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Viewmate Russian Translation #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

I have posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need an extraction of
information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses.

Death record of Bajla Chawa TUCHMAN Lublin 1890.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37895

Birth record of Laja RUSS Lublin 1889.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37896

Death record of Sura BLONES Lublin 1893.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM37897

Death record of Chana RUSS Lublin 1870.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37898

Birth Record of Ber RUSS Lublin 1877.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37899

Please respond privately or via the form provided in the ViewMate
application.
Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman
Tempe, AZ
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JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate Russian Translation #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

I have posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need an extraction of
information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses.

Death record of Bajla Chawa TUCHMAN Lublin 1890.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37895

Birth record of Laja RUSS Lublin 1889.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37896

Death record of Sura BLONES Lublin 1893.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM37897

Death record of Chana RUSS Lublin 1870.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37898

Birth Record of Ber RUSS Lublin 1877.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37899

Please respond privately or via the form provided in the ViewMate
application.
Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman
Tempe, AZ
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historical article about the Jewish neighbourhood in Kurier Poranny Bialystok and finding records from Bialystok and Grodno #poland

katzsommerb@...
 

1.I found this article online in Kurier Poranny Bialystok about an old street
and an old building built in 1897 still standing. This building was just next
to the Cemetary of rabbis, which no longer exist. The whole area was built by
Jews in the 19th century. There are many names quoted Pesza Rozanski,
Benjamin Szuster, Mordchel and Dvora Zawadzcy, Lew, Mejer, Malka Szyfra and
Szymon Zawadzcy, Jozef Apfelbaum, Benjamin Gutman and my family Aron
Rakowszczyk, my great-grandfather who had a pharmacy on the ground floor
and Aron and M.Rakowszczyk-Cytron my mother's cousins, who were dentists in
the building.

I can translate the article if you are interested.
http://www.poranny.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20141122/ALBUMB/
141129917=A7Template=printpicart2.

I was very happy to find this trace of my family because until now
everysearch for Rakowszczyk or Nenkes( my mother's maiden name) on
the JRI Poland data always tells me that there is nothing about them.
I have found traces of them in different documents phone books,
voters lists, medical rosters on the Genealogy indexer and in Grodno
Ghetto book.I know now their date of birth 1876 for my grandfather
Mordchel Nenkes and 1883 for my grandmother Roza Nenkes Rakowszczyk but
I don't know where they were born. They lived in Grodno >from about 1922
to their deportation to Treblinka. I have heard that they studied
dentistry in St. Peterbourg if that was possible at that time as Jews
could move so easily. They graduated in 1902 and 1903. I don't know
where they got married and where they lived before 1922.. On some of my
mother's records she seems to be born in StPetersbourg on others in
Grodno which seems imposible.

Could you tell me how I could try to find certificates to start with
Bialystok and Grodno, maybe Minsk? I asked at the Jewish genealogical
society in Minsk,they told me that in Grodno they have records >from 1914
which is a bit late for me. Is there a person in charge of these records
for Grodno or Bialystok on Jewishgen that I could contact? I have not
ot found anything on the Mormon data base.Thank you for your help.Thank
you for all your wonderful work.

Barbara Katz

researching Rakowszczyk, Nenkes, Klebanski, Lewinski >from Grodno,
Bialystok and Vilnus and Katz >from Sanok


JRI Poland #Poland historical article about the Jewish neighbourhood in Kurier Poranny Bialystok and finding records from Bialystok and Grodno #poland

katzsommerb@...
 

1.I found this article online in Kurier Poranny Bialystok about an old street
and an old building built in 1897 still standing. This building was just next
to the Cemetary of rabbis, which no longer exist. The whole area was built by
Jews in the 19th century. There are many names quoted Pesza Rozanski,
Benjamin Szuster, Mordchel and Dvora Zawadzcy, Lew, Mejer, Malka Szyfra and
Szymon Zawadzcy, Jozef Apfelbaum, Benjamin Gutman and my family Aron
Rakowszczyk, my great-grandfather who had a pharmacy on the ground floor
and Aron and M.Rakowszczyk-Cytron my mother's cousins, who were dentists in
the building.

I can translate the article if you are interested.
http://www.poranny.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20141122/ALBUMB/
141129917=A7Template=printpicart2.

I was very happy to find this trace of my family because until now
everysearch for Rakowszczyk or Nenkes( my mother's maiden name) on
the JRI Poland data always tells me that there is nothing about them.
I have found traces of them in different documents phone books,
voters lists, medical rosters on the Genealogy indexer and in Grodno
Ghetto book.I know now their date of birth 1876 for my grandfather
Mordchel Nenkes and 1883 for my grandmother Roza Nenkes Rakowszczyk but
I don't know where they were born. They lived in Grodno >from about 1922
to their deportation to Treblinka. I have heard that they studied
dentistry in St. Peterbourg if that was possible at that time as Jews
could move so easily. They graduated in 1902 and 1903. I don't know
where they got married and where they lived before 1922.. On some of my
mother's records she seems to be born in StPetersbourg on others in
Grodno which seems imposible.

Could you tell me how I could try to find certificates to start with
Bialystok and Grodno, maybe Minsk? I asked at the Jewish genealogical
society in Minsk,they told me that in Grodno they have records >from 1914
which is a bit late for me. Is there a person in charge of these records
for Grodno or Bialystok on Jewishgen that I could contact? I have not
ot found anything on the Mormon data base.Thank you for your help.Thank
you for all your wonderful work.

Barbara Katz

researching Rakowszczyk, Nenkes, Klebanski, Lewinski >from Grodno,
Bialystok and Vilnus and Katz >from Sanok


ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Alice
 

I have posted two death certificates for my great great grandparents
Moritz POLLAK and Linna FRIEDLAENDER POLLAK who both died in Bytom,
Upper Silesia in 1872. I am told that they are written in German
in Sutterlin style handwriting. I would appreciate as full a
translation as possible. These certificates are on ViewMate at
the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37929
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37908

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or privately.

Thanks you very much, Alice Riley Hadleigh, Suffolk UK

Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http:q//www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
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German SIG #Germany ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Alice
 

I have posted two death certificates for my great great grandparents
Moritz POLLAK and Linna FRIEDLAENDER POLLAK who both died in Bytom,
Upper Silesia in 1872. I am told that they are written in German
in Sutterlin style handwriting. I would appreciate as full a
translation as possible. These certificates are on ViewMate at
the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37929
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM37908

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or privately.

Thanks you very much, Alice Riley Hadleigh, Suffolk UK

Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http:q//www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Re: St. Louis Passenger List ? #germany

Heinz Radde <radde@...>
 

Hello Richard
According to an account of the German magazine "Der Spiegel" 22/1999, two
historians at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, Sarah Ogilvie and
Scott Miller, featured a complete list of the passengers together, which
were on board and their landing was refused by Cuban and US-American
authorities.
See also the photo archives of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum for
facsimiles of the passenger list of the M.S. St. Louis:
http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/result.aspx?search=PASSENGER%20
LISTS

Regards, Heinz Radde, radde@epost.ch, Zurich, Switzerland


German SIG #Germany Re: St. Louis Passenger List ? #germany

Heinz Radde <radde@...>
 

Hello Richard
According to an account of the German magazine "Der Spiegel" 22/1999, two
historians at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, Sarah Ogilvie and
Scott Miller, featured a complete list of the passengers together, which
were on board and their landing was refused by Cuban and US-American
authorities.
See also the photo archives of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum for
facsimiles of the passenger list of the M.S. St. Louis:
http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/result.aspx?search=PASSENGER%20
LISTS

Regards, Heinz Radde, radde@epost.ch, Zurich, Switzerland


Re: St. Louis Passenger List ? #germany

Stephen Falk <sfalkjd@...>
 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 Richard David Oppenheimer r.d.oppenheimer@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know where I can view the Passenger Manifest of the ship SS St.
Louis? It sailed >from Hamburg to Havana in 1939, and was sent back to
Europe. I had an aunt on the voyage who perished in the holocaust. The
family name was FROHLICH / FROEHLICH. =========================>
Richard: There is a list and ID cards (not sure if it is complete) at
this site >from the US Holocaust Memorial Museum:

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/gallery.php?ModuleId=10005267&MediaType=OI

Stephen Falk, Point Roberts, WA, USA sfalkjd@gmail.com

Moderator note: A message sent to the GerSIG Help Desk cited other URLs:
About 15-20 years ago, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum had a successful
project to determine the fate of all of the passengers of the SS St. Louis.
You can see the final passenger list they assembled here:
http://www.ushmm.org/online/st-louis/list.php
and drill down to a specific passenger to see the information they found.
The sub-webs http://www.ushmm.org/exhibition/st-louis/


German SIG #Germany Re: St. Louis Passenger List ? #germany

Stephen Falk <sfalkjd@...>
 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 Richard David Oppenheimer r.d.oppenheimer@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know where I can view the Passenger Manifest of the ship SS St.
Louis? It sailed >from Hamburg to Havana in 1939, and was sent back to
Europe. I had an aunt on the voyage who perished in the holocaust. The
family name was FROHLICH / FROEHLICH. =========================>
Richard: There is a list and ID cards (not sure if it is complete) at
this site >from the US Holocaust Memorial Museum:

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/gallery.php?ModuleId=10005267&MediaType=OI

Stephen Falk, Point Roberts, WA, USA sfalkjd@gmail.com

Moderator note: A message sent to the GerSIG Help Desk cited other URLs:
About 15-20 years ago, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum had a successful
project to determine the fate of all of the passengers of the SS St. Louis.
You can see the final passenger list they assembled here:
http://www.ushmm.org/online/st-louis/list.php
and drill down to a specific passenger to see the information they found.
The sub-webs http://www.ushmm.org/exhibition/st-louis/


Re: The "Conscriptio Judaeorum" - where to find it, and what years are available #hungary

Pamela Weisberger
 

Brooke Schreier Ganz writes:

"Is there an authoritative source anywhere, online or offline, for what
years and what locations there exists the "Conscriptio Judaeorum"
Jewish population census for Hungary? Several of these records have
been transcribed and made searchable through H-SIG's "Other Hungarian
Census Records, 1770-1850" database on JewishGen, which you can read
about here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm

But where did the original copies of the records come from? They are
not listed in FamilySearch's list of microfilmed records. Perhaps
they're in Budapest? And is there an index to which ones exist in
total, and which ones have not yet been transcribed?

For example, for the small town Birsana / Barsana / Birsanif /
Barsanif, in Maramaros county (now in Romania), the newly-translated
Yizkor book section about the town says: "Only one Jew is mentioned in
Birsanif in the census of 1746...The following Jews are listed in the
census of 1763...In the 1830 census, the following heads of families
are mentioned in Birsanif (number of individuals in parentheses)..."
Clearly whomever wrote the Yizkor book chapter had access to a wealth
of these records. How can I see them, too?"

I recall seeing paper copies of microfilms of these records eleven
years ago at the Hungarian Jewish Archives at the top of the Doheny
Synagogue in Budapest. I am not sure where the originals were kept,
but they had copies. You should probably contact Zsuzsanna Toronyi,
head of the archives, to find out more
.
The Hungarian Jewish Archives (HJA) is a public archive, and belongs
to the Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities. Its main aim to
collect and organize documentary evidences, and made them available to
the public. The Archive was founded after the Holocaust, while
collecting the abandoned Jewish community materials, and all
documentation concerning the history of the Jews in Hungary.

Here is the website: http://www.milev.hu/

It is also likely that the Hungarian National Archives hold the
originals. >from the Center for Jewish History's handout online it
states:

Pre-1895 birth, marriage, and death registers, Census Returns of Jews
(Acta Judaeorum) of 1725-1728-1755, the 1848 Census of the Jews (23
counties and 15 cities), and pre-1918 military conscription lists are
available at the National Archives of Hungary, 1014 Budapest, Becsi
kapu ter 2-4 (mailing address 1250 Budapest, P.O. Box 3),
www.mol.gov.hu/angol/bal_menusor/about_us.html; main telephone (+36-
1) 225-2800, Fax (+36-1) 225-2817. E-mail: info@mol.gov.hu.

At www.e-archivum.hu (only in Hungarian) you can find inventory of the
collections of the National Archives of Hungary and some of its
finding aids as well.

The LDS Church may not have microfilmed these census records when they
covered the vital records.

On the Hungarian National Archives site it states that they have:

Cesuses of Jews 1725-1728-1755 (Acta Judaeorum - C 29) (Microfilm
collection: boxes 26557, 40789-40795.)

Transylvanian census returns of Jews 1813-1845 (F 46) (Microfilm
collection: box 1605.)

Census of Jews 1827-1853. Original place of preservation: Hungarian
Jewish Archives, Budapest (Microfilm collection: box 45851.)

The full listing can be found here:
http://mnl.gov.hu/angol/bal_menusor/fomenu/family_research/guide_to_family_history_research/annexes.html

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@gmail.com

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, asparagirl@gmail.com
asparagirl@gmail.com <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Is there an authoritative source anywhere, online or offline, for what
years and what locations there exists the "Conscriptio Judaeorum"
Jewish population census for Hungary? Several of these records have
been transcribed and made searchable through H-SIG's "Other Hungarian
Census Records, 1770-1850" database on JewishGen, which you can read
about here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm

But where did the original copies of the records come from? They are
not listed in FamilySearch's list of microfilmed records. Perhaps
they're in Budapest? And is there an index to which ones exist in
total, and which ones have not yet been transcribed?

For example, for the small town Birsana / Barsana / Birsanif /
Barsanif, in Maramaros county (now in Romania), the newly-translated
Yizkor book section about the town says: "Only one Jew is mentioned in
Birsanif in the census of 1746...The following Jews are listed in the
census of 1763...In the 1830 census, the following heads of families
are mentioned in Birsanif (number of individuals in parentheses)..."
Clearly whomever wrote the Yizkor book chapter had access to a wealth
of these records. How can I see them, too?


- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: The "Conscriptio Judaeorum" - where to find it, and what years are available #hungary

Pamela Weisberger
 

Brooke Schreier Ganz writes:

"Is there an authoritative source anywhere, online or offline, for what
years and what locations there exists the "Conscriptio Judaeorum"
Jewish population census for Hungary? Several of these records have
been transcribed and made searchable through H-SIG's "Other Hungarian
Census Records, 1770-1850" database on JewishGen, which you can read
about here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm

But where did the original copies of the records come from? They are
not listed in FamilySearch's list of microfilmed records. Perhaps
they're in Budapest? And is there an index to which ones exist in
total, and which ones have not yet been transcribed?

For example, for the small town Birsana / Barsana / Birsanif /
Barsanif, in Maramaros county (now in Romania), the newly-translated
Yizkor book section about the town says: "Only one Jew is mentioned in
Birsanif in the census of 1746...The following Jews are listed in the
census of 1763...In the 1830 census, the following heads of families
are mentioned in Birsanif (number of individuals in parentheses)..."
Clearly whomever wrote the Yizkor book chapter had access to a wealth
of these records. How can I see them, too?"

I recall seeing paper copies of microfilms of these records eleven
years ago at the Hungarian Jewish Archives at the top of the Doheny
Synagogue in Budapest. I am not sure where the originals were kept,
but they had copies. You should probably contact Zsuzsanna Toronyi,
head of the archives, to find out more
.
The Hungarian Jewish Archives (HJA) is a public archive, and belongs
to the Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities. Its main aim to
collect and organize documentary evidences, and made them available to
the public. The Archive was founded after the Holocaust, while
collecting the abandoned Jewish community materials, and all
documentation concerning the history of the Jews in Hungary.

Here is the website: http://www.milev.hu/

It is also likely that the Hungarian National Archives hold the
originals. >from the Center for Jewish History's handout online it
states:

Pre-1895 birth, marriage, and death registers, Census Returns of Jews
(Acta Judaeorum) of 1725-1728-1755, the 1848 Census of the Jews (23
counties and 15 cities), and pre-1918 military conscription lists are
available at the National Archives of Hungary, 1014 Budapest, Becsi
kapu ter 2-4 (mailing address 1250 Budapest, P.O. Box 3),
www.mol.gov.hu/angol/bal_menusor/about_us.html; main telephone (+36-
1) 225-2800, Fax (+36-1) 225-2817. E-mail: info@mol.gov.hu.

At www.e-archivum.hu (only in Hungarian) you can find inventory of the
collections of the National Archives of Hungary and some of its
finding aids as well.

The LDS Church may not have microfilmed these census records when they
covered the vital records.

On the Hungarian National Archives site it states that they have:

Cesuses of Jews 1725-1728-1755 (Acta Judaeorum - C 29) (Microfilm
collection: boxes 26557, 40789-40795.)

Transylvanian census returns of Jews 1813-1845 (F 46) (Microfilm
collection: box 1605.)

Census of Jews 1827-1853. Original place of preservation: Hungarian
Jewish Archives, Budapest (Microfilm collection: box 45851.)

The full listing can be found here:
http://mnl.gov.hu/angol/bal_menusor/fomenu/family_research/guide_to_family_history_research/annexes.html

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@gmail.com

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, asparagirl@gmail.com
asparagirl@gmail.com <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Is there an authoritative source anywhere, online or offline, for what
years and what locations there exists the "Conscriptio Judaeorum"
Jewish population census for Hungary? Several of these records have
been transcribed and made searchable through H-SIG's "Other Hungarian
Census Records, 1770-1850" database on JewishGen, which you can read
about here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm

But where did the original copies of the records come from? They are
not listed in FamilySearch's list of microfilmed records. Perhaps
they're in Budapest? And is there an index to which ones exist in
total, and which ones have not yet been transcribed?

For example, for the small town Birsana / Barsana / Birsanif /
Barsanif, in Maramaros county (now in Romania), the newly-translated
Yizkor book section about the town says: "Only one Jew is mentioned in
Birsanif in the census of 1746...The following Jews are listed in the
census of 1763...In the 1830 census, the following heads of families
are mentioned in Birsanif (number of individuals in parentheses)..."
Clearly whomever wrote the Yizkor book chapter had access to a wealth
of these records. How can I see them, too?


- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
For more information on the Hungarian SIG
see our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
and check out the fabulous Hungary Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/
For back issues, search the H-SIG message archives at
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Re: Where is Uzdinsky? #general

Judith Singer
 

Thank you to all who replied and helped me locate identify this as Usda in
Belarus.

Judith Singer

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Judith Singer <jsingerarslibris@gmail.com>
wrote:

In the Birth Records for Vilna 1886-1915, several families are listed
as being >from "Uzdinsky". I cannot find anything resembling that name
in either JewishGEN's Jewish Communities or Gazetteer Databases. Does
anyone know where this is? It does not appear in any earlier records.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Uzdinsky? #general

Judith Singer
 

Thank you to all who replied and helped me locate identify this as Usda in
Belarus.

Judith Singer

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Judith Singer <jsingerarslibris@gmail.com>
wrote:

In the Birth Records for Vilna 1886-1915, several families are listed
as being >from "Uzdinsky". I cannot find anything resembling that name
in either JewishGEN's Jewish Communities or Gazetteer Databases. Does
anyone know where this is? It does not appear in any earlier records.


Ferenc (Francois) KRAUT #general

Linda Shefler
 

Ferenc (Francois) KRAUT was born in Pinkafeld, Hungary in 1907. He was the
son of Izidor KRAUT and Malvin STERN. Ferenc was a famous French geologist,
mineralogist, meteorite researcher and professor in the University of Paris.
The krautite mineral was named for him.

We know that my husband's great grandmother Tereza STERN had a sister Malvin
STERN, who married an Izidor KRAUT, and we're trying to determine if this is
the same family. Is anyone familiar with the geologist Ferenc KRAUT or with
the family of Malvin STERN and Izidor KRAUT? If so, I would love to hear
from you.
Many thanks,
Linda Silverman Shefler
San Francisco East Bay
Linda.shefler@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ferenc (Francois) KRAUT #general

Linda Shefler
 

Ferenc (Francois) KRAUT was born in Pinkafeld, Hungary in 1907. He was the
son of Izidor KRAUT and Malvin STERN. Ferenc was a famous French geologist,
mineralogist, meteorite researcher and professor in the University of Paris.
The krautite mineral was named for him.

We know that my husband's great grandmother Tereza STERN had a sister Malvin
STERN, who married an Izidor KRAUT, and we're trying to determine if this is
the same family. Is anyone familiar with the geologist Ferenc KRAUT or with
the family of Malvin STERN and Izidor KRAUT? If so, I would love to hear
from you.
Many thanks,
Linda Silverman Shefler
San Francisco East Bay
Linda.shefler@gmail.com


Sephardi Migration into Russia #general

David Goldman
 

Greetings all. I am curious about the known history of migration of Spanish
Jewish exiles into Russia. On two ends of the spectrum by way of example we
see originating in Gerona, Catalonia, the name GIRONDI - Rabbi Moshe ben
Nachman Girondi, better known as Nachmanides in the 14th century, Rabbi
Yonah Girondi of Gerona, AND by contrast the chassidic teacher Rabbi Aryeh
Leib Girondi famously known >from the 18th into the 19th century as the
Shpola Zeyda of Podolia.

I guess we would infer that such Jews who ended up in Italy or even the
Balkans moved eastward into Poland and Russia for reasons of commerce
between the 16th and 18th centuries and became assimilated among the
Ashkenazim.

Where might there be literature (in English or Hebrew) discussing this
migration and its extent during that period?

David Goldman
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sephardi Migration into Russia #general

David Goldman
 

Greetings all. I am curious about the known history of migration of Spanish
Jewish exiles into Russia. On two ends of the spectrum by way of example we
see originating in Gerona, Catalonia, the name GIRONDI - Rabbi Moshe ben
Nachman Girondi, better known as Nachmanides in the 14th century, Rabbi
Yonah Girondi of Gerona, AND by contrast the chassidic teacher Rabbi Aryeh
Leib Girondi famously known >from the 18th into the 19th century as the
Shpola Zeyda of Podolia.

I guess we would infer that such Jews who ended up in Italy or even the
Balkans moved eastward into Poland and Russia for reasons of commerce
between the 16th and 18th centuries and became assimilated among the
Ashkenazim.

Where might there be literature (in English or Hebrew) discussing this
migration and its extent during that period?

David Goldman
NYC


Re: Sailing to US Via Hamburg and Liverpool #general

Susan&David
 

The usual route >from Hamburg was a one or two day trip to Hull or Grimsby or
to London on England's East coast. >from there there would be a train to
Liverpool on England's West coast. In Liverpool passengers would take a
different ship. My father took that same route in 1913.

I researched the details:
The ship left Hamburg on Feb 22 with 88 US bound passengers. It landed at
Grimsby on the 23rd or 24th. Seventy-two passengers left >from Liverpool on 6
other ships that I was able to identify.
23 Passengers left on Feb 25 for Boston, arriving Mar 6.
1 Passenger left on Feb 26 for New York, arriving Mar 6.
16 Passengers left on Mar 1 for New York, arriving Mar 12.
14 Passengers left on Mar 6 for Philadelphia, arriving Mar 20.
17 Passengers left on Mar 6 for Boston, arriving Mar 17.
1 Passenger left on Mar 19 for Philadelphia, arriving Apr 1.

As you can see, some immigrants had to wait for their ship to come in to
Liverpool, for others the ship was in port already.

I found J. Persky arriving Boston aboard the Kansas as you said, April
18th, 1889.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 2/3/2015 10:52 AM, Allan S Karan akaran1@hotmail.com wrote:

I found Joseph PERSKY age 24 sailing >from Hamburg on 30 March 1889 papers
noting that he is going to America via Liverpool on the SS Sprite and then
on 18 April 1889 Joseph PERSKY arrives in America on the SS Kansas. Since it
is about a 8 day sailing, I assume he left Liverpool on or about the 10 of
April 1889.

Question: When the sailing papers show sailing >from Hamburg to the US via
Liverpool, would they change ships or stay on the same ship?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sailing to US Via Hamburg and Liverpool #general

Susan&David
 

The usual route >from Hamburg was a one or two day trip to Hull or Grimsby or
to London on England's East coast. >from there there would be a train to
Liverpool on England's West coast. In Liverpool passengers would take a
different ship. My father took that same route in 1913.

I researched the details:
The ship left Hamburg on Feb 22 with 88 US bound passengers. It landed at
Grimsby on the 23rd or 24th. Seventy-two passengers left >from Liverpool on 6
other ships that I was able to identify.
23 Passengers left on Feb 25 for Boston, arriving Mar 6.
1 Passenger left on Feb 26 for New York, arriving Mar 6.
16 Passengers left on Mar 1 for New York, arriving Mar 12.
14 Passengers left on Mar 6 for Philadelphia, arriving Mar 20.
17 Passengers left on Mar 6 for Boston, arriving Mar 17.
1 Passenger left on Mar 19 for Philadelphia, arriving Apr 1.

As you can see, some immigrants had to wait for their ship to come in to
Liverpool, for others the ship was in port already.

I found J. Persky arriving Boston aboard the Kansas as you said, April
18th, 1889.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 2/3/2015 10:52 AM, Allan S Karan akaran1@hotmail.com wrote:

I found Joseph PERSKY age 24 sailing >from Hamburg on 30 March 1889 papers
noting that he is going to America via Liverpool on the SS Sprite and then
on 18 April 1889 Joseph PERSKY arrives in America on the SS Kansas. Since it
is about a 8 day sailing, I assume he left Liverpool on or about the 10 of
April 1889.

Question: When the sailing papers show sailing >from Hamburg to the US via
Liverpool, would they change ships or stay on the same ship?

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