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נושא חן. #belarus

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך
 

Maybe anyone hear about a name family נושא חן from shklow?I don't know exactly  how to write it.


- Professor Julius Sumner Miller, and family: Stark, Newmark, Mazur, Tannenbaum, Moscow, Spellman, Schlesinger, Bregman, Rubens, Friedman, Brown #usa

robgoudey@...
 

Greetings everyone,

 

I am writing a biography of Professor Julius Sumner Miller, and I would like to get in touch with any members of his extended family who have an interest in the family history.

 

Some information about Julius and his direct family members is listed below.

 

I would really like to add to what I found or be corrected about any errors in the details.

 

Please contact me at robgoudey@... or goudeyrob@... .

 

I would be very happy to hear from you.

 

Thank you,

 

Rob Goudey (Melbourne, Australia).

 

 

 

Prof Miller’s parents were Samuel Miller (b. 1862, d. 1937) and Sarah (Newmark) Miller (b. 1864, d. 1938). Both migrated from Europe, probably in the 1880s. There’s a suggestion that Samuel may earlier have used another surname, such as Stark. They had 9 children and Julius was the youngest. They resided in their later years at Billerica MA.

 

The nine siblings were:

 

 

Charles Jacob Miller: b. Dec 12 1886, d. Jul 19 1960, m. Ida Mazur. Children - Dorothy (Miller) Orlov, Sumner S Miller and Daniel Miller. Charles was a prominent Boston attorney. Resided later years at Brookline MA.

 

 

Mary/Miriam (Miller) Tannenbaum: b. Mar 15 1887, d. Nov 20 1918 (Spanish Flu), m. William Tannenbaum. Children - Sumner Tannenbaum and Dorothy Tannenbaum.

 

 

Benjamin Miller: b. Jan 4 1891(?), d. Jul 27 1923 at Monson MA State Hospital (“epilepsy and pulmonary edema”).

 

 

Lewis Miller: b. Jul 18/19 1892, d. (unknown), m. Hannah Moscow. No children known of. Resided for some time at Billerica MA Town Farm.

 

 

David Miller: b. May 25 1894, d. Feb 24 1972, m. Bessie Spellman. Children - Ruth (Miller) Lampke and Stanley Miller. David was a salesman of meat products. Resided later years at Dorchester MA and Randolph MA.

 

 

Dorothy/Dora (Miller) Bregman: b. Jan 25 1897 d. May 7 1974 m1. (unknown) Schlesinger, m2. Donald Bregman. No children known of. Resided later years in Los Angeles.

 

 

Henry Miller: b. Dec 16 1898, d. Aug 24 1955, m. Eva Rubens. Children - Allen/Alan Miller and Marilyn Miller. Resided later years at Waltham MA (owned Henry’s Delicatessen).

 

 

Helena (Miller) Friedman: b. Jan 21 1903, d. Aug 15 1991, m. Abraham Friedman. Children – Muriel (Friedman) Helfenbein and Rhoda (Friedman) Glass. Resided later years at Granada Hills California.

 

 

Julius S Miller: b. May 17 1909, d. April 14 1987, m. Alice Marion Brown. No children. Resided later years in Torrance California.

 

 




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Re: photos CLUJ (Kolozsvar) ghetto; Hungarian labor brigades #romania

Theo Rafael
 

Regarding Hungarian labor brigades first person narrations see this recent thread.

Theo


Re: LEMBERG/WIELKE OCZY geographically close? #galicia

Dr.Josef ASH
 

No-no. they are not the same
Lemberg is the big town in Ukraine, today it is called Lvov (Lviv)
Wielkie Oczy (big eyes) is a settlment in S-E Poland, close to Ukrainian Border.
Ask Googl, it knows and shows the map
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielkie_Oczy
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: LEMBERG/WIELKE OCZY geographically close? #galicia

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Eileen!
The village of Velyki Ochi (literal meaning: "the Big Eyes") is the old city/village/shtettl (around 1000 Jews living there in 1880), now it is at the territory of Poland, at the very Polish-Ukrainian border. The distance between Lviv and the village should be several dozens kilometers).
Regards,
Igor Holyboroda,
Lviv-Lwow-Lemberg, Ukraine.


Re: Which is the town? #ukraine #general

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Uman' is a town, 212 km S to Kiev (Ukrainian capital).
Gub is "gubernia" - ~province. (from govern)
Buki is some small settlment about 40 km N to Uman
Ivanki is also small, I think it is village ~20 km S to Buki.
Let me build the address from the beginning: 
"your relatives" lived in Ivan'ki, but there were no post-office.
so the sender directed the letter to the Post in Buki
and explained it is in the "uezd"-district of Uman' which lays in Kiev gubernia
the letter went from Kiev to Uman to Buki and then to Ivan'ka
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

For an interesting article on name changes,  see  https://bloodandfrogs.com/2011/05/name-changes-at-ellis-island.html
We should really end this discussion, xince it has now been covered extensively.
Thanks

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia PA


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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Shel
 

OK, I’ve just gotta do this: :-)

ITEM 1:
My father’s oldest brother’s (FOB) completely hand-written 1890 Romanian birth-cert, showed the surname as BERCOVICI.

4 children and 15 years later, my father’s own printed-form, hand-filled 1905 birth-cert. from the same town as above also showed the surname as BERCOVICI.

My GF’s and my FOB and 2 other sibs on their ship’s Passenger List (PL) of June 1907 showed the surname as BERKOWICZ.

5 MONTHS LATER (Nov. 1907), on 2008 version of “FindMyPast.com”, my GM & 4 children were shown _leaving the UK_ on a different ship, landing at a different PoE and showed the name BERCOVITCH.

Same month (Nov., 1907) the above ship’s PL showed the surname of my GM & 4 children as BERCOWITCH.

Oct., 1910, my father’s older (NOT oldest) brother shown on N.Am. death cert. (written by a local Official) as BERCOVITCH; Signed by his father as BERCOVICH.

Later, Census A – Family name written as BERKOVITCH.

Census B – Family name written as BERCOVITCH.

Census C – Family name written as BERCOVICH.

Census D – Family name written as BEREOVITCH (and was _that_ tough to find!!).

1930s my father marries with name BERCOVICH, which has held for all family members since then! (with a couple of exceptions!).

All of the above fall into place with Peter COHEN's "Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:41:41 EDT" message, but there _are_ a lot of spelling changes!

ITEM 2:
Cousin’s GF lands Ellis Island early 20th c. named on PL as GOLDSTEIN

Cousin’s GF & family listed on 1920 U.S. Census as GOLDSTEN

At a later date, the cousin’s father’s name was changed from GOLDSTEIN to GONSALVES

At an even later date, the cousin’s father’s name was changed from GONSALVES to GORDON

The last 2 changes were consciously made!

Note: ITEM 2 names have been changed to protect the innocent.

NONE OF THE CHANGES IN THE ABOVE TWO SETS WAS MADE BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS _AT_ THE PoE!

AND WE WON’T EVEN _TRY_ TO TRACK THE NAMES ON THE MATERNAL SIDE OF THE FAMILY (NO OFFICIAL GOV'T-MADE CHANGES THERE, EITHER) OR THE SPELLING OF THE GIVEN NAMES!!! :-)
Stay well, all!

Shel BERCOVICH


Re: Looking for information on Moshe Oshman from Wilna, Lithuania or Belarus, married to Myriam Goldzycher in Warsaw Poland #poland #lithuania #belarus

kosfiszer8@...
 

Thank you so much Sherri Bobish. The https://genealogyindexer.org is a fantastic site. Will try to search using it.


Re: Finding Bernhard Stahl #germany

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Sheryl,

Could this be him?

Bernard STAHL

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Bernard Stahl
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1878
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 20 Jul 1900
Arrival Port: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Lake Ontario
Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Skole, Ukraine Archive? #ukraine

jzeisler@...
 

My ancestral cousin, Baron Herman Groedel, owned a villa (and large sawmill and property) in Skole (Demnia), purchased in 1886 from Count Eugeniuz Kinski. Baron Groedel then enlarged the property significantly. I would like to find any records of ownership, transfer, bill of sale, architectural documents, or any other official document related to the villa. Over the years I have come across several stories about the purchase of the property; including that it was purchased by Hermann's brother, Albert, and a business partner, Adam Schmidt, and later transferred to their business (Groedel Brothers). Can anyone advise as to where I might find the official documents for the villa? 

Thank you!

Jerry Zeisler
Portland, Oregon USA


Re: Finding Bernhard Stahl/Ship Manifest #germany

Joel Weintraub
 

Bernhard Stahl came on the Lutterworth out of Hamburg departed May 5, 1900
 
Joel



   

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Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

karen.silver@juno.com
 

Hi Peter,
 
Thank you for your input, but I think this discussion needs to come to an end.  Part of genealogy research is finding out the truth about your ancestors.  This search inevitably reveals information that was withheld from the descendants of the original immigrants.  My great grandparents and grandparents came between 1900 and 1905 and were very secretive.  I won't go into everything that I found out, but will assure you that both my parents, first generation Americans, were astounded by what they didn't know.
 
As for name changes, let the experience of my family serve as an example against making assumptions.  My maternal grandparents came in 1903-1905 under the name Pochinke and Poczinker and changed their name to Pachilkin and later to Pochilky.  They never told their children the original name and no it was not changed at Ellis Island.  I have found records confirming the original name on Jewishgen.org.  When my eldest uncle married in 1934, his wife objected to the name Pochilky.  She chose the name Perrin and everyone's name was legally changed in 1937.  Over the years I heard that the name came from Lee & Perrin's Worcestershire sauce.  It seemed logical since my uncle's wife's name was Lee.  Other people believed the name came from Perrineville, NJ where a relative lived.  The truth according to my Aunt Lee was neither.  She just liked the name.  I had the opportunity to ask Aunt Lee; most people today don't.  And because of that we must be careful not to over-generalize or make assumptions.


Re: LEMBERG/WIELKE OCZY geographically close? #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Wielkie Oczy (literally: Big Eyes) are located in Poland on the Ukrainian border. Distance from Wielkie Oczy to Lviv in Ukraine is about 60 miles.
Alexander Sharon


Re: Research individuals in France #france

Bernard Flam
 

From Paris, to Judi Missel,

Hi Judi,
Hirschfeld isn't a so common name in France.
So I check for living descendants in France with our official white pages : 
https://www.118712.fr/
I get 12 persons named "Hirschfeld", including one living in Strasbourg and a company, also in Strasbourg.
https://annuaire.118712.fr/?s=hirschfeld
Other results are persons living in a "Hirschfeld street" in a town not far from Strasbourg.

These results include their phone & home address : I never try to call because it's impossible to explain within a few seconds why we contact, and these unknown persons will hang up immediately...

So I did it often, I send as many letters as I got addresses, a nice letter with copies of some family documents to explain my search.
Once, 17 letters to homonyms of a person in Zurich who had filled a page of testimony in Yad Vashem, 20 years ago.
Believe it or not, three days later, a lady call me with these simple words : "for 60 years, we were asking ourselves if your branch had any survivors ?"...

 

Good luck

Bernard Flam

Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund) of France


Re: SSDI claim dates #general

dan.efrat@...
 

I think there is a confusion between Social Security Death Index (SSDI) which provides the date of death and the State/City where Social Security benefits were first claimed, and Social Security Disability (SSD, or sometimes refers to as SSDI) which are Social Security benefits granted based on the individual's disability. The application date for this benefit provides demographic information and health information about the applicant. 

Dan Efrat
Cherry Hill, NJ US
Researching Israelit (from Novogrudok, Belarus and Riga area, Latvia), Rabinowitz (Dyatlovo/Zhetl in Belarus( Pruss, in the Ukraine) and Koifman (in the Ukraine)


Re: Which is the town? #ukraine #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Town is Ivan'ky (Ivan'ka in 1900), Postal Box in Buki (7 miles distance), Uman Uyezd (district), Kiev Guberniya (Province).

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


Re: Records of Home of Old Israel, New York City and 1930 US Census search possible by address? #courland #usa

Moishe Miller
 

Hello,
You can find an article about "Methodology for Locating Residents of a Specific Address in the 1930 US Census," with step-by-step instructions, including images and an example, at:
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY


Re: No More Genealogical Info on Lithuiana Family #lithuania

Myers.debby@...
 

Hi William
Please contact me
Myers.debby@....
My great grandfather was Abraham Levine from Bagasliviskis. Died in NY in 1918. He married Deverah Beila Jaffe in Kupiskis Lithuania. He visited South Africa in late 1890s, returned to Kupiskis, then in 1914 went to NY and died there in 1918. He had relations also ( brothers) in Chelsea, Mass. I have info on these relations.
Sure we have a connection.
Debby Myers


LEMBERG/WIELKE OCZY geographically close? #galicia

Eileen Kessner
 

Found a possible Passenger Manifest for my Galitzianer GM... lists she came from "Lemberg", citizen of "Austria".  Her Petition for Citizenhip however lists place of origin as "Wieke-Oche, Aust.".  I referenced JewishGen Shtetl Seeker as I understand borders changed periodically.  Are these two places the same?  Thanks. 
-Eileen G. Kessner
Plano, TX USA
researching AUGUST from WIELKE OCZY, SALK/KATZEV from VILKOMIR, GOODINSKY/SCHMIDT from PRIENAI

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