at work proofreading, scanning, translating.

A word about our translation projects - we have the most need for translators
who can work with Russian and Hebrew handwritten records. Please look at
UkraineSIG website to see which towns are covered by UkraineSIG. UkraineSIG
covers towns that are currently in Ukraine and were previously in the Russian
Empire - our interactive map and town locator can aid you in finding out
whether your town is part of UkraineSIG.

**New Projects - fundraising proposals for data acquisition and translations:
Waiting Approval**
Smiela
Zolotnosha
Litin
Moshny

**New Town Leaders:**
Smiela - Steve Rosenberg
Sinyava Staraya - Boris Lorberg
Baranovka - Mary Jane Roth
Miropol - Mary Jane Roth
Kanev - Jonathan Rudolph
Zhvil - Josh Magid
Tsibulev - Jeremiah Wilton

**Translations underway:**
Smiela Birth, Marriage, Death records microfilm 2289443 item 9 - 1846
Odessa Vital records birth indexes
Nezhin microfilm 2091573 item 1 >from Russian
Chernigov/Repki microfilm
Balta District, Revision List 1875

**New Transcriptions awaiting proofreading**
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 14 marriages 1869
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 17 marriages 1870
Priluki microfilm 2192583 item 13 births 1869
Nezhin microfilm 2091574 -3 births 1881-83
Belo Tserkov births 1850
Ternovka 1903 Census

**New scans**
Glukhov microfilm 1222346-02 family lists >from 1882 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409779-05 family lists >from 1888 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409780-11 family lists >from 1903 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1695858-01 family lists >from 1910 tax poll
Chernigov towns, microfilm 2091577 items 2 and 3 (Chernigov, Gorodnia,
Korop, Krolovets, Nezhin)
Priluki microfilm 2423898 items 6-12

**Data Acquisition**
Revision lists Kraznostav - 1816, 1834, 1858: 118/14/172, 118/14/181,
118/14/207, 118/14/209

Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

My apologies for being several days into February before sending this out.
Data acquired or translated in February is not included in this report.
As always, we have a lot of projects underway with lots of volunteers hard
at work proofreading, scanning, translating.

A word about our translation projects - we have the most need for translators
who can work with Russian and Hebrew handwritten records. Please look at
UkraineSIG website to see which towns are covered by UkraineSIG. UkraineSIG
covers towns that are currently in Ukraine and were previously in the Russian
Empire - our interactive map and town locator can aid you in finding out
whether your town is part of UkraineSIG.

**New Projects - fundraising proposals for data acquisition and translations:
Waiting Approval**
Smiela
Zolotnosha
Litin
Moshny

**New Town Leaders:**
Smiela - Steve Rosenberg
Sinyava Staraya - Boris Lorberg
Baranovka - Mary Jane Roth
Miropol - Mary Jane Roth
Kanev - Jonathan Rudolph
Zhvil - Josh Magid
Tsibulev - Jeremiah Wilton

**Translations underway:**
Smiela Birth, Marriage, Death records microfilm 2289443 item 9 - 1846
Odessa Vital records birth indexes
Nezhin microfilm 2091573 item 1 >from Russian
Chernigov/Repki microfilm
Balta District, Revision List 1875

**New Transcriptions awaiting proofreading**
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 14 marriages 1869
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 17 marriages 1870
Priluki microfilm 2192583 item 13 births 1869
Nezhin microfilm 2091574 -3 births 1881-83
Belo Tserkov births 1850
Ternovka 1903 Census

**New scans**
Glukhov microfilm 1222346-02 family lists >from 1882 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409779-05 family lists >from 1888 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409780-11 family lists >from 1903 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1695858-01 family lists >from 1910 tax poll
Chernigov towns, microfilm 2091577 items 2 and 3 (Chernigov, Gorodnia,
Korop, Krolovets, Nezhin)
Priluki microfilm 2423898 items 6-12

**Data Acquisition**
Revision lists Kraznostav - 1816, 1834, 1858: 118/14/172, 118/14/181,
118/14/207, 118/14/209

Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

I am trying to trace a cousin in Melbourne, Victoria, David SHARPE. Married to
Helen. Brother of Steven SHARPE. David would be about 70 ish now.

Michael H Scott

MODERATOR NOTE: Please share contact information privately.

I am trying to trace a cousin in Melbourne, Victoria, David SHARPE. Married to
Helen. Brother of Steven SHARPE. David would be about 70 ish now.

Michael H Scott

MODERATOR NOTE: Please share contact information privately.

Hi Genners,

I had a rare moment of striking "genealogical gold" while looking though some
files at my parents home and discovering a small plastic bag containing many
folded old documents, including my grandparents' original handwritten ketubah!

I have posted 2 of these vital record documents on ViewMate and would be so
grateful for help with the translation. The Polish one is, I believe, my
grandfather's birth certificate.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37978

The Russian one is posted on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37979

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Melissa McCurdie
Sydney, Australia

Researching RUBIN, AUGUSTOWSKY- Poland (formerly Russia), KREIN, KRELL -
Latvia, MILCENZON, SAGALOWICH, GORFINKEL - Poland (formerly Russia, now Belarus)

Hi Genners,

I had a rare moment of striking "genealogical gold" while looking though some
files at my parents home and discovering a small plastic bag containing many
folded old documents, including my grandparents' original handwritten ketubah!

I have posted 2 of these vital record documents on ViewMate and would be so
grateful for help with the translation. The Polish one is, I believe, my
grandfather's birth certificate.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37978

The Russian one is posted on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37979

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Melissa McCurdie
Sydney, Australia

Researching RUBIN, AUGUSTOWSKY- Poland (formerly Russia), KREIN, KRELL -
Latvia, MILCENZON, SAGALOWICH, GORFINKEL - Poland (formerly Russia, now Belarus)

Looking to make contact with Sidney Amkraut, married Sarah, who died
about April 15, 2007, and had four sons (one set of twins).

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: respond privately, please.

Looking to make contact with Sidney Amkraut, married Sarah, who died
about April 15, 2007, and had four sons (one set of twins).

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: respond privately, please.

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is
the record for the Bohemian birth registration of Wilhemina KIND, born in
Putzlitz (Puclice). Her parents were Philip KIND and Theresia HARTMANN.
Theresia's parents were Salomon HARTMANN and Katharina WACHTEL. I am
interested in learning if the registration also provides additional
information, including other family members or where the families were
originally from.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37971

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Linda Berkowitz

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is
the record for the Bohemian birth registration of Wilhemina KIND, born in
Putzlitz (Puclice). Her parents were Philip KIND and Theresia HARTMANN.
Theresia's parents were Salomon HARTMANN and Katharina WACHTEL. I am
interested in learning if the registration also provides additional
information, including other family members or where the families were
originally from.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37971

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Linda Berkowitz

My apologies for being several days into February before sending this
out. Data acquired or translated in February is not included in this
report. As always, we have a lot of projects underway with lots of
volunteers hard at work proofreading, scanning, translating. A word
about our translation projects - we have the most need for translators
who can work with Russian and Hebrew handwritten records. Please look
at UkraineSIG website to see which towns are covered by UkraineSIG.
UkraineSIG covers towns that are currently in Ukraine and were
previously in the Russian Empire - our interactive map and town locator
can aid you in finding out whether your town is part of UkraineSIG.

**New Projects' fundraising proposals for data acquisition and
translations: Waiting Approval**
Smiela
Zolotnosha
Litin
Moshny

**New Town Leaders:**
Smiela - Steve Rosenberg
Sinyava Staraya - Boris Lorberg
Baranovka – Mary Jane Roth
Miropol – Mary Jane Roth
Kanev - Jonathan Rudolph
Zhvil - Josh Magid
Tsibulev – Jeremiah Wilton

**Translations underway:**
Smiela Birth, Marriage, Death records microfilm 2289443 item 9 - 1846
Odessa Vital records birth indexes
Nezhin microfilm 2091573 item 1 >from Russian
Chernigov/Repki microfilm
Balta District, Revision List 1875

**New Transcriptions awaiting proofreading**
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 14 marriages 1869
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 17 marriages 1870
Priluki microfilm 2192583 item 13 births 1869
Nezhin microfilm 2091574 -3 births 1881-83
Belo Tserkov births 1850
Ternovka 1903 Census

**New scans**
Glukhov microfilm 1222346-02 family lists >from 1882 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409779-05 family lists >from 1888 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409780-11 family lists >from 1903 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1695858-01 family lists >from 1910 tax poll
Chernigov towns, microfilm 2091577 items 2 and 3 (Chernigov, Gorodnia,
Korop, Krolovets, Nezhin)
Priluki microfilm 2423898 items 6-12

**Data Acquisition**
Revision lists Kraznostav – 1816, 1834, 1858: 118/14/172, 118/14/181,
118/14/207, 118/14/209


--
Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

My apologies for being several days into February before sending this
out. Data acquired or translated in February is not included in this
report. As always, we have a lot of projects underway with lots of
volunteers hard at work proofreading, scanning, translating. A word
about our translation projects - we have the most need for translators
who can work with Russian and Hebrew handwritten records. Please look
at UkraineSIG website to see which towns are covered by UkraineSIG.
UkraineSIG covers towns that are currently in Ukraine and were
previously in the Russian Empire - our interactive map and town locator
can aid you in finding out whether your town is part of UkraineSIG.

**New Projects' fundraising proposals for data acquisition and
translations: Waiting Approval**
Smiela
Zolotnosha
Litin
Moshny

**New Town Leaders:**
Smiela - Steve Rosenberg
Sinyava Staraya - Boris Lorberg
Baranovka – Mary Jane Roth
Miropol – Mary Jane Roth
Kanev - Jonathan Rudolph
Zhvil - Josh Magid
Tsibulev – Jeremiah Wilton

**Translations underway:**
Smiela Birth, Marriage, Death records microfilm 2289443 item 9 - 1846
Odessa Vital records birth indexes
Nezhin microfilm 2091573 item 1 >from Russian
Chernigov/Repki microfilm
Balta District, Revision List 1875

**New Transcriptions awaiting proofreading**
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 14 marriages 1869
Priluki microfilm 2192584 item 17 marriages 1870
Priluki microfilm 2192583 item 13 births 1869
Nezhin microfilm 2091574 -3 births 1881-83
Belo Tserkov births 1850
Ternovka 1903 Census

**New scans**
Glukhov microfilm 1222346-02 family lists >from 1882 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409779-05 family lists >from 1888 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1409780-11 family lists >from 1903 tax poll
Glukhov microfilm 1695858-01 family lists >from 1910 tax poll
Chernigov towns, microfilm 2091577 items 2 and 3 (Chernigov, Gorodnia,
Korop, Krolovets, Nezhin)
Priluki microfilm 2423898 items 6-12

**Data Acquisition**
Revision lists Kraznostav – 1816, 1834, 1858: 118/14/172, 118/14/181,
118/14/207, 118/14/209


--
Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

Hi,

The family connection between Simon Wiesenthal the Nazi Hunter who
searched for Adolf Eichmann and Gideon Hausner the Israeli Prosecutor
General of the Eichmann Trial:

Gideon Hausner was born September 26, 1915, in Lwow (then still
Lemberg). Gideon's sister, Gusta Aviva Hausner married Max Muller.
Max Muller was Cyla Muller's brother. Cyla Muller (9.8.1905) was the wife
of Simon Wiesenthal (31.12.1908).

Simon and Cyla Wiesenthal were my maternal grandparents.

Racheli Kreisberg-Greenblatt
Israel
Searching: Wiesenthal, Kreisberg, Greenblatt

Hi,

The family connection between Simon Wiesenthal the Nazi Hunter who
searched for Adolf Eichmann and Gideon Hausner the Israeli Prosecutor
General of the Eichmann Trial:

Gideon Hausner was born September 26, 1915, in Lwow (then still
Lemberg). Gideon's sister, Gusta Aviva Hausner married Max Muller.
Max Muller was Cyla Muller's brother. Cyla Muller (9.8.1905) was the wife
of Simon Wiesenthal (31.12.1908).

Simon and Cyla Wiesenthal were my maternal grandparents.

Racheli Kreisberg-Greenblatt
Israel
Searching: Wiesenthal, Kreisberg, Greenblatt

Looking for descendants of Rabbi Mordechai ZACKHEIM who served in
Ruzanov and Pinsk mid 19th cent.

I know there is "The Scattered Seeds" .

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.

Trying to reach Rav POLLACK or his family. He was/is Rabbi of Boro
Park's Shomrei Emunah and he taught at Yeshiva University.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.

Looking for descendants of Rabbi Mordechai ZACKHEIM who served in
Ruzanov and Pinsk mid 19th cent.

I know there is "The Scattered Seeds" .

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.

Trying to reach Rav POLLACK or his family. He was/is Rabbi of Boro
Park's Shomrei Emunah and he taught at Yeshiva University.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.